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2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
Posted By: plawrence
2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/11/06 01:41 PM
It's Baaaaaaaaaaack
Our original Gangster BB Fantasy Sports Game, ESPN's Salary Cap Baseball.
For the newcomers, this is a daily game in which you pick a starting lineup and pitching staff, while staying under the 50.0 salary cap.
Rosters must be set for each day by 3:00 AM. The season starts on Sunday, April 2, so you have until 3:00 AM that day to set your lineup for opening day.
Points are awarded based on how well your hitters and pitching staff do on each particular day - it's all explained in the "How to Play" section of the site.
Loads of fun, and everyone is welcome to play,
But.....unless you are fairly certain that you'll be able to devote at least a few minutes to the game
every single day, you probably have no chance of winning (although you're certainly welcome to play just for the fun of it - in fact, the more the merrier.)
Here's the link....(ESPN calls the game "Baseball Challenge"):
http://games.espn.go.com/bbc/frontpage You need an ESPN account to join, which is free.
Group Name:
Gangster BBPassword:
Corleone[ Okay, so I changed the title.
--JG ]
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/12/06 02:25 PM
I'm all in.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/15/06 04:12 AM
How did I manage to miss this thread?!
Especially considering Plaw's excessive excitement for the game...
I think I already forgot the few strategies I developed last year, but I'm more than ready to revive my addiction.
The first post-it note of the season has been proudly stickied to my monitor. I'm getting chills.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/15/06 04:24 AM
I'm in, though not as excited as the rest of you, as you can tell by my team name.
Sorry, I'm still in basketball mode.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/16/06 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
I'm in, though not as excited as the rest of you...
My excitement level
had reached a fever pitch when it looked as though Don Cardi had joined the game, but he's apparently wussed out on us.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/17/06 01:22 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
How did I manage to miss this thread?!
Because it wasn't called "Baseball "Challenge" like it always was...
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/17/06 04:39 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Because it wasn't called "Baseball "Challenge" like it always was... Oh, yeah...
I'm inviting (forcing) thirty people at school to play in the other BBC group I set up. I don't think any more than ten will actually join and stick with it, but I'm still excited.
I even printed out sheets explaining how to join and how to play, which everyone has complained are too detailed and confusing.
Whatever Plaw lost in spirit for this game, I must have gained.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/17/06 09:37 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Because it wasn't called "Baseball "Challenge" like it always was... I figured calling it "Salary Cap BasebaLL" described it a lot better.
Change it if you want to.
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I'm inviting (forcing) thirty people at school to play in the other BBC group I set up. I don't think any more than ten will actually join and stick with it, but I'm still excited.
I even printed out sheets explaining how to join and how to play, which everyone has complained are too detailed and confusing.
Whatever Plaw lost in spirit for this game, I must have gained. I haven't lost my spirit for this game, Gina, I'm just more excited about the Yahoo game because I think it's more interesting (I wish you would've played, BTW),
Plus, the big drawback that this game has: The fact that you can't ever miss a day, which tends to sometimes make it seem more like a chore than like fun.
BTW, I
loved it when you wtote this:
I even printed out sheets explaining how to join and how to play, which everyone has complained are too detailed and confusing. There's a girl after my own heart. "Too detailed"? Attagirl.
I'd love to read one, if you 'd like to PM it or email it to me.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/17/06 09:53 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I'd love to read one, if you 'd like to PM it or email it to me.
Sheesh. Plaw looking for strategy tips from a chick! :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/17/06 11:23 AM
Nah, I just wanted to see if someone could be as big a windbag as I am in explaining a game.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/18/06 04:13 AM
Geoff, are you going to be reprinting your strategy guide from last year?
I never did end up with a copy of that thing. :p
(I won't respond to the chick comment - I don't want to trash talk until I get back in my groove. Or did I ever have a groove....hmm. )
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/19/06 11:48 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
My excitement level had reached a fever pitch when it looked as though Don Cardi had joined the game, but he's apparently wussed out on us. I didn't wuss out Plaw. I realied that this particular game requires that a lineup be picked everyday throughout the season. And rather than stop playing for lengths of time during the season due to my vacation schedule and other commitments this summer, I thought it more respectful to the others in the league that I not play the game at all rather than play it when it is convenient for me.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/19/06 11:55 AM
Feel free to play.
Unlike Head-to-Head games it doesn't matter if you play or not on a given day or during a given week, since your participation (or lack of it) doesn't affect the other players in the game.
Play for a week or two, enjoy yourself, see how you do against everyone else, then if you can't play for a while, so be it.
Nothing disrespectful to the other players about that, and I'm sure I speak for everyone else when I say that we'd love to have you in the game, even if you only play sparodically.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/19/06 03:12 PM
"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
Don Cardi
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/19/06 05:42 PM
I was just going to jump in here, also hoping you would join, DC, but I see you already have!
You won't regret it. Just ask me and Zia - half the fun is the discussion in this thread. We usually forget about the game after a few weeks.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/19/06 10:46 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I was just going to jump in here, also hoping you would join, DC, but I see you already have!
You won't regret it. Just ask me and Zia - half the fun is the discussion in this thread. We usually forget about the game after a few weeks. How could I regret it now that you and Zia are in this?
Now I'm glad that "they pulled me back in!"
Don Cardi
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/19/06 11:51 PM
Although, great... now the burden is on us to make sure he doesn't regret it! We've gotta make it worth your while, right DC?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 12:47 AM
I'll leave that to you, Zia. Make sure he grows to love fantasies..er, fantasy baseball. :p
DC, I'm just curious, have you played this game ever before? I was a rookie last year, and I only played a partial season, so I don't know much about the "history" of BBC here.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 12:55 AM
Oohhh... BBC history is long and sordid!!
Very sordid! And steamy! And.... well, I'll let Bethie give you a recap of the past few seasons....
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 01:12 AM
I went to the BBC thread for...2003, I think, last night. I happened upon quite an interesting account given by Plaw that I'd rather not go into detail on.
Things are a bit more toned down, nowadays, aren't they?
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 01:23 AM
now the burden is on us to make sure he doesn't regret it! We've gotta make it worth your while, right DC?
Like Gina said :
I'll leave that to you, Zia. Make sure he grows to love fantasies
DC, I'm just curious, have you played this game ever before?
I never played this one before.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties, before the computer craze, I did play a lot of fantasy sports where I worked. Baseball, Football and Hockey. We used to hold a live draft in a bar or restaurant, and then payed a service to keep our stats for us. You had to call in to the service phone number to set your lineups, report any trades that you made and to make free agent picks. Nothing like it is today in regards to convenience and ease using your own computer.
But the truth of the matter is that back then, at least you interacted face to face, or spoke over the phone with the other managers in your league. It was a lot of fun in it's own way.
Then by the mid nineties I stopped playing fantasy sports.
I picked up playing Fantasy Football again back in 2004
(3 leagues), Hockey this season ( 2 leagues), and now baseball (2 leagues) again.
I'm looking forward to this game too.
....and to having my fantasies fulfilled by a certain member here!
Don Cardi
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 01:25 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Oohhh... BBC history is long and sordid!! Very sordid! And steamy! And.... well, I'll let Bethie give you a recap of the past few seasons.... Oh yeah, leave the dirty work to me.
In a nutshell Gina, make sure your Woody can go long and hard; 69's are things that we all strive for, and the men here enjoy playing with their Johnsons alone.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 01:45 AM
Gina, Zia and Bethie. Oh boy, this is going to be a very interesting game!
Don Cardi
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 01:53 AM
Wow, DC, I never even thought of fantasy sports being played in that way. Sounds like a lot of fun!
My only problem with playing it that way is my mom would be much more aware of how much time I spend on it, instead of homework. With the Internet, I can just call it "research."
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 02:06 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I'm sorry, but the only dirty talk anyone will work out of me is discussion of my Willy. And that wasn't even meant to be dirty, until these guys altered it to their desires. There aren't many guarantees in life Gina, but you can rest assured all talk of Willy will be turned dirty.
Thanks for noticing I joined DC. I was only the first one in the league.
:p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 02:19 AM
I think I tried this last year, but from now on, Willy will be referred to as William Taveras.
Bethie, I just want to warn you, because I've had the same problem, I hope you don't allow things to get personal when making your picks. I know you
love Sammy Sosa, but you gotta learn to pick with your head and not your heart. Try choosing someone more reasonable, instead of just going after the "hotties." Maybe Vinny Castilla - complete based on stats, of course.
By the way, what the heck is Sosa doing, anyway?
Retiring, playing, remaining one of the most annoying players...? Well, the last one's a given.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 12:24 PM
As far as I know Sammy Sosa does not even have a team, so no chance of picking him.
As far as Vinny goes, I want to score with him
off the field not on it. But no worries, I was playing this game while you were still hanging out with cheerleaders.
Hey...someone needed to keep the basement apartment in tip top shape. Who wants to hang up in the penthouse with their french maids and grey poupon.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 03:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Beth E:
Thanks for noticing I joined DC. I was only the first one in the league.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 05:06 PM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Hey...someone needed to keep the basement apartment in tip top shape. Who wants to hang up in the penthouse with their french maids and grey poupon. I'll hang out with you, Bethie. I ain't like the "fancy folk."
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/20/06 11:58 PM
I
always hang out in the basement in baseball. So I'll totally be there. Looks like a party!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 12:04 AM
We'll all drink beer and eat corn nuts, since we're the bottom dwellers. To (somewhat) quote
The Sandlot, "and we'll
like it!"
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 12:14 AM
OMG I haven't had corn nuts since like 4th grade!!
Sounds good. I don't really like beer though... Can we drink Sunny D too? I think it goes better with the corn nuts. Maybe Sunny D and vodka.
Btw, look at us... the season hasn't even started yet, and already we've veered completely off the topic of baseball.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 12:29 AM
I just had Sunny D! I gave up coke for Lent (soda, not drugs... :p ), so I've been desperate for any kind of drink replacement - water, koolaid, tea, gatorade...the list goes on.
I always tell my mom that when I'm older, the only way I'm going to spend my free time is by drinking beer and watching baseball. Or at least that's what I'd
like to do, and I might as well be honest.
Zia, me and you were never good at staying on topic last year, and now that Bethie's back in the game, our meandering chick chat will be endless.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 12:33 AM
Wow, you're so ambitious about your future free time... I haven't made plans like that yet.
But hey, I'll send you a bag of pretzels once you get started, it'll go well with the beer. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 12:45 AM
Well, you should know that I'm a very analytical and obsessive person that plans everything out.
A clinician that came today to help the clarinets in band even observed that I'm one of those over-achievers that wants everything perfect, simply by how I was playing (I know, weirdo band people) - it reminded me of the "About You' thread.
Really, I just like to scare my mom into thinking I could become an alcoholic.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 01:08 AM
I'm actually drinking beer now. Who has the corn nuts?
Watch your step ladies. Never can tell what the last residence here left behind.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 10:53 PM
By the way, I declared today as "Recruit Day" - I've now got 23 members in my fantasy group for school! Not sure how many will actually play, but hey, it's a start.
I even set up a web site (using Bravenet) for our group, where I posted an even more detailed guide to BBC, along with other info.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/21/06 11:43 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
No, this doesn't sound familiar at all...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/22/06 12:01 AM
Great, Gina.
I just have to hide the cartoon from all members of my household, lest I allow myself in for a justifiable amount of ridicule.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/22/06 12:23 AM
CS, it just seemed funny to me that anyone could go nuts over something as trivial as a fantasy baseball game. You're not insinuating that you know someone who would do that...are you?
Plaw, that's funny you say that. I found this one in the paper today, and I nearly shared it with my mom - luckily, I realized that I would risk inspiring a speech on how I should be treating my schoolwork with the same regard that I do my silly fantasy game, and I decided against it.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/22/06 12:46 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I realized that I would risk inspiring a speech on how I should be treating my schoolwork with the same regard that I do my silly fantasy game, and I decided against it. Take it from a parent...that was a wise move.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/22/06 12:53 AM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/22/06 01:33 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I gave up coke for Lent (soda, not drugs... :p )
So, you give up soda but not the drugs? Bad girl! :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/22/06 02:12 AM
Plaw, since you're a "fantasy parent,"
you'd never react that way, would you? :p And I already tried to get my mom and dad to join, so there's no hope in them joining the dark side.
CS, now that I've made you feel comfortable, I think it's time to make my pitch. My offer is this: um, please join BBC?
C'mon...if you'll put up with all of that draft nonsense over in Yahoo, you can surely deal with this another year. You know, a
full year...in competition with Plaw. *wink, wink* I mean, don't feel that I'm forcing you into anything - *nudge* - but we'll just miss you so much here!
Geoff, you...word-twister!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/23/06 03:17 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Plaw, since you're a "fantasy parent," you'd never react that way, would you? :p And I already tried to get my mom and dad to join, so there's no hope in them joining the dark side.
A "fantasy parent"
Obviously schoolwork should come first, but you can always point out that playing these "silly" games have a value above and beyond that of being purely recreational.
They foster a sense of responsbility and self-discipline (particularly those games in which daily attention and participation is a must); they require certain planning and research skills and the ability to plan ahead (for things like a draft or looking at pitcher-hitter-ballpark matchups to find those which are most advantageous); there are also mathematical aspects to just about all of them (in staying under a salary cap and deciding where the trade-offs come into play); and psychological aspects as well (like in making trades or trying to figure out which players your opponents might pick in a salary cap game in which you have the lead and are trying to "play defense".
At least that's how I try and sell it to his mother :rolleyes:
.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/23/06 11:31 PM
Great stuff, Plaw.
I think I'll print this out and just keep it in a safe place - next time I let fantasy take priority over school, I'll test it out on my mom. And after being grounded from baseball for a week, I'll let you know how it went. :p
You
do make a good argument, though.
She's already getting annoyed with my recruiting at school - I've got 26 other people in my group, now. I kept worrying that they wouldn't keep up with it - maybe they just joined to try it out and would end up forgetting about it - but now...there's incentive. Cash incentive.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/24/06 09:12 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
but now...there's incentive. Cash incentive. Ahhhh our Gigi's a bookie now!!! I can hardly believe it... we're all growing up so fast.
Or did you mean you're bribing them to play?
I can see that happening, too. "You sure you wanna quit? My friend Benjamin Franklin thought maybe you'd want to stay in, wink wink."
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/24/06 12:10 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I've got 26 other people in my group, now. I kept worrying that they wouldn't keep up with it - maybe they just joined to try it out and would end up forgetting about it - but now...there's incentive. Cash incentive. Gina,
NEVER call it a "cash" incentive. The proper term to use, for obvious reasons, is a "points" incentive.
Always use the word "points" instead of cash.
Don Cardi
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/25/06 01:15 AM
Points? What are you talkin' about? That's what I said.
(Gotcha, DC.
)
Zia, if I were bribing all of them, I'd have to introduce my friend, George Washington, instead.
A friend suggested the idea of us all putting money in, which the winner would get to keep, so I went with it. I've gotten "commitment" from most all of the players, but next week is "collection week" - if I end up having to muscle these characters, it ain't gonna be pretty. I tested out my "intimidation face" (
) on some people today, while flashing my Godfather keychain at them - I think they know I mean business.
I'm not going to be a part of the pool, because I've played the game longer than anyone else, but I'm hoping this idea will keep all of them interested.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/30/06 04:45 PM
Is it just me, or is the number of eligible players at each position much
fewer ( :p ) this year?
Or am I just used to the endless basketball lists?
Also, is it too early to start bitching about the beginning salary cap? :p
And, why am I predicting that Plaw isn't gonna last in this game, even tho it's tougher and more involving than his beloved Yahoo game? Where's his excitement here? :rolleyes:
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 01:55 AM
I get to be SC! WHINE ALERT! :p
(I'll always remember, SC was the first one here to tell me I needed a WA...which was the beginning of a long and prosperous career as a whiner.
)
You don't sound much more excited than Plaw, though.
Where's the enthusiasm, people? It's baseball season. Life begins again. The glory days. Entrance to heaven. The only sport that matters. So on and so forth.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 02:28 AM
Plaw's doing cartwheels in the
other thread... :rolleyes: just wondered why he hated salary cap games now that he's not winning them any more {ouch! oh, snap, yes I did!}
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 02:35 AM
You did
not just go there.
Guess what...my new nickname at school is "Godmother." Ever since I started the "deal" with our BBC group, I've had to hassle people for the money and muscle them a bit, so I've earned the name among the friends of mine who know GF. Godmother sounds a little silly to me, but it works.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 02:55 AM
Whenever you're ready to put your money where your mouth is JG, just lemme know.... :p
(We don't have to bet money, BTW.....I'll settle for you putting "plawrence is my Fantasy Sports Idol" in your sig for six months, or something like that
)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 04:22 AM
I'd recommend even a custom avatar advertising your fantasy skills, Plaw. Perhaps JG could keep it in place of Waldo until, say, the 2007 season?
That is, if you don't "let" him win. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 06:38 AM
Oh, huh, wha'?
Pffft! Bring It On!
And when YOU lose, what do I get?
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 11:43 AM
What do you want if you win?
Altho I would prefer to play for money. And so confident am I that I will beat you, I will even offer you odds.
You name the stakes: How much per point, and I'll give you 2-1 odds on the money.
If you say, for example, 25 cents a point, then that's what I get if I win, but if you win I'll give you 50 cents a point.
A penny a point, ten cents a point, a dollar a point....I don't care.
Talk about making someone an offer they can't refuse.... :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 12:32 PM
Still time to get into the game, all you fence-sitters who shall remain nameless (DB knows who he is :p
).
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 09:56 PM
Completely random but you know what I just realized... During our first season of Baseball Challenge, I named my team "Douche Big
alow" with an "a" instead of an "e"...
Weird.
Anyway, after much debating, shows of intestinal fortitude, and copious amounts of Gina's "coke"... I'm in.
(Reading the old thread did the trick.
)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 10:32 PM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 10:41 PM
Whaddaya thanking
him for?
I'm the guy who did the recruiting here.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 10:47 PM
I thought it was my "coke" that did him in...?
Okay, thanks, Plaw. You are the man. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 03/31/06 10:50 PM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 01:59 AM
That's the spirit!
(Of course, it only began once CS joined - apparently JG, Zia, Bethie, DC, TM, JL, DM, and I aren't worth cartwheels. :p )
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:02 AM
Gina, if it makes you feel any better - I just finished preparing my tax documents and just did a cartwheel. :p
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:04 AM
It makes
me feel better to know that, DB. Cartwheels are fun.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:06 AM
I actually have about a moment to reply here - lucky me!
Since I've been working for myself, I've never done cart wheels come tax time.
:rolleyes:
Anyway, sorry for the intrusion... as you were, peeps!
Seacrest, OUT!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:07 AM
I'm actually not done with my taxes. I just got my files ready to do them.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:08 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
as you were, peeps!
Seacrest, OUT!
He hasn't been around in a while, huh? Maybe once this game starts he'll stop by with those deep thoughts again. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:12 AM
You can almost here the Saturday Night Live music...
"Deep Thoughts by Geoff Malta"
JG voiceover"One night, I was setting my team for fantasy baseball and thought, "What is the purpose of life?" I almost had the answer, but I was distracted when I remembered there was a doubleheader in Milwaukee."
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:16 AM
OK Zia and JG, time for bed...
Good night!
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:16 AM
I can SO hear it!
And I'm so glad that post started a new page... now I'll laugh every time I see it.
Good night!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:18 AM
(BTW Zia... You watching American Idol this year? I thought for sure you'd find Chicken Little dreamy. :p )
DB out...
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:20 AM
I haven't been watching, but I just looked him up... Dreamy indeed!!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
"What is the purpose of life?" I almost had the answer, but I was distracted when I remembered there was a doubleheader in Milwaukee."
A D/H makes you forget
all of your problems!!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I thought Chicken Little was dreamy.
DB out...
Oh, please!!! :rolleyes:
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:26 AM
That's an abuse of moderator power, Mr. #1 Clay-mate! :p
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:26 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
A D/H makes you forget all of your problems!! Yeah, if you know when they are, which I never do.
Awww... I've missed being in the basement... It'll be nice to be back!
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:27 AM
DB, weren't you going to bed?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
That's an abuse of moderator power, Mr. #1 Clay-mate! :p
Now Clay WAS dreamy!! OMG....
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:29 AM
I sleep-type.
OK, for real this time.
DB out.
(I have an appointment with a tax guy in 5 1/2 hours... I might as well stay up.
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:31 AM
Can't tell which'd be worse... dealing with a tax guy, or Plaw, after this evening's posts!
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
(I have an appointment with a tax guy in 5 1/2 hours... I might as well stay up. ) Yeah right, it's the subject of Clay that's keeping you up. You can't resist!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:34 AM
It's the thought of a drugged up Paula keeping me up.
Straight up now tell me... Plaw can insert one of two comments:
Either
- in his best Vito, "Look at how they massacred my thread"
or
- "I miss all the fun.
"
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:38 AM
You got Plaw so dead on!!!
You might as well stay up now! Shit, 3 hours ago I was gonna put the GF game in and do a mission or two.... but it wasn't 4:40AM three hours ago.........
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/01/06 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
It's the thought of a drugged up Paula keeping me up.
Straight up now tell me...
Yikes... you know how at basketball games, during time-outs or halftime or whatever, they'll show little videoclips of the "dancers" talking about their favorite things? One of the Laker Girls sings that in her clip... it's very scary and not okay at all. Like she starts her answer with normal talking, like "and my favorite song is..." and then out of nowhere, she busts out singing "straight up.." and goes on for like 3 or 4 lines. Like a train wreck, kinda.
It's pretty bad. Now I always think of her when I hear that song. I believe her name is Lindsey.... now I'll never forget it.
Speaking of Laker Girls, Paula used to be one too, back in the day. Wow, everything has a way of connecting to each other, doesn't it?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 06:12 AM
I was wondering...how does this game work with Daylight Savings, if the time change is exactly at the deadline? Well, I suppose it makes no difference - when the deadline hits, it becomes an hour later, right? But perhaps in the fall it would make a difference. When the deadline comes, would you be granted another hour?
Not that it really matters...
This is just the kind of stuff I think about. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 07:02 AM
Time changes are at 2AM ET, so I don't think it effects any games...
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 07:26 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Time changes are at 2AM ET, so I don't think it effects any games... anyway, it's worth thinking of it, since baseball (life) starts in less than 24 hours.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 07:30 AM
REAL baseball, for me, starts on Monday... since not only is that when the Yankees start, but..... I will be watching The Sopranos at 9PM ET Sunday, not the Indians/Sox game...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 11:43 AM
I'll be at the Nets game tonight.
But if I woulda realized that tonight was opening night of what promises to be the biggest and bestest fantasy baseball season (don't care about the
real season anymore) in Gangster BB history....
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 04:38 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Time changes are at 2AM ET, so I don't think it effects any games... I had the impression it was at 2:00 AM Central time, which is the deadline for me...guess I got the wrong info somewhere.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 05:26 PM
Good ol' ESPN ( :rolleyes: ) is showing tomorrow's matchups with today's date still - I'm too afraid to change it yet!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 06:33 PM
It seems journalists have just as much fun as we do... I was just reading about Yankees pitching:
...[In 2005] Wang was up and down, and Pavano was down and out...
But at least they offered some advice:
...pass on Wang and Pavano until it's clear how they will fare.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 07:00 PM
That's probably Plaw, in his part-time writing job...
...except either you or DM must've given him tips on what to write about. :p
I can't
believe what one of my friends did in our group. I set "default" Opening Day lineups for everyone (just to get them started) and told them they could change it if they wanted. He changed his, but he apparently wasn't clear on the concept that the players have to actually be playing...only one of his guys is in today's game.
That's what they get for not listening, when I offered tons of advice. This stupid pool will be a fight for the best of the worst.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 07:02 PM
Good ol' ESPN ( :rolleyes: ) is showing the SP's name in the PS Opponent column... :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 07:15 PM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 09:43 PM
I think I'll put you in charge, Geoff. :p
Have you set your lineup for tomorrow, yet? It's still showing today's date, but I don't want to put it off too much longer.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/02/06 09:51 PM
I've set mine for tomorrow. When you hit the edit button on any player it gives you tomorrow's lineup.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/03/06 12:12 AM
I did mine, too, regardless of the date displayed. Spent hours somehow, and for a shitty-ass lineup probably!
It's tough in the first couple weeks to see how people do...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/03/06 12:52 AM
R U whining already?
:p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/03/06 01:27 AM
Ah, the first baseball game of the season to interrupt dinner conversation and annoy my family.
But here comes the rain.
I can't even remember whatever "strategy" I used to have last year in setting my roster. Didn't they used to post the starters when you choose your lineup? Is that coming back?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/03/06 06:51 AM
April 2 Results - Opening Day!
DB 50
JG 48
CC 46
PL 45
GG 44
TM 38 No 2B??
DC 37
JL 36
LZ 05 Cle (-18) didn't help :(
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/03/06 08:28 PM
I've got a question for the Commish, since I'm "Commish" of my group - one of my friends got 37 points yesterday, which showed up under his lineup, but in the standings, it shows him as having zero points. This is probably typical ESPN, as I think this kind of thing has happened with us before, but I'm wondering how I should handle it? He's in the pool, so I obviously don't want to cheat him out of those points. Is there any chance of it fixing, or do I just always add 37 to his total?
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/03/06 09:43 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[qb]
April 2 Results - Opening Day!
what's the matter? that's a new strategy I'm trying this year. today, for instance, I have no CF :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/03/06 10:02 PM
I guess it
is better than last year's strategy -- playing whenever you felt like it. :p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 12:10 AM
Geoff, I've never played this game before. Is it best to set your lineup for the day the MORNING of the games? Or can I set my lineup for the next day, today, even though some of my players are still playing games today?
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 12:54 AM
Well, your lineup locks at 3AM, so you CAN'T wait until tomorrow morning!
What I usually do is complete tomorrow's lineup first thing in the day (so I don't forget), and then before bed I do a quick check for injuries and rainouts...
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 01:36 AM
Thank you Don Malta.
Don Cardi
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 03:10 AM
Enjoying the game so far, DC?
We've still got to turn you into an addict. Well, I guess my job can be to turn BBC newcomers into addicts, but Geoff's and DM's job is to turn you to the "dark side" with their double entendre jokes. I made a huge mistake in developing a crush on a guy named Willy.
Consider this your warning.
P.S. You'll also be treated to a variety of Stratus-factory Trish photos by DM - I think I can speak for all of us here when I say that it's the highlight of the evening.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 06:26 AM
April 3 Results (unofficial)
DB 81 131
JG 75 123
GG 77 121
TM 75 113 Pujols (17), but no CF :confused:
JL 65 101
PL 48 93
CC 44 90
DC 46 83
LZ -- 5 DNP already. :/
.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 10:00 AM
This game sucks....it's all luck....the cap values are too low....you can pick whoever you want....
Oh, wait....wrong thread.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 01:39 PM
Stop it with the DNP's LZ. How am I supposed to make my way back to the basement if you keep doing things like that?
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 03:09 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Geoff's and DM's job is to turn you to the "dark side" with their double entendre jokes.
I've been told that I am already there.
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
You'll also be treated to a variety of Stratus-factory Trish photos by DM - I think I can speak for all of us here when I say that it's the highlight of the evening. Trish photos are NOT what were originally promised to me by you and Zia
A deal is a deal! :p
Don Cardi
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 10:01 PM
Gina, many words have been used to describe my Trish photos but I must say "variety" has not been one of them
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 10:14 PM
DC, you mean you're one of them?!
Oh, and I thought the agreement was that Zia was going to cover for me...I take no part in any "entertainment" here. :p
DM, well, each photo is different. But you're right, the photo
subject (as in, which part of her body) is never a variety.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 10:28 PM
Konerko's on my Shit List, after screwing me over two days in a row in two different games!
...but, Thome's
my homey today, too.
Gina hit 3000 - Congrats!
Man, you'd think it'd be more like 6000 by now, after a years' worth of Willy talk alone!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 10:35 PM
I was just cursing Konerko not more than five minutes ago - at least someone else shares the pain. :p
God, you guys would go nuts if you saw my group. More than half of the people have DNP'ed at least once, so far.
But I am loving the trash talk at school - I made an Excel sheet, and I've been waking up early to record the points on it, so we all compare when we get to class.
Thanks for the congrats! Man, it wouldn't matter what kind of interesting, thought-provoking, inspiring posts I might ever make - I'll always be remembered for my Willy.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 10:37 PM
I'll always be remembered for my Willy. [Oh well...]
Welcome to my life.........
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 10:38 PM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 11:07 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I made an Excel sheet, and I've been waking up early to record the points on it, so we all compare when we get to class.
I think Plaw is having a (bad?) influence on you!! :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 11:21 PM
Whoa, maybe so, but you're just as bad.
I bet you'd do it, too!!! :p
Right?
*sigh* Just call me Plaw Jr.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/04/06 11:25 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I made an Excel sheet, and I've been waking up early to record the points on it, so we all compare when we get to class.
So proud of you!
(wipes away tear)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 12:39 AM
When did SC sneak in here?
Yay!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 01:18 AM
Go Astros pitching.
(Sorry Gina, nothing personal)
I know I just jinxed myself big time here. I don't think I want to look at my ps score tomorrow.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 01:23 AM
Make it stop...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 01:30 AM
I'll try my best Gina. I'll give my sympathies over on the ladies thread. I feel bad for you and your boys. But here, it's all business.
Don't feel too bad though. My home team is The Orioles, so I'll have plenty more of these days then you will.
Hope that cheers you up some.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 01:43 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I think Plaw is having a (bad?) influence on you!! :p She's my protegé
Originally posted by Beth E:
When did SC sneak in here?
Yay! He just wanted to be able to sing that old familiar refrain....
"I started three days late..."
Originally posted by Beth E:
Go Astros pitching. (Sorry Gina, nothing personal)Ain't just GG who's gonna be singing the "I've Got The Andy Pettitte Blues Again, Mama" come tomorrow morning.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 01:45 AM
I'm singing it!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 01:58 AM
I think Bethie, MOAAFS, and Lizzie are the only ones who aren't.
Oh, wait....there's at least one "I Tried To Darn My Red Sox But They're Full Of Holes Again" singer, also.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 01:59 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Yay! He just wanted to be able to sing that old familiar refrain....
"I started three days late..."
[/QB][/QUOTE]
I guess if BDD's not playing someone's got to be here to sign it.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 06:28 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Stop it with the DNP's LZ. How am I supposed to make my way back to the basement if you keep doing things like that?
Sorry, I wasn't aware of your intentions.
I'll try to stop DNP-ing, but I can't promise to actually start scoring points. Sometimes a DNP is better than when I've got all my guys playing, because if no one's playing, I can't get negative points. YES,
negative points... I've gotten those many times.
In fact, I probably owe ESPN something like 30 points for last season. I don't know where to get them though. :p
Gigi, you're making spreadsheets?!
You're funnyyyyyyyyyyy. Btw, don't leave it out of your resumé when the time comes to make one... "Extensive Excel experience, Fantasy Baseball scoring spreadsheets." :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 06:43 AM
Let's not go making fun of people who have Excel Fantasy Baseball spreadsheets.
GG and I might take that very, very personally.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 09:25 AM
Hey, JG.....
Let's do those standings right.
Remember? Previous day's total, yesterday's pitching staff, yesterday's pitching score, yesterday's total score, new total, today's pitching staff, today's probable pitcher & record.....
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probable Pitchers(Last season's pitching records in parentheses)
JG 123 Hou (-11) 26 149 CWS Contreras 15-7 3.61
DB 131 Hou (-11) 1 132 Bos Beckett 15-8 3.38
GG 121 Hou (-11) 9 130 Pit Duke 8-2 1.81
CC 90 Atl (- 1) 39 129 Was Patterson 9-7 3.13
TM 113 Hou (-11) 13 126 CWS
JL 101 Atl (- 1) 20 121 NYM Bannister 0-0 0.00
PL 93 Hou (-11) 26 119 Pit
DC 83 Bos (-18) 1 84 Bos
LZ 5 Cle ( 23) 57 62 Cle Lee 18-5 3.79
SC 0 - ( - ) 0 00 Hou Rodriguez 10-10 5.53
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 07:27 PM
Oh, yeah.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 07:34 PM
Well, since I'll be proving (as my team name indicates) that "Last Season Was A Fluke", I'll try and take care of the scorekeeping every day - at least until I lose interest because I'm so far ahead.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 08:06 PM
I don't mind doing it at night, and will when I can -- especially while I'm winning :p ...and especially during D/H's
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 08:11 PM
With my crazy sleeping hours, I guess we'll just see who gets there first.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 11:27 PM
Just for the record, CS, your spreadsheet was a
lot more "nerdy" than mine. :p
(
CS wonders if this is a compliment or an insult...and quickly decides it's obviously a compliment. Who wouldn't want to be a nerd?! )
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/05/06 11:30 PM
Oh, that spreadsheet doesn't even cover the extent of my nerdiness!
:p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 12:16 AM
Ah, CS, somehow you even manage to make being a nerd the cool thing to do.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 01:13 AM
Who the hell put a fire cracker into Jay Gibbons? He's smoooking tonight. Orioles have scored 15 runs so far in 5 innings.
I have seen enough to know I have seen too much.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
My home team is The Orioles, so I'll have plenty more of these days then you will.
Looks like the anti-jinx worked, Bethie!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 01:24 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] My home team is The Orioles, so I'll have plenty more of these days then you will.
Looks like the anti-jinx worked, Bethie!
[/b][/quote]You're catching on quick baby plaw.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 01:28 AM
Why don't you come up and see my spreadsheets some time?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 10:18 AM
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probable Pitchers(Last season's pitching records in parentheses)
JG 149 CWS (11) 48 197 NYM Martinez 15-8 2.82
GG 130 Pit (11) 55 185 ATL Sosa 13-3 2.55
DB 132 Bos (25) 52 184 NYM
CC 129 Was (16) 45 174 NYM
PL 119 Pit (11) 55 174 SF Lowry 13-13 3.78
TM 126 CWS (11) 33 159 NYM
JL 121 NYM (06) 29 150 NYM
DC 84 Bos (25) 43 127 NYM
LZ 62 Cle (21) 42 104 --- DNP Today
SC 00 Hou (08) 35 35 NYM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 11:06 PM
(Whine, of course:)
Ohhhh....too many bad pitching outings, so soon in the season.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/06/06 11:46 PM
Why the hell did Mike Lieberthal play today? I re-did my roster for today just to take him off, figuring he wouldn't play. That whole "day game after night game" routine.
If they're going to change the rules they should send a memo.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 01:08 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Why the hell did Mike Lieberthal play today?
Because I picked him and his 4 pts for today :p
Posted By: Big Daddy Don
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 02:47 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Why don't you come up and see my spreadsheets some time?
Seems as if someone is suffering from
spreadsheet envy yo Yo YO - Big Daddy in Da House and giving a shout out to all my peeps and peepettes ...
You know PL, Gina told me in a PM that she believes DB has the better spreadsheet. Said something about the way he uses his macros and pivot tables really gets her going. :p She said he
formats like no other.
So at least this fantasy game has some more action than the Fantasy Basketball one - I only see PL posting there. Looks like your playing with yourself in that one ? Not that there's anything wrong with that ....
At least it is not as bad as the fantasy hockey game thread - there is like zero activity in that one.
And I see the DB is back in the game - no surprise, once a few 'chickies' got in the game you knew DB would not be far behind. He didn't get the nickname Chick Sandwich for nothing ... And speaking of DB - how are things in the Windy City ? Hope all is going well with the upcoming wedding and planning around that. Although it is early - PL and I still have not received our invitations yet but we are both planning on attending. As I mentioned in a previous thread - we are both looking forward to seeing you and your beautiful wife to be - begin your joyous journey through the rest of you lives together as both man and wife - but we also are looking forward to the reception where we plan to score some action. I understand PL is eyeing up Lezbo, you know that thing he has for 'young stuff'. Gina is probably too young for him - although I would imagine in her band outfit Pork will not be far behind. :p
But I am doing fine - thanks for asking :rolleyes: Very busy but like to check in when I can and add my ever mature and deep thought provoking words of wisdom.
Hope everyone is behaving .... so until next time
As you were Peeps ....
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 04:57 AM
Yo yo Big Daddy Wuss
Or is it Big Daddy Wuss, yo-yo? I forget.
Yeah, not much posting in the Yahoo Basketball thread.
That game's been over since early December, and with one guy in the game who never posts, one who's not even a
member, one guy who gave up penis talk for Lent, another who is pleading "guilty, busy with 'wedding plans' " and JG and myself, there doesn't figure to be too much useless chit-chat.
Speaking of weddings, you didn't get your invitation yet?
I was told by a certain party who must remain nameless that there was gonna be one "Gangster BB" table at the wedding, and the tables hold only 8 people, so there were some tough decisions that had to be made and, unfortunate as it was, some folks who really deserved to go didn't make the cut.
Rumor has it, though, that a certain member from upstate New York might be coming south to tie the not with a certain member from down here and - despite the age difference - legalize their mutual admiration society.
I know the guest list for that one figures to be pretty short and exclusive - I don't even expect to be on it myself - (can you imagine -
ME, of all people, left off?) so maybe they'll be room for you at that gala event.
(
Disco-o-o.....that's where the happy people go....)
Well, gotta go now. Almost 1:00 AM and you know what happens at 1:00.
Then I gotta do some tweaking.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 06:32 AM
BD better not be knockin' the band camp grrls!!
:p
Hey SC & DC - I drove thru your neighborhoods earlier today, for a meeting in Long Island. Figured you guys would be working or sleeping.... passed thru Staten Island & Coney Island, and beyond, just past JFK.
1.5 hrs each way for a 40 min meeting. :rolleyes:
SC - Where are you in relation to JFK? I haven't driven out that way in over 10 years probably, and didn't realize how easy it was... tho Belt Pkwy / Southern State is a nervous nightmare, it's not as bad as I remembered!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 06:34 AM
1AM Pee Break, huh? Or is it a "tweaking" break? :p (whatever you kids are calling it these days...
)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 06:51 AM
My sleeping schedule has been a bit irregular lately - some nights I'm up anyway, tweaking or peeing notwithstanding.
Originally posted by J Geoff:
tho Belt Pkwy / Southern State is a nervous nightmare, it's not as bad as I remembered! You passed right by - by just minutes - my old and Spike's current nabe, too....The Rockaways.
And fairly close to where Turnbull grew up, also.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 08:49 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
SC - Where are you in relation to JFK? I haven't driven out that way in over 10 years probably, and didn't realize how easy it was... tho Belt Pkwy / Southern State is a nervous nightmare, it's not as bad as I remembered!
You passed the old homestead - I was literally a ½ block off the Belt in Sheepshead Bay. The potholes are killers... is that what you mean by nightmare?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 08:56 AM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probable Pitchers(Last season's pitching records in parentheses)
JG 197 NYM (20) 43 240 Bos Clement 13-6 4.57
GG 185 Atl (-5) 27 212 CWS Garland 18-10 3.50
DB 184 NYM (20) 39 223 Sea Hernandez 4-4 2.67
CC 174 NYM (20) 35 209 Ari Ortiz 5-11 6.89
PL 174 SaF (15) 32 206 Sea
TM 159 NYM (20) 64 223 SaD Young 12-7 4.26
JL 150 NYM (20) 50 200 Sea
DC 127 NYM (20) 51 178 StL Suppan 16-10 3.57
LZ 104 --- (00) 00 104 Cle Byrd 12-11 3.74
SC 35 NYM (20) 50 85 StL
I'm no one to talk, but seems like some mighty strange PS choices today.....Clement? Ortiz? Young?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:25 AM
Hello?? Hernandez??
:p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:28 AM
Originally posted by SC:
The potholes are killers... is that what you mean by nightmare?
That, def, but... I was thinking more the narrow lanes... always wondering when some asshole was gonna drive into me!
But other than that, no problem...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:52 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Hello?? Hernandez?? :p Why are you laughing at Hernandez?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:13 AM
Yeah, why are you....
What he said.
Not that we're the big experts here or anything, but you gotta figure that if JL, DB, and I all take the guy it's automatically nothing to laugh it.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:15 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by SC:
[b] The potholes are killers... is that what you mean by nightmare?
That, def, but... I was thinking more the narrow lanes... always wondering when some asshole was gonna drive into me!
But other than that, no problem...
[/b][/quote]If you noticed an area around Coney Island that seemed a little "newer" than the rest of the thing, that's where they just widened it recently.
It had been even narrower over there.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 02:13 PM
I think Geoff should be more worrying about the Boston game being rained out. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 02:29 PM
10 Things I Think I Think (ala Peter King)
1 - I would like to say a "Hi, Hello, and How are ya?" to my pal BDD . Where you been, man? Your invite got lost in the mail? Are you the Vince Vaughn or the Owen Wilson? If I had to guess, you're the Vince Vaughn since Plaw is generally known as the sensitive one.
2 - Despite the difficulty of having my fiancee halfway across the country, the wedding plans are slowing down and going swimmingly. As I ponder a "GBB Table", there are a lot of things to consider. I'm sure BDD will agree with me on the following considerations.
3 - Plaw - Has a thing for hot young stuff. Gotta have Flopsie and Mopsie for entertainment. Insists that the party must last at least until pee break #1.
4 - Gina - Asking if she can bring a Willy and a laptop to the wedding.
Gina: "Hey Willy, whatever you do, don't pick yourself for my centerfield spot. You know how you don't do well against righties at Wrigley. Besides, the wind is blowing in that day."
5 - Bethie - Is usually up for a party, but Bethie will only go if San Diego is playing Chicago that weekend.
6 - SC - Wants to sing a duet with Zia.
SC: I know it's late. I know you're weary.
Zia: I know your plans... Don't include meeeeeee.
SC and Zia: Still here we are... Both of us lonely... Let's make it last babe. Why.. don't.. you.. stay?...
Plaw is very jealous.
7 - DC - Wants to come only if I have tigers at the reception.
8 - TM - Will say he's coming, but will only show up for parts of the ceremony and reception.
9 - JL - Usually hates weddings, but he's sure he can kick PL's and JG's butts at "ESPN Fantasy Wedding".
JL: "Darnit, I would have gotten an extra 50 points if Gina caught the bouquet, but how about my JG pick for catching the garter. Only I could have picked that! Now if they just play "All the Way" for a first dance, I should have this game locked up."
10 - Zia - She was really looking forward to going, but spent her plane ticket money after she bought 8 pairs of shoes to go with the dresses she
might wear to the wedding. :p
Luckily, Zia can give extra tennis lessons and should be able to fly in! She's very much looking forward to her duet with SC.
Extra Thought:
11 - JG - Must have band camp girls playing at the reception. Flute section a must. Wants opportunity to use his favorite pickup line, "Hey Baby, I'll give you an offer you can't refuse!"... or his new one "I'll soon be animated in the new Scarface game. Want to play with the real thing?" :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 02:34 PM
Ahhhhhhhhhh...baseball's really here when DB's thoughts are back.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
She's very much looking forward to her duet with SC.
That I am, very much so! I'm doing nothing but whisper and drink tea from now till the wedding... gotta save my voice. SC, I suggest you do the same, and I'm certain we'll knock 'em dead.
DB, brilliant as usual. I knew I joined this game for a reason. It sure wasn't to play, that's for sure.
Can't wait for the other installments of Ten (+ an extra few) Things I Think. Btw,
where do you come up with these songs?! "We've Got Tonight," "Endless Love"... :p Timeless classics, yes-- but really. Really?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
"Endless Love"... :p Timeless classics, yes-- but really. Really?
That's Geoff's song.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 05:23 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
7 - DC - Wants to come only if I have tigers at the reception.
Das rite mang! Onlee Tigas. No guineas, no mob guys, I dunt truss dem. Are chu holdin da recession at da Babylon Club mang? An dunt forget de yayo, ok mang?
