Rocky Marciano GOAT- Greatest Of All Time

49-0
Defeated Joe Louis at 36, Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott.
Retired Joe Louis, KO out of the ring, who was on a 3 fight Win streak.
Rocky dished out many concussions, others had to have their welts surgically removed.

Louis said Marciano could beat him in his prime himself, and Ali too.
Marciano once gave a prime fighter brain damage with an upper cut, he also knocked 6 of PRIME rex laynes teeth out with a punch,
He defeated a PRIME undefeated Roland la Starza twice. . His KO percentage was THE HIGHEST OF ALL TIME, 88.75%, HIGHER than FOREMANS, TYSONS, MUHAMAD ALI, FRAZIER, LISTONS, DEMPSEYS. He has only been dropped twice. Rocky didnt become pro until age 25.
A Legit Cruiser at 185-190, he was outweighed in every fight but one. Rocky put them all on Queer Street.

Dominated in an era where boxing was the biggest sport in the world -5 years after he started training; he knocked out the longest reigning champion of all time (Joe Louis)
And accomplished all of this at 5'11" 188lbs with the shortest reach of any heavyweight champion.

His detractors often point out the age of his opponants, but lets take a look..


Average Age of Heavyweight Champ Opponents

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum'


Jack Dempsey - 28 years old

Joe Louis - 27.5 years old

Rocky Marciano - 29.8 years old

Sonny Liston - 28.3 years old

Muhammad Ali - 29.3 years old

Joe Frazier - 27.6 years old

George Foreman - 29.2 years old

Larry Holmes - 28.5 years old

Ken Norton - 28.7 years old

Mike Tyson - 29.9 years old

Evander Holyfield - 31.1 years old

Lennox Lewis - 30.3 years old

Riddick Bowe - 29.7 years old

Wlad Klitschko - 32 years old

Vitali Klitschko - 31.3 years old

Anthony Joshua - 34.6 years old (entire resume) 31.5 years old (just top 6)

Deontay Wilder - 35 years old

I am amazed at Marciano's accomplishments at a weight and height that was exceptional for a heavyweight fighter. While Floyd Patterson weighed the same, he was 6 ft. Obviously Marciano's two strengths were his punch and his ability to take a punch.

Joe Louis was 75 years old when they fought.

I was too when I learned of it.
Incredible. He was a true, bonified Cruiserweight, destroying people. 94% KO ratio.

'They" love to tell us that, dont they? And try to discredit Rocky.
Louis was 36. Hardly over the hill. Louis' average opponent age was 1 year younger than Rocky. And similar to Alis..
Rocky fought Louis (215) at 184#. Louis on a 3 fight Win streak. Retired, knocked OUT of the ring.
All discussion of a younger challenger is horse crap. Younger just means inexperienced, and he hasn't accomplished anything and never will..
Never, ever, take lightly an older, mature, experienced fighter.

Not sure, but a great picture..

Thanks..
Not many know this, but Rockys Edge was his training.
He ran. Every day. 5 Miles of Hills. Lifted rocks, push ups etc.
But most importantly, he punched a 300# bag. No one, even today, punches or owns a 300# bag. It would be hell on your wrists, shoulders and joints. Most today are 50, 80, 100.
He hit 300#, and moved it. And turned himself into a beast.

That pic of Louis being put on Queer Street hangs on my wall at home.

Jersey Joe Walcott




Archie Moore, Hall of Famer. More KOs than anyone in boxing. Beaten to a pulp by Rocky.

Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano. The man was 76 years old.

Louis was on a 3 fight win streak, and outweighed Rocky by 25#. In addition to being 4 inches taller and much larger physically.
Whats your next excuse?

Louis was blind, crippled, had a vitamin deficiency, and had just found out he was half-white.

Joe Louis lied about his age. He lied about his age all the time.

John Landis, despite being an Israeli, and Screen writer of the movie Coming To America, of which, you quote ad nausium, really isnt that funny.

And Louis was on a 3 fight Win streak, one by KO.
Next....

Landis's material was good enough to fool you. That was fun.

Troll Post.
Hope the moderator is informed and takes not.

You didnt fool me. I saw the movie years ago, and hear that stupid argument from the less informed frequently.
Landis did his job well, I guess.
I knew you were trolling on your very first post. Its what 'you' do....

No, just brought up a funny movie scene about Rocky Marciano and Joe Louis. Wasn't meant to offend anyone. You didn't get the reference, and aggressively argued with quotes from a movie character.

If you think thats aggressive, wait until I get about 5 beers or 3 whiskeys in me.
That was me on about 3.
I just dont have time for nonsense.
Im happy not to crap on your threads, if you dont mine. I really dont care what you have to type or write about anyway. Its circular crap & mental masturbation.

So?Marciano punch was the upper cut. You don’t use your reach to throw one you get close and knock him out.

Oak joe louis was 225 yrs old when he fought the Rock.

Rocky Marciano had the height and body type of an average UFC welterweight. To me, that makes his accomplishments as a HW champion in the golden era of boxing that more impressive. In one word: LEGEND..

Frank Sinatra said he was 137.

Towards the end he forgot the words to his big songs.

Joe Louis is the far superior boxer. Prime for prime, Rocky wouldn't stand a chance.

Still one of the greats, though.

Always fun to debate who would win between two elite fighters at or near their prime, especially among the heavyweights. One thing is for sure - only with Rocky did someone win every single fight, every night out, while taking on the best around. From Joe Louis to Lennox Lewis, Ali to Jack Johnson, only the Rock kept that 0 on his record. For that, he can never be discounted in any hypothetical fight. He never excused a bad night, a bad cut (of which he had several), or a bad decision. When he was losing, he always - always - found a way to win, usually in the most dramatic way possible.

Rocky Marciano was a great champion who fought a lot of tomato cans in a weak era. He was a fantastic slugger who could apply the pressure and break his opponents down by coming forward with power punches, but the idea that he is the greatest heavyweight in history? Come on. That opinion is either the result of bias or ignorance. I would rate Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Louis, Holmes and Holyfield above Marciano. All of their resumes are more impressive and they have better boxing skills overall. Marciano to me is more on the level of a Moorer, Norton or Klitschko.

I would say you should put George Forman with that group after all that longevity. He grilled a lot of fighters.

Norton’s style was the guy that did the most damage to Ali when they fought.

Have you ever seen Ali in the movie Requiem for a Heavy weight. Made in 1962 starred
Anthony Quinn, Jackie Gleason, mickey Rooney and a very young Casios Clay / Mohammed Ali.

It is worth seeing just to see Ali when he was young.

Tyson does not belong in the conversation of those ranked above Rocky. Ali, Lewis, Louis, and Foreman are reasonable. Holmes wasn't that heralded but is an all-timer and a bad matchup for Rock. Rocky-Holyfield would have been an all-time classic fight.

Tyson though either walked through his opponent or lost. He never rose to a challenge - whenever he was met with adversity, he lost. And Marciano would not just fold like Michael Spinks.