Don Cardi
Posted By: Big Daddy Don
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 05:59 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
BD better not be knockin' the band camp grrls!!
Pork - I am not
knockin them, although I am continuing to try to
knock them.
Is that what you kids are calling it these days ? :p I like the outfits but the head things have to go.
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I would like to say a "Hi, Hello, and How are ya?" to my pal BDD . Where you been, man? Your invite got lost in the mail? Are you the Vince Vaughn or the Owen Wilson? If I had to guess, you're the Vince Vaughn since Plaw is generally known as the sensitive one.
6 - SC - Wants to sing a duet with Zia.
SC: I know it's late. I know you're weary.
Zia: I know your plans... Don't include meeeeeee.
SC and Zia: Still here we are... Both of us lonely... Let's make it last babe. Why.. don't.. you.. stay?...
Plaw is very jealous.
yo YO - DB is in the Da House. Yes we all know how sensitive PL can be and jealous also. If SC gets to sing with Lezbo, PL will have a fit. We'll have our own male catfight going on.
PL - don't let the Lezbo age thing nor her comments about her dopey boyfriend scare you off. I've seen it a thousand times - he is simply a placeholder for her at this point in her life. Once she gets a view of the aire and sophistication that you bring to the table - she will melt - just like 'budder'. SC though - he could present more a challenge to you, I suggest you take him to a baseball game earlier in the day, after spending time in the ER he will be less of a threat to you.
So DB - you mention the wife to be is half way across the country, what area and is it full time ? In the meantime I'll continue to look for my invitation
As you were Peeps ...
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:28 PM
CS, this is what I would've missed, if you hadn't joined - your posts are always entertaining.
As Bethie said, it just isn't baseball without your lists.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:32 PM
No mention of DMC or Trish in that list........what a waste
Maybe I'll make a top 10 list of DB's lists...........
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I would have gotten an extra 50 points if Gina caught the bouquet
The wedding is on a Saturday
night, right?
The reason I ask is because Beth and I were just chatting, and she wanted to be in the running to catch the bouquet also, but she has a daytime wedding to attend that same weekend on Sunday, and you know.....
She can't catch at a day wedding after a night wedding.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:39 PM
Oh sorry, DMC...
I was, so far, only considering people who were playing in the game!
:p
Thought #12...
DMC - Wants to come, but wants to sit at Gina's and Willy's table, which has Gina's computer, so he has direct access to what he calls his "jollies" - whatever that means. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
Btw, where do you come up with these songs?! "We've Got Tonight," "Endless Love"... :p Timeless classics, yes-- but really. Really?
Bethie's right... Those songs came straight from JG's Ipod.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:41 PM
I figured my history would have gotten me an honorable mention, I guess DB's lists are "what have you done for me lately?"
Thanks for the mention though
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:52 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
She can't catch at a day wedding after a night wedding. That was great!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Big Daddy Don:
So DB - you mention the wife to be is half way across the country, what area and is it full time ?
She's in California teaching and finishing up her graduate studies. She's moving back soon though!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 09:56 PM
Aw, shucks.
Thanks.
I think this is gonna be a fun season. We have just the right mix.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:08 PM
I know this is going completely against the rules that Zia and I set up, but I actually have something to mention that has to do with fantasy baseball...
The daily scores/totals spreadsheet has been a hit at school, as it's started trash talk and heated discussions in every class when the players get to check their numbers. It's amazing how the spirit of the game changes when "points" are involved - I would've never gained this much interest, otherwise.
Despite many players having DNPs, going over the cap, and guessing on their lineup with no research, some of them are proving to really have some "fantasy skills," and they're making good competition - which is a huge embarassment, considering none of them have played before.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:35 PM
Hey Gina - Do you have two entries or are you allowed to use the same entry for both leagues?
Posted By: Big Daddy Don
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
She's in California finishing up her studies. She's moving back soon though!
Hmmm - she is California - in school and finishing up her studies ... sounds familiar
Are you and Lezbo getting hitched ??
Oh man - I should have seen that one coming - well all the best to both of you - but that is surely gonna make PL mad. Don't worry though - I'll make sure he doesn't ruin your big day, besides I am sure there will be plenty of young stuff there that day to wet his appetite .... and from his PMs - his appetitie is quite insatiable. But don't worry - as long as I am there he will not ruin your day. Of course I need my invite first and all but ....
And a bit of advice - keep your distance from Bruno - if you know what I mean.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:41 PM
I have two entries - there might be a way to use one for both, but I couldn't figure it out, so I just made another account.
It's probably for the best - I'd hate for the school friends to somehow find out about "Willy's Winners."
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:47 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
She can't catch at a day wedding after a night wedding.
Sure she can.... all she gotta do is change her pompom protector.
I'll sing a duo with Zia anyday!
Posted By: Big Daddy Don
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 10:51 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I think this is gonna be a fun season. We have just the right mix. Aww - thanks - that made me feel all warm inside ...
Edit: Oh you meant just those that were playing huh ...
Anyway - just caught your earlier post - so you really think I would get cut from the guest list ? No way DB would do that to me - I am still preparing as if I am going, working out to look all sharp in my suit - is it Black Tie - I look dashing in a bow tie ...
And to your song - I know that one, by the Trammps Disco, that`s where the happy people go
And they`re just dancing along
To a perfect song at the disco
that's an old one though - have not heard that on the radio in many years. I may need to download that now.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 11:47 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
...but I actually have something to mention that has to do with fantasy baseball... WHAT!!!??? You're fired, Gi... you are SO fired. Man, you couldn't last a
week!
Where in CA is your fiance, DB?
*trying to throw BDD off the scent*
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/07/06 11:56 PM
Originally posted by SC:
I'll sing a duo with Zia anyday!
Yayyyy!!! Then it's settled. I figured I should copy/paste that statement so I could hold you to it if we ever met.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
Where in CA is your fiance, DB?
*trying to throw BDD off the scent* Is it wrong of me to think of that song, "We're going back to Cali, Cali, Cali/We're going back to Cali, Cali, Cali" everytime I hear the word "California". I don't even know where that song is from.
My fiancee goes to Berkeley.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 02:25 AM
Bet Geoff is wishing for that Boston rain out now. :p
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Is it wrong of me to think of that song, "We're going back to Cali, Cali, Cali/We're going back to Cali, Cali, Cali" everytime I hear the word "California". I don't even know where that song is from. Hey, I remember that song!!
I haven't heard it in like 15 years though. I thought it was LL Cool J but my sister's saying it's Biggie. I think Big's is a different one though. The LL one is the one that goes, "Hmm, I don't think so."
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 11:19 AM
Wow....
I haven't had to say this in a long time (brings a lump to my throat, a tear to my eye, and a pain to my neck):
"Can we please get back to business here?" :p
Thank you.
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probable PitchersDB ^ 223 Sea ( 03) 38 261 Hou Oswalt 1-0 0.00
JG 240 Bos (-02) 16 256 Hou
CC ^ 209 Ari ( 12) 44 253 NYY Big Unit 1-0 1.29
TM ^ 223 SaD (-08) 23 246 Hou
PL 206 Sea ( 03) 29 235 Hou
DC ^ 178 LAD ( 23) 49 227 Mil Davis 0-0 3.00
JL 200 Sea ( 03) 19 219 Hou
GG 212 CWS (-20) -10 202 Hou
LZ 104 Cle ( 11) 53 157 Cle Still DNPing, though
SC 85 StL ( 02) 13 098 NYY
Somehow CC's pick of Ortiz worked out OK; yesterday's other questionable pitching picks all bombed.
Hernandez was OK, except he only pitched 5 innings and gave up a bunch of walks. Then his bullpen gave away an extra 10 points or so at the end.
Meanwhile, the cream is rising, with DB taking over first, JG hanging in at second, and PL and JL closing the gap (Well, JL didn't really "close the gap" any yesterday - actually he dropped 2 points further out of first - but that sounded good, anyway).
CC and DC (our lone rookie this year) and TM (because he hasn't missed any days yet) continue to surprise; GG with negative pitching points 3 of the last 5 days is sinking like a stone; LZ doesn't want to play yet (still concentrating on her Fakers, so she says); and SC is singing the "My Baby Left Me Doing Poorly 'Cuz I Started Three Days Late" blues.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 01:51 PM
SC and I are alone playing with Johnson.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 04:12 PM
Are we going to go blind? Will that make us randy??
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 04:30 PM
It means we could both make some big moves tonight. Johnson has to come out exploding.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/08/06 04:43 PM
If he does that then nobody wil get to first base.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 01:25 AM
Hmm. Do I get some kind of bonus points for my talent in picking the worst PS every night?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 01:39 AM
Why-y-y-y-y????
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 06:39 AM
-20 PS
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 06:57 AM
Yoo-hoo......(brb)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:02 AM
Tonite we find out if this season we have to take TM seriously or not.
(Edit 3:06 a.m.: Guess not
).
You there, JG? You doing a chart? Should I go back to sleep?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:07 AM
Ahh, the first one of the season. A bit early for
my taste, but so be it.
LAD @ PHI Double Header
SP C 1B 2B 3B SS LF CF RF DH
DB (SD0) Lieber. Howard Kent Mueller Rollins Burrell Rowand Drew (Thome)
JG LAD Alomar Howard Utley Mueller Rollins CruzJr Rowand Drew (Thome)
CC LAD Navarro Howard Kent Mueller Rollins Burrell Rowand Drew (Thome)
TM (HOU) Missed D/H
PL (TOR) Alomar Howard Utley Mueller Rollins Burrell Rowand Abreu Saenz(?)
DC (MIL) Missed D/H
JL PHI Lieber. Howard Utley Mueller Rollins Burrell Rowand Abreu (Thomas)
GG LAD Ausmus Howard Utley Mueller Rollins CruzJr Rowand Drew (Ortiz)
LZ (CLE) Missed D/H
SC (TOR) Missed D/H
LAD: Lowe 0-1 12.60 & Penny 1-0 1.80
@
PHI: Madson 0-0 00.00 & Lieber 0-1 21.60
DB - SDO, Lieberthal, Kent, Burrell
JG - LAD, Alomar, Utley, CruzJr
CC - LAD, Navarro, Kent, Burrell
TM - Everyone
PL - TOR, Alomar, Utley, Abreu, Saenz(?)
DC - Everyone
JL - PHI, Lieberthal, Burrell, Abreu, Thomas
GG - LAD, Ausmus, CruzJr, Drew, Ortiz
LZ - Everyone
SC - Anyone
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:09 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Tonite we find out if this season we have to take TM seriously or not.
I could've answered that...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:15 AM
What's wrong with taking Saenz?
He could possibly play both, altho I doubt it...but I figured WTF, I'd give him a shot. I remember him doing something good once or twice last year.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:19 AM
Saenz day-to-day (altho "not serious") VS Thome or Thomas or Ortiz?
Well, I'm sure your shit will end up smelling like roses anyway...
but still! :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:21 AM
He'll play at least one game....they need him 'cuz half the team is injured.
None of the other DHs today particularly stood out to me, so I rolled the dice.
BTW....do you know the answer to the question I posted in "Help"?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:23 AM
At least you should probably reach Top 4...
Hmm, is that a jinx or not?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:28 AM
BTW - Ryan Howard is gonna knock the skin off that ball tomorrow!! I used to watch him
locally at the Phillies' Single-A park, and he stood out -- and last year proved himself. Just like when I noticed Shea Hillenbrand at Trenton a few years back for Boston... mark my words!!
(We all have him, so even my jinx won't matter! :p
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:34 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
BTW....do you know the answer to the question I posted in "Help"?
Answered...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:35 AM
I liked him last year. I remember I was taking him a lot.
He still has to hit lefties better, though. His platoon differential was huge last year. Right now I would only use him against righthanders in this game.
(What am I saying? Divulging strategy tips here?
)
I love the guy, Possible MVP this year. Lock him in now while his value is low and keep him in there all season, even when the Phillies are off.
(There.....I feel much better now
)
G'night.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:42 AM
Funny, tho... the local team is called the Blueclaws... perhaps Bethie would like their crabby logo...
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:45 AM
I've already set up voodoo dolls for both BLowe and Lieber. and I'll pray for a rain to come and wash out the scum and the doubleheader
at least I have Bill Mueller
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:54 AM
What's your excuse, TM?
:p
What time is it in Brazil now?
Unless all these postponements and re-schedulings happen in the dead middle of the night for you....
Oh, and BTW.....Hafner is still available.
Had we made the deal you, wouldn't have had him and his 28 points for the last two days, but it's a nice thought anyway.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:59 AM
I'll trade you LeBron for Hafner.
Hell, I'll trade you LeBron for Kip Wells apparently. :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 08:04 AM
You want Hafner? Lemme look.....
(We're in the wrong thread here.)
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 08:28 AM
it's 5:25 AM here and all that conspiration happened while I was out trying to enjoy a saturday night, only to get home and find out I definitely can't be taken for serious in this game.
now, if you could think of a way of landing me Hafner without dismantling my entire roster, I'm in!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 08:36 AM
I told you what it would take to pry Hafner away from me.
And if you're gonna be serious about fantasy sports, forget Saturday nights out and having fun and girls and your friends and vacations and trips and such.
You have to be 1000% dedicated and focused. You have to plan your life around the game.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 08:42 AM
I was doing that but got distracted for about 4 hours and then BAAMM!! all went down... the dream is over...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 09:51 AM
I feel your pain, Tony, but don't let the dream die yet.
Still a loooooooooooooooooooooong way to go.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 10:47 AM
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's Probable PitchersCC^ 253 NYY (16) 33 286 LAD Penny 1-0 1.80 & Lowe 0-1 12.60
DB 261 Hou (-20) 11 272 SaD Peavy 1-0 1.29
JG 256 Hou (-20) 9 265 LAD
TM 246 Hou (-20) 14 260 Hou Pettitte 0-1 13.50
DC^ 227 Mil (16) 32 259 Mil Capuano 1-0 3.00
PL 235 Hou (-20) 9 244 Tor Halladay 1-0 2.35
GG^ 202 Hou (-20) 15 217 LAD
JL 219 Hou (-20) -4 215 Phi Lieber 0-1 21.60 & Madson 0-0 0.00
LZ 157 Cle (30) 51 208 Cle Westbrook 1-0 2.84 DNPing
SC 098 NYY (16) 31 129 Tor
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 10:48 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Ahh, the first one of the season. A bit early for my taste,
but so be it. Everyone with doubleheader has Howard (1B), Mueller (3B), Rollins (SS), and Rowand (CF).
By JGeoff:
Wants to do especially well...
DB - SDO, Lieberthal, Kent, Burrell
JG - LAD, Alomar, Utley, CruzJr
CC - LAD, Navarro, Kent, Burrell
TM - Everyone
PL - TOR, Alomar, Utley, Abreu, Saenz(?)
DC - Everyone
JL - PHI, Lieberthal, Burrell, Abreu, Thomas
GG - LAD, Ausmus, CruzJr, Drew, Ortiz
LZ - Everyone
SC - Anyone
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 11:32 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Funny, tho... the local team is called the Blueclaws... perhaps Bethie would like their crabby logo...
OOOOOOOooooooh. Please!!!
I'd like it for my avatar.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 11:35 AM
Oh no. GG and I share the same ps. Should I be frightened?
j/k sweetie.
*crosses fingers behind her back.*
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 11:37 AM
Damm Qualls. If it wasn't for his -28 in the draft game I would have a good shot in being in 1st place in all 3 of the fantasy games I'm in. Then maybe I'd start getting a little respect around here.
Yeah, right. Who am I kidding.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 12:58 PM
Plaw, what do you mean "Missed D/H?"
Don Cardi
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 03:09 PM
There's a double header today and you don't have any players on those teams on your roster.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 03:17 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I'll trade you LeBron for Hafner.
Hell, I'll trade you LeBron for Kip Wells apparently. :rolleyes:
I know its the wrong place for this but I always thought that using yahoo would be cool for the main 3 sports (baseball, basketball and football) and having an overall winner of the 3. That way trades like Lebron for Barry Bonds could be put through. Trading players from different sports and seeing who can wind up with the best score for all 3 total.
Just my idea, I know its dumb
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
There's a double header today and you don't have any players on those teams on your roster.
Ok Beth, I see what Plaw meant. Thank you very much. I am new to this Salary Cap game and thankfully people like yourself, unlike the commissioner, take the time to explain these things instead of just posting "No D/H" in their posts.
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 03:54 PM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
....instead of just posting "No D/H" in their posts.
I actually posted that first - but it was after 3AM, sorry for not explaining...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 03:59 PM
Mucho gracias Geoff
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] There's a double header today and you don't have any players on those teams on your roster.
Ok Beth, I see what Plaw meant. Thank you very much. I am new to this Salary Cap game and thankfully people like yourself, [/b][/quote]What can I say. I'm too sweet for my own good.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 04:11 PM
My first time playing this game I missed a d/h and I think it was beth who helped me out. Only I thought she meant I didn't pick a player for the dh position
Wasn't I just so cute back then
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 04:12 PM
I've got to stop this nice stuff. It's going to ruin my rep.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 04:24 PM
why not start a new rep?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 04:28 PM
But then I won't be called Crabby anymore and I'd have to get rid of my cute new avatar.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 06:02 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[b]....instead of just posting "No D/H" in their posts.
I actually posted that first - but it was after 3AM, sorry for not explaining...
[/b][/quote]Yeah.....the defendant, plawrence, pleads "Not Guilty".
JGeoff did it, not me. :p
Besides, all that stuff about doubleheaders and their importance is in the scoring rules.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 06:25 PM
CC's Navarro hit a HR??!!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 06:38 PM
It must be the new avatar. It's bringing me good luck.
Thank you Geoff.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 06:44 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
CC's Navarro hit a HR??!! What? That's not allowed to happen or something? That rates an "eek"?
I'd be
highly insulted by that comment if I were you, CC.
I think JG just kind of suggested that you didn't know what you were doing in picking him.
You gonna stand for that?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:00 PM
You bet your ass that's what I meant! He was hitting .167 this year before today, and hit 3 HRs in the 55 games of his short MLB career. :p So there. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:12 PM
Yeah, well he hit a homer for me today, so there. :p
Posted By: fathersson
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 07:19 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
And if you're gonna be serious about fantasy sports, forget Saturday nights out and having fun and girls and your friends and vacations and trips and such.
You have to be 1000% dedicated and focused. You have to plan your life around the game. Some things never change.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/09/06 11:17 PM
Yup.....and guess who else I was thinking of when I wrote the above.
Posted By: fathersson
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 12:07 AM
I wish I could lie to you and tell you that I think about you and this game while I'm out having a good time.
Sorry, I don't.
Enjoy the game, and don't worry Pee the games has just started, you'll catch up. No (------) person puts as much
time into this game, so you will chip away at them when they take time goofing off and enjoying themselves.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 12:20 AM
Gee, a lot of trash talk from someone who doesn't even bother playing in the game itself. It's ironic that no matter how much some people say that they dislike some of the others here, or get aggravated with certain members, they just can't seem to stay away, and no matter what, they always come back.
This place, especially for some, must be like the Hotel California :
"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave!"
Don Cardi
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 12:32 AM
9 ABs from Cruz Jr., and not a single point...
Love your avatar, Bethie. I don't think you're crabby at all, but I'll keep quiet about that, so you can keep the picture.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 12:39 AM
Sunday (Official) Scores & Monday's Probables
CC 286 LAD (5)+(24) 71 357 StL Mulder 0-0 3.86
JG ^ 265 LAD (5)+(24) 68 333 Det Bonderman 1-0 1.35
TM ^ 260 HOU (17) 43 303 CWS Garcia 0-1 15.75
PL ^ 244 TOR (07) 54 298 StL
DB 272 SDO (-12) 26 298 Pit Duke 0-0 1.50
DC 259 MIL (06) 25 284 Det
JL ^ 215 PHI (26)+(0) 66 281 Pit
GG 217 LAD (5)+(24) 59 276 StL
LZ 208 CLE (24) 41 249 DNP
SC 129 TOR (07) 39 168 Hou Rodriguez 1-0 5.40
Posted By: fathersson
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 02:19 AM
Hey DC,
Who ever say anything about disliking anyone here?
Oh, I have been away a while and forgot how you want to control the place. I remember now...
Next you will be telling us that certain people don't contribute anything worth wild to these threads.
What is it about my posts that YOU can't seem to stay away from?
Never mind DC, I'm not staying long. Just stopped in for a peek. You can have you boards back to yourself now.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 11:22 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
9 ABs from Cruz Jr., and not a single point...
Love your avatar, Bethie. I don't think you're crabby at all, but I'll keep quiet about that, so you can keep the picture. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh...lips sealed. Hahaha.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 01:24 PM
Week #1 Stat Summary Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
CC 5-4 4.00 112 262 111 .424 245 357
JG 4-5 4.90 78 289 131 .453 255 333
TM 4-4 5.47 60 246 110 .447 243 303
DB 4-4 5.50 56 264 118 .447 242 298
PL 3-5 5.07 56 272 126 .463 242 298
DC 6-2 4.44 110 223 85 .381 174 284
JL 4-5 4.89 79 262 98 .374 202 281
GG 3-6 5.56 35 276 116 .420 241 276
LZ 5-1 3.76 90 182 76 .418 159 249
SC 2-3 4.19 53 156 58 .371 115 168
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 02:16 PM
Look out below!!!!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 02:29 PM
You can barely get a pitcher right in either game, DB.
is right.
Very unlike you.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 02:39 PM
I don't think it's him. His picks are right on. The guys just aren't living up to their potential. They all must be out of juice.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 03:00 PM
Thanks Bethie!
I don't know what's going on here... Peavy, the Houston guys, Hernandez???
Things should get better.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 03:05 PM
Hey, DB.....
I wasn't criticizing you....I was feeling your pain
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 03:12 PM
Sure you were. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 03:16 PM
That was like a knife to my heart.....
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 03:31 PM
Touchy, touchy... :p
I knew you were kidding.
BTW, I picked up your bread crumbs Westbrook in the other game.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 04:13 PM
I have a feeling I'm gonna be sorry I let Westbrook go.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 04:26 PM
Don't worry - I picked him up. Now his true colors will come out.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 07:22 PM
Ok, GG. Why is Brad Ausmus not playing?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 07:23 PM
In my best Ray Charles (whine alert):
"It brings a tear... into my eyes..."
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 07:25 PM
The curse of DB's pitching strikes again.
Sorry pal. You've gotta catch a break sooner or later.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Ok, GG. Why is Brad Ausmus not playing? It's a day game.
He doen't catch a day game after a day game after a night game.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Ok, GG. Why is Brad Ausmus not playing? I have no idea what's going on with the catcher rotation - if you get a chance to ask Phil Garner, let me know.
Last year, it was always Chavez with Oswalt, but I'm not sure who this new guy, Munson, will be catching most of the time.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 09:21 PM
Did the values change today?
I thought they were supposed to change every Monday, and I'm seeing 0's, -0's, and 90's...what does that mean?
Just wondering...thanks.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 09:36 PM
How 'bout it, GG? Your Willy sacrified a runner to 3rd... then Stanton intentionally walked Berkman AND Ensberg to load them up w/ 1 out... then a sac fly later from a pinch hitter, and HOU wins in the bottom of the 12th!
Ah, you probably knew all that already...!
Of course, I was hoping Berkman would hit another HR for me, but ahh well...
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 09:45 PM
You're watching!
This was great for me, since I missed the first half due to school - so nice to have extra innings to make up for an afternoon game. We nearly lost it in the 10th when Ward got a homer to go ahead, but Ensberg got one back in the bottom - and I had him for fantasy!
I always feel guilty when I start wishing a different Astro had gotten a particular hit because I know someone else took the one that did.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 09:50 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
This was great for me, since I missed the first half due to school...
School always gets in the way! :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 09:55 PM
No kidding! When are they gonna learn? Can't wait to see how much my grades drop, now that it's baseball season again - wonder if anyone notices that pattern?
I considered bringing a radio, like I used to do freshman year, but it was during two classes I never would've been able to listen to it in.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 10:21 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] Ok, GG. Why is Brad Ausmus not playing? It's a day game.
He doen't catch a day game after a day game after a night game. [/b][/quote]Good to know. Thanks for the tip.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 11:09 PM
Freakin' StL just had to throw two extra runs on top - but I shouldn't complain, because this is incredible pitching compared to what I've been having.
BBC's only counting two ER, but GameDay has four, by the way...anyone know who's correct?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/10/06 11:22 PM
According to the play-by-play, the runs should be earned.
Milwaukee - Top of 9th Score
Mark Mulder pitching for St. Louis
G Jenkins singled to center.
B Looper relieved M Mulder.
C Lee grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, G Jenkins out at second.
B Hall doubled to deep left.
R Weeks singled to center, B Hall scored.
J Isringhausen relieved B Looper.
R Weeks to second on fielder's indifference.
P Fielder singled to right, R Weeks scored.
C Koskie hit for D Miller.
P Fielder to second on fielder's indifference.
C Koskie walked.
G Gross hit for D Kolb.
G Gross grounded out to first.
2 Runs, 4 Hits, 0 Errors
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 03:04 AM
That's what I was afraid of.
Plaw, does this mean y'all will change the score yourselves, for those of us who had StL? And if so, will you have to remember that the entire season?
I'm wondering what I should do for my group, because I know several other people also had the Cards.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 10:26 AM
Plaw...(please be online)...I see that the ER were accounted for, but now, many of us (in my group, as well as just me in ours) are out of order in the standings - if I went by our totals, we'd be in a completely different order.
Does this has something to do with StL? What should I do, because I'm trying to record the scores before school...?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 10:48 AM
I believe that ESPN has corrected the scores to reflect the fact that the runs are earned.
So despite the incorrect "order" in which they have everyone, why not just go by the correct point totals and put everyone in their correct position?
Or am I misunderstanding you?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 11:20 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
does this mean y'all will change the score yourselves, for those of us who had StL? And if so, will you have to remember that the entire season?
Just for future reference, GG.....
ESPN usually displays no scores at all from about 3:00 AM until about 5:30, when they come out with the "official scores".
There have been many, many occasions when the score(s) you may have seen at 1:30 or 2:00 AM were different than the official scores later.
There has never been, at least to the best of my knowledge since we've all been playing, a case in which there was an incorrect scoring decision that was not corrected during that two hour interval in the morning, but I guess there's a first time for everything.
There
have been one or two cases in the past when ESPN screwed up (most notably in 2004 when they weren't prepared for leap year and decided not to count the basketball scores for February 29th), and it has always been my position that just because ESPN screws up and makes an incorrect scoring decision, that we are under no obligation to follow that decision ourselves.
In this case, had ESPN
not corrected St. Louis's pitching score to reflect the fact that the runs were seemingly earned, I first would have made 1000% sure that the runs
were, in fact, earned, by checking other sources.
If it turned out that the runs
were earned, and ESPN was
not correcting the mistake, then "Yes"; I would have argued that we should manually correct the scores ourselves to reflect six fewer points for the St. Louis-takers, and simply remembered to deduct them at the end of the game.
I'm sure if those six points made a difference in the final scores, the people who didn't have St. Louis yesterday would have been sure to remember to deduct them, so remembering wouldn't have been a problem.
Bottom line:
For my money, the integrity of the game and the scores is of paramount importance.
If ESPN fails to correct a mistake that we are aware of, we are under no obligation to go along with that mistake if we are aware of it and can correct it.
Had that happened in this case, though, you personally would've been operating with the handicap of being the organizer of your league and then trying to alter the "official" scoring only nine days after the game started.
That would have been mitigated, I guess, by the fact that presumably you had St. Louis in your league at school as well, so in this particular case making the correct decision would have cost
you points, and everyone would be able to see that you were not simply acting out of your own self interest (assuming that you
did deduct the points from yourself).
Imagine if it had been the other way around and you were in the position of having to try and deduct points from someone else in your league and having to explain all this crap.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 12:16 PM
Monday Scores & Tuesday's Probable Pitchers
CC 357 StL (13) 38 395 Ari Hernandez 1-0 1.80
JG 333 Det (12) 57 390 Bos Beckett 1-0 1.29
TM 303 CWS (20) 55 358 Cle Lee 0-0 5.06
PL 298 StL (12) 53 351 Oak Haren 0-0 6.00
DB 298 Pit (-9) 46 344 Bos
DC 284 Det (12) 51 335 Bos
JL 281 Pit (-9) 14 295 Min Radke 1-0 6.00
GG 276 StL (12) 47 323 Bos
LZ 249 DNP (00) 20 269 Cle
SC 168 Hou (27) 54 222 Oak
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 01:32 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
There have been many, many occasions when the score(s) .......
......For my money, the integrity of the game and the scores is of paramount importance.......
..... you personally would've been operating with the handicap of being the organizer of your league ....
.......That would have been mitigated, I guess, by the fact that presumably you had St. Louis.....
Does he ramble like this every year in every league that he is in? :p :p
Ahh, I guess that we all love him and that is why we tolerate these posts.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 02:29 PM
Sheesh, you're a tough one to please....
First you complain about not getting an explanation about what "Missed doubleheader" meant, when any reasonable person would figure that you knew what missing a doubleheader was all about since they make a special point of mentioning the importance of doubleheaders in the scoring rules.
Then, when someone specifically
asks for an explanation regarding a specific situation, you complain aout my taking the time to give them one.
I guess some people are just never satisfied.
Besides...
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Ahh, I guess that we all love him and that is why we tolerate these posts.
I don't see where you have too much choice :p .
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 02:49 PM
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 07:20 PM
Adam Dunn is a hon.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 07:32 PM
I second that emotion.
Plus, I have him in Yahoo also.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 07:59 PM
Apparently, they're throwing batting practice out there in Wrigley.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 09:11 PM
I'm sorry I couldn't make it here sooner to defend Plaw (without any prompting... :p ) regarding his detailed explanation.
I always appreciate his lengthy posts - they give me a much better understanding of the game, and I think it's nice he takes the time to write them. He might be a fantasy addict/windbag, but he's good at it.
Plaw, thanks for all of the info. I figured it wouldn't be good to trust any scores until the morning, and I've been checking them about 5:30 everyday. I did just what you suggested - I just put everyone in order, myself - but I'm still hoping that the standings will be correct by tomorrow. It's not so much that it's important to me, personally, but I'm sure it'll create confusion for the others. I was so grateful that the StL runs were added on - I know exactly what you mean about having to explain all of this to everyone, and how terrible it would've been if it was an advantage for me. I'm already having to defend myself in every other aspect of the game, as people refuse to give up on the idea that I'm "cheating."
As if I'm even in a position to give tips ( :rolleyes: ), I wrote an entire "Tips" page, along with my "How to Play" page for the web site so that
nobody would be at a disadvantage, and I don't think a single person has read any of it. But considering one of the players has maintained a spot near the top ten, simply by choosing the players with the funniest names...I guess there isn't much sense to our group.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 09:31 PM
Give your friend this team... Tell him it's the "GangsterBB special".
C - John Buck
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Homer Bush
3B - Vinny Castilla
SS - Pokey Reese
LF - Larry Bigbie
CF - Willy Taveras
RF - Rocco Baldelli (sounds like a Godfather character)
DH - Jim Thome (our homey)
PS - Yankees (Wang, Johnson, Small, etc...)
:p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 09:52 PM
Not sure she'd understand, but I'm sure she'd take it...
I doubt any of you will use her "strategy," so let me just post one of her lineups:
C Geronimo Gil
1B Mark Teixeira
2B Placido Polanco
3B Ty Wigginton
SS Juan Uribe
LF Ryan Langerhans
CF Chris Duffy
RF Jeff Francoeur
DH Dallas McPherson
You get the idea... :p
It drives the rest of us crazy, because we're spending time researching, checking stats, etc., and she sometimes ends up with more points than us!
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 10:38 PM
...and there it goes another spot in the standings....
it seems that today was "Adam Dunn's Day" and nobody told me, right?
also, I threw away 12 pts in the draft game even spending the WHOLE last couple of days in front of the pc
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Give your friend this team... Tell him it's the "GangsterBB special".
C - John Buck
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Homer Bush
3B - Vinny Castilla
SS - Pokey Reese
LF - Larry Bigbie
CF - Willy Taveras
RF - Rocco Baldelli (sounds like a Godfather character)
DH - Jim Thome (our homey)
PS - Yankees (Wang, Johnson, Small, etc...)
:p
LOL
You forgot Rich Harden, Nookie Logan, and the infamous breakfast cereal guy, Coco Crisp.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/11/06 11:54 PM
C- Danny Ardion
1B- Lance Berkman
2B- Omar Infante
3B- Troy Glaus
SS- Neifi Perez
CF- Jim Edmonds
RF- Trot Nixon
LF- Raul Ibanez
DH- Mike Sweeney
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 12:02 AM
What's that, DM?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 12:09 AM
I am utterly ashamed of myself for catching that one.
You guys have ruined me.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 08:47 AM
Tuesday Scores & Wednesday's Probable Pitchers
CC 395 Ari (04) 54 449 LAA Escobar 1-0 1.50
JG 390 Bos (17) 42 432 LAA
TM 358 Cle (16) 43 401 NYM Martinez 1-0 6.00
PL 351 Oak (-1) 44 395 NYM
DB 344 Bos (17) 37 381 NYM
DC 335 Bos (17) 35 370 NYM
GG 323 Bos (17) 36 359 StL Marquis 1-0 3.38
JL 295 Min (10) 52 347 NYM
LZ 269 Cle (16) 36 305 Cle Byrd 1-0 7.50
SC 222 Oak (-1) 18 240 StL
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 08:51 AM
All the "cream" hasn't risen
here yet....
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 09:04 AM
No, there are still a few "movements" that I think we can reasonably expect to see.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 09:27 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
No, there are still a few "movements" that I think we can reasonably expect to see.
Probably right. Realizing I missed Pedro Martinez today caused a bm.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 11:05 AM
Brian Roberts couldn't put a little more oomf into his swing and give me that grand slam? Would it have killed him?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/12/06 10:55 PM
I should have gone with my first instinct last time that told me to take Maddux.
Even
I don't listen to me.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 08:23 AM
ThursdayHOU @ SF D/H (...maybe, at the rate they're going)
Everyone caught the D/H except the last two.
Everyone has HOU PS, and Berkman.
Everyone has Biggio except Plaw, w/ Durham.
Everyone has Vizquel except Plaw, w/ Everett.
Everyone has Wilson except CC & TM w/ Bonds. (?)
Otherwise:
C 3B LF CF RF DH
CC Ausmus Feliz Bonds Willy Alou Finley
JG Greene Ensberg Wilson (Sully) Alou (Hafner)
TM Ausmus Ensberg Bonds Winn Lane Finley
PL (Ross) Feliz Wilson Winn Lane (Ortiz)
DB Ausmus Ensberg Wilson Winn Alou (Homey)
DC (VMart) (Wright) Wilson (Repko) Alou (Marrero)
JL (Castro) Ensberg Wilson Willy Lane (Gomes)
GG Ausmus Ensberg Wilson Winn Alou (Homey)
LZ Yeah, baseball season already..... :/
SC Not playing either....
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 08:54 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Everyone caught the D/H except the last two.
Stupid... stupid... stupid.
I marked the DH on my calendar yesterday and I STILL forgot to make the picks.
Looks like me and Zia will be fightin' to see who gets on bottom.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 10:10 AM
Wednesday Scores & Thursday's Probable Pitchers
CC 449 LAA (-2) 36 485 Hou Oswalt 1-0 3.14 & Backe 1-0 1.50
JG 432 LAA (-2) 35 467 Hou
TM 401 NYM (26) 62 463 Hou
PL 395 NYM (26) 51 446 Hou
DB 381 NYM (26) 55 436 Hou
DC 370 NYM (26) 56 426 Hou
GG 359 StL (21) 55 414 Hou
JL 347 NYM (26) 64 411 Hou
LZ 305 Cle (-18) 15 320 Cle Johnson 1-0 0.00
SC 240 StL (21) 59 299 NYY Johnson 1-1 2.40
I'm telling you guys.....this year's game is gonna be a great one.
With only 74 points separating the top eight places and everyone seemingly knowing what they are doing and capable of putting together a hot few days hot streak, I don't see anyone pulling away.
I worry only about TM and his long history of missing days; and SC, for fear that his late start will be too much of a handicap for him to overcome, what with eight dedicated players in front of him.
As far as LZ is concerned, I don't have a clue.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 11:28 AM
Boy, could be alot of zeroes today if these games get rained out too.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 12:49 PM
Scattered showers, 30% chance of rain.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 02:11 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I'm telling you guys.....this year's game is gonna be a great one.
I know what you mean... I haven't been this excited about this game since the beginning of our second year.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 03:47 PM
CC 449 LAA (-2) 36 485
JG 432 LAA (-2) 35 467
Sorry, Bethie... seems The Curse of Pork is back!
:rolleyes:
LZ 320 Cle Johnson 1-0 0.00
SC 299 NYY Johnson 1-1 2.40
Originally posted by SC:
Looks like me and Zia will be fightin' to see who gets on bottom.
Depends whose Johnson outlasts the other I guess...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 03:52 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]
CC 449 LAA (-2) 36 485
JG 432 LAA (-2) 35 467
Sorry, Bethie... seems The Curse of Pork is back!
:rolleyes:
[/quote]If I had to go down I'm just glad you were there to enjoy the experience with me.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] I'm telling you guys.....this year's game is gonna be a great one.
I know what you mean... I haven't been this excited about this game since the beginning of our second year. [/b][/quote]Your comment warmed the cockles of my heart, DB.
Just like old times.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 04:20 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Depends whose Johnson outlasts the other I guess...
I'm betting its mine. He's more randy.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] [quote]
CC 449 LAA (-2) 36 485
JG 432 LAA (-2) 35 467
Sorry, Bethie... seems The Curse of Pork is back!
:rolleyes:
[/quote]If I had to go down I'm just glad you were there to enjoy the experience with me. [/b][/quote]You guys were lucky it wasn't worse.
Texas scored four more runs that were unearned.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 05:33 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Everyone has Wilson except CC & TM w/ Bonds. (?)
I actually had decided to go with Wilson but was stupid enough to only care to go changing after the roster locked :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 07:05 PM
My Homey!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 07:10 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] Depends whose Johnson outlasts the other I guess...
I'm betting its mine. He's more randy. [/b][/quote]Your Johnson only lasted 5 innings?
Now you gotta rely on the Proctologist to hold it to 1 run...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 08:42 PM
No Ensberg ("Phil Garner will likely give him at least one of those games off") or Biggio (WTF?) in the first game? :rolleyes:
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 08:50 PM
that's what you get when you pick the same players than me :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 08:52 PM
I'm surprised about Ensberg.
The only reason I took Feliz and not Ensberg was because altho I was maybe 90% sure that Ensberg would play two, I was 99% sure that Feliz would, since he plays 3 positions (1B, 3B, and LF).
But I'm certainly not surprised that the 40 year-old Biggio is gonna sit one out; I just gotta hope now that the 35 year-old Durham doesn't.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 09:17 PM
I'm really starting to think that I'd be better if I had forgotten the doubleheader, as I usually do
except for the pitching staff of course.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 09:21 PM
Originally posted by SC:
Looks like me and Zia will be fightin' to see who gets on bottom.
We're having fun in our little basement, if the rest of you couldn't tell.
Edit: Of
course this starts a new page! :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/13/06 11:36 PM
Thursday - HOU@SFO D/H
CC Hou (1)+() 19+
JG Hou (1)+() 11+
TM Hou (1)+() 14+
PL Hou (1)+() 26+
DB Hou (1)+() 29+
DC Hou (1)+() 27+
GG Hou (1)+() 29+
JL Hou (1)+() 14+
LZ Cle ()
SC NYY (19) 53+
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 05:10 AM
CS, I just realized we had identical lineups - Thome's my homey, too.
I've already experienced several "firsts" for the 2006 baseball season:
- My first Internet banning was yesterday. I was caught doing homework late Tuesday night, so my mom declared that I wouldn't be allowed on the computer the next day. This is just the beginning of a long season in which my mom and I will "fight" over schoolwork vs. baseball, but I didn't expect it this soon. What
kills me is that the HW I was doing didn't even need to be done that night. Anyway, in a completely desperate move, I set my lineup for my school group in my computer class yesterday, and I gave my cousin my password to our group to set the same lineup when we got home. My mom ended up finding out about my bending the rules in the computer class, but, being the incredibly understanding mom that she is, she let me use the computer late last night after homework - it was at this time that I switched to Thome...whew!
(Disclaimer: I'm not as bad as you might think I am with my schoolwork - I do procrastinate, but I always make sure I get it done. My problem is that I'm willing to sacrifice sleep to maintain both schoolwork and baseball, which my mom doesn't agree with...
)
- The DH tonight marked the first game which was extremely personal
and business for me. I felt like Jekyll and Hyde, cheering on guys like Taveras, Lane, and such, then getting upset when I realized I didn't have them on fantasy, then cursing myself for being so selfish and not focusing on the Astros' purpose. Not to mention all of the superstitious "strategies" I had going, as I watched the game.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 05:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I felt like Jekyll and Hyde, cheering on guys like Taveras, Lane, and such, then getting upset when I realized I didn't have them on fantasy, then cursing myself for being so selfish and not focusing on the Astros' purpose. Not to mention all of the superstitious "strategies" I had going, as I watched the game. My worst superstitious thing I do at Laker games is the way I sit... I sit with my legs crossed, and I lean forward-- but during the first half, I cross my legs towards the Lakers basket, and second half, I switch my legs when they switch sides... I swear, when I don't do it, we lose, and when I do it, we win. It's only crazy if it doesn't work, right? :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 07:35 AM
Tell your mom to get in touch with me, GG.
I'll straighten her right out.
(Of course if you're not particularly anxious to tell your mom that you communicate with men who you met on an internet message board and who are old enough to be your father, I'll understand perfectly
)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 07:43 AM
Actually, Gina, "old enough to be your grandfather" sounds much better.
Kinda gives me a "nice, harmless old grandfather type" sound and feeling.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 11:25 AM
Thursday Scores & Friday's Probables
CC 485 Hou (1)+(23) 72 557 Fla Willis 0-0 1.38
TM^ 463 Hou (1)+(23) 75 538 Atl Hudson 0-1 12.38
JG 467 Hou (1)+(23) 69 536 Bos Schilling 2-0 1.93
PL 446 Hou (1)+(23) 86 532 Bos
DB 436 Hou (1)+(23) 88 524 StL Carpenter 1-0 3.27
GG^ 414 Hou (1)+(23) 88 502 StL
DC 426 Hou (1)+(23) 73 499 Ari Webb 0-0 2.77
JL 411 Hou (1)+(23) 79 490 StL
SC^ 299 NYY (19) 73 372 Bos
LZ 320 Cle (-8) 35 355 Cle Westbrook 2-0 1.98
The race tightens....Top 8 separated now by only 67 points.
The guy who really got brutalized yesterday was SC.
On a typical day with no DH, his 73 probably would have been good enough to make up a significant amount of ground. Instead,......
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 11:28 AM
How does TM have 538 points and JG 536 yet Geoff is in second place?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 11:34 AM
Very easy.....I made a boo-boo.
All fixed now.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 11:35 AM
Who's going to fix it on ESPN?
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Who's going to fix it on ESPN?
Maybe the same guy who'll take me out of the basement.
Hey, Zia, I'm on top of ya now.
No diet jokes, please.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
How does TM have 538 points and JG 536 yet Geoff is in second place?
yeah, how?????
:p
it's amazing that it's still focked up on ESPN. maybe they have a special system that avoids me of joining the top 2 or something :rolleyes:
PS: another day that I'm about to feel the panic, anxiety and excitement of having a lonely PS.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 02:23 PM
That's the way to win this game, TM.
By making better picks than everyone else.
Don't be anxious, be confident (altho I can see readily enough why you're not confident with Hudson.....How the hell did you come up with him today, of all people?
)
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 04:29 PM
I had the D-Train until about 5 min before it locked and now I'm convinced again that I should've gone with him!
I only took Hudson because I didn't think he'd make 3 poor starts in a row, but now I've come to believe that "not poor" is not what I need. I was a pussy in this one!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 05:41 PM
Heck, the ESPN site's scores are all messed up. Looking at SC's points he actually moved up and LZ is in last place.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 09:51 PM
Guys, regarding the scoring, this is what I was freaking out about a couple of days ago. I found out that if you click on one of the zero columns (such as Week 3, for now), then it'll put all of us in order, just listed under one rank. I sure hope they fix this, however.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/14/06 10:05 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Plaw, I've got Carpenter going today, and I'm listed with Webb...?
Yeah, another boo-boo. JG had me all upset this morning with me responding to his whine.
It's DC with Webb.....
I make up my little sheet with everyone's points the night before, then I just fill in the totals before posting them.
Going into last nite's games, DC was ahead of you in the standings, so when I wrote down everyone's pitcher for today this morning the final scores weren't in yet.
Then when I saw you had passed DC I reversed the two of you in the standings, but didn't reverse your pitching choices.
Or something like that.
All fixed now.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 07:10 AM
Thanks, Plaw. Wouldn't have been so bad to go with him, after all - he really shut down my boys' offense.
But I did get to see Willy make a stunning play!
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 07:51 AM
I don't know, bro... it worked again tonight, we won 110-99. Although maybe that was just because we were playing the 21-58 Blazers.
I like to think it was me, though.
Originally posted by SC:
Hey, Zia, I'm on top of ya now.
And I don't mind at all. I always have preferred... never mind, too much info?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 08:09 AM
Zia, we really should start a "Superstition Thread." Maybe we're not the only psychos - I think that would provide some comfort. And if we are, well, at least we've got each other.
Last night, I nearly denied myself of checking the fantasy scores during the game, because I was so nervous, but I finally did during some of the commercial breaks. At one break, however, I was in the room with the computer, saw the game was back on and that Oswalt was about to make the first pitch - I literally
ran back to the other room I was in, hoping to make it before the delivery. I did, and I breathed a sigh of relief. Then, I realized I was an idiot for believing that it had anything to do with the game.
But if I had the chance, I'd do it again, I tell ya! I don't regret it one bit! Those guys are nothing without me...if only they knew what I do for them.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 08:48 AM
OMG I'm
sure other people here have superstitious things they do... I think all sports fans do. That'd be a great thread, you should start it. Or at least, like you said, it'd be you and me.
I'm so glad you got back to the game on time!! OMG imagine! Phew!
I swear, is something wrong with us?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 11:23 AM
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables
CC 557 Fla (18) 49 606 Bos Wakefield 1-1 6.52
TM 538 Atl (13) 59 597 Was Patterson 0-0 6.30
PL^ 532 Bos (33) 64 596 Oak Harden 1-0 2.84
JG 536 Bos (33) 52 588 NYM Trachsel 1-0 1.50
DB 524 StL (22) 60 584 Oak
DC^ 499 Ari (27) 51 550 StL Ponson 0-0 5.40
JL^ 490 StL (22) 53 543 Was
GG 502 StL (22) 37 539 NYM
SC^ 372 Bos (33) 56 428 Bos
LZ 355 Cle (04) 25 380 Cle Carmona 0-0 0.00
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 08:17 PM
Trachsel
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 08:36 PM
Ditto.
(Actually, it's probably me jinxing you. Advice to everyone: don't take the same PS as me...)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 08:57 PM
Oh, it's definitely me.
The Curse of Pork.
Many here remember it all too well, and now you're learning. Take my PS, and you're focked!!
UNLESS, however, Plaw takes it, too. For some reason he's often immune...
So *my* goal is to predict
his PS so I do well.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 10:21 PM
Harden Have no fear.
I'm a victim today of the "Curse of DB's Pitching Staff".
Notwithstanding DB's pitching problems in the Yahoo game, in this game....
W-L E.R.A. PTS PPG
-
When PL has same PS as DB 4-4 4.44 73 9.13
When PL has different PS 3-3 4.06 78 13.00
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 11:43 PM
what's the big difference??? you suck either way!!!
:p
just kidding. I'm still in line for a pitching disaster too
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/15/06 11:51 PM
Doesn't matter. Harden settled down, and the bullpen saved us, for a +20.
I'll take it.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/16/06 11:19 AM
One of the things I had intended to do before the seaon started was post my predictions along with the "odds" of everyone winning and a few of sentences of "comment and analysis",
a la one of those pre-season baseball magazines.
For some reason I never got around to it, and then it slipped my mind, but had I done it before the game started, it would have looked something like this:
1 PL 3-1 Out to prove last year was a fluke
2 JL 7-2 This is one of the sports in "MOAAFS"
3 JG 4-1 Finally a legit contender to win title
4 DB 9-2 Could be out of practice
5 GG 10-1 Seems very dedicated, but is that enough?
6 CC 15-1 If she can stay away from the Johnsons.....
7 TM 20-1 MUST avoid those deadly missed days
8 DC 99-1 Only because he told me in advance he'd be
missing a lot of days because of vacations
9 LZ 99-1 Same as above Interestingly, if we leave DC and LZ out of the discussion for the moment (since neither expects to be able to play the full season), the two players I picked for last and next-to-last, TM & CC, are currently first and second, respectively.
Saturday Scores & Sunday Standings TM^ 597 Was (36) 44 641 Bos Burkett 2-0 1.29
CC 606 Bos (18) 34 640 Bos
PL 596 Oak (20) 39 635 Bos
DB^ 584 Oak (20) 42 626 Bos
JG 588 NYM (-4) 21 609 Bos
JL^ 543 Was (36) 54 597 NYM Bannister 1-0 2.77
DC 550 StL (21) 31 581 Bos
GG 539 NYM (-4) 22 561 Bos
SC 428 Bos (18) 34 462 Bos
LZ 380 Cle (26) 51 431 Cle Lee 1-0 3.97
Horrible day for the offense yesterday.
Fortunately for everyone except himself, the person with the best pitching score, TM with 36, also managed the worst offensive score, with 8. And JL, also with 36 in pitching had
one of the worst offensive scores, with 18.
And fortunately for themselves, the two with the worst pitching scores, GG and JG with -4, managed the best offensive scores yesterday, with 26 and 25, respectively.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/16/06 01:22 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
players I picked for last and next-to-last, TM & CC, are currently first and second, respectively.
That hurts PL...straight to the core.
I'm in second place by 1 lousy point.
At least it could be 10 points or so. That just pisses me off.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/16/06 01:34 PM
Sorry...I just call 'em as I see 'em.
Nothing would please me more than to see you finish second (to me, of course), though.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/16/06 02:35 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Sorry...I just call 'em as I see 'em.
Then get a thicker prescription for your glasses. :p
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/16/06 06:35 PM
fuckin' Ken Griffey Jr!!!
did he retire or something?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/16/06 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] Sorry...I just call 'em as I see 'em.
Then get a thicker prescription for your glasses. :p [/b][/quote]I picked up a pair of these.....
Hope they help.....
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/16/06 11:50 PM
No, I think he sneezed and broke a hip.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/17/06 05:11 PM
Sunday Scores & Monday's Probables & Standings PL^ 635 Bos (26) 68 703 NYM Martinez 2-0 3.46
CC 640 Bos (26) 48 688 ChC Maddux 2-0 1.46
DB^ 626 Bos (26) 60 686 NYM
TM 641 Bos (26) 42 683 NYM
JG 609 Bos (26) 51 660 CWS Contreras 1-0 1.93
JL 597 NYM (14) 54 651 NYM
GG 561 Bos (26) 55 616 MYM
DC 581 Bos (26) 31 612 NYM
SC 462 Bos (26) 55 517 NYM
LZ 431 Cle (21) 50 481 Cle Byrd 1-1 10.24
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/17/06 05:15 PM
Ooooh, I'm caught between and PL and DB Manwich.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/17/06 05:52 PM
From The Department Of Useless Statistics Previous Totals Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
CC 5-4 4.00 112 262 111 .424 245 357
JG 4-5 4.90 78 289 131 .453 255 333
TM 4-4 5.47 60 246 110 .447 243 303
DB 4-4 5.50 56 264 118 .447 242 298
PL 3-5 5.07 56 272 126 .463 242 298
DC 6-2 4.44 110 223 85 .381 174 284
JL 4-5 4.89 79 262 98 .374 202 281
GG 3-6 5.56 35 276 116 .420 241 276
LZ 5-1 3.76 90 182 76 .418 159 249
SC 2-3 4.19 53 156 58 .371 115 168 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
PL 6-2 2.96 141 229 134 .585 264 405
DB 5-3 2.92 126 243 135 .556 262 388
TM 7-1 2.54 161 229 120 .524 219 380
JL 5-3 3.17 123 237 128 .540 247 370
SC 6-1 2.91 143 214 99 .463 206 349
GG 5-3 3.17 119 220 121 .550 221 340
CC 4-4 3.42 101 235 118 .502 230 331
DC 6-2 2.41 153 223 93 .417 175 328
JG 4-4 3.80 106 230 119 .517 221 327
LZ 2-4 5.54 41 179 100 .559 191 232
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
PL 9-7 4.02 197 501 260 .519 506 703
CC 9-8 3.73 213 497 229 .461 475 688
DB 9-7 4.22 182 507 253 .499 504 686
TM 11-5 4.03 221 475 230 .484 462 683
JG 8-9 4.39 184 519 250 .482 476 660
JL 9-8 4.09 202 499 226 .453 449 651
GG 8-9 4.42 154 496 237 .478 462 616
DC 12-4 3.43 263 446 178 .399 349 612
SC 8-4 3.42 196 370 157 .424 321 517
LZ 7-5 4.63 131 361 176 .488 350 481
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/17/06 06:07 PM
What happened to my pitching totals under "this week"?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/17/06 06:38 PM
David Ortiz can kiss my ass.
Oh, wait, I have him in my Yahoo team.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/17/06 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
What happened to my pitching totals under "this week"? Maybe you were ahead of PL -- and he just didn't like seeing that!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/17/06 10:57 PM
It must be his new glasses.
He can't forget about crabcake.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/18/06 09:37 AM
Short of doubleheaders, yesterday's scores might well be the highest scoring day (for everyone) we've had in this league.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/18/06 11:30 AM
Nice job by JG and CC yesterday, going successfully against the grain and Pedro with both Chicago pitching staffs, and coming up with 37 and 33 points respectively.
Monday Scores & Tuesday's Probables & Standings PL 703 NYM (27) 65 768 Hou Oswalt 2-0 1.99
DB^ 686 NYM (27) 60 746 Hou
TM^ 683 NYM (27) 63 746 CWS Garland 1-1 13.94
CC 688 ChC (33) 50 738 NYY R. Johnson 2-1 2.25
JG 660 CWS (37) 68 728 Hou
JL 651 NYM (27) 52 703 Sea Hernandez 0-1 5.59
GG 616 MYM (27) 80 696 Hou
DC 612 NYM (27) 58 670 Hou
SC 517 NYM (27) 55 572 StL Suppan 0-1 4.09
LZ 481 Cle (26) 66 547 Cle J. Johnson 1-0 2.13
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/18/06 11:41 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
What happened to my pitching totals under "this week"? I dunno
But I found them.
BTW, I re-labeled the three sections up there (from "Last Week" to "Previous Totals", and "This Week" to "Last Week") to more accurately reflect what they represent.
Your Commissioner,
plawrence
--------------------
Working harder to serve you better.....
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/19/06 03:40 AM
My apologies to the other Wizard takers...
But, as y'all know, it's always personal before it's business, and we got the win. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/19/06 09:55 AM
Pitching wasn't exactly the name of the game yesterday.
Plenty of offense throughout the majors last night; 15 games, 174 runs scored, 11.6 per game.....
Meanwhile, most of us were betrayed by the Houston relievers and the 10 runs Milwaukee scored in the last 3 innings, 8 of them charged to the 'pen.
Not to mention the outstanding performance (-20) turned in by the "Big Unit", mitigiated only somewhat by the +7 notched by the Yanks relievers, burning CC; and the St. Louis staff, led by John Suppan's -28, which screwed SC.
Only the White Sox, with their +26 propelling TM into first place, and JL's Seattle, led by phenom Felix Hernandez, with their +6, managed to turn in a positive pitching score for any of us last night.
(Unless you count LZ also....)
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables & Standings TM^ 746 CWS (26) 73 819 Bos Schilling 3-0 1.64
PL 768 Hou (-9) 21 789 Bos
CC^ 738 NYY (-13) 28 766 Bos
DB 746 Hou (-9) 19 765 Bos
JG 728 Hou (-9) 28 756 LAD Penny 2-0 1.50
GG^ 696 Hou (-9) 45 741 Bos
JL 703 Sea ( 6) 31 734 Bos
DC 670 Hou (-9) 19 689 StL Carpenter 1-1 2.37
LZ^ 547 Cle (24) 64 611 Cle Westbrook 2-1 3.66
SC 572 StL (-30) 15 587 Bos
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/19/06 11:16 AM
I've been spanked by a Johnson.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/20/06 12:07 AM
9 points from Vinny for me today!! I'll take it.
And plaw, 4 points from Dunn isn't too shabby. I'll take that too. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/20/06 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
9 points from Vinny for me today!! I'll take it. That figures. I have him for tomorrow,
after he blew his load today.... :rolleyes: The again, I said the same thing about A-Rod and Andruw Jones yesterday.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/20/06 12:15 AM
Sorry Geoff, he'll probably need a nap tomorrow. Don't most men need one after they've blown their load?
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/20/06 12:55 AM
there is room for some disaster tomorrow. I don't know about all of you, but I did have a rough time trying to figure out a team and now I'm convinced I really can't do that. I hope everybody picks the same PS so if I go down, I take everybody with me
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/20/06 11:12 AM
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables & Standings TM 819 Bos (33) 55 874 Oak Zito 1-2 7.53
PL 789 Bos (33) 67 856 SaD Peavy 1-2 5.50
DB^ 765 Bos (33) 68 833 SaD
CC 766 Bos (33) 61 827 Bal Bedard 3-0 2.25
JG 756 LAD (15) 58 814 Min Baker 1-1 3.18
GG 741 Bos (33) 65 806 SaD
JL 734 Bos (33) 44 778 SaD
DC 689 StL (35) 60 749 Tex Padilla 2-1 4.76
SC^ 587 Bos (33) 65 652 Bos Wakefield 1-2 4.34
LZ 611 Cle (-37) -8 603 Cle Carmona 1-0 1.50
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/20/06 11:24 PM
Ok I'm back in. With FB over, I officially changed my home page to this game. Not promising I'll make it out of the basement, but whatev, I'm here.
P.S. It's tough adjusting to the numbers after basketball, isn't it?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/20/06 11:46 PM
ZIA!!! Now,
that is the spirit!
Here this is, "my" sport, and I'm doing terrible - I might have to rent a space in the basement, too.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 12:40 AM
CS, I just heard about Derrek Lee!
Sure, he was competition for us, but I'm truly sorry to hear that.
Hope your boys can keep it up without him.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 12:41 AM
CS? What about me????
I drafted him!!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 12:44 AM
Uh, it's not business - it's personal. :p
Fantasy baseball isn't everything, you know.
Did I just say that?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 11:13 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
CS? What about me???? I drafted him!! Shelton is available, you know.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 11:41 AM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables & Standings TM 874 Oak (05) 40 914 Atl Smoltz 1-1 3.86
PL 856 SaD (-1) 24 880 Was Patterson 1-0 4.00
CC^ 827 Bal (23) 51 878 Bos Beckett 3-0 1.29
DB 833 SaD (-1) 38 871 StL Mulder 1-0 4.05
JG 814 Min (03) 27 841 Bos
GG 806 SaD (-1) 27 833 Hou Rodriguez 2-0 2.84
DC^ 749 Tex (22) 59 808 Bos
JL 778 SaD (-1) 23 801 Atl
SC 652 Bos (08) 34 686 Bos
LZ 603 Cle (-13) -10 593 Hou
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 06:14 PM
DB picks ps against his own Cubbies. Are you giving up already doucheman? hahaha.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 06:43 PM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 06:52 PM
DB has discovered, I think, that winning at fantasy sports is more important than having the real-life team that you root for win, and "Homerism" has gone out the window.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 07:16 PM
Oh, yeah, homerism. Fortunately I don't suffer from that ailment.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/21/06 07:39 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Shelton is available, you know.
I still have Jeff K*nt... tho it seems I've single-handedly cursed his career by drafting him. :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 03:51 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
DB has discovered, I think, that winning at fantasy sports is more important than having the real-life team that you root for win, and "Homerism" has gone out the window.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I had a strong sense, while reading this, that it was directed at me.
CS...man, what's gotten into you?
You were the last of the non-vultures! :p
I took Duke a while back and played "Duke of Earl" over and over nearly the entire game for him - that strategy was an obvious failure, so I got the idea tonight that maybe it works as a jinx against him, so I played it to help my boys out...and they held on for the win. Must've been my high-pitched singing mixed with the actual music that did it.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 03:52 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]Shelton is available, you know.
I still have Jeff K*nt... tho it seems I've single-handedly cursed his career by drafting him. :rolleyes: :p [/b][/quote]Um why didn't you pick up Shelton when he was available
*slowly backs away into the darkness*
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 05:35 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
Um why didn't you pick up Shelton when he was available Shelton was nobody before and during the draft... and, he'll be nobody again by next week. I'm not giving up my ace for him.... :p
(That was a guarantee that Shelton will hit 60 HRs this year, no doubt...)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 07:09 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
CS...man, what's gotten into you? You were the last of the non-vultures! :p It was a non-vulture move, I promise!
I was actually really at a loss on who to pick last night and I have no idea how I landed on Stl vs the Cubs.
But you always knew I'm more of a Wrigley fan than I am a Cubs fan. But I am a fan of D-Lee though.
Thanks for your thoughts the other night.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 01:20 PM
Gee Geoff, I didn't know the spanking you gave me for my birthday was really the whooping our ps would take last night. Thanks for the gift of the curse of pork.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 01:57 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] DB has discovered, I think, that winning at fantasy sports is more important than having the real-life team that you root for win, and "Homerism" has gone out the window.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I had a strong sense, while reading this, that it was directed at me.
[/b][/quote]No, not at all.
I was speaking only of DB.
You and DJ, I fear,
haven't come to that realization as yet. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 02:38 PM
What was that line again? Hmm. Oh yes. A knife to my heart, Plaw. A knife to my heart.
:p
Well, CS, at least going against your boys worked out well enough - if they'd won, I would've never let you hear the end of it.
Just teasing about the vulture thing - it'd take a lot for you to catch up to these other guys.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 06:58 PM
Sorry for the delay today, folks...
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables & Standings TM 914 Atl (-9) 18 932 NYM Martinez 3-0 3.66
PL 880 Was (28) 51 931 NYM
DB^ 871 StL (20) 44 915 NYM
CC 878 Bos (04) 27 905 NYM
GG^ 833 Hou (20) 41 874 Hou Buchholz 0-1 3.18
JG 841 Bos (04) 19 860 NYM
DC 808 Bos (04) 25 833 NYM
JL 801 Atl (-9) 20 821 NYM
SC 686 Bos (04) 15 701 NYM
LZ 593 Hou (20) 40 633 Hou
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/22/06 11:49 PM
That's just great... I had 5 of my offense guys washed out today... :rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 12:12 AM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 12:20 AM
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 01:31 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
That's just great... I had 5 of my offense guys washed out today... :rolleyes:
if that was a stat, we could make a tight race - I had four of them
also, why in hell isn't Randy Winn playing??? I planned to keep him the whole series at Coors and now I don't know what to do.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
why in hell isn't Randy Winn playing???
Pass me the tissues again... he's not playing because he's on MY draft team. :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 01:57 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
he's not playing because he's on MY draft team. :rolleyes:
That's no big deal....at least you can make that game up.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 01:59 AM
I'm not concerned about the draft game, I was just answering his question of why Winn wasn't playing...
BTW - Thanks for your congrats in the Horse Racing thread. :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 02:03 AM
I guess I forgot that stupid game again
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 05:23 AM
Shoot.
Well, I guess two points was worth it for homerism.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/23/06 08:45 AM
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's Probables & Standings PL^ 931 NYM (38) 63 994 Hou Oswalt 3-0 2.76
TM 932 NYM (38) 55 987 Hou
DB 915 NYM (38) 64 979 CWS Contreras 2-0 1.29
CC 905 NYM (38) 61 966 ChC Maddux 3-0 1.33
GG 874 Hou (36) 73 947 Hou
JG 860 NYM (38) 55 915 CWS
DC 833 NYM (38) 55 888 CWS
JL 821 NYM (38) 63 884 Hou
SC 701 NYM (38) 55 756 Hou
LZ 633 Hou (36) 63 696 Hou
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 07:33 AM
Hmmmm.....
I have a feeling that except for CC, we all did our teams for Monday a little too early on Sunday.
Every site has Carpenter pitching for St. Louis today.
I don't remember who they had when I did my team - Suppan maybe? - but it wasn't Carpenter.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 08:06 AM
Damn... I already picked Glavine. Second choice was Zambrano.
Ahh well, and just as well... since BOTH Zam and Carp are on my draft team, surely BOTH will fuck up tomorrow anyway -- let alone Glavine who'll do worst of all. :rolleyes:
'night!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 08:09 AM
I'll take Carpenter off your hands if you're worried about him....
I'll give you pretty much anyone you want for him.
Posted By: Don Jasani
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 08:32 AM
Hey P.L. leave me out of this brother, I'm not even playing this game for Christ's sakes! Give me a break!lol!
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 08:41 AM
I was talking about "Homerism" in general, not this game specifically.
I
know you're not playing, but if you
were you would probably be taking a team of all Blue Jays every day (Homer). :p
MaryCas already tried that strategy one year with he Yankees. It didn't work out too well, though.
:rolleyes:
So when can we expect the "Vernon Wells For MVP" and "Roy Halladay for Cy Young" threads to pop up?
Any day now, I'd guess......
Posted By: Don Jasani
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 08:52 AM
I'll say it now and get used to it my Baseball savvy friend. VERNON WELLS and TROY GLAUS for co A.L. M.V.P.s, ROY HALLADAY for CY YOUNG AWARD WINNER as the best pitcher in the A.L.! B.J. RYAN Closer of the century! All individual and team awards in The A.L. and M.L.B. will be taken by MY Blue Jays and after we sip sweet champagne in October or beer, whatevert.f., WE will conquer Canada, America, Mexico, The D.R., Puerto Rico, Panama, Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Japan, South Korea, China, India, Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, The Middle East, Europe, Asia, Africa, North and South America and the entire World. So be afraid be very afraid...muhuhahahahahahahah!lol! The scary thing is I'm only half kidding. I am a Homer though, right?!
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 08:58 AM
To be serious for a moment.....
I don't know about Wells or Glaus for MVP - Toronto would have to win the division and one of them would need a career year, I think - but Halladay is a serious CY candidate and if the Jays have a good year and B.J. piles up the saves, he could be Fireman of the Year.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 10:27 AM
I have Cardinals PS today, Plaw...and Bethie has the Cubbies...
They did have Suppan listed on the game's site, but MLB's probable pitcher list and the Cardinals MLB page both had Carpenter listed - at least they did when I set my lineup...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 10:35 AM
Yeah, I see.....I don't know what made me think it was CC with Carpenter.
In any case, nice catch. Now you just gottta hope that it works out for you.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 10:41 AM
No kidding.
I wanted to be stubborn and prove my homer strategy, but Carp was too much of a temptation - if it turns out I should've gone with Andy, I plan to use you as my scapegoat. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 10:44 AM
Note: Pitcher's W-L record reflects his team's record in games he started, not the pitcher's individual W-L record.
Sunday's Scores & Monday's Probables & Standings PL 994 Hou (26) 48 1042 Ari Webb 2-2 2.51
TM 987 Hou (26) 43 1030 ChC Zambrano 2-2 3.97
DB 979 CWS (14) 38 1017 Ari Webb
GG 947 Hou (26) 66 1013 StL Carpenter 2-2 1.67
CC 966 ChC (18) 43 1009 ChC
JG 915 CWS (14) 58 973 NYM Glavine 3-1 1.38
DC 888 CWS (14) 52 940 NYM
JL 884 Hou (26) 46 930 Ari
SC 756 Hou (26) 39 795 Hou Pettitte 1-3 5.25 (DNP)
LZ 696 Hou (26) 52 748 Hou (DNP)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/24/06 11:42 AM
From The Department Of Useless Statistics Previous Totals
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
PL 9-7 4.02 197 501 260 .519 506 703
CC 9-8 3.73 213 497 229 .461 475 688
DB 9-7 4.22 182 507 253 .499 504 686
TM 11-5 4.03 221 475 230 .484 462 683
JG 8-9 4.39 184 519 250 .482 476 660
JL 9-8 4.09 202 499 226 .453 449 651
GG 8-9 4.42 154 496 237 .478 462 616
DC 12-4 3.43 263 446 178 .399 349 612
SC 8-4 3.42 196 370 157 .424 321 517
LZ 7-5 4.63 131 361 176 .488 350 481
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
GG 6-1 3.57 132 204 130 .637 265 397
TM 5-2 2.76 146 201 98 .488 201 347
PL 6-1 3.86 142 230 96 .417 197 339
DB 6-1 4.00 122 225 108 .480 209 331
DC 6-1 3.70 131 192 92 .479 197 328
CC 5-2 3.48 136 213 91 .427 185 321
JG 4-3 3.70 102 194 103 .531 211 313
JL 4-3 4.06 120 216 82 .380 159 279
SC 4-3 4.18 106 198 89 .449 172 278
LZ 5-2 4.43 82 187 87 .465 185 267
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
PL 15-8 3.97 339 731 356 .487 703 1042
TM 16-7 3.65 367 676 328 .485 663 1030
DB 15-8 4.15 304 732 361 .493 713 1017
GG 14-10 4.17 286 700 367 .524 727 1013
CC 14-10 3.66 349 710 320 .451 660 1009
JG 12-12 4.19 286 713 353 .495 687 973
DC 18-5 3.51 394 638 270 .423 546 940
JL 12-11 4.08 322 715 308 .431 608 930
SC 12-7 3.70 302 568 246 .433 493 795
LZ 12-7 4.55 213 548 263 .480 535 748
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/25/06 10:38 AM
We're only three weeks into the season, but I'm pretty sure we've never had five people so tightly bunched in 1st thru 5th this late, with only 26 points separating them, and four people between 2nd and 5th only 6 points apart.
(Once again, and for the future, the pitcher's W-L record in parentheses is his team's record in games he has started, not the pitcher's indivudual W-L mark)
Monday's Scores & Tuesday's Probables & Standings PL 1042 Ari (29) 49 1091 Bos Schilling 4-0 1.61
TM 1030 ChC (28) 40 1070 SaD Peavy 1-3 4.32
GG^ 1013 StL (22) 54 1067 Bos
CC^ 1009 ChC (28) 56 1065 SaD
DB 1017 ChC (28) 47 1064 SaD
JG 973 NYM (00) 25 998 Bos
JL 930 Ari (29) 56 986 Fla Willis 1-3 2.92
DC 940 NYM (00) 24 964 Tor Chacin (?) 3-0 5.61
SC 795 Hou (05) 14 809 Bos
LZ 748 Hou (05) 23 771 Hou Nieve 0-1 4.91 (DNP)
is plodding along as he tries to prove last year
was a fluke....
TM still (suprisingly) hasn't missed any days....
GG's "steal" of Carpenter didn't work out, but she remains scorching hot....
CC climbed back to 4th with day's high score....
DB was only 9 points off day's high, yet he dropped two spots in this very tight race....
JG's "Curse of the Pork" strikes Tom Glavine....
JL tied for day's high, but still has a long way to go; Fortunately for him, there is....
DC's Chacin pick today is at least questionable....
SC is still fighting off his 3-day late start, but even if you give him an additional 120 points or so... .... and
LZ just seems to not want to get into the game.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 01:40 PM
Hey
JL.....
Since I just traded for the guy and you picked the Washington PS tonight, I thought that this little bit of news from Rotoworld which caught my eye would interest you also:
Latest News Apr. 25, 2006 - 8:46 pm et
John Patterson will miss his next scheduled start because of a strained flexor muscle in his right forearm.
He's only expected to miss the one start, but since the problem has been bothering him for several weeks, maybe the Nationals should give him more than just a few days off. 
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables & Standings
PL 1091 Bos (12) 29 1120 CWS Buehrle 4-0 1.93
GG^ 1067 Bos (12) 39 1106 Hou Rodriguez 4-0 2.52
DB^ 1064 SaD (-2) 29 1093 StL Mulder 4-0 3.86
TM 1070 SaD (-2) 20 1090 Cin Arroyo 3-1 3.04
CC 1065 SaD (-2) 21 1086 Cin
JG 998 Bos (12) 44 1042 CWS
JL 986 Fla (13) 43 1029 Was Ortiz 1-2 7.31 :(
DC 964 Tor (21) 57 1021 Det Maroth 3-0 0.49
SC 809 Bos (12) 40 849 CWS
LZ 771 Hou (29) 47 818 Hou (DNP)
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 02:58 PM
On April 25th, our in house fantasy sprots
expert had this to say about Don Cardi's pick for starting pitcher:
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]DC's Chacin pick today is at least questionable.... [/b]
Final Result :
POS STAFF: STARTER IP ER H BB K WIN TOTAL
PS Blue Jays Chacin 9.0 3 6 2 6 1 21
:D
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 03:32 PM
Well gee....
You didn't have to embarrass me by pointing out that out, did you?
Hell, if I could pick a winning or losing pitching staff every day, I could make a fortune betting on baseball games.
Chacin wasn't a
bad pick, it was just -as I said - "questionable", given the pitchers who were going yesterday who are clearly much better than he is.
And the fact is, it
was a questionable pick, unless you knew something that probably 99% of the people playing this game didn't know.
If you do have some special inside knowledge that will help your future questionable picks work out like this one did, I guess we can expect to start watching your inevitable rise in the standings, from 8th place in our league - ahead of only someone who isn't playing and someone else who started three days late - and from 4020th place in the standings against everyone in the world who is playing.
Of course, there's always the possibility that your Chacin pick was the result of what in these games we call "going unpredicatable", a situation in which someone is so far behind that they feel the only way to make up ground is by making picks that they
know no one else will be making (like Chacin), and hoping that they get lucky and have a good day (which Chacin did), while everyone else's "better" picks have a bad day (like Schilling, Peavy, and Willis did).
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 04:18 PM
Well at at least Washington is playing Florida.
:rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 04:35 PM
Thank heavens for small favors.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 05:16 PM
You didn't have to embarrass me by pointing out that out, did you?
Wow! You like to dish it out huh, but don't like when you're wrong.
Hell, if I could pick a winning or losing pitching staff every day, I could make a fortune betting on baseball games.
Chacin wasn't a bad pick, it was just -as I said - "questionable", given the pitchers who were going yesterday who are clearly much better than he is.
Your opinion, that's all. :p
Of course, there's always the possibility that your Chacin pick was the result of what in these games we call "going unpredicatable", a situation in which someone is so far behind that they feel the only way to make up ground is by making picks that they know no one else will be making (like Chacin), and hoping that they get lucky and have a good day (which Chacin did), while everyone else's "better" picks have a bad day (like Schilling, Peavy, and Willis did).
Possibly! But then again we still haven't even gotten out of April yet.
And the fact is, it was a questionable pick, unless you knew something that probably 99% of the people playing this game didn't know.
Could be!
If you do have some special inside knowledge that will help your future questionable picks work out like this one did,
Relax Plaw, you take these things waayyyy tooooo seriously! It's all in fun. As YOU told me, "Over in the sports threads we goof on each other all the time."
So take a chill pill. :p
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 05:25 PM
That
was a lucky pick. :p
And you'll be even luckier if Maroth (3-0, 0.49) keeps up his unbelievable current pace -- cuz he won't.
There - I Anti-Jinxed™ you, so he should do well.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 05:38 PM
Sheesh....what did you do, buy a case of tissues?
Anytime I say something, you interpret it as crying or whining.
And as far as goofing or not goofing goes, I think
you're the one that needs the chill pill.
Let's see now, just FYI......
Originally posted by plawrence:
Well gee....
You didn't have to embarrass me by pointing out that out, did you?
Said in pure jest.
Certainly not a "whine", so why the crying baby picture?
Hell, if I could pick a winning or losing pitching staff every day, I could make a fortune betting on baseball games.
Said by way of poining out that, in fact, I
don't know everything, so in effect I'm really goofing on myself.
I don't see where the box of tissues come in to play here.
Chacin wasn't a bad pick, it was just -as I said - "questionable", given the pitchers who were going yesterday who are clearly much better than he is.
And the fact is, it was a questionable pick, unless you knew something that probably 99% of the people playing this game didn't know.
Statement of fact in the spirit of seriously discussing the game.
If you think that Chacin is a better pitcher than Schilling, Peavy, or Willis......
If you do have some special inside knowledge that will help your future questionable picks work out like this one did, I guess we can expect to start watching your inevitable rise in the standings, from 8th place in our league - ahead of only someone who isn't playing and someone else who started three days late - and from 4020th place in the standings against everyone in the world who is playing.
Strictly goofing on you, breaking your balls, or whatever you want to call it, based on your performance in the game so far.
Lighten up and get a sense of humor. You take things waaaay too personal.
We kid each other all the time in these game threads when someone is doing poorly, and the usual response is to kid the person back about how lousy
he is doing.
I think you're the one that needs the chill pill here.
Of course, there's always the possibility that your Chacin pick was the result of what in these games we call "going unpredicatable", a situation in which someone is so far behind that they feel the only way to make up ground is by making picks that they know no one else will be making (like Chacin), and hoping that they get lucky and have a good day (which Chacin did), while everyone else's "better" picks have a bad day (like Schilling, Peavy, and Willis did).
Honest analysis again. What I suggested above is a legitimate strategy move which we've talked about here many times.
Oh.....and please,
please, PLEASE don't fall back on "I take this too seriously" and you have better things to do with your time than worry about a fantasy game.
That's starting to sound waaay too much like FS. :p
Sure, I take it seriously, but no more so than JG or DB or JL does, or DM did when he played.
We've discussed this before and we all spend roughly the same amount of time every day maybe,
maybe 5-10 minutes or so, doing our "research" and picking our teams, and I think that among the five of us we all have the same desire to win.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 06:04 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
you'll be even luckier if Maroth (3-0, 0.49) keeps up his unbelievable current pace -- cuz he won't.
There - I Anti-Jinxed™ you, so he should do well. Hey, you!
You stay away from Maroth with your jinxes.
I think he's a
GREAT pick today. I think he's a contender for the AL Cy Young Award this year.
I think there's an
excellent chance that he will continue at his present pace. In fact, I fully expect him to.
(Did I mention that I have him on my Yahoo team
)
And he's the
perfect pick for someone in last place looking to gain ground by picking a pitcher that has a reasonably good chance of doing well that no one else figures to have.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 06:06 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
...we all spend roughly the same amount of time every day maybe, maybe 5-10 minutes or so, doing our "research" and picking our teams....
We do? :p I spend a lot more time than that!
Maybe I'm trying
too hard and not going by instincts...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
Well at at least Washington is playing Florida. :rolleyes: I must have been wishing. They're playing the Reds.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 06:31 PM
I spend waaaay more time than that doing my "researches", finding the perfect matchup which results in the guy I picked getting a day off from his manager or going 0-5 against the pitcher whom he previuosly hit .750 in the park where he previously slugged .800
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 08:30 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Lighten up and get a sense of humor. You take things waaaay too personal.
We kid each other all the time in these game threads when someone is doing poorly, and the usual response is to kid the person back about how lousy he is doing.
Exactly. And that is what I was doing with you! If I took being goofed on about fantasy sports so seriosly, I would really need to get a life!
Maybe you interpreted my goofing back on you as being serious, which I was not. I know that you were goofing and so was I.
Now if you want to continue to goof on me, be my guest. It doesn't bother me one bit. It's all in fun. But if I goof back on you then please don't take it seriously or think that I am goofing back because I am taking it personal. Not the case at all Plaw. This is for enjoyment and fun and I don't take playing fantasy sports or kidding about it seriously.
I play for PURE enjoyment and entertainment.
And by the way, you may see me pick my lineup, especially my pitching staff in an unorthadox manner. I sometimes get a kick out of picking my line-up/pitchers by pure instinct.
Now are you trying to tell me how I should manage my team too? :p :p
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Now are you trying to tell me how I should manage my team too? :p :p Someone should. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 08:49 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
And you'll be even luckier if Maroth (3-0, 0.49) keeps up his unbelievable current pace -- cuz he won't.
There - I Anti-Jinxed™ you, so he should do well. Ooops, that must've been an
Anti-Anti-Jinxed™ :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 09:50 PM
I swear, if there was a different name and avatar up there, I'd think I was talking to FS
I expect DC to be calling me "Pee" Lawrence any day now, and instead of hearing about cutting the grass and barbecues and hanging flower baskets, it'll be golf lessons, dance school recitals, and coaching little league teams. :p
Originally posted by plawrence:
...we all spend roughly the same amount of time every day maybe, maybe 5-10 minutes or so, doing our "research" and picking our teams....
Originally posted by J Geoff:
We do? :p I spend a lot more time than that! Maybe I'm trying too hard and not going by instincts... Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I spend waaaay more time than that doing my "researches", finding the perfect matchup which results in the guy I picked getting a day off from his manager or going 0-5 against the pitcher whom he previuosly hit .750 in the park where he previously slugged .800
Funny, guys, especially you TM.
It's nice to know, though, that there are people who actually take this
more seriously than I do, although I suppose you could argue that how much
time someone spends on the game is incidental to how they
feel about it.
But to those who say that these games can be taken too seriously - and I've obviously heard that song before - I would say what I said to Iceman in the hockey thread when he expressed that POV:
These games - especially the baseball and football, whose seasons pretty much cover the entire year except for a few weeks in October - have become kind of a hobby for me.
And, as I said to Iceman: "You're into guns and hunting and all of that. Don't you take it damned seriously?"
I would ask the same question of anyone with a hobby or an interest, whatever that hobby or interest may be.
I'm sure, for exmple, that Don Cardi's son takes his golf game real seriously, and while he plays for the enjoyment of playing - which, of course, is why we
all play any of these games - if he's playing with someone who picks his ball up in the rough and improves his lie without taking a penalty (like I used to do when I played, because I was playing strictly for the fun of it, and although I was breaking the rules, I didn't care because I was just playing for fun) and then when he says something has that person tell him that he's taking the game too seriously.....
We've all played board games, like Monopoly, for example.
Does anyone make deliberately "silly" moves or "wrong" moves because they don't care or because they are playing "strictly for the fun of it"?
I thinkk not. I believe that everyone does their best, and everyone tries their hardest to win because deep down inside, whether they admit it to themselves or others or not, they
want to win.
OK....enough amateur psychoanalyzing for one day.....
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/26/06 09:56 PM
**
(DC takes a deep breath for the long winded Plaw)**
:p
JUST KIDDING PLAW!!!!!!
Don Cardi
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/27/06 10:05 AM
Man, oh man.... I'm doing lousy.
Zia is drawing me back into her lair. ("Stop, NO... I wanna be on top").
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/27/06 01:21 PM
Atrroyo's 36 yesterday crushes the competition.....
Beckett vs. Santana today
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables & Standings TM^ 1090 Cin (36) 74 1164 Min Santana 1-3 4.81
PL 1120 CWS (00) 27 1147 Min
CC^ 1086 Cin (36) 61 1147 Bos Beckett 3-1 2.54
GG 1106 Hou (21) 37 1143 Bos
DB 1093 StL (14) 33 1126 Min
JG 1042 CWS (00) 26 1068 Bos
DC^ 1021 Det (01) 47 1068 Bos
JL 1029 Was (11) 26 1055 Min
SC 849 CWS (00) 21 870 Bos
LZ 818 Hou (21) 41 859 Bos
.....Regains 1st place after massive whine
PL.....Slips to 2nd place tie with Buehrle's Big Donut
CC.....Now tied for 2nd behind Arroyo's big day
GG.....Remains hottest player in the game
DB.....Not worried, as only 38 points separate Top 5
JG.....Another backer of bum Buehrle badly burned
DC.....Back to back solo picks, but Maroth doesn't work
JL.....Thrilled to escape with 11 points after Patterson switch
SC.....Doesn't like the looks of LZ's lair, prefers the top
LZ.....Makes rare appearance to change her team
Posted By: fathersson
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/27/06 08:28 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I swear, if there was a different name and avatar up there, I'd think I was talking to FS
I expect DC to be calling me "Pee" Lawrence any day now, and instead of hearing about cutting the grass and barbecues and hanging flower baskets, it'll be golf lessons, dance school recitals, and coaching little league teams. :p
Gee Pee- it looks like just about everyone sees thru you sooner or later!
The weather is looking goooood. I will think of you with each cookout we do.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/27/06 08:48 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]JG.....Another backer of bum Buehrle badly burned[/b]
I love that!
Guys, next week will present my most difficult fantasy challenge yet. I'm going on a trip for six days, and I'll have no Internet access. My mom's offered to make my picks while I'm gone, which is great, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about explaining the game to her and deciding on my picks for nearly an entire week. Should be interesting.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/27/06 10:00 PM
Originally posted by fathersson:
Gee Pee- it looks like just about everyone sees thru you sooner or later!
Well actually that really isn't the case. Plaw and I needle each other quite a bit, all in fun. That's what real friends do.
But I'll tell you this ; It's impossible for anyone to be able to see through a man like Plaw because he is as solid as they come. His big heart takes up so much room in his body that it makes it impossible to see through him.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/27/06 10:20 PM
Interesting Sociology lesson here, and a fine example of group dynamics.....
FS aligns himself with DC -- very unusual
DC aligns himself with PL -- also very unusual
PL compares DC to FS -- very unusual
Anyway, nice to know that you're out there lurking, FS.
Please
do think of me everytime you flip a steak on the grill, pop open another can of suds, hang a flower basket for mom, mow that lawn and enjoy the delicious and incomparable aroma of freshly cut grass, or stroll hand-in-hand with your best girl or sit under the stars on a blanket watching those July 4th fireworks. :p
Oh, and BTW.....I've been waiting for a situation like this to arise:
It sounds to me like your last post wasn't approved approved by Don Cardi.
Now what happens?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 12:13 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Now what happens? Usually shit.
Hey, plaw, why couldn't you write one of your remarks questioning my choice in pitching like you do to others. That usually results in a guaranteed great outing. :rolleyes:
Something's putrid, and I believe it's my pitching.
I see a bag of corn nuts in my future.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 12:27 AM
Beckett + Broussard + V-Mart = 8 ERs in 4 innings
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]
Now what happens? Usually shit.
[/b][/quote]
Originally posted by Beth E:
Hey, plaw, why couldn't you write one of your remarks questioning my choice in pitching like you do to others. That usually results in a guaranteed great outing. :rolleyes:
So is that how it works Beth E? I need your expert advice here! If Plaw remarks about someone's pick of a pitcher, does it almost become a guaranteed winner?
Help me out here Beth!!
Don Cardi
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[
So is that how it works Beth E? I need your expert advice here! If Plaw remarks about someone's pick of a pitcher, does it almost become a guaranteed winner?
Help me out here Beth!!
Don Cardi
[/QB][/QUOTE]
Rule #1. Don't ask for advice from chicks. We know nothing. We're just here for the scenery and to polish the furniture. :p
There are so many curses and anti jinxes flying around here it's like The Jetsons invaded. You've been warned.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 02:13 AM
Whatta night
I don't
ever recall a scenario like today's:
Everyone picks one of two pitching staffs, and the difference is like 50 points or so.
Glad I was on the right side on this one.
Posted By: fathersson
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 02:52 AM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[quote]Originally posted by fathersson:
[b] Gee Pee- it looks like just about everyone sees thru you sooner or later!
Well actually that really isn't the case. Plaw and I needle each other quite a bit, all in fun. That's what real friends do.
But I'll tell you this ; It's impossible for anyone to be able to see through a man like Plaw because he is as solid as they come. His big heart takes up so much room in his body that it makes it impossible to see through him.
Don Cardi
[/b][/quote]
I laughted so hard, I think I hurt myself.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 05:40 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Everyone picks one of two pitching staffs, and the difference is like 50 points or so.
Glad I was on the right side on this one.
Breaking News!
This might just be the first time I actually tell Plaw to go fuck himself!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 06:32 AM
With all the talk about whining and crying lately, I hope a certain new player here who shall remain nameless (Don Cardi knows who he is) realizes which of the old-timers is the biggest whiner and crier of all, and that it is
certainly not poor, innocent, misunderstood, fantasy sports hobbiest me. :rolleyes:
:p
Let me also add - for the benefit of the luck vs. skill argument - that the Beckett-Santana choice tonight was pretty much a matter of luck the way I see it.
There was no secret, skillfull reason, at least AFAIC, which made me take Santana.
Just a hunch really, figuring he was due for a win already, and the weak KC opposition.
Plus, Beckett's last start was a little weak, coupled with the fact that his oppostion - Cleveland - was stronger.
But I can't honestly say that picking Santana involved any great skill.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 07:14 AM
Hmmmmm......
I took a look at The Leaderboard to see who picked who yesterday, and was very surprised at what it I found.
I only got throughthe first 30 before the 3:00 AM deadline, however....
Minn 22
Bost 4
Yanks 2
StL 1
Keep in mind that these were the leaders already, not people who got there because they picked Santana.
Maybe there was some reason which clearly made Santana the better pick, but if there was I sure don't know what it was, other than what I said above.
Edit: Other Factors:
Santana was cheaper, 4.5 to Beckett's 6.0
Santana was 6-3 lifetime vs. KC in 13 games and 10 starts. He has a lifetime E.R.A. against the Royals of 3.20 over 76 IPs and they have a .188 batting average against him, but was 2-1 in four games (3 starts) at Kauffman Stadium, with an E.R.A. of only 1.85 and a .163 batting average against.
Current Royals have a lifetime batting average of .183 against him, with 3 homers in 120 ABs.
Beckett had never pitched against the Indians or in Jacobs field at all.
Current Indians had a lifetime batting average against him of .350, with 3 homers in only 20 ABs.
Hmmm.....Maybe Santana was the better pick.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 08:37 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I took a look at The Leaderboard to see who picked who yesterday...
Who picked
whom... :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 09:06 AM
I plead guilty to not knowing when to use "who" and when to use "whom".
Kinda like you with "less" and "fewer", I guess, huh?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 09:43 AM
Santana and Minnesota 26, Boston and Beckett -21
Thursday's Scores & Fridday's Probables & Standings TM 1164 Min (26) 47 1211 NYM Martinez 4-0 3.54
PL 1147 Min (26) 46 1193 StL Marquis 3-1 3.55
DB^ 1126 Min (26) 56 1182 NYM
CC 1147 Bos (-21) 5 1152 ChC Maddux 4-0 0.99
GG 1143 Bos (-21) -4 1139 Hou Oswalt 4-1 2.48
JL^ 1055 Min (26) 45 1100 NYM
DC 1068 Bos (-21) 0 1068 NYM
JG 1068 Bos (-21) -4 1064 ChC
SC 870 Bos (-21) 6 876 NYM
LZ 850 Bos (-21) 5 855 Bos
....Extends 1st place lead by one point
PL.....Feeling the hot breath of his former(?) MWA
DB....Appears to still be in form despite lasy year's partial layoff
CC....Still in the thick of things and leads chick race
GG....Boston's Beautiful Bum Bad Boy Beckett Bombed By Broussard
JL.....Hard to root for Santana when PL has him in Yahoo?
DC....After 2 days of soloing, follows the masses and bombs
JG....Knows when to use "who" and when to use "whom"
SC....He has an excuse - He's a Red Sox fan.
LZ....She has an excuse, too - She didn't play
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 11:13 AM
Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.
Does yesterday constitute one of the aforementioned lousy pitching days that may determine the outcome of the game?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 11:22 AM
I think yesterday could be one of they key days of the whole season, yeah.
As I said, I don't ever recall a day when we all picked one staff or another and the difference in points was so great.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 01:10 PM
Great, I'm a victim again today of the Curse of Pork.
Slip sliding away............
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 02:30 PM
From The Department Of Typographical ErrorsHere's one:
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]DB....Appears to still be in form despite lasy year's partial layoff
[/b]
Hmmmm....
What
should it have been?
A "t" instead of the "y"? Or should it have been a "z" instead of the "s". If you look at your keyboard....
(Well, sorry....I thought that was funny
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 04:46 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I plead guilty to not knowing when to use "who" and when to use "whom".
It's actually not that easy sometimes; in fact,
some would like nothing more than to rid the word from our language.
The rule I go by is:
"Who" corresponds with "he" (subject)
"Whom" corresponds with "him" (object)
So a quick word replacement is one way to determine which to use... most of the time.
"He gave the book to him?"
"Who gave the book to him?"
"He gave the book to whom?"
I'm sure I get it wrong sometimes, though. That link has some complex examples I'd've gotten wrong.
And some people think it's pretentious - the same people who cannot use "we"/"us" and "I"/"me" properly...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 05:22 PM
Seems it was all-or-nothing yesterday...
Yesterday's Pitching Staffs (ESPN-wide)PS PTS %OWN
MIN 26 4.4 Third-most popular pick
NYY 25 3.6
COL 24 0.4
STL 23 8.5 Most popular pick; none of us had Ponson
CLE 20 1.3
TAM 19 0.2
BAL 9 1.5
WAS 4 0.6
TOR 0 2.0
PHI - 4 1.7
KAN - 8 0.2
BOS -21 7.3 Second-most popular pick
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Great, I'm a victim again today of the Curse of Pork.
Sorry about that...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 05:44 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
STL 23 8.5 Most popular pick; none of us had Ponson
[/CODE]
And we should be penalized for this?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 07:03 PM
IS ANYONE ELSE GETTING A FREAKIN'
BLANK PAGE NOW?? I just spent like an hour setting my lineup and now it's freakin' BLANK (in both IE & Firefox), and I don't know if my lineup stuck or not.
Good ol' FUCKING ESPN!!!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 07:07 PM
I'm getting that now, and it keeps giving me a message if I want to debug. I set my roster earlier, so hopefully it stuck.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/28/06 07:08 PM
Okay, it's back. Thank God my lineup took!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/29/06 12:35 PM
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables & Standings TM 1211 NYM (27) 55 1266 StL Carpenter 3-2 1.91
DB^ 1182 NYM (27) 53 1235 CWS Contreras 3-1 1.55
PL 1193 StL (-7) 23 1216 NYY Johnson 3-2 3.73
CC 1152 ChC (28) 64 1216 StL
GG 1139 Hou (-1) 45 1184 StL
JL 1100 NYM (27) 56 1156 NYM Glavine 3-2 2.78
DC 1068 NYM (27) 63 1131 NYM
JG 1064 ChC (28) 55 1119 StL
SC 876 NYM (27) 56 932 StL
LZ 855 Bos (06) 31 886 Bos DiNardo 1-1 10.13
(To the tune of "Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow")
Oh, the weather is really gloomy
In the town they call St. Looey
Taking Carpenter could be a pain
Le it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/29/06 06:22 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
(To the tune of "Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow")
Oh, the weather is really gloomy
In the town they call St. Looey
Taking Carpenter could be a pain
Le it rain, let it rain, let it rain
Doesn't look good.
...but neither does Plaw's Johnson. :p
P.S. Jeez, Plaw... Carlos Guillen... 2 HRs (17 pts) in 4 innings...
Bastid.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/29/06 06:44 PM
and I almost kept him. decided to go with Adam Everett in the last minute before leaving home.
if it wasn't for Johnny Judas Damon (
also 2 HR in 4 innings
) it wouldn't be
that bad for me. anyway, I knew my team would suck today. it was thee most difficult day to set up a team for me, with a lot of good pitchers in a lot of pitcher's parks.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/29/06 06:46 PM
They've started playing in St Louis - hopefully they'll get the whole thing in...
...unless it's a sucky outing!
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/29/06 07:28 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
...unless it's a sucky outing!
Thats no way for a radio personality to speak.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/29/06 07:35 PM
I guess you don't listen to much radio then
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 12:32 AM
Has there ever been a day when there 3 teams winning by the score of 16, 17 and 18 respectively?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Has there ever been a day when there 3 teams winning by the score of 16, 17 and 18 respectively? My poor friend got stuck on the losing end of one of these games.
He had Maddux yesterday, but he forgot to change his lineup - Cubs pitching was -43.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 01:26 AM
if the A's at Royals game get rained out, do I still get Reggie Sanders' points??
or will everybody have another chance to go against Loaiza?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 09:54 AM
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's Probables & Standings TM 1266 StL (21) 41 1307 Bos Schilling 5-0 2.60
DB 1235 CWS (26) 51 1286 Bos
PL 1216 NYY (09) 45 1261 Bos
CC 1216 StL (21) 44 1260 Bos
GG 1184 StL (21) 46 1230 Hou Buchholz 1-1 1.23
JL 1156 NYM (29) 56 1212 SaF Cain (??) 1-3 5.48
DC 1131 NYM (29) 65 1196 NYY Mussina 3-2 2.45
JG 1119 StL (21) 43 1162 Bos
SC 932 StL (21) 48 980 Bos
LZ 886 Bos (13) 52 938 Bos
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
if the A's at Royals game get rained out, do I still get Reggie Sanders' points??
It was rained out, so you don't get his points.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 02:52 PM
like you really mean the "
"
fuckin' rain...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
like you really mean the " "Ouch!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 04/30/06 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
[b] like you really mean the " "Ouch!
[/b][/quote]Yeah, really.
Here I am....trying to be supportive of TM, a guy who I
always said was a lot better player than he appeared to be because his scores were disguised and obscured by all his missed days, and I get accused of what?
(What was I accused of here?) Insincerity?
Geeeze......Who's more sincere than me?
:rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/01/06 12:07 PM
Sunday's Scores & Monday's Probables & Standings TM 1307 Bos (13) 55 1362 SaD Peavy 1-4 5.17
DB 1286 Bos (13) 36 1322 Fla Willis 1-4 3.13
CC^ 1260 Bos (13) 47 1307 Bal Bedard 4-1 3.69
PL 1261 Bos (13) 37 1298 Det Bonderman 3-2 5.04
GG 1230 Hou (23) 51 1281 Hou Rodriguez 5-0 2.53
DC^ 1196 NYY (28) 61 1257 Hou
JL 1212 SaF (-1) 25 1237 Fla
JG 1162 Bos (13) 46 1208 LAD Penny 2-3 2.32
SC 980 Bos (13) 44 1024 Hou
LZ 938 Bos (13) 36 974 Bos Wakefield 1-4 3.90
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/01/06 12:43 PM
From The Department Of Useless Statistics Previous Totals
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
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PL 15-8 3.97 339 731 356 .487 703 1042
TM 16-7 3.65 367 676 328 .485 663 1030
DB 15-8 4.15 304 732 361 .493 713 1017
GG 14-10 4.17 286 700 367 .524 727 1013
CC 14-10 3.66 349 710 320 .451 660 1009
JG 12-12 4.19 286 713 353 .495 687 973
DC 18-5 3.51 394 638 270 .423 546 940
JL 12-11 4.08 322 715 308 .431 608 930
SC 12-7 3.70 302 568 246 .433 493 795
LZ 12-7 4.55 213 548 263 .480 535 748
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
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TM 5-2 2.90 149 211 84 .398 183 332
DC 4-3 4.20 85 210 121 .576 232 317
JL 4-3 2.90 134 238 90 .378 173 307
DB 5-2 3.34 132 208 87 .418 173 305
CC 4-3 4.28 103 196 102 .520 195 298
GG 5-2 4.87 68 224 86 .384 200 268
PL 4-3 5.02 82 216 80 .370 174 256
JG 3-4 5.64 53 202 82 .406 182 235
SC 3-4 5.55 57 204 84 .412 172 229
LZ 3-4 5.68 57 20 79 .395 169 226 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
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TM 21- 9 3.48 516 887 412 .464 846 1362
DB 20-10 3.96 436 940 448 .477 886 1322
CC 18-13 3.79 452 906 422 .466 855 1307
PL 19-11 4.21 421 947 436 .460 877 1298
GG 19-12 4.32 354 924 453 .490 927 1281
DC 22- 8 3.66 479 848 391 .461 778 1257
JL 16-14 3.82 456 953 398 .418 781 1237
JG 15-16 4.49 339 915 435 .475 869 1208
SC 15-11 4.18 359 772 330 .427 665 1024
LZ 15-11 4.87 270 748 342 .457 704 974
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/01/06 08:34 PM
Without question, the big Fantasy Baseball story this year has been the inconsistency of the starting pitching, not only in this game but in the Yahoo game as well.
Here's a commparison for the four of us who played last year - PL, JL, JG, and SC, and TM who started late and DM who isn't playing this year - at more or less of the same point last season:
(Note: I'm not counting LZ because she really hasn't played more than 3 or 4 days or so.)
Last Year This Year
W-L E.R.A. Pts. FPPG W-L E.R.A. Pts. FPPG
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PL 18-12 3.41 559 18.6 19-11 4.21 421 14.0
JL 23- 7 3.09 608 20.3 16-14 3.82 456 15.2
JG 21-10 2.95 573 18.5 15-16 4.49 339 10.9
SC 20- 9 3.29 551 19.0 15-11 4.18 359 13.8
TM 2- 2 3.50 52 13.0 21- 9 3.48 516 17.2
DM 19-10 3.49 528 18.2
DC 22- 8 3.66 479 16.0
CC 18-13 3.79 452 14.6
DB 20-10 3.96 436 14.5
GG 19-12 4.32 354 11.4Everyone who played both years is doing considerably worse this year (except for TM whose sample size is way too small), and the only players who are doing as well this season as we kinda did last season are maybe DC and CC.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/01/06 09:53 PM
Do I not have stats from last year because I joined late? Or is it because you don't like me?
Anyway, good point on pitching. At least it makes for a nice excuse for me to give.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/01/06 10:52 PM
I should say it was a divine interference that told me to "fix" my roster. I almost left it over the cap. now it's just a little bizarre.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 01:12 AM
I thought I'd never utter these words, but if it wasn't for Ramon Hernandez I'd be looking mighty putrid.
With that said I still look God aweful.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 09:26 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Do I not have stats from last year because I joined late? Or is it because you don't like me?
I wanted the comparable period from last year, and you hadn't joined yet at this point.
Using and comparing your first 30 or 31 games which came much later in the season would have been inaccurate, since you had a much greater body of work by each pitcher to go by and consider in making your selections.
The fact that I don't like you has nothing to do with it. :p
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DON'T LIKE YOU???? How can you even
suggest such an idea?
You are my protege.....You will take over for me some day.....I'm trying to teach you everything about Fantasy Baseball that I know.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 09:36 AM
Monday's Scores & Tuesday's Probables & Standings TM 1362 SaD (14) 29 1391 Min Santana 2-3 4.45
DB 1322 Fla (00) 18 1340 Min
PL^ 1298 Det (26) 36 1334 Min
CC 1307 Bal (-17) 15 1322 Min
GG 1281 Hou (06) 19 1300 Det Maroth 3-1 1.85
DC 1257 Hou (06) 26 1283 CWS Buehrle 4-1 2.57
JL 1237 Fla (00) 22 1259 Pit Duke 1-4 4.50
JG 1208 LAD (05) 23 1231 Det
SC 1024 Hou (06) 46 1070 CWS
LZ 974 Bos (19) 26 1000 Bos
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 10:13 AM
I got in touch with my contacts in Vegas and got an update on the odds of winning this thing.
Here are the latest odds, along with the opening line:
Opening Latest
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PL 1334 3-1 3-1 Holding steady as top pick
DB 1340 9-2 7-2 Now the second choice
GG 1300 10-1 4-1 Has proven her skill
JL 1259 7-2 9-2 132 point deficit hard to make up
JG 1231 4-1 5-1 160 point deficit harder to make up
CC 1322 15-1 6-1 Fading after strong start
TM 1391 20-1 7-1 Still must prove he won't miss days
DC 1283 99-1 50-1 Caught on, but will he stay the course?
SC 1070 ---- 150-1 Late start makes win almost impossible
LZ 974 99-1 300-1 May not stay, and not playing anyway
TM is probably a great bet at 7-1,
if you believe he won't miss any days....he already has enough of a cushion to miss at least one day, anyway.....
JL and JG might be worth a wager if you think they can come back.....
PL and DB probably not worth the short odds when you consider how close the people behind them are.....
And, finally, you can't go wrong putting a coupla bucks on SC at 150-1.....you never know, he might hit a massive hot streak.....
Want better odds than 4-1 on GG and 6-1 0n CC foreither to be worth a bet.....
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 10:20 AM
I have an excuse for playing like shit this season. I'm making a lot of picks based on my 'draft team', so I'm not playing against myself everyday.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 10:56 AM
That's silly, I think. I treat the two games separately. Let the chips fall where they may
What are you saying, that you didn't want to pick Buehrle or Santana today because people have them in the Yahoo game, so you picked Duke?
And I'm a little confused here. If you're making your picks based on the Yahoo game, and you're doing well in that, you should be doing well in this game too.
At least if one of them does well today, it's not a total loss for you if you picked one of them instead od Duke, but if Duke bombs, you're screwed in both games.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 12:50 PM
Or he could be saying that he has a bunch of players in the Yahoo game batting against Santana and he'd be in a no-win (or no-lose, if you're an optimist
)situation.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 01:17 PM
Plaw, I bet myself on the opening 99 - 1 line. Now I want to hedge my original line bet on a game by game basis. Can you put me in touch with your Vegas connection?
Don Cardi
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 03:04 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
"TM is probably a great bet at 7-1, if you believe he won't miss any days....he already has enough of a cushion to miss at least one day, anyway....."
in fact, even I don't believe myself :p 2nd and 3rd of June, for instance, I'll be out and I still don't know what I'm gonna do about it.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Plaw, I bet myself on the opening 99 - 1 line. Now I want to hedge my original line bet on a game by game basis. Can you put me in touch with your Vegas connection? Game by game is so chancey, and there's so much luck involved, that with our ten-player league if you want to bet on an individual day
before the pitching choices are posted the odds usually range from only about 8-1 to maybe 12-1.
If you wait until
after the pitching choices are posted, then you can get a little bit better price.
Like the other day when JL took the Giants' Cain, he was probably about 15 or 18-1 to win the day against pitchers like Schilling and Mussina, or the day you had Chacin against Willis, Peavy, and Schilling.
Anyway, unless you're
really confident with one of those "unpredictable" picks (like Chacin), there's probably too much luck involved and the odds too short for it to pay to bet on a day-by-day basis.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 03:40 PM
Of course (cough) if you're looking for a little, um, "monetary" action on the side, I know of someone in the league who might be interested in accomodating you.
He's been known to offer odds, too, or perhaps even a spot....
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 03:55 PM
Even though technically she didn't "play" yesterday - her team was a leftover from a few days ago - I believe that LZ set a record for futility yesterday.
Two runs scored and four walks, but only one measly single - one "total base" - in 30 ABs.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 05:01 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Of course (cough) if you're looking for a little, um, "monetary" action on the side, I know of someone in the league who might be interested in accomodating you.
He's been known to offer odds, too, or perhaps even a spot.... No odds. I want a money line.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 05:45 PM
How about something like so much per point, and you get, say, 3-2 odds?
Like if you win you get maybe 30 cents a point, but if your opponent ( :rolleyes: ) wins he gets only 20 cents a point?
Or do you mean a straight side bet, regardless of the points differential - whoever has more points at the end is the winner - and you get, say 3-2 money odds or something?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 06:49 PM
Hey Gina - Your PM box is full... wanted to ask when your trip was...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 07:30 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
That's silly, I think. I treat the two games separately. Let the chips fall where they may
It's just weird rooting for 1 person in one game, and against them in the other. I'm not picking exactly the same team as my Yahoo team, but it has affected my pitching and 'superstar' choices.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 08:14 PM
I hear 'ya, but with pitchers at least it's kinda like hedging your bet.
If you had taken Santana today, if he does well it hurts you in the Yahoo game because I have him, but at least you derive some benefit from him because you have him in the Salary Cap game.
And if Duke does poorly today, at least you don't get hammered in both games.
Of course if he does well - as it looks like he is - you get double the benefits.
I dunno - weird or not - I still say it's two separate games and I want to make my choices based on whatever I think is best for each game separately.
And let me throw this wrinkle into the discussion:
If we were playing for money, would that change your thinking?
You know how I feel about that - play the same way regardless.
Not counting LZ (who isn't really "playing" either game), there are 6 of us playing both games.
Anyone else with a comment?
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 08:21 PM
Duke is pitching a shutout in the 8th inning.
....If I were playing for money, my picks would be different.
Right now, my picks lean on what won't hurt my Yahoo team too much.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 08:44 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
How about something like so much per point, and you get, say, 3-2 odds?
Like if you win you get maybe 30 cents a point, but if your opponent ( :rolleyes: ) wins he gets only 20 cents a point?
Or do you mean a straight side bet, regardless of the points differential - whoever has more points at the end is the winner - and you get, say 3-2 money odds or something?
Sounds good!
But I was only joking around Plaw. The hedge that I was talking about is the bet placed to hedge the other one where that you've already locked in.
Last July, when I was in Vegas I put 100 "points" down on the NFL GIANTS to win the SuperBowl getting 60 - 1. Once they made it to the playoffs I hedged that bet by taking the other team that they were playing and would have considered doing so every week until they went into the SuperBowl. So basically I locked in some "points" by hedging that SB bet because as you know they got knocked out and although my SB bet became null and void, I made some "points" back the other way.
That's the kind of hedge I was talking about in my other post.
Ask Don T how I "scored points" during the football season playoffs by Hedging straight bets made in the early games with under and over bets/teasers in the later ones.
Anyway we are already a month into the season. If you would have proposed some kind of "friendly" wager before the season started, well then maybe I would have considered it. Keep it in mind for when Hockey and Football season rolls around.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 09:44 PM
I dunno, DC....
I do my gambling for money...dollars....cash....coin of the realm....that stuff I can spend to buy things....
I don't understand this business with "points".
What are you doing? Hiding from the I.R.S. by calling money "points".
Originally posted by Just Lou:
....If I were playing for money, my picks would be different.
Right now, my picks lean on what won't hurt my Yahoo team too much.
I don't get it.
Why would it make a difference if you were playing for money?
It seems to me that if I am the best player in both games - or if
anyone is for that matter, not necessarily me, - then all things being equal (I'm speaking here of the "lucky breaks" evening out), that person should
win both games, regardless of whether or not their picks in one game are counter to their picks in the other.
Just make what you think are the right moves in both games, and if you're the best player why wouldn't you
win both games?
Interesting argument. I'm curious to know what DB thinks here.
DB?
And, just curious here....What made you place the Yahoo game at a higher level of importance than the Salary Cap game?
From all that you've said, it appears as though you'd prefer to win that one.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 10:04 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Hey Gina - Your PM box is full... wanted to ask when your trip was... Geoff, it's clear, now - sorry about that.
The trip is the 4th through the 9th - Thursday through Tuesday.
This whole thing might be a false alarm if I don't get the chance to set lineups in advance.
I'm working on it...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 10:39 PM
You know, this situation is a bit similar to fantasy football.
If you have LaDanian Tomlinson and the Denver Defense but in a particular week, San Diego is playing Denver, most people believe that you play LDT or Denver, but not both. I tend to agree with this line of reasoning but in some cases, I may go against it.
What does this all have to do with baseball?
I may be wrong here but it appears JL is placing more importance to the Yahoo game and is making his picks in the salary cap game that won't hurt his Yahoo team. If he has a bunch of Yahoo players hitting against Schilling, he won't pick Schilling or conversely, he loves his pitchers on his Yahoo team and will pick them in the Salary Cap game to "double" up. It's almost psychological.
People can play any strategy they want and JL's is one strategy in dealing with both games. My particular strategy is to look at my pitchers in the Yahoo game and NOT pick them in the salary cap game.
In any case, game theory dictates that players make choices to maximize their "returns", however they define it. Looking at it this way, if JL feels that winning the Yahoo game is more important, then his choices in the salary cap game make sense.
PL is obviously looking at things differently. He wants to win both games (equally?) and is making choices in both games independently.
I tend to agree more with PL that the games (and the choices I make) are mostly independent.
Sorry for the economics lecture!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
it appears JL is placing more importance to the Yahoo game and is making his picks in the salary cap game that won't hurt his Yahoo team.
That's what I said
Originally posted by plawrence:
And, just curious here....What made you place the Yahoo game at a higher level of importance than the Salary Cap game?
From all that you've said, it appears as though you'd prefer to win that one.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
People can play any strategy they want and JL's is one strategy in dealing with both games. My particular strategy is to look at my pitchers in the Yahoo game and NOT pick them in the salary cap game.
I can say that one game has absolutely no effect in the other for me.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/02/06 11:21 PM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 12:12 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
You are my protege.....You will take over for me some day.....I'm trying to teach you everything about Fantasy Baseball that I know.
You think too much of me. Even if I did take over, I'd never live up to your standards. This is, of course, if I'm still allowed to play fantasy again. I'm actually having to consider whether studying for an exam is more important than the Astros and BBC.
Oh, in regards to that post of yours...in the words of TM, "like you really mean the '
' " :p
Cardi, I'd love to contribute, but I just can't quite understand why you're referring to points as a "term"...? Ain't no term. Points are points.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 12:39 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by plawrence:
[qb]Cardi, I'd love to contribute, but I just can't quite understand why you're referring to points as a "term"...? Ain't no term. Points are points. That's my girl!
Don Cardi
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 01:11 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
...in the words of TM, "like you really mean the ' ' " :p
That's gonna be a classic around here, I can tell.
Look what you did, TM. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 10:13 AM
Great day for CC yesterday with one of the highest single-game day scores of the season, moving her back into second place.
Also, with the surprise NY-Bost rainout and the "resting" ( :rolleyes: ) of Pujols and Edmonds (can someone please explain to me why a healthy 26-year old athlete at his peak - and one of the hottest hitters in baseball, besides - who makes I dunno how many millions of dollars a year - needs a day off and can't play a day game after a night game?), possibly a record number of DNPs yesterday -
twenty .
Everyone on the Pedro bandwagon today, except for our non-playing player, LZ.
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables & Standings TM 1391 Min (34) 44 1435 Mets Martinez 5-0 2.94
CC^ 1322 Min (34) 78 1400 Mets
DB 1340 Min (34) 50 1390 Mets
PL 1334 Min (34) 45 1379 Mets
GG 1300 Det (27) 57 1357 Mets
JL^ 1259 Pit (28) 62 1321 Mets
DC 1283 CWS (-6) 18 1301 Mets
JG 1231 Det (27) 54 1285 Mets
SC 1070 CWS (-6) 29 1099 Mets
LZ 1000 Bos (00) 20 1020 Bost Beckett 3-2 4.50
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 01:36 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
That's what I said
I was agreeing with you.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 01:50 PM
Yeah, I know....In any case, I'm wondering why JL regards the Yahoo game with more importance.
I guess maybe I should be flattered
I sorta figured that I would enjoy the Yahoo game more and would prefer to win that one as opposed to the Sal Cap game, but the BB in general seems to regard the Sal Cap game with more importance (more players - especially with the 3 "non-players" in the Yahoo game, leaving 6 active particpants, vs. 9 active participants in the Sal Cap game - more posts since the games started, the Yahoo game seems, I dunno, more "specialized"), so I think I would actually prefer to win that one if I could only win one and had a choice.
Plus, this is the first time for the Yahoo game, and I guess I really
do want to prove that "last year was a fluke."
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 04:33 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Everyone on the Pedro bandwagon today
Damn... I knew I should've gone w/ Maddux... (well, we'll see I guess
)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/03/06 05:05 PM
Maddux on the road.....Pedro vs. one of the worst teams in baseball so far.....
Wouldn't it be something, though, if after three mediocre seasons, Maduux (at age 40) went and put together a season or two that resembled his peak years of the early and mid-nineties?
From 1992 thru 1998, 7 seasons, Maddux was 127-53 (.706), an average season of 18-8, with an E.R.A. of around 2.20 or so.
From 1992 thru 2002, an amazing 11 year run, he was 198-88 (.692), still an average season of 18-8, with an E.R.A. of around 2.45 or so.
This year he's off to a 5-0 start with a 1.35 E.R.A..
I don't think anyone expects him to go 30-0 with an E.R.A. under 1.50, but how about a 20-5 with a 2.25 or something, which would be similar to his 1997 season (19-4, 2.20)?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/04/06 09:48 AM
Pedro and a Mets win in extra innings helps everyone to a 37 in pitching yesterday, which is great except when everyone gets the same score. :rolleyes:
At least JG is happy he didn't go with Maddux.
And another miserable day on offense for nearly everyone, too, with only DB (36) cracking 30.
It's usually been one thing or another.
In general, as a group and individually, we've rarely been able to put offense and pitching together on the same day.
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables & Standings TM 1435 Mets (37) 58 1493 CWS Contreras 4-1 1.45
DB^ 1390 Mets (37) 73 1463 CWS
CC 1400 Mets (37) 50 1450 StL Carpenter 4-2 1.80
PL 1379 Mets (37) 61 1440 StL
GG 1357 Mets (37) 62 1419 CWS
JL 1321 Mets (37) 47 1368 NYM Glavine 4-2 2.29
DC 1301 Mets (37) 56 1357 NYM
JG 1285 Mets (37) 47 1332 NYM
SC 1099 Mets (37) 52 1151 NYY Johnson 4-2 4.71
LZ 1020 Bost (-10) 5 1025 Bos Clement 3-2 6.14
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/04/06 12:49 PM
Here's the
Leaderboard Pitching Staff Breakdown for today, as posted by someone on the ESPN Message Board (so I don't vouch for its accuracy).
White Sox 19
Mets 16
Yanks 6
Tigers 2
Nationals 2
Dodgers 1
D'backs 1
Brewers 1
Twins 1
Now while I certainly don't expect anyone in our league to divulge any of their pitching staff picking strategies, I'm mystified as to why
no one on the Leaderboard and only CC (besides myself) in our group took St. Louis and Carpenter.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/04/06 03:51 PM
That's interesting about Carp. I picked Glavine cuz he's pitching against a poorer team at home... or maybe it's cuz I have Carp on my draft team and didn't wanna jinx him!
Let's see what Vegas has to say...
Leaderboard PS Breakdown w/ Betting Lines:
White Sox 19 -165
Mets 16 -200 2nd Daily Favorite
Yanks 6 -225 Daily Favorite
Tigers 2 -145
Nationals 2 -165
Dodgers 1 -140
D'backs 1 -110
Brewers 1 -140
Twins 1 -140
Cardinals -115
Worst Matches -105 Philly, Cinci, OakNo faith in Carp in this matchup I guess... My "source" actually estimates it to be closer to
+106! ...and only -141 for Da Mutts.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/04/06 04:59 PM
What's the matter Gina, Willy's not a winner anymore?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/04/06 08:25 PM
My sportsbook has St. Louis -130, and the Mets -200.
For those of you iin the dark about how sports betting works, this means that if you want to bet on the Cards you have to put up $1.30 for every $1.00 you hope to win, and if you want to bet on the Mets, you have to risk $2.00 to win $1.00
The Mets are playing Pittsburgh, who are +180.
Since the Pirates are the underdog, this means you only have to risk $1.00 to win $1.80
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/05/06 12:29 PM
I focking
knew there was something wrong with St. Louis and Carpenter yesterday after no one picked them, but I'll be damned, because I
still can't figure out what.
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables & Standings TM 1493 CWS (26) 51 1544 Bos Schilling 5-1 2.88
DB 1463 CWS (26) 56 1519 Ari Webb 4-2 2.22
CC 1450 StL (11) 32 1482 Bos
GG^ 1419 CWS (26) 62 1481 Hou Buchholz 3-0 1.71
PL 1440 StL (11) 33 1473 Bos
JL 1368 NYM (40) 76 1444 Bos
DC 1357 NYM (40) 80 1437 Tor Chacin 4-1 4.70
JG 1332 NYM (40) 76 1408 Det Rogers 4-2 2.59
SC 1151 NYY (10) 44 1195 Bos
LZ 1025 Bos (13) 38 1063 Bos
Fueled by the Mets 40, it was a great day yesterday for DC, JL, and JG.
But some potential bites in the ass today, with DC
again going with the dubious Chacin, and GG taking Buchholz
at Colorado....
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/05/06 12:59 PM
Shitty scorelast night. Can't decide if it's a Kobe Bryant big turd or small turd.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/05/06 01:57 PM
Oh boy... Lone wolf...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/05/06 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Oh boy... Lone wolf... I'm gonna get you my pretty.
Oh wait, that's from Wizard of Oz, not Little Red Riding hood.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 10:49 AM
Considering that among the nine of us we used five different pitching staffs yesterday, and the PS scores ranged from 6 to 26, yesterday's scores were in an unusually narrow range, going from 42 to 57.
"Lone Wolf"
DB winds up with he high PS score for the day (26). That's the way you win this game, silly -- no worrying next time :rolleyes: :p .
Meanwhile, slumps by
PL and
CC continue,
DC escapes with Chacin again, "Houston Homer"
GG gets badly burned by Baby Buchholz (Hey, that's what you get for going with a pitcher at Coors, silly),
JL continues to quietly climb, "Lone Wolf"
JG continues to tread water, and everyone waits for
TM to miss a few days already.
SC gamely tries to make up for his three-day late start (at least he
plays every day), while
LZ still has everyone wondering why she even bothered in the first place.
:p
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables & Standings TM 1544 Bos (19) 53 1597 Det Bonderman 4-2 3.99
DB 1519 Ari (26) 52 1571 CWS Vazquez 3-2 3.00
CC 1482 Bos (19) 43 1525 Cin Arroyo 5-1 2.06
GG 1481 Hou (06) 42 1523 Hou Rodriguez 5-1 2.61
PL 1473 Bos (19) 50 1523 CWS
JL 1444 Bos (19) 52 1496 Oak Zito 2-4 4.63
DC 1437 Tor (19) 57 1494 Cin
JG 1408 Det (06) 44 1452 CWS
SC 1195 Bos (19) 49 1244 Cin
LZ 1063 Bos (19) 44 1107 Bos Wakefield 2-4 3.89
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 12:18 PM
Originally posted by plawrence On April 25th:
[b]DC's Chacin pick today is at least questionable.... [/b]
Final Result : Chacin sores 21 points.
Originally posted by plawrence on May 4th:
I'm mystified as to why no one on the Leaderboard and only CC (besides myself) in our group took St. Louis and Carpenter. Final Result : Carpenter 11 points, Glavine 40 points.
Originally posted by plawrence on May 5th:
But some potential bites in the ass today, with DC again going with the dubious Chacin, Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]DC escapes with Chacin again, [/b]
Final Result : Chacin scores 19 points.
Maybe we should start calling you "Paul
Lupica from now on. Or would you prefer
Plaw The Greek? :p
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 12:57 PM
Well, I
said I was mystified why no one took Carpenter that day.
Still am, too.
As far as yesterday's Cacin pick goes, you did OK because Toronto scored the same 19 as Boston with Schilling did and you saved a few cap points with Toronto, but the pick itself was nothing to be particularly proud of.
There were 7 pitching staffs that did better than Toronto did yesterday, and 3 that did as well, and of the 10 there were 6 (KC, TB, Colo, Ariz, Wash, and SD) that were less expensive than Toronto.
DB is the guy who deserves the credit for making a great PS pick yesterday.
Anyway, here's something else that I don't understand:
How come I'm the only one in this game that's interested in putting their money up to back thier judgement?
Call me whatever you want to (altho, quite honestly, I don't understand the Mike Lupica reference), but since I'm the only one here willing to play for money, I think I have the right to assume that I'm the best "real life" handicapper.
Why? Because as a "real life" gambler yourself, DC, I'm sure you'll agree with me that it's one thing to pick Chacin for free, but if you were playing this game for real money you might not be so quick to take him.
I know that's the case because I play this game exactly the way I would if it were for money - no reason not to since, as you know, I take these games quite seriously - but I can give you another example which makes my point.
I think I've mentioned that every year for the past 20+ or so I've been in a "Pick Every Game Each Week" Football Pool with about 100 other people - $10 a week, $2500 first prize, $2000 second prize, etc.
My usual strategy in that game is to pick a ton of underdogs (since most people who aren't very knowledgable tend to pick favorites and, as you know, any pool for $10 a week with 100 people in it is gonna have a lot of players who are
not very knowledgable) and hope, at least to some degree, to get lucky.
It's a strategy that's served me well over the years, since I won the whole thing twice, finished second once, and last once (for which you also get a few hundred bucks), not to mention several other "in the money" finishes which I've lost track of.
BUT - and it's a big "BUT" - in the years that I've also been betting the games individually I tend to be a lot more careful nad conservative with my picks.
Not that I necessarily pick more favorites or anything, just that I pay closer attention to what's going on and, since I don't have to bet on
every game, generally wind up with a higher winning percentage on the 6 or 7 games that I
do actually risk maybe $50 or $100 on than I do on my overall winning percentage for all 16 games (altho that has
not been the case in the years I won or finished second because for the most part I got lucky).
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Final Result : Chacin scores 19 points
Oh, and just for the record, BTW....
It
wasn't Chacin who scored 19 points, it was the Toronto pitching staff.
Chacin pitched 5.1 innings, and even giving him credit for the 5 points for the win, he himself scored only 11 points.
OK, but nothing spectacular.
The Toronto bullpen picked up the other 8 points in 3.2 IPs - a better rate of production even
without the 5 extra points for the win.
And I'm still waiting for the first person ever to state that they consider a team's bullpen and not just the starting pitcher that day when making their PS selection.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 02:57 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
"Lone Wolf" [b]DB winds up with he high PS score for the day (26). That's the way you win this game, silly -- no worrying next time :rolleyes: :p .[/b]
No, I know that's how you win the game. It doesn't stop me from worrying though.
You admitted it yourself when you were a partial lone wolf and were nervous about Carp.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 03:44 PM
Geez, you make a joke here and then have to suffer the wrath of a mile long ranting post that keeps reminding us of how serious he takes his fantasy sports games! :p
The only game that I take that seriously is our fantasy golf league.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 03:52 PM
Rats.....
Another one who I can't try and take money from.
Even when I offer a spot, or odds, or even both....
I guess my past performances in these games speak for themselves.
I know, I know, DC....you're playing just for "the fun of it".
I understand perfectly - FS taught me all that stuff in years past ( :p
) - but I
still say I'd like to see you take Chacin instead of Schilling if there is money on the line.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 04:25 PM
LOL! We'll talk about money come football and Hockey season. I very rarely bet on Baseball.
As for FS teaching you all that stuff in the past, well Apple has also taught me a thing or two about dealing with you
And yes, you are correct, had I been placing a real wager, I probably would have put my money on a much better pitcher than Chacin. But this is not for money, it's for fun. And being that I figured everyone else and their uncle would pick the best pitcher out there, I decided, based on where I was in the standings, that I would take a shot with another pitcher that everyone else was less likely to pick, in hopes that I would pick up some ground.
Sort of like the strategy that you just said you use in your football pool.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 05:50 PM
Well, let’s take these points one by one, shall we?
The first time you took Chacin, I said
DC’s Chacin pick today is at least questionable
And then I said
Chacin wasn't a bad pick, it was just -as I said - "questionable", given the pitchers who were going yesterday who are clearly much better than he is.
To which you replied
Your opinion, that's all.
Then I said
the fact is, it was a questionable pick, unless you knew something that probably 99% of the people playing this game didn't know.
To which you replied
Could be!
Then I said
There's always the possibility that your Chacin pick was the result of what in these games we call "going unpredicatable", a situation in which someone is so far behind that they feel the only way to make up ground is by making picks that they [i]know no one else will be making (like Chacin), and hoping that they get lucky and have a good day (which Chacin did), while everyone else's "better" picks have a bad day (like Schilling, Peavy, and Willis did). [/i]
To which you replied
Possibly! But then again we still haven't even gotten out of April yet
Now….
What I gather from that exchange – particularly your last comment – “we still haven't even gotten out of April yet” - is that the first time you picked Chacin you were not attempting to be unpredictable, as it was too early (“we still haven’t even gotten out of April yet”) for such a strategy to be necessary.
Yet here we are, in Chacin’s very next start, with you now saying that
this is not for money, it's for fun. And being that I figured everyone else and their uncle would pick the best pitcher out there, I decided, based on where I was in the standings, that I would take a shot with another pitcher that everyone else was less likely to pick, in hopes that I would pick up some ground.
Sort of like the strategy that you just said you use in your football pool.[i]
So your strategy changed in one week, now that we’re out of April?
Now, as far as the money vs. fun thing is concerned:
This is basically the same discussion that we had during the hockey season, and I still fail to understand why anyone would play the game any differently for “fun” than for money.
If you sit down with your kids to play Monopoly, do you play the game any differently because you are playing for “fun”?
Don’t you employ the same strategies that you would if you were playing someone else for money?
Don’t you play to win, whether you’re playing for money or not?
Isn’t it the same with [i]any game you might play?
I mean, it seems to me that the strategies for winning a game are dictated by the game itself and not by whether you are playing the game for fun or for money.
The strategy I employ in my football pool is different than the strategy I employ in trying to pick individual winners ia different because the game itelf is different.
In one case, all I have to do to win the game is come out with an overall winning percentage of .524 or better at the end of the season.
In the pool, a .524 winning percentage won’t win me a thing at the end of the season because against 100 people I need a winning percentage of somewhere around 60% or better at season’s end to “win” the game.
Different game, different strategies.
But in this game, with only ten people playing, I can’t imagine why your strategy would be any different regardless of if you were playing for money or not.
Unless, as I suggested the first time you picked Chacin, that because you were behind you were going “unpredictable” in an attempt to gain ground.
But you rejected that suggestion, saying it was too early to employ such a strategy, yet a week later you were saying that perhaps you were doing so.
That’s what has me confused.
Now, as far as your suggestion that “Apple has also taught me a thing or two about dealing with you”, I would only say that that’s about as ridiculous an idea as it sounds.
If you are using her help in learning how deal with me, well, you have my sympathies.
When I compare you to FS, it’s different.
I’m only saying that he employed the same arguments as you do.
Finally, please don't be insulted with me kidding you about not wanting to play this game for money against me.
I know exactly why you won't:
For exactly the same reason why I wouldn't bet on hockey against you.
(Excuse any typos here; I didn't proof this little essay)
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 07:26 PM
So your strategy changed in one week, now that we’re out of April?
Maybe it did. Maybe I changed my strategy once the first month of the season went by and I did not move up in the standing that much. But whatever my reasons, they are MY reasons and in no way should I have to be made to feel that I have to explain all of my moves to you when playing a game that is supposed to be played for both enjoyment and fun.
Tell you what, if you were paying me $2 Mil a season to mangage the team, then yes, I would be more than happy to expalin my strategies or reasons for doing things the way that I do to you. But until then, I wish to play this game for what it is, a game to be enjoyed and have some fun with. So until you write me that check, I will continue to do things as I see fit without having to explain myself to you, ok Mr. Steinbrenner? :p
If you sit down with your kids to play Monopoly, do you play the game any differently because you are playing for “fun”?
Absolutely. If I sit down with my kids to play a
game I do so with the intent to enjoy the game and more importantly to enjoy the company and the time that I am spending with my kids. To win is not important to me, to enjoy their company and time and to have
fun is what's important to me.
Don’t you employ the same strategies that you would if you were playing someone else for money?
Of course not. If I am playing with my kids or really anybody who is a friend for that matter, it is not so important for me to prove to anyone that I am the best. So I would not try to beat up on them or comment on every move that they may make. Those kinds of strategies when playing a game for fun, with family and friends, and especially with your children, are not needed because it takes the fun out of playing with them and only serves to either fuel a selfish ego, or to pamper one's own insecurities.
Now of course if I am playing a game for money, my approach, attitude, strategies and moves are going to be more calculative and strategic. But your talking money here, and not talking about spending time with friends and family to do something for the sheer enjoyment of having fun spending time playing something that you all enjoy doing together.
Don’t you play to win, whether you’re playing for money or not?
Of course we all play to win when playing a game. But I also prioritize the time I may spend and the energies that I may use playing that game based on if other things that are going on in my life at the time are more important to me than winning what is just a game. Hey, should I tell my family that we can't go on a cruise for 2 weeks because I need to win at fantasy baseball and may not be able to get on the internet while on a ship, just because I am playing to win in the league?
I don't think so.
Isn’t it the same with any game you might play?
Well for me, no, not really. If my daughter's softball team, which I coach, loses because one of the kids forgot that there was only one out and got doubled off of third and the game ended because of it and we lost, I am not going to sit her down the next game so that we have a better chance of winning. No way. That to me, would be trying to win at the cost of a kid's confidence. So the answer is no, it is not the same with any game that I might play.
Yes, I love to win, like anyone else, but it is not a top priority to me no matter what game I am playing or managing (speaking non monetarily here). It's the fun, the learning experience, and as I said above, the enjoyment of having fun with friends.
Finally, please don't be insulted with me kidding you about not wanting to play this game for money against me. I know exactly why you won't: For exactly the same reason why I wouldn't bet on hockey against you.
Touche on the reasons for not betting.
And I wasn't insulted at all by that.
I decided to play, after your invitation, in these games because I thought that it would be nice, and be fun to play in a game that others here, who I consider friends, are also palying in.
Maybe I decided to play for all the wrong reasons.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/06/06 09:51 PM
Well, OK, maybe the idea of using the concept of playing games with your kids was a bad example.
I guess when mine was younger and we used to play Monopoly or Risk or something I didn't really care if I won or lost and the main thing was having fun.
(No, I didn't get all pissed off when a twelve-year old beat my pants off in chess.
The kid was taking a chess class in school, after all.)
But here, in
these games, in which we are
not playing for money --- Sure, we're supposed to have fun playing ---
(Hell, I absolutely wouldn't play if I wasn't having fun.
That's why although I entered the Golf Game, and the NASCAR Game, and the Bass Fishing Game with the best of intentions, I stopped playing.
I know
almost nothing about golf, and
absolutely nothing about NASCAR or bass fishing, and playing those games simply was
not fun for me.)
--- But what is there to play for here if not the glory of winning?
And I quite honestly can't see for the life of me why anyone would ever play the game any differently just because there was no money at stake.
Let's look at it from the standpoint of the non-gambler.
I don't think JG or DB or CC or SC or DMC would play the game any differently if there was money at stake.
I believe that they all enjoy the game, all would like to win, and all do their best to make the moves that they think are the correct ones that will lead to them winning.
Even the idea of what we call "going unpredictable" is a perfectly legitimate strategy to employ even if we
were playing for money, which is what makes me believe that you are, in fact, playing the ame way as you would if there were money at stake even though you may not realize it.
Here's what I mean; Something I have seen hundreds of times at the poker table, involving two completely different ways of dealing with losing:
One player who is losing will suddenly start to play more loosely than he ordinarily would in the hopes of getting lucky and recouping his losses.
That's roughly akin to being behind in this game and picking a guy like Chacin instead of Schilling.
It's like playing with a pair of fives against a pair of Kings, hoping that your lesser hand will get lucky and beat the superior hand, which occasionally it will.
Meanwhile another player, faced with mounting losses, may start playing even more conservatively than he might ordinarily, hoping to stop the bleeding and begin a recovery.
With respect to the rest of what you said, about "...whatever my reasons, they are MY reasons and in no way should I have to be made to feel that I have to explain all of my moves to you...."
Of course you don't owe me any explanations.
But I was merely bringing up a point about what was seemingly an inconsistency in your strategy.
Hell, we've had discussions like that about strategy in this game among myself and JG and DB (and more recently DMC) for four years already.
Don't you think you got a little bit defensive there and are taking this whole thing rather personally?
I mean, obviously you are not as interested in the game as I am, but if you were you could feel free to ask me anything at all that you wished to about my strategy and I'd be happy to either discuss it all day long, or simply say that I
don't wish to discuss it because it would involve divulging certain stratagems that I follow that I don't want to reveal.
But I would
never make a George Steinbrenner speech like you did. :p
And I'm gonna say this just one more time, to make sure that you understand exactly where I'm coming from with regard to you and FS:
It's all that stuff about playing the game for the right or wrong reasons, and how winning doesn't matter, and just wanting to play for the fun of it, and how all the other things that got mentioned (in his case grass cutting and flower-basket-hangining, and grilling, and a nice cold beer on a hot summer day) that are more important than fantasy sports, that
REMIND me of FS.
Don't get insulted; In no way am I
comparing him to you.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 10:23 AM
When you hear the phrase "Cream Rising",
DB is the man who most usually think of, and this season has been no exception for the usually slow-starting "Man With The Ice Water In His Veins", as he takes over first place sparked by a second place performance this week of 288 points (or 48.0 FPPG), despite yesterday's somewhat lacklustre performance.
Meanwhile,
JL continues
his cream-rising-fitting-on-Kentucky-Derby-Day-Run for the Roses, with his 325 (54.2 FPP) setting the pace for the week, while
TM continues to slump with a 240 (40.0 FPPG), despite a 5-0 2.25 pitching record thru Friday.
Another slumper this week,
CC drops to 6th, trailing everyone except SC and LZ, her 233 good for only 38.8 FPPG.
"Offense, offense, offense" could be
PL's mantra this week. His 270 (45.0 FPPG) is good for for 4th this week, but he leads in pitching points, his total of 156 accounting for an enormously high 57.8% of his total, while his offense has provided only 19.0 FPPG.
Now burned twice in a row at Coors by her beloved 'Stros (6 pitching points on Friday followed by only 4 yesterday),
GG (wherever she is) eagerly looks forward to her return. After rising to a 4th place tie and finding herself only 2 points out of 3rd, the previously prevailing PL protege finds herself back in 5th place after scoring 262 points for the week (43.7 FPPG), good, not so strangely, for 5th place for the week.
JG, the third member of the "Cream Rising Trinity" appears to finally be straightened out, his good-for-second-place 305 this week (50.8 FPPG), while carrying him only to 7th place, finds him a mere 97 points from the top spot and only 55 points out of third.
As a matter of fact, the spread from first to eighth, only 102 points, is closer than it's been since April 26th, when it stood at 99 points. Although
DC finds himself in 8th place, with his 251 for the week - good for 41.8 FPPG - and only 6th place among the 8 top contenders, he's only 5 points out of 7th and a mere 60 points out of 3rd despite yesterday's league-low 14 point total.
So that leaves us the usual two suspects, battling it out for 9th and 10th, respectively.
That is, if you can call what
LZ is doing "battling".
SC, of course, has nothing to be ashamed of though.
If we throw out everyone's score for the first three days of the season when SC hadn't begun playing yet, here's what we get:
DB 1478
TM 1476
PL 1449
JL 1441
DC 1424
GG 1413
CC 1411
JG 1364
**SC** 1265
LZ 1091
Hmmmm....My intention was to make you feel better, SC, not worse.
Didn't realize that if we threw out the first three days it would
still leave you more than 200 points out of first place and 99 points out of 8th.
Sorry about that.......
Anyway, plenty of movement yeaterday, with DB, PL, JL, and JG moving up, while TM, CC, and GG all dropped back.
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's Probables & Standings DB^ 1571 CWS (29) 39 1610 Min Santana 3-3 3.89
TM 1597 Det (-9) 05 1602 Min
PL^ 1523 CWS (29) 45 1568 Min
JL^ 1496 Oak (21) 66 1562 CWS Buehrle 4-2 3.76
GG 1523 Hou (04) 20 1543 Det Maroth 4-1 1.78
CC 1525 Cin (04) 15 1540 Min
JG^ 1452 CWS (29) 61 1513 CWS
DC 1494 Cin (04) 14 1508 Det
SC 1244 Cin (04) 21 1265 Min
LZ 1107 Bos (16) 46 1153 Bos DiNardo 2-1 9.00
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 12:11 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Hmmmm....My intention was to make you feel better, SC, not worse. Didn't realize that if we threw out the first three days it would still leave you more than 200 points out of first place and 99 points out of 8th.
Shouldn't you be hanging flower baskets instead of wasting time compiling useless statistics?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 12:41 PM
Compiling useless statistics
are my "hanging flower baskets."
:p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 05:05 PM
Sunday's Lines DB Min Santana -145 vs Maroth (GG, DC)
TM Min
PL Min
JL CWS Buehrle -320 Daily favorite
GG Det Maroth +145 vs Santana (Top 3, CC, SC)
CC Min
JG CWS
DC Det
SC Min
LZ Bos DiNardo -115
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 05:39 PM
What a strange Mets/Braves game. People are getting thrown out left and right.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
What a strange Mets/Braves game. People are getting thrown out left and right.
I went to a game once and everyone was getting thrown out from center.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 08:19 PM
I adore Jeff Francoeur.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/07/06 11:30 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
That is, if you can call what [b]LZ is doing "battling". [/b]
Some might. In fact, I think the French do.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/08/06 10:22 AM
Sunday's Scores & Monday's Probables & Standings DB 1610 Min (34) 61 1671 Tor Halladay 4-1 3.73
TM 1602 Min (34) 49 1651 Tor
PL 1568 Min (34) 54 1622 ChC Maddux 5-1 2.35
CC^ 1540 Min (34) 80 1620 ChC
JL 1562 CWS (24) 53 1615 ChC
GG 1543 Det (04) 24 1567 Hou Oswalt 5-2 2.86
JG 1513 CWS (24) 46 1559 Hou
DC 1508 Det (04) 26 1534 Hou
SC 1265 Min (34) 66 1331 Hou
LZ 1153 Bos (18) 41 1194 Bos DNP today
Interesting how the first two in the standings have Toronto, the next three have the Cubs, and the next four have Houston.
Kind of a nice symetry there, dontcha' think?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/08/06 11:08 AM
From The Department Of Useless Statistics Previous Totals
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
TM 21- 9 3.48 516 887 412 .464 846 1362
DB 20-10 3.96 436 940 448 .477 886 1322
CC 18-13 3.79 452 906 422 .466 855 1307
PL 19-11 4.21 421 947 436 .460 877 1298
GG 19-12 4.32 354 924 453 .490 927 1281
DC 22- 8 3.66 479 848 391 .461 778 1257
JL 16-14 3.82 456 953 398 .418 781 1237
JG 15-16 4.49 339 915 435 .475 869 1208
SC 15-11 4.18 359 772 330 .427 665 1024
LZ 15-11 4.87 270 748 342 .457 704 974 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
JL 6-1 2.45 169 216 102 .472 209 378
JG 5-2 2.35 168 206 89 .432 183 351
DB 6-1 2.45 186 207 87 .420 163 349
PL 6-1 2.35 190 195 67 .344 134 329
CC 4-3 3.52 122 209 104 .498 191 313
SC 4-3 3.86 104 211 104 .493 203 307
TM 6-1 2.89 155 214 73 .341 134 289
GG 3-4 3.03 110 203 90 .443 176 286
DC 3-4 3.48 104 210 89 .424 173 277
LZ 5-1 3.67 78 166 59 .355 142 220 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
DB 26-11 3.66 622 1147 535 .466 1049 1671
TM 27-10 3.36 671 1101 485 .441 980 1651
PL 25-12 3.85 611 1142 503 .440 1011 1622
CC 22-16 3.74 574 1115 526 .472 1046 1620
JL 22-15 3.55 625 1169 500 .428 990 1615
GG 22-16 3.03 464 1127 543 .482 1103 1567
JG 21-18 4.09 507 1121 524 .467 1052 1559
DC 25-12 3.63 583 1058 480 .454 951 1534
SC 19-14 4.11 463 983 434 .442 868 1331
LZ 20-12 4.64 348 914 401 .439 846 1194
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/08/06 04:58 PM
Monday's 'Symmetrical' PS Lines
DB Tor Halladay -170 Todays 2nd Favorite Line
TM Tor
PL ChC Maddux +115 Underdog
CC ChC
JL ChC
GG Hou Oswalt -135
JG Hou
DC Hou
SC Hou
CLE (Byrd) -182 Todays Favorite Line
Posted By: fathersson
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/08/06 08:46 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
It's all that stuff about playing the game for the right or wrong reasons, and how winning doesn't matter, and just wanting to play for the fun of it, and how all the other things that got mentioned (in his case grass cutting and flower-basket-hangining, and grilling, and a nice cold beer on a hot summer day) that are more important than fantasy sports, that [b]REMIND me of FS.
Don't get insulted; In no way am I comparing him to you. [/b]
Some people never learn.
You see, people who will not give 1000 percent ruin the game for Uncle Pee.
There is little or no life outside of the fantasy box.
You broke the first and only rule of the board. You admitted that you weren't giving your soul to the game.
Shame on you, there will be no breadsticks for you!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/08/06 10:19 PM
No, it's not breadsticks. :rolleyes:
It's
garlic bread, damn it
Can we
please get at least
that right?
(Was that post approved by Don Cardi? :p
)
Posted By: fathersson
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/08/06 10:35 PM
Shit, throw him a package of those little oyster crackers then. Hell, even in the old prison system they would serve them bread and water.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 12:26 PM
Monday's Scores & Tuesday's Probables & Standings DB 1671 Tor (30) 48 1719 NYM Martinez 6-0 2.72
TM 1651 Tor (30) 54 1705 StL Carpenter 4-3 2.35
PL 1622 ChC (-13) 12 1634 StL
CC 1620 ChC (-13) 04 1624 NYM
JL 1615 ChC (-13) 07 1622 Sea Hernandez 2-4 5.40
GG 1567 Hou (-2) 26 1593 Hou Pettitte 2-5 5.06
JG 1559 Hou (-2) 21 1580 NYM
DC 1534 Hou (-2) 40 1574 Ari Batista 4-2 5.29
SC 1331 Hou (-2) 47 1378 Hou
LZ 1194 Bos (00) 15 1209 Bos
OK Don Cardi....
This is it.....
Showdown. Gunfight at the O.K. Corral if necessary.
I don't care what strategy explanations you do or don't owe anyone or that I'm not paying you $2 million a year to manage my team like George Steinbrenner pays Joe Torre.
And I don't want to that whole
Whatever my reasons, they are MY reasons and in no way should I have to be made to feel that I have to explain all of my moves to you..... speech, either.
What I
DO want to know -- what I
DEMAND TO KNOW IS.....
How the hell can you take Batista tonight when you have pitchers like Pedro and Carpenter going?
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 01:17 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
What I [b]DO want to know -- what I
DEMAND TO KNOW IS.....
How the hell can you take Batista tonight when you have pitchers like Pedro and Carpenter going? [/b]
PLAW : "Is it true that you took Batista?"
DON CARDI : " Don't ask me about my business..."
PLAW : "No."
DON CARDI (as he slams his hand on the desk) "Enough!"
(then)
"Alright. This one time [Cardi points his finger] -- this one time I'll let you ask me about my affairs..."
Well first of all I figured that the majority here would go with either Carpenter ot Pedro. I then figured that most may go with Carpenter over Pedro because the thinking is that the Mets/Phillies matchup tonight could be a real tough game. And I also happen to think that tonights game can be a real close and tough one. Pedro is a spectacular 6 - 0. But he
just may be due for a loss, and being that they are on the road against a tough division team, I decided to stay away from Pedro this time around.
Now Arizona, who I believe is what, 4th in the league in pitching, is playing a very weak Pittsburgh team. Pitts has lost more than they've won at home, and Arizona has played above .500 on the road. They have won 7 of their last 8, losing a close one to the Reds, and are pretty hot coming up against a very weak Pitt team. In his last outing Batista pitched a solid 7 innings only giving up 1 earned run.
So figuring in all that I mentioned above with the fact that I am back in the standings, I thought that Batista may be a decent bet for me and a chance for me to pick up some ground in the standings if the majority went with Pedro or Carpenter.
Do you always go with the favorites in every race Plaw?
[PLAW leaves the room to fix Don Cardi a drink. At the same time, SC, Gina, and Letizia enter the office. SC shakes Cardi's hand. Plaw turns his head to watch
them. They embrace Cardi, then kiss his hand.]
SC (kissing Cardi's hand) "Batista..."
[Lavinia kisses Cardi's hand as Gina shuts the door blocking Plaw's view]
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 01:33 PM
In this game, I can't get offense. In the Yahoo game, I can't get pitching.
What's the deal, yo!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
In this game, I can't get offense. In the Yahoo game, I can't get pitching.
What's the deal, yo!!!!!!!!
Stop picking Barry Bonds. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 02:36 PM
I got it, DC....
You're confusing Batista, the Arizona pitcher, with Hyman Roth's friend Batista, from Cuba.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 02:38 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
In this game, I can't get offense. In the Yahoo game, I can't get pitching.
It's not like you're
totally screwed up.
In this game you're first, at least. In the Yahoo game you're last.
If I were you, I'd put all my starters on waivers and start all over.
Fuck 'em.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 02:58 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I got it, DC....
You're confusing Batista, the Arizona pitcher, with Hyman Roth's friend Batista, from Cuba. Exactly!
"One of the things I enjoy about this country; baseball. I've loved baseball ever since Arnold Rothstein fixed the Arizona vs. Pittsburgh game in 2006." Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 04:57 PM
Tuesday's PS Lines...
DB NYM Martinez -130 Estimate closer to -104
TM StL Carpenter -260 Day's Favorite; Est -179
PL StL
CC NYM
JL Sea Hernandez -165 Estimate closer to -219
GG Hou Pettitte -110 Estimate closer to -135
JG NYM
DC Ari Batista -110 Estimate closer to -184
SC Hou
LZ Bos Beckett +155 Underdog vs Big Unit; Est +162
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 05:17 PM
What is "Estimate Closer..."?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/09/06 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
What is "Estimate Closer..."?
My "source" presents the current line, and after an extensive analysis, estimates what they think the line should be...
I just wish they'd do it the day BEFORE the games, but no, so there's really no advantage to that information for our games...
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 01:47 AM
What was that joke about me only being as good as the Astros record...?
This game sucks. I quit.
I wanted to catch up on all the posts I missed, but I think I'll have to save this thread for the weekend - looks like a novel!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 08:07 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Nor have I checked to see how accurate their estimates have been... Actually, I'll do that now for yesterday..
Vhecking the accuracy of their W-L recird for betting purposes is meaningless, unless you're gonna keep track of how you would do making the same size bet on their favorite pick every day.
If you're always laying 8-5 or 9-5 or wahtever, you need a winning percentage of well over 60% just to break even.
But if you only lay 6-5 every day, then you only need a winning percentage of about 55%.
Since every day you're laying a different price (and any system which purports to give you the team most likely to win every day will just about
always pick a favorite), it's impossible to know if you would have made or lost money betting those picks unless you made a mythical bet of the same amount every day on their selection.
That's way bettors who wager on baseball that know what they're doing look for "value" in the line, rather than winners.
A team that's an 8-5 favorite (-160) will just about
always look like the likelier team to win, but the smart bettor will ask himself "Are they likely to win more or than 62.5% of the time?
A team that's a 7-5 underdog (+140) will just about
always look like the likelier team to lose, but the smart bettor will ask himself "Are they likely to lose more or less than 41.7% of the time?
As far as our game goes, though, I guess there could be value in knowing which team thebetting public thinks has the greatest chance of winning.
I never really looked to see if my betting site posts the lines on the next days games before 3:00 AM.
They're up there now - I'll post them in a minute - and I'll check tomorrow to see about what time they post them for Thursday's games.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 08:26 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
As far as our game goes, though, I guess there could be value in knowing which team thebetting public thinks has the greatest chance of winning.
That value is very limited, though, because it takes into account which team has the best chance of winning, which is way different then betting on which pitching staff will have the best pitching score for the day.
Anyway, here are some selected lines from my off-shore sportsbook for today's (Thursday) games:
Mets Glavine -112
Phillies Lidle +102
-
Boston Schilling +110
NY Yankees Mussina -125
-
Texas Padilla -165
Arizona Webb -150
Houston Buchholz -105
Chic Cubs Zambrano -118
Tampa Bay Kazmir +114
First of all, it should b noted that this line is very early.
In other words, very little money has been bet at these prices yet.
As the bets come on, the lines will be adjusted accordingly to attract money on the side that the book needs to "balance" themselves.
If I have a chance, about 6:30 PM or so tomorrow I'll post the lines again so we can see what, if any, movement there was.
These lines, however, may be
more accurate than the ones that reflect actual betting, since they are set by "expert" linemakers (altho it should be pointed out that the line does not necessarily reflect the relative chances of a team winning but, rather, is designed to attract an equal amount of betting action on each side).
I threw the Texas line in there, because at -165 they're the biggest favorite of the day - theoretically the team with the best chance of winning.
But that's because they're at home (in a definite hitter's park), playing a presumably much weaker team (Minnesota), and facing a horrible (so far) pitcher (Lohse, 1-3, 9.71).
The thing to remember here is that just because Texas may have the best chance of
winning their game, I don't think that anyone in the world would think that their pitching staff has the best chance of coming in with the best pitching score for the day.
Interestingly, BTW, is the fact that the Chicago White Sox are "off the board", with no line listed.
That's because Contreras apparently is
not pitching, and they're not sure who
is gonna pitch for the White Sox, so the sportsbook doesn't want to take the chance of coming out with a "wrong" line that can be taken advantage of by someone who
does know who's gonna pitch for the Sox.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 10:20 AM
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables & Standings Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
This game sucks. I quit. :( No! NO!
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Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 03:34 PM
Thanks for clearing all that up, Plaw.
I was enjoying it up 'til the part about Contrerass not pitching...
PS - GG's back already??
You better not quit! :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 03:39 PM
JG gets to have fun with a knuckleballer.
Here are his Triple-A stats...
40 IP, 0 HR, 0.45 ERA
Not too shabby.....
Gina!! Welcome back!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 04:19 PM
I don't think I'm gonna be around before the games start later, so here's an update as of noe on what the lines are:
3:30 This Morning 12:00 Noon today
-
Mets Glavine -112 -108
Phillies Lidle +102 -102
-
Boston Schilling +110 +112
NY Yankees Mussina -125 -122
-
Texas Padilla -165 -180
Arizona Webb -150 -160
Houston Buchholz -105 +103
Chic Cubs Zambrano -118 -114
Tampa Bay Kazmir +114 +105
In the Mets-Phils game, the book needs more money to be bet on the Mets, since the price dropped from -112 to -108, maaking them more attractive, and the price on the PHils went from getting 1.02 for a dollar, to getting 1.00 for putting up 1.02, making them less attractive.
I'm not sure what the movement in the Yanks-Bost game indicates (and I don't feel like a lengthy explanation as to why); Maybe JL will read this and stick in his .02
We can also deduce that since this morning more money was bet on Texas, since the line went from -160 to -180, which means that if you want to bet on Texas you have to put up 1.80 to win a dollar instead of 1.60
Theoretically this attracts money to the other side, since probably now instead of getting 1.50 or 1.55 for a dollar risked on Minnesota, you get back 1.60 or 1.70
Same thing with Arizona.
They were the favorite and the line moved up, which means you have to risk more to bet on them, and you get more back if you bet on Pittsburgh.
For the Houston game it's different.
They were a slight underdog (the Dodgers were probably -115 this morning), and apparently so much was bet on the Dodgers that Houston is now even a bigger underdog.
The Cubs were a favorite, now they're still the favorite, but the price is lower, meaning that more money was bet on the other side at that price, so they are trying to attract money to the Cubs.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 06:46 PM
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Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
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You don't say! :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 08:01 PM
I wanted to delete the post, but from some reason I'm not allowed.
Posted By: AppleOnYa
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 08:17 PM
Just Lou...you need to review a thread in the 'Help' forum, entitled 'Thread Deletion/Editing Rules Modification'
Apple
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 08:20 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PS - GG's back already?? Too soon?
It was actually a short trip, I suppose, yet it felt like forever to me. It was very fun, but I sure missed home.
Thanks for the welcome, guys. I'll try to get back in touch with my fantasy interests, but I feel completely out of the baseball loop right now.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 09:07 PM
Originally posted by AppleOnYa:
Just Lou...you need to review a thread in the 'Help' forum, entitled 'Thread Deletion/Editing Rules Modification'
Apple
Apple scanning the Sports Forum. Interesting. Now all we have to do is get you to start playing in one of the fantasy games here. I'd love to see you and Plaw debate sports!
Don Cardi
Posted By: AppleOnYa
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 09:44 PM
Sports is probably the one area where I'd have any degree of regard for his opinions.
In addition to the GF forums, that is...
Oh, and all things 'Titanic'.
Apple
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 10:28 PM
buuuuuurned!!!
what have you been saying out there plaw??
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 11:47 PM
Just making sense, as usual.
Just speaking the truth, asking the right questions, and calling it as I see it which, apparently, is more than some people can handle.
But this is a Sports Forum, so let's keep the discussion limited to sports, shall we kids?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/10/06 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
I wanted to delete the post, but from some reason I'm not allowed.
If you were gonna try and help me out with an explanation on the movement of the Yanks-Boston line.....
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/11/06 02:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I feel completely out of the baseball loop right now. No, seriously... I know you knew that, but it's worth a mention. It's like a Gigi/Zia face-off. :p I'm going tonight, possibly tomorrow as well, if I can convince my cousin or anyone else to call in sick. It's at noon tomorrow, I think. Which means a tan for Zia. You know what though... I'm kinda torn!! I rooted for your guys last year after the Dodgers got knocked out, so I feel like I'm an honorary Astros fan. Not enough to actually root for them at the game and risk getting beat up, though. I'll just be wishing they could both win. The Dodgers are on a hell of a streak though! <---- There ya go, I probably just jinxed it. You're welcome. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/11/06 03:12 AM
Originally posted by Don Douchebag:
JG gets to have fun with a knuckleballer.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/11/06 03:25 AM
Darn you, Zia!
Darn you! Okay, I'm being negative because I'm sleepy - I'll be better tomorrow.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/11/06 03:47 PM
Wedesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables & Standings DB 1789 Ari (16) 60 1849 SaD Peavy 3-4 4.17
TM 1756 TaB (38) 68 1824 SaD
JL^ 1682 Ari (16) 62 1744 Cin Arroyo 5-2 2.36
PL 1696 Ari (16) 47 1743 Fla Willis 1-6 5.15
CC 1664 NYM (16) 45 1709 SaF Wright 3-3 4.61
DC^ 1602 Ari (16) 46 1648 Cin
JG 1621 CWS (-17) 08 1629 Cin
GG 1590 Hou (-14) 19 1609 CWS Garland 3-3 6.15
SC 1422 NYM (16) 44 1466 NYM Trachsel 4-2 4.96 (DNP)
LZ 1264 Bos (-04) 21 1285 Bos Wakefield 3-4 3.97
Except for Arroyo, some horrible pitching records out there today.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/11/06 08:10 PM
C'mon... It's barely raining over here.
(said as the car door of the taxi I just got out off almost blew off its handles)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/11/06 11:29 PM
[Whine Alert]
Three rain outs and one DNP... This game blows.
[/Whine Alert]
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 12:03 AM
You think that's bad I have a rained out player on my roster. And it's from a team playing in Baltimore and I've known that it was supposed to rain all day today too.
I have to stop watching games where I have the ps. I turned on the SF/Cubs game, it's the top of the 8th and SF is pitching a shut out. 15 minutes later the Cubs score 3 runs. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 12:15 AM
4 offensive points so far, and all my players are accounted for.
There's not a big enough whine alert to cover that.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
You think that's bad I have a rained out player on my roster. And it's from a team playing in Baltimore and I've known that it was supposed to rain all day today too.
I have Thome on my team.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 12:20 AM
What has happened to us DB?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 12:35 AM
Can I join in?
CWS pitching for me.
I forgot Ausmus doesn't catch Wandy.
But, my sacrifice of the Astros PS was what brought us a win today - I realized I'd been jinxing them this whole time I'd had 'em. Good thing I noticed that sooner than later, right?!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 11:47 AM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables & Standings DB 1849 SaD (23) 42 1891 Min Santana 4-3 3.69
TM 1824 SaD (23) 32 1856 Min
JL 1744 Cin (23) 54 1798 Min
PL 1743 Fla (-16) -10 1733 Min
CC 1709 SaF (18) 23 1732 Atl Smoltz 2-5 3.72
DC 1648 Cin (23) 41 1689 CWS Garland 3-3 6.15 or Vazquez 4-2 2.88
JG 1629 Cin (23) 43 1672 Min
GG 1609 CWS (00) 07 1616 StL Mulder 6-1 4.44
SC 1466 NYM (01) 24 1490 NYM Lima 0-1 9.00 (DNP)
LZ 1285 Bos (23) 31 1316 Bos Clement 4-2 5.35
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
What has happened to us DB? Around what was supposed to be game time, the rain was light. In my opinion, they called the game way too early in the day.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 03:23 PM
Here's a random question for you guys:
Do post-season statistics count in the record books? For example, I'm sure Babe Ruth hit many homeruns during the playoffs - are those counted in 714? Does it vary by sport?
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Here's a random question for you guys:
Do post-season statistics count in the record books? For example, I'm sure Babe Ruth hit many homeruns during the playoffs - are those counted in 714? Does it vary by sport?
Nope, they don't count. They have seperate records for the Post Season.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/12/06 11:21 PM
[WhineAlert] Padres score 10 runs today against the Cubs, and between Barfield & Greene's 9 ABs I managed ONE POINT????
[/WhineAlert]
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/13/06 11:29 AM
Fridday's Scores & Saturday's Probables & Standings DB 1891 Min (35) 56 1947 Tor Halladay 5-1 3.12
TM 1856 Min (35) 60 1916 Hou Oswalt 5-3 3.62
JL 1798 Min (35) 67 1865 Pit Duke 2-5 4.00
PL 1733 Min (35) 61 1794 Tor Over cap. Fell asleep at computer
CC 1732 Atl (28) 50 1782 Hou
JG^ 1672 Min (35) 55 1727 Tor
DC 1689 CWS (-20) 04 1693 Tor
GG 1616 StL (22) 51 1667 Tor
SC 1490 NYM (-10) 27 1517 NYM Gonzalez 0-0 0.00 (DNP today)
LZ 1316 Bos (-06) 19 1335 Bos DiNardo 3-1 7.00 (DNP toady)
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/13/06 02:23 PM
Boy did my team suck big time.
Just may be time for a Steinbrenner overhaul!
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/13/06 04:39 PM
Over cap. Fell asleep at computer
A rare occurrance here, folks -- an F-up from a veteran!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/13/06 05:32 PM
And watch, I'll probably get a -30 from my ps and finish with a negative number.
But if this doesn't happen should I feel guilty if I pass plaw, with help from another source? I feel like Barry Bonds.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/13/06 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
should I feel guilty if I pass plaw
Absolutely not!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/13/06 06:04 PM
You're right. If it were reversed he'd give me a tongue lashing then laugh whilest he's stampling over me when he passes me.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/14/06 07:22 AM
It was the damn Ambiens.
But it's a looooooong season.
Anyway, to resolve a question from a few days ago....
If you're insterested in the professional linemakers opinions in picking a PS, they did have all the lines for tomorrow's games posted way before 3:00 AM.
Here are some selections:
Atlanta -165
Wash +145
-
Mets -165
Milw +145
-
Houston -140
Colorado + 125
-
St. Louis -280
Arizona +240
-
San Fran -170
Los Angeles +150
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Yankees -200
Oakland +170
-
Boston -170
Texas +150
-
W Sox -200
Minn +170
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I'll update tomorrow before game time if I can.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/14/06 12:15 PM
Saturday Scores & Sunday's Probables & Standings DB 1947 Tor (28) 62 2009 StL Carpenter 5-3 2.21
TM 1916 Hou (15) 29 1945 StL
JL 1865 Pit (15) 45 1910 StL
CC^ 1782 Hou (15) 42 1824 SaF
PL 1794 DNP (00) 00 1794 StL
JG 1727 Tor (28) 38 1765 SaF Schmidt 4-3 3.29
DC 1693 Tor (28) 39 1732 NYM Martinez 6-1 2.89
GG 1667 Tor (28) 42 1709 NYM
SC 1517 NYM (09) 22 1539 NYM
LZ 1335 Bos (00) 29 1364 Bos Beckett 4-3 4.70
I'm not by any means suggesting this as something we should actually do - and certainly not because it happens to apply to me (I pride myself in never coming up with ideas simply because they are in my own self-interest), BUT.....
The way I play this game, and they way I'm sure everyone else does, is to first pick a PS and then build my offense around it.
So it's too bad that on a day when someone is accidentally over the salary cap we can't just count that person's pitching points, since regardless of what they would have done to their offense to get under the cap - and they almost just as easily might've gotten more points as fewer - it's pretty much a certainty that their pitching staff would have been the same.
As I say.....just a general comment, not by any means a suggestion.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/14/06 01:45 PM
I'm glad that's not a suggestion. Cuz then I'd have to suggest not waiting 'til the last second to pick a starting lineup.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/14/06 02:11 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
So it's too bad that on a day when someone is accidentally over the salary cap we can't just count that person's pitching points, [/QB]
Yes, it is too bad, but that is the way the game is set up and the pitching staff falls under the same cap as the rest of the team. So I'm not sure what you are actually commenting on or implying.
Are you thinking that even if someone goes over the salary cap, we should still count their pitching points anyway?
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 02:50 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
So it's too bad that on a day when someone is accidentally over the salary cap we can't just count that person's pitching points,
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Yes, it is too bad, but that is the way the game is set up and the pitching staff falls under the same cap as the rest of the team. So I'm not sure what you are actually commenting on or implying.
Are you thinking that even if someone goes over the salary cap, we should still count their pitching points anyway?
Don Cardi Um, what are you not sure of, since it would seem as though you agree with me.
Originally posted by plawrence:
So it's too bad.....
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Yes, it is too bad.....
I think what I'm commenting on is pretty clear.
Am I thinking that even if someone goes over the salary cap we should count their pitching points anyway?
No....where did I say, imply, or suggest that?
All I'm saying is that because we all pick our teams the same way, it's too bad that we can't, not that we should.
Obviously, I don't know for
sure that if one day you or I or anyone else picks a PS and then an offense and then finds ourselves over the cap we won't be so in love with the offense that we wouldn't go back and find a cheaper PS.
In four seasons I've probably done that a handful of times myself.
But in almost every case there's at least one guy on your offense that you're not so in love with that you can't find someone cheaper.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 06:45 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
because we all pick our teams the same way
ASSumption....? :p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 06:53 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
ASSumption....? :p
You think so? Or is he just letting out some more of his hot air?
Don Cardi
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 07:15 AM
Is this the first time someone fell asleep while picking their team, and went over the cap?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 07:37 AM
I think Plaw's done it once before... :p
This is why I set up a lineup FIRST THING -- so even if I were to get distracted (e.g., drunk) later on, at least I know most picks will be playing...
Of course, my problem has been trying to get my act together to check my shit
before 3AM - which I haven't been able to do too much apparently...
But at least I have a (mostly) valid lineup.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 08:23 AM
I went over the cap once in the basketball game, but that was an accident - I had finished picking my team and simply didn't realize it.
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]because we all pick our teams the same way
ASSumption....? :p [/b][/quote]Wait....Are you saying or implying that you
do not pick your team every day the way I suggested?
'Cuz I know there's a post somewhere where you say just that; I just don't feel like lookiong for it.
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] ASSumption....? :p
You think so? Or is he just letting out some more of his hot air?[/b][/quote]Strictly a gratuitous comment, because I believe that you pick your team the same way as well, which means that my "assumption" is correct and there is nothing "hot airish" about it.
Of course, on the other hand DC, with
you no one knows.
You have so jealously guarded your strategy secrets that have led to your outstanding performance.....
Like when you wrote:
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Maybe I changed my strategy once the first month of the season went by and I did not move up in the standing that much. But whatever my reasons, they are MY reasons and in no way should I have to be made to feel that I have to explain all of my moves to you
I suppose it is quite possible that my assumption is incorrect and you
do go about picking your team backwards.
Although I guess I
do have have to give you
some credit; you have been doing better lately.
You are not only ahead of a person who started three days late and has missed an additional day or two besides
and a person who barely plays at all, you've
temporarily passed someone else who was on vacation for four or five days and had her mother, I think, picking her team for her.
:p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 01:53 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Of course, on the other hand DC, with you no one knows.
You are not only ahead of a person who started three days late and has missed an additional day or two besides [b]and a person who barely plays at all, you've temporarily passed someone else who was on vacation for four or five days and had her mother, I think, picking her team for her.
:p [/b]
Oh boy! What am I gonna do now? My life is spiraling in a downward motion because I'm not doing well in a
fantasy game!
How am I going to be able to sleep at night with this on my head?
WADDA MY GONNA DO! Ahhhhh!
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
WADDA MY GONNA DO! Ahhhhh!
You could act like a man!
*slap* What's da matta wit you? :p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/15/06 05:44 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[b]WADDA MY GONNA DO! Ahhhhh!
You could act like a man!
*slap* What's da matta wit you? :p
[/b][/quote]
You spend all your time playing fantasy baseball?
Cause a man who doesn't spend all his time strategizing his fantasy baseball team can never be a real man.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/16/06 02:55 AM
Sorry for the slight (16 hours) delay in getting this posted.
You know how it is for us folks with busy lives to lead outside of fantasy baseball.
Things to do, places to go, people to see.....
Sunday Scores & Monday's Probables & Standings DB 2009 StL (10) 42 2051 Ari Webb 6-2 2.30
TM 1945 StL (10) 28 1973 Ari
JL 1910 StL (10) 37 1947 Ari
CC 1824 SaF (06) 26 1850 SaF Hennessey 3-2 3.08
PL 1794 StL (10) 22 1816 Ari
JG 1765 SaF (06) 31 1796 NYY Mussina 6-2 2.56
DC 1732 NYM (16) 28 1760 Ari
GG 1709 NYM (16) 35 1744 Hou Buchholz 3-2 3.60
SC 1539 NYM (16) 41 1580 Bos Beckett 4-3 4.70
LZ 1364 Bos (00) 12 1376 Bos
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/16/06 09:16 AM
Bright and early today...
Monday Scores & Tuesday's Probables & Standings DB 2051 Ari (15) 39 2090 Atl Hudson 5-3 4.67
TM 1973 Ari (15) 50 2023 Bos Schilling 6-2 3.76
JL 1947 Ari (15) 50 1997 SaD Peavy 4-4 3.61
CC 1850 SaF (24) 54 1904 NYM Glavine 6-2 2.19
PL 1816 Ari (15) 53 1869 SaD
JG 1796 NYY (10) 43 1839 Bos
DC 1760 Ari (15) 33 1793 Hou Rodriguez 6-2 3.02
GG 1744 Hou (-14) 12 1756 Hou
SC 1580 Bos (35) 56 1636 Bos
LZ 1376 Bos (35) 49 1425 Bos
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/17/06 01:41 PM
Tuesday Scores & Wednesday's Probables & Standings DB 2090 Atl (29) 47 2137 Min Santana 5-3 3.38
TM 2023 Bos (10) 44 2067 Atl Smoltz 3-5 3.44
JL 1997 SaD (00) 33 2030 Min
CC 1904 NYM (15) 47 1951 Min
PL 1869 SaD (00) 29 1898 Min
JG 1839 Bos (10) 47 1886 Min
DC 1793 Hou (-18) 04 1797 Cin Arroyo 6-2 2.03
GG 1756 Hou (-18) 14 1770 Hou Nieve 4-1 4.78
SC 1636 Bos (10) 36 1672 Cin
LZ 1425 Bos (10) 38 1463 Bos Wakefield 4-4 4.03
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/17/06 02:56 PM
When you're right you're right Plaw. Right now I'm just horrible in this game.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/17/06 03:33 PM
Keep your head up, DC.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/17/06 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Keep your head up, DC. Thanks Don S. Perhaps I am approaching the play of this game the worng way. I don't know.
I'm in 3 Yahoo Fantasy leagues, 2 of them POINTS and one of them HEAD TO HEAD, and in the two POINTS leagues, I am in 1st place in one of them and 3rd place in the other.
In the head to head league I am in 3rd place.
But for some godforsaken reason, I just can't seem to do well in this Salary Cap league.
Maybe next year I'll just stick to salary cap Golf!
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/19/06 12:50 AM
Wednesday Scores & Thursday Probables
DB 2137 Min (25) 41 2178 TOR Halladay (5-1, 2.74)
TM 2067 Atl (22) 46 2113 TOR
JL 2030 Min (25) 52 2082 CWS Vazquez (4-2, 3.88)
CC 1951 Min (25) 47 1998 TOR
PL 1898 Min (25) 51 1949 TOR
JG 1886 Min (25) 53 1939 LAA Lackey (3-3, 3.61)
DC 1797 Cin (-6) 31 1828 TOR
GG 1770 Hou (-9) 12 1782 TOR
SC 1672 Cin (-6) 38 1710 TOR
JG
vs DB, TM, CC, PL, DC, GG, SC
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/19/06 05:20 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
JG [b]vs DB, TM, CC, PL, DC, GG, SC
[/b]
4-4 after 9 innings... fine.
7-4 after 9.1 innings...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/19/06 05:43 AM
After 9, tied 4-4, one or two points difference...
After 10? -4 vs 20 ??
That's called LUCK.
Halladay 7 IP 8 H 4 R 4 ER 2 BB 7 K
Lackey 6 IP 4 H 3 R 3 ER 5 BB 3 K
I'm flying out tonight, to Anaheim, to see Francisco Rodriguez... make HIM explain why he cost me 24 pts tonight.
:rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/19/06 06:25 AM
How do you think I feel? I have the asshole on my Yahoo team.
:rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/19/06 04:32 PM
Thursday Scores & Friday Probables
DB 2178 TOR (20) 45 2223 STL Carpenter (3-2, 1.98)
TM 2113 TOR (20) 44 2157 CLE Sabathia (2-1, 2.31)
JL 2082 CWS (05) 18 2100 STL
CC 1998 TOR (20) 34 2032 HOU Oswalt (5-3, 3.50)
PL 1949 TOR (20) 36 1985 STL
JG 1939 LAA (-1) 25 1964 CLE
DC 1828 TOR (20) 38 1866 BAL Benson (5-3, 4.38)
GG 1782 TOR (20) 40 1822 TOR Towers (1-7, 8.45)
SC 1710 TOR (20) 54 1764 TOR
DNP: GG, SC
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/19/06 04:49 PM
Sabathia is going to kick ass today. thank god interleague play has begun, I was getting bored with all that Pittsburg-Cincinnati matchups.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/19/06 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
Sabathia is going to kick ass today.
Thanks for jinxing it for me. :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 01:40 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
[b] Sabathia is going to kick ass today.
Thanks for jinxing it for me. :rolleyes: :p [/b][/quote]Thanks for NOT jinxing it!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 04:08 PM
Friday Scores & Saturday Probables
DB 2223 STL (10) 42 2265 CWS Garcia (7-1, 4.56)
TM 2157 CLE (34) 55 2212 SFO Schmidt (4-4, 3.20)
JL 2100 STL (10) 47 2147 ARI Webb (7-2, 2.78)
CC 2032 HOU (16) 43 2075 HOU Pettitte (3-6, 4.76)
PL 1985 STL (10) 71 2056 ARI
JG 1964 CLE (34) 65 2029 SFO
DC 1866 BAL (25) 58 1924 NYM Martinez (6-2, 3.19)
GG 1822 TOR (-9) 23 1845 HOU
SC 1764 TOR (-9) 07 1771 CWS
LZ 1503 BOS (23) 55 1558 Bos Beckett (5-3, 4.24)
DNP: CC, GG
Incredible 61 pts of offense for PL yesterday
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 04:19 PM
About time I had a good day on offense.
BTW, I edited the scores above to reflect the team's W-L on days that the guy pitched, rather than the pitcher's individual W-L record, which is the way I have been doing it all along.
I also put LZ back in there; She hasn't removed herself from the league, and she throws in an occasional post.....
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 04:40 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Incredible 61 pts of offense for PL yesterday
yeah I have to admit, I wish I knew PL's "technique" to pick offense players. I always get mad when I go see his box score and find out he got 10+ pts from inoffensive players, just like Batista and Bard yesterday.
I outscored the bastard 34-10 in pitching and he still beats me!
PS: Schmidt is going to kick ass today!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] Incredible 61 pts of offense for PL yesterday
yeah I have to admit, I wish I knew PL's "technique" to pick offense players. I always get mad when I go see his box score and find out he got 10+ pts from inoffensive players, just like Batista and Bard yesterday.
I outscored the bastard 34-10 in pitching and he still beats me!
[/b][/quote]Which box scores have you been looking at, TM?
My "technique" which has served me well over the years hasn't been anything special this season.
This past Monday I didn't post the weekly stats for last week or the cumulative stats for the season but, like everyone else, my pitching has been spotty, with my PS scores around the same as everyone else's.
It's been my offense which has let me down this season.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
Schmidt is going to kick ass today!
Thanks for jinxing it for me! :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 05:26 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I also put LZ back in there
Fine with me - it was just less work for someone who's not even playing... :p
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 06:06 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Which box scores have you been looking at, TM? I mean your team's page. (click at team's name, then at "previous" or "today", depending on the time)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/20/06 07:11 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[/CODE]DNP: CC, GG
Ok, I don't know how I managed that. I know I got busy at work yesterday, but I swore I changed my team. Guess not.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/21/06 03:15 PM
Saturday Scores & Sunday Probables
DB 2265 CWS (28) 61 2326 CWS Contreras (5-1, 1.41)
TM 2212 SFO (22) 52 2264 TAM Kazmir (7-2, 2.73)
JL 2147 ARI (35) 70 2217 TAM
CC 2075 HOU (-2) 39 2114 CWS
PL 2056 ARI (35) 56 2112 TAM
JG 2029 SFO (22) 57 2086 TAM
DC 1924 NYM (14) 36 1960 CWS
GG 1845 HOU (-2) 18 1863 CWS
SC 1771 CWS (28) 60 1831 CWS
LZ 1558 Bos (18) 51 1609 BOS DiNardo (3-3, 6.17)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/22/06 12:40 AM
Sunday Scores & Monday Probables
DB 2326 CWS (00) 25 2351 SDG Peavy (5-5, 3.77)
TM 2264 TAM (38) 84 2348 BOS Schilling (7-2, 4.17)
JL 2217 TAM (38) 70 2287 SDG
PL^ 2112 TAM (38) 71 2183 ATL Smoltz (4-5, 3.47)
CC 2114 CWS (00) 32 2146 STL Mulder (8-1, 3.69)
JG 2086 TAM (38) 47 2133 CIN Arroyo (6-3, 2.40)
DC 1960 CWS (00) 19 1979 DET Verlander (5-3, 3.18)
GG 1863 CWS (00) 27 1890 HOU WRodriguez (6-3, 3.81)
SC 1831 CWS (00) 22 1853 STL
LZ 1609 BOS (-21) 04 1613 BOS
Quite a varied PS mix today...
PL
vs DB & JL (Current Line: San Diego -110)
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/22/06 03:07 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]Sunday Scores
TM 2264 TAM (38) 83 2347 Almost... [/b]
I also thought it was 83, but the box score says 84. who's right??
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/22/06 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I also thought it was 83, but the box score says 84. who's right??
Yeah, scores are unofficial until the next morning. A few people got an extra point, but not sure why...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/23/06 06:03 AM
Monday Scores (unofficial)
DB 2351 SDG (30) 51 2402
TM 2348 BOS (13) 48 2396
JL 2287 SDG (30) 53 2340
PL 2183 ATL (27) 54 2237
JG^ 2133 CIN (16) 49 2182
CC 2146 STL (-15) 11 2157
DC 1979 DET (33) 60 2039
GG 1890 HOU (25) 44 1934
SC 1853 STL (-15) 21 1874
LZ 1613 BOS (13) 21 1634
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/23/06 07:48 AM
Despite my continual downslide, I've finally gathered the courage to show my face here.
)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/23/06 11:11 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
CC 2146 STL (-15) 11 2157
[/CODE]
I had a total of 12 points. :p
Come on, don't rob me. I need all the help I can get.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/23/06 11:33 AM
Monday Scores (Official) & Tuesday's Probables
DB 2351 SDG (30) 52 2403 Min Santana 5-4 3.23
TM 2348 BOS (13) 54 2402 Min
JL 2287 SDG (30) 55 2342 Min
PL 2183 ATL (27) 55 2238 Min
JG^ 2133 CIN (16) 49 2182 Min
CC 2146 STL (-15) 12 2158 Min
DC 1979 DET (33) 61 2040 Det Rogers 7-2 2.91
GG 1890 HOU (25) 47 1937 Det
SC 1853 STL (-15) 21 1874 Det
LZ 1613 BOS (13) 23 1636 Bos Wakefield 4-5 4.17
From
"The Gangster BB Department of Fantasy Baseball Trivia"Something happened yesterday which has
probably happened in the past, but it's certainly a rare occurance when it does happen, and if it ever
did happen before in the four years we've been playing, I don't think anyone noticed it.
Anyone?
(Answer can be found looking at the scores above)
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/23/06 02:44 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Something happened yesterday which has probably happened in the past, but it's certainly a rare occurance when it does happen, and if it ever did happen before in the four years we've been playing, I don't think anyone noticed it.
Anyone?
(Answer can be found looking at the scores above)
Keith Foulke ruined my day? is that it? if I could just slap that fuckin' blower...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/23/06 03:06 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Something happened yesterday which has probably happened in the past, but it's certainly a rare occurance when it does happen, and if it ever did happen before in the four years we've been playing, I don't think anyone noticed it.
A losing PS scored more points than the winning PS. (SD vs ATL)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/23/06 03:32 PM
I was warm. I knew it had something to do with SD having 18 k's and only 5 hits and not getting the win, but I didn't link it to Atlanta scoring less. It was easier then I was trying to make it out to be.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 03:22 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]
Something happened yesterday which has probably happened in the past, but it's certainly a rare occurance when it does happen, and if it ever did happen before in the four years we've been playing, I don't think anyone noticed it.
A losing PS scored more points than the winning PS. (SD vs ATL) [/b][/quote]Bingo.
Nice going there, JL.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 03:46 AM
Thanks. It had me all screwed up this morning when I checked my score, and ASSumed the Mets picked up a game on the Braves.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 09:41 AM
Tuesday Scores & Wednesday's Probables
DB 2403 Min (23) 71 2474 Cle Sabathia 3-2 1.95
TM 2402 Min (23) 50 2452 Hou Oswalt 6-4 3.57
JL 2342 Min (23) 55 2397 ChC Maddux 5-4 3.76
PL 2238 Min (23) 73 2311 StL Carpenter 6-4 2.63
JG 2182 Min (23) 68 2250 Cle
CC 2158 Min (23) 40 2198 StL
DC 2040 Det (07) 40 2080 Bal Benson 6-3 3.86
GG 1937 Det (07) 27 1964 Hou
SC 1874 Det (07) 19 1893 StL
LZ 1636 Bos (04) 22 1658 Bos Clement 5-3 5.36
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 04:11 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
So, um, CS...considering I was one of the ones who worked so hard to get you to join BBC this year - after much begging and pleading - don't you think I deserve a few of your points? I mean, it's only fair. If I had what was rightfully mine, I'd prove to be quite a threat in this game. Sure Gina! How does 200 points sound?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 09:36 PM
Did any of you guys see Carpenter not listed as the SP for StL today?
He didn't start, and I see him listed now as DTD with "back tightness".
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 10:01 PM
Well, he was there yesterday when I picked him, so it must have happened overnight. Oy! :rolleyes:
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Sure Gina! How does 200 points sound?
...a week, right?
Sounds good!
I'm all set to go to a Lastros/Scrubs game this summer, thanks to some free tickets my school gave for Honor Roll - I'll save the trash talk for closer to the time, but I just thought I'd let you know.
I know SB checked in with you recently, but are the wedding plans still going well?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 11:21 PM
Every friggin' time I pick the same friggin pitcher as you in this friggin' game, I get frigged.
Of course, you could say the same friggin' thing and blame it on me, I guess.....
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/24/06 11:47 PM
You friggin got that friggin right.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/25/06 02:03 AM
What a waste of an incredible performance by the Wizard.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/25/06 09:59 AM
Wednesday Scores & Thursday's Probables
DB 2474 Cle (34) 56 2530 Bos Beckett 6-3 4.19
TM 2452 Hou (09) 30 2482 Det Maroth 6-2 2.45
JL 2397 ChC (-12) 18 2415 Det
PL 2311 StL (10) 40 2351 Bos
JG 2250 Cle (34) 58 2308 Det
CC 2198 StL (10) 25 2223 Det
DC 2080 Bal (-01) 40 2120 Det
GG 1964 Hou (09) 23 1987 Det
SC 1893 StL (10) 30 1923 Bos
LZ 1658 Bos (-08) 11 1669 Bos
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/25/06 01:15 PM
Weird. This morning when I went into the website to pick my team for Friday, I was able to change several positions without any problem. That is until I tried to change my second baseman. Every time I clicked on the "2B" to see the players from the other teams, the site would not display them and only the word "NULL" would be displayed?
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/25/06 06:51 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[b] Sure Gina! How does 200 points sound?
...a week, right?
Sounds good!
I'm all set to go to a Lastros/Scrubs game this summer, thanks to some free tickets my school gave for Honor Roll - I'll save the trash talk for closer to the time, but I just thought I'd let you know.
I know SB checked in with you recently, but are the wedding plans still going well? [/b][/quote]200 points per week it is. That's your reward for making the honor roll.
I remember going to West Oaks mall in Houston as a kid and getting 6 free arcade tokens for every A on my report card. Being a nerd, I always cleaned up. Ahhh, the good old days...
Wedding plans have really slowed down. Just a few more things to do and we're all set.
So should I put you guys down for chicken or fish? :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/25/06 07:06 PM
Detroit, we have a problem!
Plaw - You can keep Maroth. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/25/06 07:23 PM
Nerds are cool, CS. Be proud.
Though I'm sure you already are. :p
(Wait a minute...who am I to talk?!
)
Being a
chick, who was once part of a famous
chick sandwich, I'd have to request chicken.
Your fiancee's name is Kim, right? I wanted to ask if she follows baseball, and if so, who her team of choice is...will there be a friendly rivalry between you two?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/25/06 08:03 PM
KC 7, Detroit 5, bottom of the 5th.
Detroit PS is -20.
If they pitch a perfect 5th thru the 9th and get the win, they'd be at exactly zero, plus strikeouts.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 12:05 AM
Det PS -5 ... coulda been worse.
C'mon Tampa!!! Er, or was that supposed to be
Let's Go Red Sox!! That 1-hit shutout after 3 innings is the making of a TERRIFIC ballgame!!!
:p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 12:18 AM
Like anyone would believe a Yanks fan would cheer for the Sox. :p
(Of course, fantasy baseball is known to make people do some crazy things... )
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 01:12 AM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 01:23 AM
Your jinxes suck, Geoff. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 01:28 AM
Yeah, my jinxes don't work nearly as well as my patented Anti-Jinx™ !!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 05:05 AM
Maybe you could (attempt to) jinx me, then - I need all the help I can get.
But I still say we hack into Plaw's account - it's the only way.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 05:13 AM
Jinxes, anti-jinxes...I don't believe in any of that crap.
Originally posted by J Geoff:
WAY TO GO, BECKETT!!! :p
You guys are so lucky to have made the right choice tonight!!!!
I wish you'd make up your mind and stick to it already :rolleyes:
Is this game luck or skill or what?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 05:16 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I don't believe in any of that crap.
And you're a baseball fan?
:p
Originally posted by plawrence:
Is this game luck or skill or what?
Skill when he's winning, luck when he's losing, right?
(
Sorry, JG - I'm on your side...honest! )
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 05:55 AM
On his side about what?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 06:13 AM
Oh, I was just teasing him about switching over between whether the game is skill or luck, as you said, but I didn't want him to think I'd turned against him, since we normally take the same side.
Sorry - that came out a bit confusing...it's late.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 07:24 AM
This game is mostly skill/odds/stats/AND luck. Everyone gets the good/bad day (extra luck, good or bad) that WILL happen now and then...
But I tried to make it worse... failed, sorry...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 12:55 PM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables
DB 2530 Bos (28) 57 2587 NYM Martinez 6-3 2.82
TM 2482 Det (-5) 11 2493 NYM
JL 2415 Det (-5) 37 2452 NYM
PL 2351 Bos (28) 56 2407 SaF Schmidt 5-4 3.07
JG 2308 Det (-5) 27 2335 SaF
CC 2223 Det (-5) 20 2243 NYM
DC 2120 Det (-5) 09 2129 NYM
GG 1987 Det (-5) 10 1997 Ari Webb 8-2 2.44
SC 1923 Bos (28) 50 1973 NYM
LZ 1669 Bos (28) 40 1709 Bos Wells 0-1 15.75
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Wedding plans have really slowed down. Just a few more things to do and we're all set.
So should I put you guys down for chicken or fish? :p
Chicken or fish?
What? No steak? :rolleyes:
Anyway, depends on what kind of fish.
The only kind I really like is salmon or tuna. Otherwise, put me down for the chicken.
This is in August, right? A little bit strange that you're asking about dinner selections before the invitations have even gone out......
What's the exact date? Not to worry, though. Except for the Gangster BB weekend in Philly, I still have the whole month available..
The wedding itself is Saturday night, right? Have you made any arrangements with any hotels for special rates for the out-of-town guests?
BTW, when's the bachelor party? I'm figuring on getting in on Friday afternoon, so if it's that night put me down for it. I was gonna maybe hit a couple of the Blues clubs Friday night, but I know the good ones all have a late show, so I can always go after the bachelor party.
Actually, AAMOF, if the bachelor party is on Wednesday or Thursday I'd even be willing to get into town a couple of days earlier.
Also, if it's the rehearsal dinner on Friday night and not the bachelor party, I would suggest that if you have guests coming in from out-of-town it's courteous to invite them to the rehearsal dinner as well, even if they're
not in the wedding party.
You know, we're in Chicago from wherever and we're strangers in a city we're not familiar with and everything.....
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 02:16 PM
Actually, we might be having steak!
I thought you knew... My wedding date is the date of your GBB reunion. You guys have a drink (or in JG's case - drinks) on me.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 02:18 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Your fiancee's name is Kim, right? I wanted to ask if she follows baseball, and if so, who her team of choice is...will there be a friendly rivalry between you two? She's a Cards fan!
I wish I was more like you Gina - you root for the Lastros no matter what. I've come to realize that I care way more for my fantasy teams than any real life baseball teams (and since I have Pujols on my Yahoo team...)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 02:41 PM
Hmmm....
You know what?
My MWA DB only gets married once. The BB crowd, well, I see them a few times a year....
If it's the same weekend, then put me down for Chicago. Especially if there's gonna be steak. This BB crowd can't decide where to eat that night anyway - there's actually a chance that we may wind up on some crappy boat that was converted to a restaurant
You know how awful those kinds of places usually are.... :rolleyes:
I forgot....did I PM you my address so you know where to send the invitation?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 08:49 PM
Cardinals?!
I would ask how you ever expected a Cubs-Cards marriage to work out, but if you've already given in with Pujols in fantasy...well, you were a lost fan to begin with.
Who am I kidding? I'd take Pujols in a heartbeat! Forget loyalty! No, I really do think you're a true fan, CS. You might do some things I could never do, like pick pitching against your own boys, but I think that stems mainly from your heartbreak in losing Sammy...though it's been a while, he
is a tough guy to let go.
Ah, all this teasing, and I'll probably end up marrying a Bonds fan or something. :p
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/26/06 08:59 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Ah, all this teasing, and I'll probably end up marrying a Bonds fan or something. :p
OMG don't say things like that!!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 04:18 AM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
OMG don't say things like that!! Pretty bad, huh?
Seriously, though...what if I found that out the night before my wedding? Would I cancel? Hmmm.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 05:59 AM
Knowing you, that's not the kind of thing you're gonna wait to find out until "the night before" your wedding.
Knowing you, I think you should have the prospective groom fill out a "Sports Questionnaire" before you even accept an engagement ring.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 06:18 AM
Well, knowing me, I'll end up alone if I start forcing questionnaires on my "prospects," but that sounds like a great idea.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 06:26 AM
I
might be able to pass that test!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 06:33 AM
Question #1: How do you feel about Roger Clemens?
:p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 06:46 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Question #1: How do you feel about Roger Clemens?
Roger has proven to be one of the best pitchers the game has had to offer. I just wish he'd make up his damn mind already!
Go Astros!!
Next question...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 06:48 AM
PS - Plaw's box is full... no doubt, full of shit! :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 06:52 AM
.....
...
Hmm.
So, where's the ring?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 06:56 AM
It's all that shit pot stirring I do....leads to loads of PMs.
I knew my "Sports Questionnaire" idea wasn't original, BTW.
Remember the movie Diner?
The guy who was getting married was making his fiancee take a written test on the Baltimore Colts, and if she failed he supposedly was gonna call the wedding off.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:04 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
So, where's the ring? Well, ya gotta say "yes" first - and then I'll hit the warehouse club and get a case of Cracker Jacks.
Wait, no, that wouldn't possibly be good enough!
...but it would be baseball related at least!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:13 AM
Jewelry doesn't mean much to me, anyway, so that would suit me just fine.
What a cute theme! A baseball wedding!
Wonder if CS would mind a change of plans...I could be his planner.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:17 AM
I see how it is... no "yes" still...
(At least I don't apply pressure, huh?
)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:22 AM
YES...you do apply pressure. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:25 AM
Sweet!!
You take care of the announcements...
I'll be busy trying to get Roger, Andy, Willy and company (incl JD, Miggy, and that "boy" from The Sandlot) into the wedding party!
On second thought, maybe you'd have much better luck than I would!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:32 AM
Uh, I don't know what just happened here, but I think I'll go with it, considering the possible guest list...
But how do we assure we don't ditch each other for one of them?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:40 AM
I'd like to call it an "open" marriage... don't really need to get into the details in public, tho!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:48 AM
You're not much on commitment, are you? :p Well, you're committed to getting everything (everyone) you want.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:52 AM
Hey, I was only thinking of you! I wouldn't deny you of your Willy if the opportunity arose! I commit to your happiness!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 07:59 AM
Can we get back to business here, please? :rolleyes:
Here are tomorrow's betting lines for the games that we have our pitchers in (For some reason they don't have a line posted on the Dodgers, but that
usually indicates that one of the pitchers isn't definite):
Boston -400 Schilling (DB, JL, SC)
Tampa Bay +320
-
Mets -170 Glavine (CC, DC, GG)
Florida +150
-
Houston -120 Rodriguez (TM)
Pittsburgh Even
-
Detroit -170 Verlander (PL)
Cleveland +150
-
Others of Interest:
-
Oakland -130 Zito
Texas +110
-
White Sox -180 Contreras
Toronto +160
BTW..... If you're betting on the individual games, -400, meaning you have to lay 4-1, is a ridiculous line for a baseball game, IMO.
You have to win four out of five bets just to break even. :rolleyes:
Yesterday, the Yankees were -360 against Kansas City and they lost.
Also, interestingly, the White Sox with Contreras are the second heaviest favorite tomorrow and none of us took them.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 08:04 AM
You have a way with words, JG.
Sorry to say, I have to get to bed...3 AM unfortunately won't work every night.
Besides, I've got a wedding to plan. :p
-----
Sorry for veering off topic, Plaw...
I considered CWS, but (jinxes aside!) they've screwed me over far too many times. Okay, maybe this
is my superstitious side talking, but I was afraid. Mets might not work out any better, but I guess we'll see soon enough.
Good night, guys!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 08:07 AM
You can go off-topic anytime, GG.
G'night....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 08:12 AM
G'night, sweetheart!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 08:24 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
G'night, sweetheart! Awww.......
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 08:28 AM
Not YOU!
Oh, okay... g'night to the crafty finagling Commish!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 09:16 AM
I resemble that remark
Another knife to my heart
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 10:06 AM
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables(Note: I'm dropping LZ from the standings until - if and when - she starts playing again)
DB 2587 NYM (13) 57 2644 Bos Schilling 8-2 3.80
TM 2493 NYM (13) 30 2523 Hou Rodriguez 7-3 3.88
JL 2452 NYM (13) 43 2495 Bos
PL 2407 SaF (32) 62 2469 Det Verlander 6-3 2.70
JG 2335 SaF (32) 52 2387 LAD Lowe 5-5 3.08
CC 2243 NYM (13) 60 2303 NYM Glavine 8-2 2.48
DC 2129 NYM (13) 45 2174 NYM
GG 1997 Ari (29) 54 2051 NYM
SC 1973 NYM (13) 45 2018 Bos
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 09:00 PM
Saturday's Scores (Note: I'm dropping LZ from the standings until - if and when - she starts playing again)
About time. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 09:40 PM
By plaw:
(Note: I'm dropping LZ from the standings until - if and when - she starts playing again)
Originally posted by J Geoff:
About time. :p That was mean.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/27/06 11:04 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
That was mean. Mean towards whom?
When
I took her off, you put her back on. That was meaner. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 06:47 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Mean towards whom? To LZ
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 09:28 AM
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's probables
DB 2644 Bos (20) 52 2696 Min Santana 6-4 3.42
TM 2523 Hou (19) 38 2561 Min
JL 2495 Bos (20) 59 2554 Bos Wakefield 4-6 4.57
PL 2469 Det (25) 62 2531 Min
JG 2387 LAD (25) 65 2452 Min
CC 2303 NYM (21) 47 2350 StL Mulder 8-2 3.74
DC 2174 NYM (21) 38 2212 Atl Smoltz 5-5 3.12
GG 2051 NYM (21) 38 2089 Atl
SC 2018 Bos (20) 42 2060 MinThe battle is now for second place....
A 135 point lead seems fairly safe... for the moment at least....
I would have lost my shirt if I would have made a bet at the beginning of the season on how many days TM would've missed by now....
JL didn't play today, but has a full team out there...was it accidental or was he unavailable and planning ahead....?
Smoltz is
exactly the kind of pitcher to use on a day when Santana is pitching and you want to go "unpredictable", not a guy like Chacin (just my .02 of course)....
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 09:50 AM
Here's a thought which suggested itself to me because of JL's DNP today but his full team nonetheless:
I was thinking about the day I got zero points for being over the cap, and here's something that makes no sense:
If someone misses the day entirely, which among the people in our league who play this game competitively is a rare occurance, they still get whatever points they manage to get from whoever is still active on their roster from the day before.
Generally, in other words, at least they get something.
But if someone plays but simply accidentally goes over the cap, then they get nothing for the day.
What strikes me is that I regard missing a day (unless it's planned and you've picked the best "two day team" that you can) a much more serious "offense" - one that should have a greater impact on your chances of winning - than accidentally being over the cap, yet the penalty for being over the cap is much greater.
Just a thought......
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 09:51 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's probables
SC 2018 Bos (20) 42 2060 Bos
Your brain is going soft from all that nonsense you play in the Games Forum.... I picked MN as my pitching staff today.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 09:55 AM
My brain is going soft just fine on it's own
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 09:58 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I guess I'm just used to you picking Boston....
Hey, I resemble that remark!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 04:46 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Here's a thought which suggested itself to me because of JL's DNP today but his full team nonetheless:
First off, it's a weekend - every team plays on weekends. :p
Then whined by plawrence:
If someone misses the day entirely, ...they still get whatever points they manage to get from whoever is still active on their roster from the day before.
But if someone plays but simply accidentally goes over the cap, then they get nothing for the day.
As it should be. The rules state that you cannot go over the cap; however, the rules do not state that you have to change your lineup every day.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 04:56 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
JL didn't play today, but has a full team out there...was it accidental or was he unavailable and planning ahead....?
I was in A/C Saturday, and didn't get home until 5AM.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 05:10 PM
Yeah, I know what the rules say, and the fact that this is the wekend has nothing to do with my point except reinforce it somewhat, since not only do teams always play on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, but virtually almost always on Tuesday and Wednesday as well, making five days out of seven that someone can commit the horrendous mistake of not changing their team ang getting away with it.
In fact, with a little bit of luck, they could theoretically do
better than they would have had they
changed their team.
My point is that the way
we play, a style in which changing your team every day is almost imperative if you want to maximize your score, I find it to be somewhat of an anomaly that the penalty for
not changing your team is less than the penalty for being over the cap.
I know what the rules say and I'm not suggesting that they be changed because obviously you could not have a rule which states that you
must change your team every day - that's what makes it an anomaly to me.
Forget the rules for a moment (yeah, I know, you can't "forget" the rules.....)
If you were going to make one mistake during the course of the season, which mistake would you prefer to make?
Being over the cap, or forgetting to change your team?
I think that
anyone in our league would prefer making the latter mistake to the former, which means that they consider the former mistake to be the worse mistake of the two, which to my way of thinking means that the penalty for that mistake should be greater.
Maybe this is more of a conundrum than an anomaly
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 05:16 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
If you were going to make one mistake during the course of the season, which mistake would you prefer to make?
Being over the cap, or forgetting to change your team?
I think that anyone in our league would prefer making the latter mistake to the former, which means that they consider the former mistake to be the worse mistake of the two, which to my way of thinking means that the penalty for that mistake should be greater.
Did you just disprove your original point?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 05:44 PM
Did I? How?
Don't confuse me now.....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 05:57 PM
1) Being over the cap, or 2) forgetting to change your team?
I think that anyone in our league would prefer making the latter mistake [2] to the former [1], which means that they consider the former mistake [1] to be the worse mistake of the two, which to my way of thinking means that the penalty for that mistake [1] should be greater.
Right. The penalty for being over the cap IS much greater. As it should be.
Here's the solution: Don't go over the cap. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 06:02 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Did I? How?
Don't confuse me now.....
I thought your original point was that the greater mistake was missing a day, not going over the cap.
By saying the following...
If you were going to make one mistake during the course of the season, which mistake would you prefer to make?
Being over the cap, or forgetting to change your team?
I think that anyone in our league would prefer making the latter mistake to the former, which means that they consider the former mistake to be the worse mistake of the two, which to my way of thinking means that the penalty for that mistake should be greater.
... it appears you are saying that the greater mistake is going over the cap.
I may have misunderstood.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 06:23 PM
OK....I see what you guys are saying.
My mistake. I've got myself confused here.
Lemme try it from this angle:
Here's what I said in my first post about this:
What strikes me is that I regard missing a day (unless it's planned and you've picked the best "two day team" that you can) a much more serious "offense" - one that should have a greater impact on your chances of winning - than accidentally being over the cap, yet the penalty for being over the cap is much greater.I guess what I mean is that
IMO missing the day (unless it's intentional)
should be the worse mistake from the POV of - this is where I run into trouble because I don't know exactly how to label it - let's call it "gamesmanship".
I dunno...maybe being over the cap is a "stupider" mistake to make or something.....
Changing your team every day is such an
important part of the way we play that we've always regarded it as the most serious mistake you could make.....
As I say....I can't really explain
why I think missing a day is the more serious mistake, I just think that it is, or
should be.
But it isn't, because you define the seriousness of the mistake by its penalty, and the penalty for being over the cap is greater.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 06:56 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] Mean towards whom? To LZ [/b][/quote]:( Boooooo.
Anyway, I set my roster for tomorrow. I told you guys this day would come!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 07:03 PM
Welcome back Zia! School done?
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 07:07 PM
Not quite yet, I've got a couple more weeks. But I had some time this morning and thought, hey, why not?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] Mean towards whom? To LZ [/b][/quote]:( Boooooo.
Anyway, I set my roster for tomorrow. I told you guys this day would come! [/b][/quote]I hope it's JG that you're booing and not me.
The one or two days that he posted the scores it was
he who left you out, and when I, after patiently including you day after day, finally announced that I wasn't gonna post your scores any more, it was
he who made that incredibly mean "It's about time" comment.
(Just so we're clear on all of this.)
So what happens now?
You changed your team and you're gonna forget it for another four weeks?
:rolleyes:
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 10:03 PM
Yeah, the boo was for JG. And no, surely not 4 weeks...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 10:29 PM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
....no, surely not 4 weeks.... Well, let's see....
The last time you changed your team was on Wednesday, April 26th.....
About 4 1/2 weeks ago :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/28/06 11:51 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Looks to me like....
Smoltz is exactly the kind of pitcher to use on a day when Santana is pitching and you want to go "unpredictable", not a guy like Chacin (just my .02 of course)....
Goes to show 'ya what I know
:rolleyes:
However, on the other hand....
Originally posted by plawrence:
In fact, with a little bit of luck, they could theoretically do better (not changing their team) than they would have had they changed their team.
How about it JL?
Was it accidental or intentional?
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 12:20 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
How about it JL?
Was it accidental or intentional?
Look back about 12 posts.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 12:27 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I, after patiently including you day after day, finally announced that I wasn't gonna post your scores any more, it was he who made that incredibly mean "It's about time" comment.
What I meant by that comment, which was directed at Plaw, was that it was about time he saw that I was right/justified in doing the same thing he ended up doing. Or something like that. :p
Not a knock on the lovely Zia.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 01:21 AM
Nice recovery :p
.
Sorta like how I'm gonna feel, I guess, when you stop giving me an argument every time I say something here.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] How about it JL?
Was it accidental or intentional?
Look back about 12 posts.
[/b][/quote]Oh.....somehow I missed that one.
You couldn't do that on a Sunday? :p
(The Borgata has a 24-hour "Business Center", BTW)
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 02:07 AM
I didn't plan on being there all night. It just happened.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 02:42 AM
Gee...
that never happened to
me.
I
always leave
exactly when I'm supposed to
(Yeah, right :rolleyes:
)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 11:19 AM
Sunday's Scores & Monday's ProbablesI added another stat category to the Probable Pitcher's record - call it "Raw Fantasy Points Per Game" (RFPPG).
What it is is the average number of FPs per start
excluding the five points that a pitching
staff gets for the win.
We've talked about this (that's why in the Yahoo game you only get credit for the points by the SP), and all at one time or another have expressed the sentiment that a pitcher's W-L record is, to a certain extent, part of a team effort rather than an individual one.
Since we all choose a PS every day based pretty strictly (I believe) on who the SP is, the RFPPG average tells us how many points the SP has earned per game strictly thru his own efforts.
If you want to know his total FPPG average, just multiply his RFPPF total by the number of starts he has (obtainable from the first stat in his line, his team's W-L record in games he has started), add in 5 points for each team win, and then divide by his number of starts (his team's total W-L record in games he has started).
Just for a basis of comparison, here are the leaders as of this morning in RFPPG:
Sabathia 17.0
Webb 16.5
Pedro 16.4
Contreras 14.8
Mussina 14.2
DB 2696 Min (20) 37 2733 Oak Haren 5-5 3.91 9.3
TM 2561 Min (20) 38 2599 SaF Morris 3-7 5.49 1.2
JL 2554 Bos (26) 42 2596 Oak
PL 2531 Min (20) 40 2571 Tor Halladay 8-1 2.77 11.8
JG 2452 Min (20) 38 2490 Oak
CC 2350 StL (-22) -10 2340 Tor
DC 2212 Atl (-10) 13 2225 LAD Penny 6-4 2.31 10.6
GG 2089 Atl (-10) 12 2101 Tor
SC 2060 Min (20) 35 2095 LAA Lackey 4-6 3.50 9.5
LZ 1779 Bos (26) 41 1820 LAD
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 02:14 PM
ooh and I almost went with the A's pitching staff. now I regret changing it.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 02:55 PM
But how did you ever come up with picking Morris, TM?
I'm happy that you did, of course; He's been absolutely terrible.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/29/06 04:40 PM
even I don't know how did I come up with Morris
I just hope I can end my downfall, starting tomorrow! (except I'm having even more trouble picking a PS)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 07:52 AM
From The Department Of Useless Statistics I haven't updated the pitching and hitting stats since the week that ended Sunday, May 7th.
I know everyone has missed them - I can tell from all of the posts asking where they were and wondering when I was gonna post the new ones. :rolleyes:
So....
Here's where we stood on the Morning of Monday, May 8th:
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
DB 26-11 3.66 622 1147 535 .466 1049 1671
TM 27-10 3.36 671 1101 485 .441 980 1651
PL 25-12 3.85 611 1142 503 .440 1011 1622
CC 22-16 3.74 574 1115 526 .472 1046 1620
JL 22-15 3.55 625 1169 500 .428 990 1615
GG 22-16 3.03 464 1127 543 .482 1103 1567
JG 21-18 4.09 507 1121 524 .467 1052 1559
DC 25-12 3.63 583 1058 480 .454 951 1534
SC 19-14 4.11 463 983 434 .442 868 1331
LZ 20-12 4.64 348 914 401 .439 846 1194 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
DB 5-2 2.87 157 206 119 .578 223 380
JL 4-3 3.66 116 233 116 .498 216 332
TM 5-2 2.00 179 204 73 .358 143 322
SC 1-6 5.91 45 205 108 .527 204 249
JG 3-4 4.38 88 228 83 .364 149 237
CC 3-4 3.94 85 224 73 .326 145 230
DC 3-4 4.74 73 217 82 .378 153 226
PL 4-3 4.06 88 152 69 .454 134 222
LZ 2-2 5.34 36 184 72 .391 146 182
GG 2-4 6.27 27 216 80 .370 150 177 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
TM 7-0 2.78 161 214 108 .505 214 375
PL 5-2 3.14 143 199 107 .538 224 367
JL 4-3 3.39 128 229 110 .480 212 340
JG 4-3 2.95 138 217 105 .484 199 337
DB 5-2 3.68 127 210 89 .424 173 300
CC 4-3 3.71 98 204 92 .451 198 296
SC 4-3 4.65 78 221 104 .471 195 273
LZ 4-2 4.50 72 196 91 .464 165 237
DC 4-3 5.18 50 208 92 .442 169 219
GG 1-6 7.57 (-32) 222 99 .446 178 146 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
-
PL 7-0 1.94 165 201 98 .488 223 388
DB 5-2 2.67 168 224 102 .455 214 382
JG 7-0 2.91 145 193 100 .518 212 357
JL 4-3 4.65 95 220 101 .459 214 309
TM 4-3 4.41 92 209 79 .378 159 251
DC 5-2 5.29 58 212 94 .443 188 246
SC 5-2 4.35 83 210 80 .381 159 242
GG 6-1 4.92 76 199 74 .372 135 211
LZ 5-2 4.00 93 171 61 .357 114 207
CC 4-3 6.34 25 222 100 .450 169 194 Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts. ABs TBs Slug% Pts. Total
-
DB 41-17 3.45 1074 1787 845 .473 1659 2733
TM 43-15 3.27 1103 1728 744 .431 1496 2599
JL 34-24 3.67 964 1851 827 .447 1632 2596
PL 41-17 3.55 1007 1694 777 .459 1592 2571
JG 35-25 3.84 878 1759 812 .462 1612 2490
CC 33-26 4.06 782 1765 791 .448 1558 2340
DC 37-21 4.16 764 1695 748 .441 1461 2225
GG 31-27 4.84 535 1764 796 .451 1566 2101
SC 29-25 4.42 669 1619 726 .448 1426 2095
LZ 31-18 4.58 549 1464 625 .427 1271 1820
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 08:57 AM
Well, Plaw, you know how much I normally appreciate your stats, but a quick glance at these recent ones will tell you why I wasn't exactly making any requests.
Zia and I have decided to post our lineup. No, not our official lineup - do you really think we'd let any of our secrets out?! Then, you guys might jump ahead of us in the standings or something. :p
Instead, this is, I suppose you could say, an "alternative lineup." We chose to work together to develop a team - mostly intended for fun, as it doesn't follow the salary cap, but a serious lineup nonetheless. Though we feel we've touched upon perfection, we'd love to hear feedback on it from all of you. It was only through very thorough research that we came up with this masterpiece:
C - Brad Ausmus
1B - Derrek Lee
2B - Jeff Kent
3B - Alex Rodriguez
SS - Felipe Lopez
LF - Orlando Palmeiro
CF - Carlos Beltran
RF - Shawn Green
P - Mike Mussina
The only spot missing is the DH - any suggestions that match our strategy?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 10:53 AM
Monday's Scores & Tuesday's Probables(
Reposted from yesterday:)
I added another stat category to the Probable Pitcher's record - call it "Raw Fantasy Points Per Game" (RFPPG).
What it is is the average number of FPs per start
excluding the five points that a pitching
staff gets for the win.
We've talked about this (that's why in the Yahoo game you only get credit for the points by the SP), and all at one time or another have expressed the sentiment that a pitcher's W-L record is, to a certain extent, part of a team effort rather than an individual one.
Since we all choose a PS every day based pretty strictly (I believe) on who the SP is, the RFPPG average tells us how many points the SP has earned per game strictly thru his own efforts.
If you want to know his total FPPG average, just multiply his RFPPF total by the number of starts he has (obtainable from the first stat in his line, his team's W-L record in games he has started), add in 5 points for each team win, and then divide by his number of starts (his team's total W-L record in games he has started).
Just for a basis of comparison, here are the leaders as of this morning in RFPPG:
Sabathia 17.0
Webb 16.5
Pedro 16.4
Contreras 14.8
Mussina 14.2
------------
Some day for pitching yesterday.
:rolleyes:
Only SC (32) with a decent score....
DB 2733 Oak (05) 21 2754 Cle Sabathia 4-2 1.52 17.0
TM 2599 SaF (03) 46 2645 Cle
JL 2596 Oak (05) 41 2637 Oak Halsey 1-4 4.61 2.2
PL 2571 Tor (09) 24 2595 Cle
JG 2490 Oak (05) 29 2519 Cle
CC 2340 Tor (09) 41 2381 Bos Beckett 7-3 3.80 8.8
DC 2225 LAD (07) 36 2261 Phi Myers 6-4 2.86 10.2
GG 2101 Tor (09) 40 2141 CWS Buehrle 8-2 2.62 9.0
SC 2095 LAA (32) 48 2143 Bos
LZ 1820 LAD (07) 32 1852 LAD Sele 3-1 1.69 13.5
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 01:17 PM
SC, what made you pick LAA pitching staff? :p
Don Cardi
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
SC, what made you pick LAA pitching staff?
It was a no-brainer, to me, at least. I knew they'd do well. Why'd you go with the Dodgers??
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 01:52 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I added another stat category to the Probable Pitcher's record - call it "Raw Fantasy Points Per Game" (RFPPG).
What it is is the average number of FPs per start [b]excluding the five points that a pitching staff gets for the win.
Since we all choose a PS every day based pretty strictly (I believe) on who the SP is, the RFPPG average tells us how many points the SP has earned per game strictly thru his own efforts.
[/b]
Thats not entirely true. A SP also gets points for each inning pitched. Thus, you'd have to adjust your new stat to reflect that as well.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 02:53 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[b] SC, what made you pick LAA pitching staff?
It was a no-brainer, to me, at least. I knew they'd do well. Why'd you go with the Dodgers??
[/b][/quote]Well actually, I had planned on picking the Angels, and I must have saw the LA part and mistakenly clicked on the
LAD thinking that I was picking the LAA!
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 03:32 PM
JL 2596 Oak (05) 41 2637 Oak Halsey 1-4 4.61 2.2
AC again?
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 04:03 PM
No. I figure there's no chance of the A's losing two in a row to the Royals.
....The A's are the biggest favorite today.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 06:13 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]I added another stat category to the Probable Pitcher's record - call it "Raw Fantasy Points Per Game" (RFPPG).
What it is is the average number of FPs per start [b]excluding the five points that a pitching staff gets for the win.
Since we all choose a PS every day based pretty strictly (I believe) on who the SP is, the RFPPG average tells us how many points the SP has earned per game strictly thru his own efforts.
[/b]
Thats not entirely true. A SP also gets points for each inning pitched. Thus, you'd have to adjust your new stat to reflect that as well. [/b][/quote]It does include innings pitched.
It's innings pitched x 3 + Strikeouts, minus earned runs allowed x 3 + walks allowed and hits allowed.
or
3(IP) + Ks - ER(3) + BBs + Hits
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
....The A's are the biggest favorite today.
Yeah....my book has them at -290.
Phils are -220 and Boston is -210.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/30/06 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Well actually, I had planned on picking the Angels, and I must have saw the LA part and mistakenly clicked on the
LAD thinking that I was picking the LAA! Another reason why they should have stuck with just "Anaheim," those idiots. :rolleyes:
They're not even
close to L.A., and yet now there's people mixing them up.
Hey, I have a question for any of you... are there any other teams who go by their team name
followed by their city, like "of _____"? For sure I know there's no other team who goes by the name of
another city, followed by their own city. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 03:25 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Just Lou:
[b]....The A's are the biggest favorite today.
Yeah....my book has them at -290.
[/b][/quote]So much for that strategy. :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 06:50 AM
This came up the first time JG posted real life betting lines....
While the tream with the best chance of winning the game theoretically gives you the best chance of picking up the 5 points for the win, it is far from necessarily the best choice to get you the most pitching points in total.
Any game with the Yankees at home against a team like KC or Baltimore with a pitcher other than Mussina is a good example of that.
As far as mediocre teams like Oakland go, they don't ever deserve to be such big faves against anyone, IMO, especially with a guy like Halsey pitching.
At most, that game should have been maybe -240 or -260.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 08:07 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
As far as mediocre teams like Oakland go, they don't ever deserve to be such big faves against anyone, IMO, especially with a guy like Halsey pitching.
At most, that game should have been maybe -240 or -260.
The final line (at least with my source) was -220... and their "estimated line after detailed analysis" was -172 (Final Score: KC 8, OAK 7)
As for CLE (Sabathia) the line was only -130... and their estimated line actually put them at +134 (Final Score: CLE 4, CWS 3)
So yeah... it could be a helpful guideline to see who's favored, but as we all know,
anything can happen in baseball! Like Glaus & Wells hitting 5 HRs combined tonight.
Or Lance Freakin' Niekro hitting 2 HRs upon returning from the DL...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 08:35 AM
The Cleveland line was a reflection on who the oppostion was and who was pitching for them, too, remember: The White Sox with Buehrle.
As far as "helpful guidelines to see who's favored" goes, remember this;
A "line" is not designed to measure the chances of one team or anoher winning the game.
Rather, it's designed to attract an equal amount of wagering on each side.
I find, for example (and the so-called "experts" would agree with me here), that the line on certain "public" teams - the Yankees or Braves in baseball, the Cowboys in football, or the Lakers in basketball, for example - is generally higher than I think it should be.
Also, since such a large amount of betting is generated from NYC, when the local teams are good the lines on their games are usually a bit too high as well.
Finally, keep this is mind:
Another way to look at it, and perhaps a more accurate way, is from the POV of the underdog.
Because while in the Oak-KC game for example, KC had Oakland as the -290 favorite, you don't get +290 if you bet on KC, you only get +240 or +250 or so, so the "real" line, or the true estimated chance of a team winning lies somewhere in the middle.
I can explain what I mean by that if you are really interested, but spare me if you're not.
Also, BTW, since I've been doing some real-life wagering on baseball myself lately, I'm curious to know where the "estimated line after detailed analysis" comes from and exactly what it's supposed to mean (if you care to share).
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 11:13 AM
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables
DB 2754 Cle (24) 39 2793 Atl Hudson 8-3 4.13 6.5
TM 2645 Cle (24) 44 2689 NYM Martinez 6-4 2.79 16.4
JL 2637 Oak (-7) 27 2664 Fla Johnson 3-2 1.52 14.2
PL 2595 Cle (24) 66 2661 SaF Schmidt 6-4 2.78 12.8
JG 2519 Cle (24) 50 2569 SaF
CC 2381 Bos (-7) 06 2387 NYY Mussina 7-4 2.72 13.3
DC 2261 Phi (28) 54 2315 NYM
SC 2143 Bos (-7) 28 2171 NYM
GG 2141 CWS (04) 27 2168 NYM
LZ 1852 LAD (16) 65 1917 LAD Tomko 6-4 3.86 6.7
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 03:13 PM
wow what's wrong with Pedro today? okay, my team sucks today and I'm worried. I changed it a lot in the last time because I got one day late in picking the Blue Jays (I had both Glaus and Wells 'cause I thought they were gonna explode today).
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 04:49 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
since I've been doing some real-life wagering on baseball myself lately, I'm curious to know where the "estimated line after detailed analysis" comes from and exactly what it's supposed to mean (if you care to share).
I was hesitant to reveal my source, but I suppose it doesn't really matter since it doesn't help much in most fantasy games. But since you're betting real money, I think you should look at it...
here (There are other sites that use the same StatFox data, but this one is nice and easy to read). Also notice the other sports
You'll see the current lines for the day, but if you click on the Report, you'll see TONS of stats (for someone like you, it'd replace Viagra!
) including their "Power Rating Line" which takes all those stats in consideration, to give a somewhat better estimate.
You may've seen StatFox before, but if you haven't... you're welcome.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 05:00 PM
oh, right.
From CBSsportline;
Mets RHP Pedro Martinez threw in the bullpen Monday and remains in line to start Wednesday against Arizona. Martinez complained of stiffness in his upper right hip after Friday's start. With a day off Thursday, it's possible the Mets could push him back to start Friday against San Francisco. If that happens, LHP Tom Glavine would also be moved back a day.
(Updated 05/30/2006).
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 05:07 PM
Interesting....
They give you the line on the home team, so in the Pittsburgh game for example, while it says that Pitts is +130, you don't know what the price is on the favorite.
So all of those times you've been posting the highest priced favorite, there might have been some that were an even higher price, but it wouldn't have shown because they were the visiting team.
Their adjusted line here is not worth much without knowing exactly how they compute it, but they do provide some useful information there which I look at already; mainly a teams's record against lefty or righty SPs, and their record on grass fields as opposed to artifical surfaces.
These are "splits" which I believe can establish identifiable and useful trends:
Teams which do better against righty SPs, for example, probably are stronger hitting teams from the left side, so that trend may continue.
Same goes for the characteristics which make some teams better in artificial turf:
An emphasis on speed over power, or a better defensive infield, for example.
On the other hand, a team's reord on Wednesday vs. the other days of the week is fairly useless, I think.
And fear not; Not really any help there for the fantasy player.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 05:13 PM
BTW, if you want to see the betting lines on both the favorite
and the underdog, go
HERE Then click on "betting Lines", the "Major League Baseball".
Also, keep in mind that the above is a real betting site, so the lines are real - you can actually bet money in them.
The Fox Sports lines, while they are probably from a real betting source, are not "real" themselves, since Fox is not running a sports book.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 05:24 PM
Well, it's not Fox Sports, it's
StatFox ...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 06:24 PM
Yeah. I didn't notice that.
They
do, course, give the lines for the underdog as well, which they would have to do since it
is a betting site.
HERE they are; it's a different page..
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 06:50 PM
I suppose "Run Line" (which is either +1.5 or -1.5) is who you think will score 2+ runs more than the other team?
In the other game, upon looking at these spreads, I was kinda torn btwn starting Francis and/or Hensley -- both whom I have -- hopefully Hensley was the right choice today...
No, I probably wouldn't start either as my sole PS in this game Edited
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 06:53 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I was kinda torn btwn starting Francis and/or Hensley -- both whom I have -- hopefully Hensley was the right choice today...
Aren't you starting Schmidt?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 06:55 PM
He's in the wrong thread...he's talking Yahoo
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 06:59 PM
The "run line" is like a point spread.
Instead of laying, say 250 to win 100 on a big favorite, you can lay only, say 11-10, or 6-5, or 13-10, but they have to win by more than 2 runs.
If they win by exactly 2 runs, it's "no bet" (a "push"). If the win by less than 2 runs, or lose the game outright, you lose the bet.
If you want the underdog, instead of getting odds of, say, 2 to 1, you get 1 1/2 runs added to their score, so if they win the game outright or lose by only one run, you win your bet.
But remember...you're not getting the fat 2-1 odds anymore. You're now laying 11-10, or getting only even money or something.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:04 PM
Maybe we should combine both games into one thread?
There are 7 of us playing both games.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:07 PM
Ahh, this was always the chit-chat thread of the two... I'll just try to be clearer next time...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:08 PM
It was clear to me....I knew what you meant.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:17 PM
Since I'm so far down the totem pole in the Yahoo game, I have no idea who you guys have on your team.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:20 PM
You must know who I have -- you sent me like five trade offers the last week or so
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:23 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why you haven't accepted any of them. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:25 PM
:rolleyes:
Are you kidding?
Every one I rejected, I wrote an essay for you on why.
Especially that last one...I don't know why you even bothered making it.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:28 PM
Wrong thread. :p
I thought Plaw was bad, but Douche's trade requests are just crazy! Zambrano AND Schmidt?? Loco I say!! :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:31 PM
^
^
^
^
He started it :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:32 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
:rolleyes:
Are you kidding?
Every one I rejected, I wrote an essay for you on why.
Especially that last one...I don't know why you even bothered making it. There's been a disconnect for years between the Yahoo fantasy games and my email account. I never get these types of messages.
So if the answer to why I shouldn't have even bothered trying the last one is found in one of your essays, I never got it.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:33 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I thought Plaw was bad, but Douche's trade requests are just crazy! Zambrano AND Schmidt?? Loco I say!! :p Crazy?! I always make money for my partners.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
if the answer to why I shouldn't have even bothered trying the last one is found in one of your essays, I never got it. It was in that little box they give you for comments. You don't get those messages?
I remember the last one, though, where you offered me Howard I think.
I said I had Dunn for 1B and Hafner for Util, and if I put Dunn in LF, then I had no where to put Burrell, so Howard did me absolutely no good.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:44 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
It was in that little box they give you for comments. You don't get those messages?
Those are sent to your email account, right? I never get those, despite having my options configured correctly.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 07:45 PM
I'm not sure if they go to your email or not; I don't think I ever got one.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 05/31/06 11:19 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I thought Plaw was bad, but Douche's trade requests are just crazy! Zambrano AND Schmidt?? Loco I say!! :p I must say he tried to take advantage of me too
well you can't blame a man for trying.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 12:10 AM
A rain delay in the New York game.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 02:33 AM
I think whomever picked NYM as their PS will be very happy when reading the points tomorrow.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 03:02 AM
Originally posted by SC:
I think whomever picked NYM as their PS will be very happy when reading the points tomorrow.
Guess I'm not the Pedro jinx I thought I was!
Actually, I think TM is responsible for this...definite anti-jinx material a page back.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 10:42 AM
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's ProbablesThe Mets 47 yesterday was the highest PS score of the seaon.
DB 2793 Atl (24) 38 2831 Oak Zito 5-6 3.16 9.0
TM 2689 NYM (47) 74 2763 TaB Kazmir 8-3 2.86 11.2
PL^ 2661 SaF (35) 63 2724 Oak
JL 2664 Fla (00) 33 2697 Oak
JG 2569 SaF (35) 59 2628 Oak
CC 2387 NYY (31) 41 2428 LAD Lowe 6-5 2.90 9.3
DC 2315 NYM (47) 61 2376 CWS Contreras 5-3 1.83 14.8
SC 2171 NYM (47) 72 2243 CWS
GG 2168 NYM (47) 69 2237 CWS
LZ 1917 LAD (01) 25 1942 Cle Byrd 6-4 5.22 3.0
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 01:30 PM
[Whine Alert]
My offense is offensive.
[/Whine Alert]
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 01:40 PM
Mine must have went on vacation cause hardly anyone showed up.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 02:27 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[quote]Originally posted by SC:
[b] I think whomever picked NYM as their PS will be very happy when reading the points tomorrow.
Guess I'm not the Pedro jinx I thought I was!
Actually, I think TM is responsible for this...definite anti-jinx material a page back.
[/b][/quote]yeah that worked pretty well. but I swear I didn't even think about anti-jinx, I was
really worried about my team.
and now,
again I have a lonely PS. and today I'm way more confident on it. although, my offense, today I guarantee it is calamity-prone.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[Whine Alert]
My offense is offensive.
[/Whine Alert] [windbag alert]
You had a 239 point lead on me on the morning of 5/17.
Down to 107 points this morning.
[/windbag alert]
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 03:57 PM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:05 PM
Oh....like you didn't notice? :rolleyes:
Like you're not at all worried yet? :rolleyes:
Like you think you have this locked up already? :rolleyes:
Ha!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:06 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Like you think you have this locked up already? :rolleyes:
No, I never said I have this thing locked up. Far from it - TM is still on my tail and you're on a roll.
Long way to go...
But still...
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:10 PM
You trying to tell me you're more worried about TM catching you? :rolleyes:
Ha!
You know who to fear here..... :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:15 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
You trying to tell me you're more worried about TM catching you? :rolleyes:
TM... I think Plaw just called you out and said you're no one to fear. You gonna take that from him? :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:27 PM
TM's a pimp - he could never outscore DB or PL...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
TM... I think Plaw just called you out and said you're no one to fear. You gonna take that from him? :p [/QB][/QUOTE]
Maybe they should fear
you.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:31 PM
TM's team are animals anway. so let them lose their games!
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 04:35 PM
TM - I never wanted this for you. I work ten minutes every night, I don't apologize, to take care of my fantasy team. And I refused -- to be a fool -- dancing on the string, held by PL, JL, JG -- GBB fantasy bigshots. I don't apologize -- that's my life -- but I thought that -- that when it was your time -- that -- that you would be the one to hold the strings. 1st Place TM. Uber King TM, or something...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 05:35 PM
Hey, DB....
Is it my imagination, or does Chad Moeller look a little bit like you?
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 05:39 PM
PL, JL, JG? I am the hunted one! You think too much of me. I'm not that clever. And I don't want no truce, after all, this game is just dumb luck
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 10:04 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Hey, DB....
Is it my imagination, or does Chad Moeller look a little bit like you?
Someone said this in the ladies thread. Was it you, plaw?
I'll look like the dude if it's a good thing.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 10:09 PM
Was it me? I don't remember, but I seldom read that thread.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 10:15 PM
I know it wasn't me. I don't see the resemblance.
Maybe it was Geoff? :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 10:29 PM
It was you, Plaw.
- and you stepped in with your comparison.
Wow, Plaw, you never run out of new stats to talk about, yet you manage a repeat of something mentioned in the ladies' thread...where conversation
never gets old! :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 10:31 PM
Hahaha.....old age
Once the memory starts to go.....
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/01/06 10:40 PM
Hey, don't feel bad - I've walked into a room and completely forgotten why I was there.
I've already got a bad memory, and I've still got a ways to go to hold on to whatever's left of it.
My mom always tells me that I only remember what I want to remember - anything regarding baseball, Astros, fantasy, movies, music, is always on my mind, but the "important stuff" is what I have to constantly be reminded of. Funny...I thought baseball
was important?
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 12:07 AM
come on let it rain in Baltimore. I'll take Kaz's 0.
Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]
Hey, DB....
Is it my imagination, or does Chad Moeller look a little bit like you?
Someone said this in the ladies thread. Was it you, plaw?
I'll look like the dude if it's a good thing.
[/b][/quote](Delurking) Actually, in the Ladies Thread, I said that you looked like Benjamin Bratt. MUCH better than Moeller!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
(Delurking) Actually, in the Ladies Thread, I said that you looked like Benjamin Bratt. MUCH better than Moeller!!
I think what I said then was if looking like the dude is a good thing, then I look like him.
SB - you know, you should really get into this game.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[Whine Alert]
My offense is offensive.
[/Whine Alert] Don't think I was out there
looking for this - I happened to run across it just now while updating the daily pitching and hitting stats for the week.
DB's offensive offense the last 4 days:
.257 Slugging % (29 TBs in 113 ABs)
17, 16, 15, and 14 points the last four days
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 12:51 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Don't think I was out there looking for this...
Like you mean the
italics. :p
Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 12:59 AM
Oh, DS, if I only could!! But I'm too ashamed to admit when I'm confused (which is like ALWAYS with this game)
. Plaw promised to take me under his wing, but I know that he'll secretly make fun of me.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 01:12 AM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 02:45 AM
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
Plaw promised to take me under his wing, but I know that he'll secretly make fun of me.
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
yeah he does that.....
I resemble
both of those remarks
I'm extremely helpful to new players, and
especially if they are chicks.
Why, just ask GG....or LZ....or CC
And you, TM....
What hav I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully?
Just for that, I may not play next year.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 02:46 AM
Oh, Benjamin Bratt! Great pick, SB!
Plaw wouldn't make fun of you in private - he'd make fun of you in public, just like he does for everyone else.
Seriously though, you know already that I'd love for you to join. Do it!!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 09:44 AM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables
DB 2831 Oak (34) 57 2888 Min Santana 7-4 3.46 12.2
PL^ 2724 Oak (34) 76 2800 Min
TM 2763 TaB (05) 25 2788 Min
JL 2697 Oak (34) 61 2758 Min
JG 2628 Oak (34) 72 2700 Min
CC 2428 LAD (21) 26 2454 Min
DC 2376 CWS (-24) 03 2379 CWS Garland 6-4 5.40 -.6
SC 2243 CWS (-24) 01 2244 Bos Schilling 9-2 3.93 10.0
GG 2237 CWS (-24) -7 2230 Min
LZ 1942 Cle (00) 48 1990 Cle Johnson 4-6 5.80 -1.3
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 11:00 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Why, just ask GG....or LZ....or CC
No, I just piss him off.
I think I'd rather be picked on.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 02:48 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
And you, TM....
What hav I ever done to make you treat me so disrespectfully?
Just for that, I may not play next year.
you passed me in the standings!
if you do not play, I will not play too, and then someone else isn't gonna play too, and then it will be the end of Gangster BB fantasy sports. think about that
now, let's get to the point:
what a sad day
if I knew everybody was taking Zito, I'd just take him too. I was not trying to gain ground with an unpredictable PS or anything. and I got outscored by 29 pts.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/02/06 02:51 PM
No one could fault you for taking Kazmir, TM. He's been one of the hottest pitchers in baseball.
Be thankful you didn't take the -24 White Sox.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 06:59 AM
Anybody here?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 08:05 AM
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables
DB 2888 Min (37) 54 2942 Atl
PL 2800 Min (37) 61 2861 Atl
TM 2788 Min (37) 67 2855 Atl
JL 2758 Min (37) 63 2821 Atl
JG 2700 Min (37) 50 2750 SaF
CC 2454 Min (37) 56 2510 NYM
DC 2379 CWS (10) 23 2402 LAD
GG^ 2230 Min (37) 69 2299 Min
SC 2244 Bos (30) 33 2277 NYY
LZ 1990 Cle (-13) 05 1995 Cle
-
Atl: Smoltz 6-5 3.58 9.5 & Thomson 4-6 3.67 4.7
SaF: Cain 3-6 5.26 3.9 & Wright 6-4 4.43 4.5
NYM: Glavine 9-2 2.59 12.4 & Hernandez 6-4 6.04 2.9
LAD: Penny 7-4 2.87 8.7
Min: Radke 4-7 7.01 -3.2
NYY: Johnson 7-5 5.37 3.3
Cle: Lee 5-6 5.46 2.3
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 08:59 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
SC 2244 Bos (30) 33 2277 NYY
Holy cannoli, Statman.... only THREE offensive points???
Personally, I find that offensive.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 09:58 AM
Doubleheaders Today Missed Atl-Ari, caught Mets-SF: CC
Question: Did JG miss the Atl-Ari DH? Were Andruw Jones and Orlando Hudson accidental picks because he didn't think that anyone from the Mets or SF was gonna play both games at 2B or in CF?
Missed 'Em All: DC, SC, GG, LZ
One of PL's Famous Charts: DB PL TM JL JG CC
-
C Pratt Pratt Mirabelli Snyder Castro LoDuca
1B LaRoche LaRoche LaRoche LaRoche Overbay Delgado
2B Giles Hudson Giles Hudson Hudson Durham
3B Tracy Tracy Wright Tracy Wright Wright
SS Renteria Renteria Renteria Counsell Vizquel Vizquel
LF Lngerhns Lanerhns Lngerhns Gonzalez Floyd Bonds
CF Jones Jones Jones Jones Jones Chavez
RF Francoer Francoer Francoer Francoer J. Jones Mench
DH Kubel Betamit Franco Betamit Finley Franco
DB: Pratt, Giles, Tracy,
Kubel PL: Pratt, Hudson, Tracy, Betamit
TM:
Mirabelli, Giles, Wright, Franco
JL:
Snyder, Hudson, Tracy,
Counsell,
Gonzalez, Betamit
JG:
Castro,
Overbay,
Floyd,
J. Jones,
Finley,
**SF PS** CC:
LoDuca,
Delgado,
Durham,
Bonds,
Chavez,
Mench,
**Mets PS** DC: Everyoe
SC: Everyone
GG: Everyone
LZ: Everyone
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 12:00 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Missed 'Em All: SC,
Not entirely true. I bypassed the Mets/SF DH figuring it'd be rained out today and the Ari/Atl DH was scheduled after I already left for work. Get your facts straight before you print them. Neal Pulcawer would never make a rookie mistake like this.
I'm going to the Harry Potter thread where they might appreciate me.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 12:08 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Missed 'Em All: SC
Originally posted by SC:
Not entirely true. I bypassed the Mets/SF DH figuring it'd be rained out today and the Ari/Atl DH was scheduled after I already left for work.
OK, I stand corrected. :rolleyes:
You only missed the Atl-Ari DH.
I agree with you about the Mets, BTW.
AAMOF, I'll be out on the terrace doing my rain dance in a couple of hours.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 01:19 PM
Well here's what happened to me.
I was waiting until late Thursday night to set my Friday game picks. Unfortunately when I got home, around 9:00 in that monsterous thunder and lightining storm, the power in my area was out, so obviously I was not able to access the internet on my home computer. Unfortunately the power did NOT return until the next morning, making it too late for me to set my lineup for that day.
Then last night, I went out straight from work and did not get home until the middle of the night, totally unaware, until this morning, that the Mets/Giants game had been PPD because of rain and that a Double header would be played today. Again making it too late for me to go in and make changes to the lineup that I had set Friday morning for Saturday's games.
This is my beef with this game. Why do other Fantasy Games allow you to set lineups up until game time, yet this one forces you to set your lineup, basically the day before, only giving you until 3:00 AM of game day?
You should be able to set your lineups up until game time. What happens if 2 hours before game time, a team anounces a change in starting pitchers, or decides to replace a player in their lineup? With this game you are screwed because being forced to submit your picks, basically the day before, the possibilty exists for you to be stuck with someone who was supposed to be a starter but was pulled at the last minute and re-placed with another player.
To me, being forced to submit your picks for a game, almost a day in advance, or even 10 hours in advance, is not playing a game as close to real life as possible.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 02:13 PM
We've discussed this every year, and pretty much all agree with you on that.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 03:57 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Question: Did JG miss the Atl-Ari DH? Were Andruw Jones and Orlando Hudson accidental picks because he didn't think that anyone from the Mets or SF was gonna play both games at 2B or in CF?
JG didn't miss the ATL/ARI DH, but got home very late last night, noticed it, and just tried to "upgrade" certain positions quickly so he could get back to his guest...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 05:01 PM
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 05:23 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by plawrence:
[qb]and just tried to "upgrade" certain positions quickly so he could get back to his guest... What kind of guest is more important then to make a player miss out on a dh? Details, details.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 05:52 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
JG....got home very late last night..... and just tried to "upgrade" certain positions quickly so he could get back to his guest...
Did he think he was gonna sneak that in and past us that easily?
I was just about to ask myself, when I saw your post there, CC.
So tell us JG....All those nights at the bar finally paid off?
After some twenty years of Ffriday night cruising, you finally got lucky?
Details....details.....
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
What kind of guest is more important then to make a player miss out on a dh? Details, details.
Must have been DMC!
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 06:19 PM
It's not like that at all, tho God knows I tried! :p
DMC... I mean,... my friend Meredith and I hang out and get a little goofy sometimes... Sorry to disappoint my fans!
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 06:48 PM
god I hate Chad Tracy.
in both games.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 08:08 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
It's not like that at all, tho God knows I tried!
So it's 20 years and you
still haven't gotten lucky?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 09:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
So it's 20 years and you still haven't gotten lucky?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/03/06 11:16 PM
Saturday's Scores
DB 2942 ATL (14)+(-28) 29 2971
PL 2861 ATL (14)+(-28) 40 2901
TM 2855 ATL (14)+(-28) 22 2877
JL 2821 ATL (14)+(-28) 49 2870
JG 2750 SFO (25)+ (20) 88 2838
CC 2510 NYM (01)+ (26) 53 2563
DC 2402 LAD (29) 60 2462
GG 2299 MIN (09) 49 2348
SC 2277 NYY (20) 49 2326
LZ 1995 CLE (23) 60 2055
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/04/06 12:27 AM
I just wish today was a normal day with no DH. I would've done a lot better.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/04/06 12:32 AM
Ok, why the hell isn't Kevin Mench playing today? The one guy who wasn't playing in a dh and I have to pick one guy not playing. My pitching in yahoo stinks, my offense here is worse. I should merge them together, like a recees peanut butter cup.
You've got your middle reliever on my catcher. You've got your short stop on my closer.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/04/06 10:31 AM
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's ProbablesOur four leaders - DB, PL, TM, and JL - played it smart....
They were aware of both DHs, knew about the weather conditions in NY, and wound up with the lowest four scores of the day.
CC, who went to bed too early to catch the Atl-Ari DH, and JG who got home too late to catch it, made out better, and the four who didn't use
either DH made out just fine.
Just goes to show 'ya.....
DB 2942 ATL (-14) 30 2972 Cle Sabathia 5-2 1.71 15.7
PL 2861 ATL (-14) 41 2902 Cle
TM 2855 ATL (-14) 23 2878 Cle
JL 2821 ATL (-14) 49 2870 Hou Oswalt 6-6 3.11 9.3
JG 2750 SFO (45) 85 2835 Cle
CC 2510 NYM (26) 53 2563 Cle
DC 2402 LAD (29) 61 2463 StL Marquis 7-4 4.75 3.5
GG 2299 MIN (12) 55 2354 Min Silva 2-6 8.80 -7.8
SC 2277 NYY (20) 50 2327 CWS Buehrle 8-3 2.89 8.2
LZ 1995 CLE (23) 61 2056 Cle
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/04/06 07:43 PM
Javy Lopez!
*See Yahoo thread*
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/04/06 09:07 PM
It figures on a day when I get 40 offensive points Adam Dunn gives me nothing and Ibanez doesn't play.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 12:23 AM
Looks like my total could be around zero for the day at this rate... :rolleyes:
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 12:27 AM
All I can say is..OUCH!!
That'll teach me to be excited about having a good offensive day.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 02:06 AM
I'd be happy with zero right now.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 02:24 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I'd be happy with zero right now.
You WERE having a great week.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 12:32 PM
What do you say about a day on which the top PS choice, Cleveland, registers a -29, and all of those smart enough to stay off of Cleveland manage a 13, a 6, a -19, and a -3?
Well, each of us can say
something positive…..
DB is happy that his two closest pursuers also had Cleveland.
PL is happy that he managed to shave another 4 points off of DB's lead, and is now as close to DB as he's been since May 8th.
JL is happy that he stayed away from Cleveland, and even tho his Astros scored only 13, and his offense got hum a rousing 7, his 20 point total was the highest score among the leaders, and moved him into 3rd place, within 4 points of second place and 70 points of the lead.
TM is happy that his offense scored 32, and his total score of 3 for the day still enabled him to gain ground on DB and PL/
CC is happy that she gained ground on JG.
DC is happy that he gained ground on CC.
GG is happy that she gained grond on the two people in front of her and the two people behind her.
SC is happy that his -19 from the White Sox PS only cost him 20 points in his battle with GG.
LZ doesn't really care anyway.
and
JG is happy that, um....JG is happy because he, er........Well, JG doesn't really have anything to be happy about I guess. He lost ground to everyone.
Sunday's Scores & Monday's Probables
DB 2972 Cle (-29) -12 2960 Ari Webb 9-3 2.01 14.4
PL 2902 Cle (-29) -08 2894 Ari
JL 2870 Hou (13) 20 2890 Ari
TM 2878 Cle (-29) 03 2881 Ari
JG 2835 Cle (-29) -16 2819 Ari
CC 2563 Cle (-29) 11 2574 Atl Hudson 9-3 3.99 7.2
DC 2463 StL (06) 21 2484 StL Suppan 6-5 5.06 2.2
GG 2354 Min (-03) 23 2377 Ari
SC 2327 CWS (-19) 03 2330 StL
LZ 2056 Cle (-29) -13 2043 Cle Don't play today
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 01:07 PM
Actually I could not pick my lineup for today's game. A main cable that provides high speed service to our area was knocked out yesterday morning and will not be restored until today. So I have a skeleton line-up with a horrible pitcher going today.
It's really ridiculous that this platform does not allow you to make your picks right before the game, or at least the morning of the games. Because if they did, like every other fantasy game does, I could have made my picks for today's game, this morning, on my computer at work.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 01:14 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]CC is happy that she gained ground on JG.
[/b]
Oh yeah, that 235 points I'm away from Geoff has me doing cartwheels.
I think I'll just concentrate on Nascar. Is anyone else still playig that?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 01:43 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]DB is happy that his two closest pursuers also had Cleveland. [/b]
Me?? I'm just glad last week is over.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Actually I could not pick my lineup for today's game. A main cable that provides high speed service to our area was knocked out yesterday morning and will not be restored until today. So I have a skeleton line-up with a horrible pitcher going today. :p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 03:04 PM
You know what Plaw? You miss the whole point!
We are playing a game that has a SALARY cap, and if you go over your salary cap, it's your fault and no one elses. After all it is a SALARY CAP game.
What I complained about has absolutely NOTHING to do with the BASIS and IDEA of the game.
Just don't understand why you are not allowed to pre-set your line-ups or even set your line-ups within a reasonable amount of time before actual game time.
The title of the game is SALARY CAP BASEBALL. So you are playing a game that requires you to stay within your salary cap. And if you don't then you are not playing the game that you signed up to play which is SALARY CAP.
To not allow you to set your line-up within a reasonable amount of time from the first pitch IS totally different than your wanting to re-write the rules of playing under a Salary Cap.
Accidentally going over the salary cap is your own fault and no one elses. Not being allowed to pre-set your line-ups or not allowing you to set your lineup before game time is NOT your own fault, but a flaw in this game site format.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 03:11 PM
Bottom line:
We're both suggesting ways that the game could be changed.
Different ideas, different aspects of the game, sure....
But the rules are the rules. This is the way the game works.
I happen to agree with you on your point, but that doesn't change the fact that this is the way the game is set up.
Ypu happen not to agree with me on my point; that's fine - it's up to you.
But your point (or idea, or whatever) has no more validity than mine does.
As JG always says when this comes up, "Adapt....pick your team early in the day so if you have a computer problem or something you have the whole day to deal with it."
And anyway....I'm just breaking your balls.
The change you would like to see is at least "doable", mine really isn't, altho if you got my point you'd agree it makes sense.
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Accidentally going over the salary cap is your own fault and no one elses. Not being allowed to pre-set your line-ups or not allowing you to set your lineup before game time is NOT your own fault, but a flaw in this game site format.
Not doing your lineup early enough in the day to be able to deal with a computer problem is your own fault and no one else's.
You know what the rules are and how the game works...be prepared for it.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 03:46 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Not doing your lineup early enough in the day to be able to deal with a computer problem is your own fault and no one else's.
You know what the rules are and how the game works...be prepared for it.
Yes, that is true. But let's take what happened a few days ago. I set my lineup early in the morning for the NEXT day's game, and then later on I find out that there will be a doubleheader that next day but because of not being allowed to go in and set your line-up after 3:00am in the morning :rolleyes: , I had to stick with what I had set early in the morning the day before. And not being allowed to Pre-set your line-up because you may be going on vacation is just plain ridiculous.
Yes, we both have valid points, and I understand what you were trying to point out. But again, it is a Salary Cap game and that's that. But there is no reason that the format for setting your line-ups cannot be changed to give one a wider time frame to do so. Changing the format for setting a line-up really does not affect how the game itself is played. Allowing someone to go over the Salary Cap without paying a penalty, does change how the game is played.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 03:54 PM
First of all, I never said that someone should be allowed to go over the cap without there being a penalty.
What I did say was that since we all play the same way - since all serious players play the same way - we pick a PS staff first and then pick the rest of the team around it, if you are over the cap one day it's not because of your PS - it's because you picked someone, accidentally or inadvertently, who was too expensive and who put you over the cap.
So what I suggested was, your PS points should still count, because they would have been the same whether you were over the cap or not.
Second of all, technically speaking, I wouldn't go so far as to call the 3:00 AM deadline for picking your team a "flaw" in the game.
I'm sure ESPN has it set up that way intentionally, for whatever the reason.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 04:13 PM
Your pitching staff IS part of your WHOLE team's salary cap! So I don't agree with you and really fail to see your point about seperating hitting stats from pitching stats if you go over the cap. In that case ESPN would have set up a sperate salary cap for pitchers and then another one for hitters.
Regardless if you pick your pitcher first (which as you said, most of us probably do) or last, the bottom line is that you have a TEAM salary cap and therefore if you go over the Salary Cap in what is called the SALARY CAP game, then all of your TEAM'S stats shouldn't count.
Who's fault is it if you go over the salary cap when picking your line-up? You are given a warning, right there on the site, if you are over the cap.
Why should your pitching stats count separately from your hitting stats if your TEAM goes over the salary cap? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/05/06 04:28 PM
DC's gripe has been a valid complaint for some time, and I'm sure they've gotten plenty of email about it -- but perhaps they'll provide an explanation if you send it to:
baseball@fantasygames.go.comThe Diamond Daily game has a Noon ET deadline -- and you can pick players months in advance -- there's no reason why Baseball Challenge cannot work that way as well.
As for PL's gripe, that's just... well... a ridiculous attempt to finagle extra points after a personal screw-up. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 10:11 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
As for PL's gripe, that's just... well... a ridiculous attempt to finagle extra points after a personal screw-up. :p In a way, yes, it was ridiculous.
But, you will recall, in my original post I never said that I was suggesting such a thing - mainly because I know it is a ridiculous and unworkable idea.
I certainly didn't expect everyone to say "Yeah, PL is right....that's a good idea....let's give him 28 more points"
But it seems to me that DC's complaint is not much different.
In both cases there is a rule - the salary cap and the deasline for picking your team - and in both cases the people involved - myself and DC - chose to "take our chances" with the rule. DC by waiting until the evening to pick his team, and me by waiting until 1:00 in the morning, which caused me to literally fall asleep in front of the computer.
AAMOF, JG, just about
every time that we've had a situation where someone was unable to pick their team for the next day because of a computer problem or because they waited until it was too late in the day - and there have certainly been enough of those situations in the past four years....
You have posted something to the effect of "That's why
I always pick my team early in the day :p "
From which I infer that you consider it to be a screw-up when someone doesn't.
If I recall correctly, you even posted something like that when I whined about being over the cap because I fell asleep while doing my team.
Both cases are similar in that they are, IMO, "flaws" in the game. The difference is that in one case thee is a solution and in the other case there isn't.
But the fact as, as JG has ponted out on many occasions, if yoy choose to wait until the "last minute" to pick your team, you are running a risk.
Now, as far as the logic goes with respect to having the 3:00 AM to 3:00 AM time frame, as opposed to allowing you to pick your team for that day right up until the starting time of the day's first game:
While I agree that it would be better to do it the latter way rather than the former, I can see
some logic in doing it the way that they do.
The rules, or procedures, or whatever you want to call it are the same and uniform every single day.
No guesswork about what time the deadline is for a particular day, nothing to look up or check, and less work.
And, finally, a question for JG:
As I pointed out above:
Just about every time that we've had a situation where someone was unable to pick their team for the next day because of a computer problem or because they waited until it was too late in the day - and there have certainly been enough of those situations in the past four years....
You have posted something to the effect of "That's why I always pick my team early in the day :p "How come in this case DC didn't rate a similar comment from you?
I mean, c'mon....let's be fair here :p .
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 10:26 AM
Monday's Scores & Tuesday's Probables
DB 2960 Ari (13) 62 3022 SaF Schmidt 7-4 2.70 13.4
TM^ 2881 Ari (13) 61 2942 NYM Martinez 7-4 2.50 17.4
PL 2894 Ari (13) 47 2941 SaF
JL 2890 Ari (13) 41 2931 TaB
JG 2819 Ari (13) 35 2854 SaF
CC 2574 Atl (11) 55 2629 Oak Zito 6-6 2.87 10.1
DC 2484 StL (-11) -04 2480 NYM
GG 2377 Ari (13) 23 2400 Ari Cruz 3-4 4.41 5.3
SC 2330 StL (-11) 30 2360 NYM
LZ 2043 Cle DNP 14 2057 Cle
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 11:23 AM
From The Department Of Useless Statistics Last Week's Stats Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts ABs TBs Slug% Pts Total
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JG 5-3 3.54 148 224 99 .442 181 329
PL 5-3 5.12 96 214 116 .542 227 323
JL 2-6 5.16 68 232 123 .530 226 294
TM 4-4 5.40 73 231 113 .489 209 282
GG 3-4 4.14 82 216 102 .472 194 276
DC 5-2 4.23 103 186 81 .435 156 259
SC 4-3 5.16 79 176 72 .409 156 235
CC 5-3 4.81 88 200 76 .380 146 234
DB 4-4 5.25 81 214 75 .350 146 227
LZ 4-3 6.97 5 214 109 .509 218 223
Pitching Hitting
W-L E.R.A. Pts. ABs TBs Slug% Pts. Total
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DB 45-21 3.67 1155 2001 920 .460 1805 2960
PL 46-20 3.74 1103 1908 893 .468 1819 2894
JL 36-30 3.86 1032 2083 950 .456 1858 2890
TM 47-19 3.53 1176 1959 857 .437 1705 2881
JG 40-28 3.81 1026 1983 911 .459 1793 2819
CC 38-29 4.15 870 1965 867 .441 1704 2574
DC 42-23 4.17 867 1881 829 .441 1617 2484
GG 34-31 4.76 617 1980 898 .454 1760 2377
SC 33-28 4.52 748 1795 798 .445 1582 2330
LZ 35-21 4.88 554 1678 734 .437 1489 2043
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I'm just glad last week is over. Here's a chart with our weekly finishes:
10 points for finishing first, 9 for finishing second, etc....
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 PTS
-
DB 1 2 1 3 1 1 65
TM 2 1 3 1 1 1 70
PL 2 2 1 2 1 1 67
JL 1 1 3 2 1 1 64
JG 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 58
CC 1 2 3 1 1 1 45
DC 1 1 3 1 1 2 41
GG 1 1 2 3 2 37
SC 1 1 1 3 2 1 35
LZ 1 3 5 14
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 02:00 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
How come in this case DC didn't rate a similar comment from you?
I mean, c'mon....let's be fair here :p . Because DC's complaint is more sensible than Plaw's! :p
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 02:09 PM
You miss my point here....
Every time in the past someone has been unable to change their team for the following day because of a computer problem which, because they waited until it was too late in the day to put an alternate plan in place, JG has made a comment similar to the one I indicated.
In this case, he did not.
It has nothing to do with the validity of my complaint vs. yours.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 02:12 PM
Hey plaw... Thanks for the stats. Is that chart incomplete?
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 02:16 PM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 03:14 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]You have posted something to the effect of "That's why
I always pick my team early in the day :p "[/i]
How come in this case DC didn't rate a similar comment from you?
[/b]
Sorry, I missed this post...
Well, of course the "I always pick my team early" rule applies to DC as well -- however, he was suggesting a later deadline, and I agreed with him. Why do we have until Noon of gametime for Diamond Daily, but have to get our Baseball Challenge lineups in in the wee hours of the morning? Even YOU would've benefited from a reasonable Noon (or even 9AM) deadline, no? Aren't we also more likely to catch pitching changes and DL changes the next morning rather than in the middle of the night?
I know you agree that the deadline would be better on gameday rather than 3AM; but if your gripe was mearly why I didn't laugh at DC but laughed at you -- well, maybe it's more cuz it was out of his control (cable went out) rather than him falling asleep at his desk.
Don't take it so personally... DC, this is business, and PL's taking it very very personally!
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/06/06 08:45 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
DC, this is business, and PL's taking it very very personally! DON CARDI : "Hey Plaw, whataya gonna do, nice salary cap sports commisioner, eh? Didn't want to get mixed up in fantasy hockey, huh? Now you wanna change the salary cap rule, why, because ya fell asleep at your computer? Hah? What do you think this is a table top game, where you can change the rules any time you want? You've gotta get up close to your computer like this and bada-bing! you hit the save button and set your line-up under the salary cap! Come're...
(as Don Cardi kisses Plaw's head)
Don Cardi
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 03:30 AM
After tonight, you can put a fork in me. I'm done.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 03:50 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Hey plaw... Thanks for the stats. Is that chart incomplete?
Which one? Is something missing somewhere from one of them?
Originally posted by Just Lou:
After tonight, you can put a fork in me. I'm done. Please... :rolleyes:
Less than two weeks ago I trailed DB by around 200 points.
There's still what? Four weeks to go in the first half and 16 weeks to go in the season?
Still a looooooooooooooooong way to go.....for a man of your caliber that ain't nuttin'.
After all, you're the MOAAFS :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 04:00 AM
If I would have pulled a "you", and fell asleep with my team over the cap, I'd still have a chance. With my team in the negatives, it won't be as easy. :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 04:52 AM
I didn't say it would be easy, I just said that you're certainly not out if it yet.
Speaking of pulling a "me", I asked on the ESPN Message Board if anyone knew the logic behind the reason why ESPN has the 3:00 AM deadline.
A couple of "semi" good reasons, but none that were earth shaking.
Here\'s the thread.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 10:19 AM
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables
DB 3022 SaF (37) 61 3083 Atl Smoltz 6-6 3.72 9.6
PL^ 2941 SaF (37) 53 2994 NYM Glavine 10-2 2.59 12.2
TM 2942 NYM (-05) 10 2952 Cin Harang 8-4 3.65 10.3
JL 2931 TaB (-19) -09 2922 LAA Weaver 2-0 1.35 18.5
JG 2854 SaF (37) 55 2909 LAA
CC 2629 Oak (09) 25 2654 Oak Blanton 5-6 5.21 1.9
DC 2480 NYM (-05) 16 2496 Det Velander 8-3 3.13 9.0
GG 2400 Ari (01) 24 2424 NYM
SC 2360 NYM (-05) 10 2370 NYM
LZ 2057 Cle (DNP) 21 2078 Ari Cruz 3-4 4.41 5.3
After an 11 day streak in which
PL trimmed the lead to 66 points,
DB has stopped the bleeding the last two days, and now leads by a somewhat more comfortable 89 points.
Meanwhile, as the Gangster BB Fantasy Game World waits for
TM to start missing a few days already,
JL announces that he's ready do be poked with the proverbial fork.
JG, who, rumor has it, has fallen in love with Giants' Jason Schmidt, has finally made some significant progress in his attempt to crawl out of 5th place, while
CC, who is 255 points out of 5th, but has a 158 point lead over the guy in 7th, seems to be going nowhere.
And that "guy in 7th"? None other than
DC - the man who is handing out those tissue boxes at a record pace. Just make sure you keep enough for yourself, there....
An enigma? A disappointment? What can we say about
GG? Enthusiastic to the point of starting her own league elsewhere and handing out instruction sheets to the players besides, the heir apparent to the "Fantasy Sports Nerd" throne has mysteriously faded away to almost nowhere.
SC, the man who started three days late, has made a respectable showing, considering. Or has he? Let's give him an additional 200 points - a rather liberal total, too, don't you think? - for the three days he missed. That gets him all the way up to 2570, which is good enough for 7th place instead of 9th. Hmmmm......
And finally there's
LZ, better known to her more intimate fantasy associates as "Last Place Lizzie". Just when we think she's out, she goes and changes her team and pulls us back in.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 01:24 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] [b]DC - the man who is handing out those tissue boxes at a record pace. Just make sure you keep enough for yourself, there....
[/b]
You ever hear me crying about my teams performance?
Besides, it looks as though you've used up all the tissues in your last two posts, and didn't leave any for the rest of us! :p
At this rate, I just may finish with a record worse than the 1962 Mets!
Don Cardi
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 02:57 PM
maaan does my team looks weird today. I'm hoping a few DNP's and a shaky pitching. in fact, why everytime that the top 4 have different pitching staffs, the difference between them is so big? I pick a guy thinking "well he might not be
thee best pick, but he's gonna give me something", and it turns out a 42 pts difference between Schmidt and Pedro. that is not the first time, and it has happened the opposite in the past - like that day when it was either Santana or Beckett, and I fortunately went with Johan.
anyway, I have done fine after whining in the past, so I'm just trying again
and PL, I don't plan missing days pal
I thought I would miss the 2 and 3 of june but I had a trip cancelled.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 03:06 PM
TM's serious... He's canceling trips for this game.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/07/06 06:53 PM
I knew someone was gonna assume that, but in fact, I really wanted to go but my friggin' friend gave up in the last minute. I had already planned everything. actually, I'd probably be able to pick my team very early on the friday and very late on the sunday so I would miss only the sunday scores. the way I'm having trouble picking my team lately, I don't think I'd get thaaaaaaaaat hurt if I picked a reasonable 2-day PS and depended only of luck on the 2nd day (I'd say you had a 50-50 chance of guessing the day which I'd make more offensive pts).
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 01:04 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
And finally there's [b]LZ, better known to her more intimate fantasy associates as "Last Place Lizzie".[/b]
Ha! That's cute, I kinda like it.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 04:03 AM
Baseball Challenge is going down for maintenance tonight at 2AM. Set your teams early.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 06:11 AM
I set mine over 14 hours ago... like a normal person. :p
BTW - DMC and I drove thru 16W tonight, but didn't see you cuz I have E-ZPass, sorry... :p
P.S. "THURSDAY, JUNE 8 FROM 2 AM ET UNTIL 5 PM ET"
15 hours????!!!!?!?!?!?!
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 06:20 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
BTW - DMC and I drove thru 16W tonight, but didn't see you cuz I have E-ZPass, sorry... :p
Too bad. I would have told the collector to let you go for free. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 03:40 PM
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables
DB 3083 Atl (09) 29 3112 Min Santana 8-4 3.24 13.5
PL 2994 NYM (-01) 08 3002 Min
TM 2952 Cin (11) 30 2982 Min
JL 2922 LAA (28) 45 2967 Min
JG 2909 LAA (28) 43 2952 Cin Arroyo 9-3 2.40 12.8
CC 2654 Oak (-25) -05 2649 Min
DC 2496 Det (09) 32 2528 Det Rogers 8-4 3.54 7.3
GG 2424 NYM (-01) 28 2452 Tor Halladay 10-1 2.81 11.3
SC 2370 NYM (-01) 32 2402 Min
LZ 2078 Ari (01) 28 2106 Ari Vargas 6-5 5.20 1.8
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 04:26 PM
So any trash talking last night? :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 09:39 PM
Not that much fantasy sports talk, and no real trash talking......
But after a few bottles of wine had been emptied,
JG admitted that he stinks at fantasy baseball and that his first place standing in the Yahoo game was due strictly to luck......
DMC admitted that he was sorry that he wasn't in either game, but vowed to play the salary cap game the second half and promised to kick ass.....
DC admitted that he didn't know the first thing about baseball, and uses a dart board that he has at home to pick his pitching staff every day, which was why he had to wait until he got home to pick his team the other day when his internet connection was down.....
SC admitted that he started three days late on purpose, so he would have a built in excuse for his usual poor showing.....
and
CC admitted that she doesn't care where she finishes in the final standings as long as she winds up as the "Top Chick".....
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 09:41 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]CC admitted that she doesn't care where she finishes in the final standings as long as she winds up as the "Top Chick"..... [/b]
That won't be hard... it's a done deal as far as I'm concerned, CC!
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 10:11 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]DC admitted that he didn't know the first thing about baseball, and uses a dart board that he has at home to pick his pitching staff every day, which was why he had to wait until he got home to pick his team the other day when his internet connection was down.....
[/b]
Well obviously you are the one who had too much wine last night.
I didn't have one drink, and actually never said anything of the sort. Did you hear me say those things between the 4th and 5th glass of wine that you had, or the 7yh and 8th?
Hey, you forgot to tell us what you said after a few wines!
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 10:12 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[b] Hey plaw... Thanks for the stats. Is that chart incomplete?
Which one? Is something missing somewhere from one of them?
[/b][/quote]I meant to reply to this... Never mind plaw, I was misreading it. I understand it now. Thanks.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Hey, you forgot to tell us what you said after a few wines!
(Insert obligatory comment about "Wines" or "Whines" here: ________________)
Except for the ten minute speech I made in between the baked clams and the calamari about how I gave Beth an hour's worth of free fantasy baseball advice yesterday afternoon, I don't recall saying anything.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 10:34 PM
Did your ten minute speech go anything like this? :p
Plaw: You talk about extending the deadline -- is extending the deadline gonna bring more points back to you? Or more points to me? I forgo the opportunity to score more points -- But I have selfish reasons. My favorite player, TM -- was forced to cancel a vacation, --
(then, as he stands, with SC's assistance)
-- because of this fantasy baseball business. All right -- and I have to make arrangements to make him take a vacation -- cleared of all fantasy baseball stress. But I'm a superstitious man -- and if some unlucky accident should befall him -- if he should oversleep and be over the cap -- or if he -- should miss a doubleheader -- or if his cable modem is struck by a bolt of lightning -- then I'm going to blame some of the people in this room. And that, I do not forgive.
(then)
But -- that aside -- let me say that I swear -- on Crabcake's pom poms -- that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made here today...
[Plaw and SC move toward the head of the table where JG is sitting.
DC does the same. Plaw and DC embrace as the others applaud]
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/08/06 10:37 PM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/09/06 11:16 AM
I think by now we must have pretty much rewritten the entire script.
Good one, DB.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/09/06 11:25 AM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables
DB 3112 Min (20) 59 3171 SaD Young 7-5 3.39 9.8
PL 3002 Min (20) 39 3041 SaD
TM 2982 Min (20) 47 3029 SaD
JL 2967 Min (20) 52 3019 Min Radke 4-8 6.42 -2.2
JG 2952 Cin (28) 40 2992 Phi Myers 8-4 2.90 10.5
CC 2649 Min (20) 36 2685 CWS Vazquez 7-4 4.14 7.7
DC 2528 Det ( 24) 35 2563 LAD Penny 8-4 2.62 9.7
GG 2452 Tor (-04) 16 2468 SaD
SC 2402 Min (20) 51 2453 SaF Morris 4-8 5.32 1.8
LZ 2106 Ari (-04) 15 2121 Ari Batista 9-3 4.12 4.2
Just when I thought I was back in it, DB is knocking me back out.....
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/09/06 01:54 PM
I hope Griffey plays today.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
What happens if he fools me a third time?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/09/06 04:12 PM
Jun. 9, 2006 - 9:38 am et
Ken Griffey (quadriceps) is expected to return to the starting lineup on Friday.
Griffey sat out Wednesday and Thursday due to the sore quad. "Junior was a lot better (Thursday)," trainer Mark Mann said. "He thinks with this extra day he'll get over the hump. He has very minimal soreness."
Source: Cincinnati EnquirerAfter his big night on Tuesday, I had him in my lineup for Wednesday, when he sat.
When I did my Thursday team (on Wednesday afternoon) I remember he had good lifetime numbers against whoever was pitching, so I put him in there for Thursday (before i knew he was gonna sit Wednesday night).
When he didn't play Wednesday night, I "tweaked" him out of my Thursday lineup late Wednesday, and substituted Tori Hunter in CF.
Unfortunately, the Minnesota manager decided that Thursday night would be a good night to gaive Hunter his first day off of the season, despite
his good lifetime numbers against whoever
he was supposed to be facing.
As Casey Stengal - The Old Professor - used to say, "You could look it up."
Someday I'll figure all of this out.....
:rolleyes:
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/10/06 06:44 AM
Hey, CS, I think I mentioned that I'd be attending an Astros game when the Scrubs were in town...
Please tell me these aren't your friends. :p
Talk about adding insult to injury - they definitely didn't make the loss any easier to deal with.
But that game did spark a four game win streak to follow!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/10/06 06:54 AM
Unless you took that picture an hour before the game started, it doesn't look like there was much of a crowd.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/10/06 07:03 AM
Yeah, I took it a while before the game started - the stadium fills up a little more than that, thankfully.
Of course, it looked almost as bad as that by the end of the game. I guess people lose faith when it's 8-0?
(I, for one, refuse to leave early.)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/10/06 09:07 AM
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables
DB 3171 SaD (31) 62 3233 Ari Webb 9-4 2.14 14.0
PL 3041 SaD (31) 52 3093 Ari
TM 3029 SaD (31) 43 3072 Bos Lester 0-0 -.-- -.- :/
JL 3019 Min (25) 50 3069 SaF Lowry 4-3 3.76 4.4
JG 2992 Phi (-07) 23 3015 Bos
CC 2685 CWS (18) 38 2703 NYY Mussina 9-4 2.67 13.5
DC 2563 LAD (31) 63 2626 Bos
GG 2468 SaD (31) 59 2527 Ari
SC 2453 SaF (17) 23 2476 Ari
LZ 2121 Ari (-17) 12 2133 Ari
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/10/06 04:42 PM
Saturday Scores
DB 3233 Ari ()
PL 3093 Ari ()
TM 3072 Bos ()
JL 3069 SaF ()
JG 3015 Bos ()
CC 2703 NYY ()
DC 2626 Bos ()
GG 2527 Ari ()
SC 2476 Ari ()
LZ 2133 Ari ()
DB PL TM JG CC DC GG
C Laird Mirab Mirab Mirab (Treanor) (Molina) (Ausmus)
1B Teixeira Youki Teixeira Youki Teixeira (AdGonzo) Teixeira
2B DeRosa Kinsler DeRosa DeRosa (Cairo) (Freel) Kinsler
3B (Aybar) Blalock (Sanchez) Blalock Blalock (Beltre) (Aybar)
SS (Scutaro) MYoung Cora (Clayton) AGonzo AGonzo Cora
LF Manny (Dellucci) Manny Manny Manny Manny Manny
CF Matthews Matthews Crisp Matthews Crisp Crisp Matthews
RF Nixon Nixon Nixon (Branyan) (Milledge) Nixon Nixon
DH Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz
PS (ARI) (ARI) BOS BOS (NYY) BOS (ARI)
DB - Laird, Teixeira, DeRosa, Aybar, Scutaro, Manny
PL - Mirabelli, Youkilis, Kinsler, Blalock, MYoung, Dellucci, Matthews, ARI
TM - Teixeira, DeRosa, Sanchez, Cora, Manny, Crisp, Nixon, BOS
JL - Everyone
JG - Mirabelli, Youkilis, DeRosa, Blalock, Clayton, Matthews, Branyan, BOS
CC - Treanor, Teixeira, Cairo, Blalock, AGonzo, Crisp, Milledge, NYY
DC - Molina, AdGonzo, Freel, Beltre, AGonzo, Crisp, Nixon, BOS
GG - Ausmus, Teixeira, Kinsler, Aybar, Cora, Matthews, ARI
SC - Everyone
LZ - Everyone
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/10/06 05:59 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Who we want to do especially well....
CC - ............... NYY
[/b]
So much for that.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/10/06 11:58 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
TEX@BOS Singleheader (One game postponed)
uugh that's gonna be ugly. I'm finished
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 01:25 AM
Foulke me!!!!
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 01:50 AM
You 'doubleheader heads' really should check weather forecasts before games.
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 02:01 PM
Yesterday's updates later, guys.
Originally posted by Just Lou:
You 'doubleheader heads' really should check weather forecasts before games. :p I checked.
But the way I figured it was that DB was gonna check also, and after he did he would figure that even though there was a chance of a rainout, he would
still go with all DH players because he wouldn't take the chance that they
would would play both games and I would have all DH players and he wouldn't.
So, figuring that he was gonna take all DH players, I figured that I could afford to as well, since if they
did play both games I couldn't afford to
not have all DH players if he did, and if they
didn't play both games, I wouldn't be any worse off by having all DH players, since he would too.
I don't know if I explained that very well.....
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 03:00 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Yadda, yadda, yadda..... *cough* bullshit *cough*
I don't know if I explained that very well...
You're beginning to sound more and more like a combination of Norm Crosby and Professor Irwin Corey. Stop with the double-talk and post the results already.
P.S. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 03:07 PM
I resemble that remark.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 04:03 PM
Saturday Scores & Sunday's Probables
DB 3233 Ari (21) 53 3286 SaF Schmidt 8-4 2.53 14.9
PL 3093 Ari (21) 51 3144 SaF
TM 3072 Bos (-1) 22 3094 SaF
JL 3069 SaF (18) 43 3112 SaF
JG 3015 Bos (-1) 39 3054 Bos Beckett 7-5 5.27 4.3 & Clement 6-5 6.68 -1.2
CC 2723 NYY (16) 49 2772 SaD Peavy 5-7 4.56 8.0
DC 2626 Bos (-1) 24 2650 CWS Garcia 9-3 4.56 4.8
GG 2527 Ari (21) 46 2573 Bos
SC 2476 Ari (21) 44 2520 NYM Martinez 7-5 3.01 15.3
LZ 2133 Ari (21) 58 2191 Ari Ortiz 1-4 6.52 -1.0
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 05:22 PM
PL, can you explain why you picked Cliff Floyd today?
I actually hope you know something I don't, because I don't expect him back soon.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 05:27 PM
Yeah, for some reason I didn't realize he was out.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 06:18 PM
Maybe you'll get lucky. He's still listed "day to day".
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 07:33 PM
Ortiz is amazing.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Ortiz is amazing. Yeah... 11 points in this game... salvaged my BOS PS (19 pts in Game 1)...
BUT!! my RP Ot
sucka in the draft game served it up to him (-22).
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 08:48 PM
Anybody notice that JG has a real talent for incorporating/altering player names into forms of speech?
For example...
- ... get Milledge out of him...
- ... Foulke me...
- ... Otsucka...
If there was a professional league for this, you'd be the #1 draft pick.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 10:18 PM
Like the guy on ESPN who does the nicknames.....Len Berman?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/11/06 11:50 PM
Freakin' Clement didn't play?? :rolleyes:
Pauley???? Won't see him no more...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/12/06 02:16 AM
I hate to use this again so soon, but...
...that MutherFoulker piece of Foulking shit leaves me no Foulken choice!!
:rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/12/06 11:17 AM
You get so
emotional over this game, JG.
Sheesh.....
It's only a game, for chrissakes.
Have fun, enjoy yourself, don't get so upset when things don't go your way.
I mean, it's not like we're playing for money here or anything.....
Sunday's Scores & Monday's Probables
DB 3286 SaF (00) 55 3341 LAA Santana 6-6 4.32 6.7
PL 3144 SaF (00) 64 3208 Det Verlander 8-4 3.35 8.3
JL^ 3112 SaF (00) 66 3178 LAA
TM 3094 SaF (00) 66 3160 LAA
JG 3054 Bos (-10) 52 3106 CWS Contreras 6-4 2.54 11.5
CC 2772 SaD (-03) 32 2804 CWS
DC 2650 CWS (-15) 40 2690 CWS
GG 2573 Bos (-10) 50 2623 CWS
SC 2520 NYM (21) 64 2584 CWS
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/12/06 01:53 PM
Serenity NOW!!!!!!!!!!! :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/12/06 01:55 PM
How does JL move up in the standings when he scored the same number of points as TM?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/12/06 01:57 PM
He should have been moved up the day before.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/13/06 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
How does JL move up in the standings when he scored the same number of points as TM?
I was ahead of him the day before, but was incorrectly listed below him.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/13/06 12:57 AM
oh come on!!! friggin' JL will outscore me even if he picks a non playing outfielder.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/13/06 02:12 AM
I wasn't paying much attention last night.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/13/06 10:39 AM
Monday's Scores & Tuesday's Probables Originally posted by Just Lou:
I wasn't paying much attention last night. There's been a lot of that going around lately.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 06:15 PM
Hmmmm... I thought there were no clear cut choices yesterday for PS, but the majority went with LA (Dodgers).
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 06:53 PM
All I know is... I hate this game, and may not play next year. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 06:53 PM
I thought Weaver, who's been unhittable since being called up, and pitching against the Royals, was a fairly easy choice.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 06:55 PM
I agree with you JL about Weaver. I was talking about the choices for today.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
...the majority went with LA.
Which LA? :p
I have LAD Penny, who I thought was a good choice until I read "Dodgers ace Penny does not have much success vs. Padres" :rolleyes:
Or did you mean LAA Escobar vs the lowly Royals?
[WhineAlert] I had Arroyo yesterday, who fucked me over completely - and today look at how Cincy (and Milwaukee) are doing, 0-0 going into the 9th!! :rolleyes: [/WhineAlert]
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 07:03 PM
I meant Penny. I stayed with Escobar (lone wolf
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I agree with you JL about Weaver. I was talking about the choices for today.
Oh.
Yeah, today was tougher. I took Willis because the Braves are just plain terrible right now.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
I took Willis because the Braves are just plain terrible right now.
As opposed to the Marlins? Wow, they must be really bad!
Hmm, let's see... Willis had a complete game @ATL last month, giving up only 2 ERs, just 5 days after being rocked at home by ATL giving up 7 ERs in 2.2 innings.
Which Willis will show up? The 2.44 ERA AWAY Willis, or the 8.54 ERA HOME Willis? :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 07:23 PM
I have Willis benched in the yahoo game, so he should do fine.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 07:37 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Which Willis will show up? The 2.44 ERA AWAY Willis, or the 8.54 ERA HOME Willis? :p
Look at JG trying to do a jinx...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 07:56 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[WhineAlert] I had Arroyo yesterday, who fucked me over completely - and today look at how Cincy (and Milwaukee) are doing, 0-0 going into the 9th!! :rolleyes: [/WhineAlert]
41 pts for Cincy today, after their 11th inning win...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 08:05 PM
Extra innings and a walk-off hit... I'm surprised Plaw didn't pick them for today.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 08:07 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Just Lou:
[b]I took Willis because the Braves are just plain terrible right now.
As opposed to the Marlins? Wow, they must be really bad!
[/b][/quote]Look at their records for the month of June. At least the Marlins are on a winning streak, while the Braves are in a complete tailspin.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 09:09 PM
Willis has been pretty solid his last 5 starts.
Altho the Marlins have lost 3 of the 5, they've won his last 2, and over the 5 games Willis has an E.R.A. of 2.08 in 39 IPs.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/14/06 09:15 PM
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables
DB 3383 LAA (32) 68 3451 LAA Escobar 5-7 3.72 7.1
PL 3258 Min (40) 52 3310 LAD Penny 9-4 2.34 10.7
JL 3233 LAA (32) 66 3299 Fla Willis 3-10 4.32 4.5
TM 3209 LAA (32) 50 3259 Fla
JG 3148 Cin (03) 20 3168 LAD
CC 2853 NYM (-01) 26 2879 LAD
DC 2734 Cin (03) 27 2761 Hou Oswalt 6-6 3.11 9.3
GG 2665 Cin (03) 30 2695 LAD
SC 2645 Cin (03) 20 2665 LAD
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 01:17 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[Insert Zia whine about how there are two teams from LA.] There is
ONE baseball team in L.A.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 01:23 AM
I hope they get to finish the Mets game tonight so I don't lose my 8 points from Wright.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 11:20 AM
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables
DB 3451 LAA (15) 66 3517 SaD Young 8-5 3.25 10.5
PL 3310 LAD (07) 30 3340 ChC Zambrano 8-6 2.93 11.9
JL 3299 Fla (13) 41 3340 ChC
TM 3259 Fla (13) 24 3283 SaD
JG 3168 LAD (07) 34 3202 ChC
CC 2879 LAD (07) 47 2926 Bos Wakefield 6-7 3.93 7.6
DC 2761 Hou (13) 39 2800 Det Miner (?) 1-1 4.50 3.5
GG 2695 LAD (07) 57 2752 CWS Buehrle 9-4 3.21 7.2
SC 2665 LAD (07) 22 2687 ChC
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 12:18 PM
So Ozzie Guillen chews out his rookie for not hitting a batter after A.J. was. The poor kid was shown weeping in the dugout. Where's SC posting..."There's no crying in baseball".
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Where's SC posting..."There's no crying in baseball".
Too busy crying about my poor showing in this stupid game.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 01:21 PM
If you didn't start three days late I bet you'd be 7th instead of 9th, though.
:p
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 01:30 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
If you didn't start three days late I bet you'd be 7th instead of 9th, though.
And if I knew how to pick a pitching staff I'd be in third or fourth.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 04:33 PM
What's with the Question mark after my pick Plaw?
Never heard of Miner?
SC, what Plaw is trying to say to you is that if you hadn't joined the game so late, you would be ahead of me also!
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
What's with the Question mark after my pick Plaw?
Never heard of Miner? I've heard of him.
I'm wondering if
you ever heard of him.
The question mark is because I think that the pick is questionable.
I'm the
de facto daily scorekeeper/commentator, and that qualifies as a comment.
As you have certainly seen from watching our pitching staff choices every day, there are days in which there seems to be one standout pitcheer that everyone goes with, while some days the choice seems to be between several pitchers, as it was today.
But where you came up with Miner from is mystifying.
Not to say that he won't go out and pitch a 3-hit shutout, but I'd still be wondering what your basis was for picking him.
SC, what Plaw is trying to say to you is that if you hadn't joined the game so late, you would be ahead of me also! No, that's not what I'm
trying to say.
That's
exactly what I'm saying. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 06:03 PM
David Wright is
a'ight.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 10:14 PM
oohh come oon please how hard is it to finish an inning???? today it was the the Padres' blowpen turn to fuck me. wonder who will be tomorrow.
Originally posted by Beth E:
David Wright is a'ight. of course, I passed on him in the last minute. it wouldn't bother me at all if I could just pick a decent PS.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 10:37 PM
Pat Burrell doesn't play like a girl.
Sorry, that's the best I could come up with.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/15/06 10:38 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
The question mark is because I think that the pick is questionable.
I'm the de facto daily scorekeeper/commentator, and that qualifies as a comment.
As you have certainly seen from watching our pitching staff choices every day, there are days in which there seems to be one standout pitcheer that everyone goes with, And being 700 points behind the first and and almost 150 points behind the 5th place team, I should pick the same pitching staff that they pitch? Nahhh. I'm a gambling man and being this far back in the standing at this point in the season, I'm gonna take my shots and hope that one of my outrageous picks, a pick that I would bet the house on that no one else is going to make that day, will come through while the "standout Pitchers" that most of the others pick that day goes bust. Hey, what have I got to lose at this point? Absolutely nothing.
Don Cardi
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:11 AM
SC, I just had to tell you...I watched Field of Dreams tonight!
And this is about what I look like right now -->
I'd seen the movie before, but it's been a long while.
Here recently, perhaps with it being baseball season, I got the strong desire to see it again - I finally managed to find a DVD copy, and it's now a permanent part of my collection.
I forgot what an absolutely incredible movie it is. Actually, though I've always liked it, I think it means even more to me now, because baseball means even more to me now. I laughed often, had tears streaming down my face during several scenes, and a few parts even gave me chills.
I mean, that's baseball right there, you know? That intangible spirit and magic of the game is shown and felt through this movie somehow...it's wonderful.
Anyway, I know you're a fan, and I thought of you during the "Wanna have a catch?" scene, and I had to tell you.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 08:42 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
SC, I just had to tell you...I watched Field of Dreams tonight!
And this is about what I look like right now -->
There's no crying in baseball!!
I'm glad you liked the movie. Its my favorite.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 11:08 AM
Is there some unwritten rule that I'm not allowed to have good pitching and offense in the same day?
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 12:01 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Thursday's Probables
PL ChC Zambrano 8-6 2.93 11.9
DC Det Miner(?) 1-1 4.50 3.5
[/b]
Originally posted by plawrence:
The question mark is because I think that the pick is questionable. where you came up with Miner from is mystifying.
THURSDAY JUNE 15th
DET : TOTAL = 31
CUBS: TOTAL = 16
;)
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
THURSDAY JUNE 15th
DET : TOTAL = 31
CUBS: TOTAL = 16
Oh Yeah? Well...
FRIDAY, JUNE 16th
PL 3340 ChC (16) 64 3404
DC 2800 Det (31) 56 2856 548 Points Behind
Your point?
If it's that you had a higher pitching score than I did yesterday, well, thanks for pointing that out. I might not have noticed otherwise. :rolleyes:
That doesn't make the pick any less questionable, unless you care to supply us with your line of reasoning.
Of course I
certainly wouldn't expect you to divulge any of the strategy secrets you employed that led you to the pick.
It appears, however, that since your team is exactly the same today as yesterday's, you might have picked for several days at once - perhaps you're not going to be around this weekend? - in which case you might have felt that the Detroit PS for
the next few days was your best option.
Which, of course, is totally understandable and would explain yesterday's and today's pick.
Otherwise, it simply appears to be a case of what MaryCas always says about the blind squirrel occasionally finding the nut.
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables
DB 3517 SaD (01) 27 3544 Min Liriano 4-1 1.24 14.4
PL 3340 ChC (16) 64 3404 Min
JL 3340 ChC (16) 37 3377 Min
TM 3283 SaD (01) 32 3315 Min
JG 3202 ChC (16) 40 3242 Ari Webb 9-5 2.06 14.6
CC 2926 Bos (04) 41 2967 Ari
DC 2800 Det (31) 56 2856 Det Robertson 8-5 3.50 7.4
GG 2752 CWS (21) 45 2797 Ari
SC 2687 ChC (16) 34 2721 Ari
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 02:04 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
That doesn't make the pick any less questionable, unless you care to supply us with your line of reasoning.
Of course I certainly wouldn't expect you to divulge any of the strategy secrets you employed that led you to the pick.
[/CODE]
Why don't you try scrolling up and reading the post that I made a few posts above. Perhaps if you looked before you opened that very opinionated mouth of yours every once in a while, you wouldn't get stuck with your foot in it as much as you've managed to do lately. :p
Originally posted by plawrence:
It appears, however, that since your team is exactly the same today as yesterday's, you might have picked for several days at once - perhaps you're not going to be around this weekend? - in which case you might have felt that the Detroit PS for the next few days was your best option.
Is that what you did over in the Fantasy Golf game?
Seriously though, that is not the case at all. I've been setting my line-up everyday since the season began. Of course when I go on vacation that will obviously change. As a matter of fact, if you remember, my complaint about this game is that you cannot pre-set your line-ups/picks more than a day in advance.
Glad to see that being the "defacto daily scorekeeper you've decided to also qualify yourself as the commentator. But you left out 2 very important words in your self titled position :
very opinionated commentator. :p
Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 02:53 PM
You're sooooo sensitive, DC.
For years we've been playing this game and questioning each others strange picks from time to time, especially when we get down near the end and the issue of making deliberate - we call it "going unpredictable" - picks that seem crazy but are designed to go against the grain because that's the only shot someone has to make up ground.
But sheesh....
Anytime I question one of your picks, you get all insulted and everything.
Anyway....All commentators are opinionated - that comes with the territory and it's their right to be.
As far as my foot in my mouth goes, I
still say the pick was questionable, and you'd be hard pressed, I think, to find someone who doesn't agree with me.
Yeah, it happened to work out this time.
Congratulations.
Maybe the reason that you're so far behind in the standings is because
most of the time those questionable picks
don't work out.
Let's see what happens with your questionable pick of Robertson today.
And remember the blind squirrel..... :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:12 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Let's see what happens with your questionable pick of Robertson today.
Well, I hope Robertson isn't THAT "questionable" -- I have him in the other game. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:20 PM
So much hostility - I thought I clicked on a political thread.
:p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:23 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
You're sooooo sensitive, DC.
Not at all. You always talk about the trash talking that goes on in your fantasy games, and whenever I respond with a little trash talking and kidding around, you respond with the " your so sensative" and stuff.
Who's really the sensative one here Plaw?
Originally posted by plawrence:
As far as my foot in my mouth goes, I still say the pick was questionable, and you'd be hard pressed, I think, to find someone who doesn't agree with me.
Well actually you asked me why I would not share my strategy for that pick, and that is why I made the foot in the mouth reference. You asked that question wayyy after I posted why I made that pick. Hence, foot in the mouth.
Oh, and beside, I thought that you knew me well enough by now, but I guess that I was wrong. So I'll remind you again that I really couldn't care what you or anyone else for that matter thinks about my picks, if they are questionable, suck, or whatever. It's only a stupida focking game mang!
Remember, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one!
Would you care to share with me why you haven't made your picks in Golf? After all, weren't you the one who said that anyone who joins these fantasy games should stay committed and take their games seriously?
Not being sensative Plaw, just spewing the shit that you've flung right back at ya!
Enjoy your
fantasy world!
:p
Don Cardi
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
So much hostility - I thought I clicked on a political thread.
Right??
I'm waiting for the "time to hang flower baskets" and "you live in your mother's basement" comments.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
So much hostility - I thought I clicked on a political thread.
Fustrated wannabe Managers? Fustrated wannabe players? I really don't know.
No hostility at all. Just the facts.
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
It's only a stupida focking game mang!
Bite your tongue! :p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:37 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[b]It's only a stupida focking game mang!
Bite your tongue! :p
[/b][/quote]I've bitten it all morning long.
Don Cardi
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:40 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Bite your tongue!
But stay away from Geoff's tongue (sandwich).
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:46 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] Bite your tongue!
But stay away from Geoff's tongue (sandwich). [/b][/quote]I'll leave Geoff's tongue (sandwich) for Mig.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:47 PM
Originally posted by SC:
But stay away from Geoff's tongue (sandwich).
I didn't comment in the thread a few months back, but do you guys really find this appealing??!!
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:50 PM
Thats great, Douche. You just made Geoff drool all over his keyboard.
I, personally, can't stand that stuff, but I'd love a pastrami sandwich now.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 03:57 PM
Originally posted by SC:
You just made Geoff drool all over his keyboard.
Should I?...
No, I shouldn't...
Too easy and he is Don after all. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 04:04 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
You always talk about the trash talking that goes on in your fantasy games, and whenever I respond with a little trash talking and kidding around, you respond with the " your so sensative" and stuff.
Who's really the sensative one here Plaw?
You.
I commented on your pick, and you got all huffy.
Originally posted by plawrence:
Well actually you asked me why I would not share my strategy for that pick, and that is why I made the foot in the mouth reference. You asked that question wayyy after I posted why I made that pick. Hence, foot in the mouth.
Oh, and beside, I thought that you knew me well enough by now, but I guess that I was wrong. So I'll remind you again that I really couldn't care what you or anyone else for that matter thinks about my picks, if they are questionable, suck, or whatever. It's only a stupida focking game mang!
Remember, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one! I missed the post where you explaind your strategy.
Mea culpa Anyway, another example of huffiness:
I really couldn't care what you or anyone else for that matter thinks about my picks, if they are questionable, suck, or whatever. Would you care to share with me why you haven't made your picks in Golf? After all, weren't you the one who said that anyone who joins these fantasy games should stay committed and take their games seriously?
Let's make an important distinction here:
That only apllies in games in which someone's performance or non-performance affects the other players.
In one of these salary cap games, I couldn't care less if someone stops playing completely.
AAMOF- and I know I've said this before - in a salary cap game, the more dropouts the better. The field is reduced and there's less competition, not to mention less work for the commentator/scorekeeper.
As far as the golf games goes, I stopped playing because except for a handful of golfers I never heard of any of these guys, I don't play or follow the game, I get no enjoyment whatsoever from the fantasy game since I
don't watch golf on TV or follow the players, and my good or bad performance was based strictly on luck.
It certainly wasn't because I was doing poorly at it; As I recall I was doing rather well when I stopped playing.
But why play if it's no fun?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 04:05 PM
That sandwich is horrid looking. I would say I lost my lunch, except I haven't eaten yet. Now I don't think I will.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 04:22 PM
geez! let's focus on the sports and let the fantasy aside!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
It's not hostility at all Don Sicilia, SC, at least on my part. It's just that some people, for reasons that are deeper than they appear on the surface, feel the need to dis what other's do, or make negative comments about other's ideas, on a constant basis. I guess that it helps them gain self confidence.
It reminds me of the little league parents who have opinons and negative things to say about the other kids that play. I've found that most of the time the reason for this is because these people themsleves did not have any success in sports as children, so they now live vicariously through their own children, hoping to surpress their own insecurities that they had to grow up with.
Hey, some people feel the need to live vicariously through their children, and others live it through their fantasy sports teams!
Fustrated wannabe Managers? Fustrated wannabe players? I really don't know.
No hostility at all. Just the facts. Calling Dr. Moe.....Calling Dr. Larry.....Calling Dr. Curley
Where's that noted Gangster BB psychiatrist Capo de la Cosa Nostra when we need him?
Please.....don't tempt me to start doing some amateur psychoanalyzing of my own, or this could really start to get ugly.
From one little question mark, wondering how a guy could pick a particular pitcher.... :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 05:28 PM
Ok, I think I finally get it now. You can say, do, comment and question whoever you want, whenever when you want and how you want. And it's ok.
But once someone questions you and why you are saying something or commenting on something, you say that you are only kidding. And as soon as someone kids you back and talks some trash about you, then it's not ok. Then according to you, that person is getting huffy and sensative.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 06:23 PM
Huh?
I think the comments in the thread speak for themselves here.
I'll leave it to the readers to decide who's saying what to who (or is it "whom"?).
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 06:39 PM
Please Plaw, stop the whining already. I was only kidding around with you in all of this and you've taken things too seriously. So before one of us says something to the other that we'll later regret saying, and to spare the others here from enduring anymore boring posts, I suggest that we end this now.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 06:56 PM
Loosen up guys... :p
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight
Gonna grab some afternoon delight
My motto's always been, "When it's right, it's right"
Why wait until the middle of a cold dark night?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
Please Plaw, stop the whining already. I was only kidding around with you in all of this and you've taken things too seriously. So before one of us says something to the other that we'll later regret saying, and to spare the others here from enduring anymore boring posts, I suggest that we end this now.
Originally posted by plawrence:
Huh?
I think the comments in the thread speak for themselves here.
I'll leave it to the readers to decide who's saying what to who (or is it "whom"?) and who's doing the whining and who started with the kidding around and who took it seriously.
And I had the impression that I was ending it with my last post.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Loosen up guys... :p
Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight
Gonna grab some afternoon delight
My motto's always been, "When it's right, it's right"
Why wait until the middle of a cold dark night?
You're engaged now. Shouldn't this stuff stop?
Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 07:27 PM
Delurking to say that the two of you (Plaw and DC) might as well just stand next to one another and measure who can piss furthest (or is it farthest, Plaw, my Grammar King?). And I swear, if one of you replies to this with "He started it," I'm going to smack your heads together like the two coconuts you are!!!
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 07:28 PM
And he just continues to carry on. :rolleyes:
Plaw. Check your PM.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
You're engaged now. Shouldn't this stuff stop? It stops??
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/16/06 07:42 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I'll leave it to the readers to decide who's saying what to who (or is it "whom"?).
It's who
m, because you can replace it with "hi
m" (as opposed to "he" (who))
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
...measure who can piss furthest (or is it farthest, Plaw, my Grammar King?).
As you can see, Plaw isn't the Grammar King, I am. :p
It's "
farthest" because you're referring to
physical distance (far).
I hope this lesson helps
further yall's grammar.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 12:59 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
the blind squirrel occasionally finding the nut.
How can I get my hands on those nuts?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 01:04 AM
Figures Bethie would post that just before my announcement that I won't be around this weekend because I'm going to Maryland...
We're doing Fathers Day at my brother's, so I'll have limited online time Saturday & Sunday... but I'll check in at night at least! Mods can call my cell for board
emergencies...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 02:37 AM
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
(Plaw and DC) might as well just stand next to one another and measure who can piss furthest (or is it farthest
It won't be me. I can't piss very far at all anymore.
As the male ages, the prostate usually enlarges, which cuts down on the strength and distance of the stream.
Or is that "TMI", as you say?
As far (or is it "fur") as the "farther" vs. "further" question goes, I had to look that one up.
My dictionary - American Heritage, 1991 - makes no distinction.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 04:43 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
My dictionary - American Heritage, 1991 - makes no distinction.
I learned it as one is physical, and the other metaphorical. However, here's the "Usage Note":
Usage Note:
Since the Middle English period many writers have used farther and further interchangeably. According to a relatively recent rule, however, farther should be reserved for physical distance and further for nonphysical, metaphorical advancement. Thus 74 percent of the Usage Panel prefers farther in the sentence If you are planning to drive any farther than Ukiah, you'd better carry chains, and 64 percent prefers further in the sentence We won't be able to answer these questions until we are further along in our research. In many cases, however, the distinction is not easy to draw. If we speak of a statement that is far from the truth, for example, we should also allow the use of farther in a sentence such as Nothing could be farther from the truth. But Nothing could be further from the truth is so well established as to seem a fixed expression.
I prefer the rule of farther = physical, further = metaphorical. :p
Damn, I gotta get up at 6AM and I'm worried about THIS??
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 05:06 AM
Apparently it's not a rule though, but a matter of preference.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 05:08 AM
As a matter of preference, then, I prefer to follow the rules. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 06:50 AM
As for this game, tho, I give up... and not cuz of the 6 pts in pitching... but the OVERALL
11 POINTS!!! :rolleyes:
Why do I bother spending so much time picking a "perfect" lineup to get 11 pts...? :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 01:07 PM
Quit the whining....you got 12, not 11. :p
I had half the same team as you did, and wound up with 4 points of offense.
Going into the late games I figured I was in decent shape because I still had three guys going, but they combined for an 0-12.
Plus, stupidity of stupidity, I forgot that there's no DH in the NL parks, so I had Gomes in my lineup
At least I had the right PS, though.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 01:14 PM
Friday's Scores & Saturday's Probables
DB 3544 Min (33) 47 3591 SaF Schmidt 8-5 2.46 14.5
PL 3404 Min (33) 37 3441 SaF
JL 3377 Min (33) 49 3426 NYM Martinez 8-5 2.94 14.8
TM 3315 Min (33) 73 3388 SaF
JG 3242 Ari (06) 12 3254 SaF
CC 2967 Ari (06) 16 2983 NYM
DC 2856 Det (19) 34 2890 Det Verlander 9-4 3.32 8.3
GG 2797 Ari (06) 28 2825 CWS Contreras 7-4 2.62 12.3
SC 2721 Ari (06) 25 2746 CWS
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/17/06 03:32 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Figures Bethie would post that just before my announcement that I won't be around this weekend because I'm going to Maryland... Oh yeah, it's sunny and in the 90's here. Why couldn't you do that for me last week?
Posted By: Mignon
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[quote]Originally posted by SC:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] Bite your tongue!
But stay away from Geoff's tongue (sandwich). [/b][/quote]I'll leave Geoff's tongue (sandwich) for Mig.
Don Cardi
[/b][/quote]Geez I didn't know my name was mentioned in here. I should read this thread more often. I feel so loved
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:13 AM
I've been trying for an hour to log into BBC, and it's down.
Only 1:45 minutes left to change rosters.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:16 AM
I see it's down now, but I was just in there maybe 20 minutes or so ago and it was fine.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:18 AM
Hmmmm...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:30 AM
As I recall, the last time you didn't get to change your team because you were, um, "delayed (
) in A.C., you did better than anyone else.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:37 AM
Guys, let's face it. In this game, the more you try, the less you score.
Be thankful for this.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:46 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
As I recall, the last time you didn't get to change your team because you were, um, "delayed ( ) in A.C., you did better than anyone else. Yeah...And I'd have Glavine pitching, with the Mets due for a win.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:55 AM
Seems OK now.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 05:59 AM
yeah. just got in.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 01:55 PM
Saturday's Scores and Sunday's Probables
DB 3591 SaF (-08) 22 3613 Min Santana 10-4 2.99 14.2
PL 3441 SaF (-08) 24 3465 Min
JL 3426 NYM (15) 25 3451 Min
TM 3388 SaF (-08) 41 3429 Min
JG 3254 SaF (-08) 31 3285 Min
CC 2983 NYM (15) 49 3032 Min
DC 2890 Det (13) 45 2935 Bos Schilling 11-3 3.59 11.2
GG 2825 CWS (18) 53 2878 Tor Halladay 11-2 2.75 11.5
SC 2746 CWS (18) 36 2782 Bos
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/18/06 06:46 PM
Of course David Wright hits a grand slam on a day I don't have him in my line up. :rolleyes:
Did you enjoy it DB? :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/19/06 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Of course David Wright hits a grand slam on a day I don't have him in my line up. :rolleyes:
Did you enjoy it DB? :p
It was satisfactory.
Last week was too up-and-down. Not enjoyable at all.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/19/06 09:11 PM
what's with all the missed days, plaw???
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
what's with all the missed days, plaw???
I texted PL before, and apparently he lost his Net connection until tomorrow or something...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 12:39 AM
Sunday's Scores & Monday's Probables
DB 3613 Min (27) 52 3665 DET Bonderman (7-6, 4.01) @MIL
JL^ 3451 Min (27) 71 3522 DET
PL 3465 Min (27) 54 3519 DNP
TM 3429 Min (27) 63 3492 DET
JG 3285 Min (27) 57 3342 OAK Haren (8-6, 3.44) @COL ;)
CC 3032 Min (27) 48 3080 NYY Johnson (9-6, 5.32) @PHI
DC 2935 Bos (-1) 17 2952 ARI Vargas (6-6, 5.21) @PIT
GG 2878 Tor (12) 32 2910 DET
SC 2782 Bos (-1) 21 2803 NYY
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 06:08 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
@COL Well, so much for
that "unique pick"... :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 06:26 AM
Monday's Scores (unofficial)
& Tues Probables
DB 3665 DET (35) 72 3737 LAD Penny (9-5, 2.49) vSEA
JL 3522 DET (35) 63 3585 HOU Oswalt (7-6, 3.21) vMIN
TM^ 3492 DET (35) 56 3548 DET Miner (2-1, 2.65) @MIL
PL 3519 DNP (--) 14 3533 CIN Ramirez (4-5, 3.44) @NYM
JG 3342 OAK (02) 41 3383 LAD
CC 3080 NYY (11) 44 3124 NYY Mussina (9-6, 3.14) @PHI
DC 2952 ARI (24) 39 2991 LAD?
GG 2910 DET (35) 51 2961 LAD
SC 2803 NYY (11) 46 2849 NYY
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 06:47 AM
Well, if Plaw's not playing, why should I?
(Just an excuse for my lack of spirit and skill for this game.
)
Plaw, get that Net fixed - nothing stands in the way of fantasy, remember? At least that's what you taught me.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 11:07 AM
I didn't change my roster yesterday. No great excuse except...I forgot.
I got swamped at work, and we had a thunderstorm last night so was not on the net when I got home. This should be good. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 01:43 PM
Sorry to hear about your net troubles, guys.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 01:47 PM
oh my god!! I was in doubt about what PS I was gonna pick so I set my lineup and didn't remember to change it!! now that's a new one...
just when plaw gave me 3rd place... I wonder what this kid Miner will bring
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 01:51 PM
I wouldn't sweat it TM. There wasn't an obvious choice last night and your pick is just as good as any.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 02:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I wonder what this kid Miner will bring
Don Cardi
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 08:02 PM
yes DB, if you look at this way, I actually got lucky.
the only reason why I forgot was the fact that there wasn't a stand out pick, so I thought "okay, I'll start picking some hitters and see how it works out". it wouldn't have happened if Johan Santana or P-Mart were pitching anyway.
well DC, I don't expect such a luck out like you did
a rookie pitcher that 17 innings of experience and is facing one of the best offenses in MLB at their home has got be in trouble. I'd take a 10 pts anytime.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/20/06 08:12 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
(Just an excuse for my lack of spirit and skill for this game. )How's your school league going, Gina?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 01:28 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
How's your school league going, Gina?
The dedicated few up top are still fighting it out, but I think the pool is the only thing keeping them going. Some who have done little to nothing on their lineups are maintaining decent positions, which I can't quite explain. Several people who I really considered the top players have lost interest, much like myself, and it's sad to see them drop in the standings.
If only you guys could've seen what it was like when we were still in school. Every day, I'd bring that score sheet, and it'd be the first topic of discussion when I saw any of the other players. People would gripe about pitching, whisper about doubleheaders, discuss strategy tips, form alliances, hire others to set their lineups when they couldn't, trash talk each other, and of course brag about their good days. Basically, like what we do here.
Anyway, thanks for asking about it, CS...but all of that was lost when we left each other for the summer, and the spirit has gradually faded.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 05:32 AM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I don't expect such a luck out
Anti-jinx!!! :p Why doesn't that ever work for me?
I feel sorry for anyone who took StL...
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 12:20 PM
ooh the good ol' days in high school... it's all downhill from there, gina.
about the PS, well, I swear I'm not gonna whine in a long time. it was a bigger luck out than I ever expected. makes you feel dumb since you break your mind sometimes to pick a PS that gets bombed and then you get a 1 run game by accident.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 02:04 PM
This game sucks. I may not play next half.*
* Actually, some of you already know that I'm not playing next half because, among other reasons, there are at least two weeks in August where fantasy baseball will be the furthest thing from my mind.
In any case, this is the second time in as many weeks the Seattle offense has screwed over my pitching staff. I'm not one for making grandiose statements, but this is the last time I'm picking against them - ever.**
** Until the next time I do.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 02:39 PM
save your anger, DB. the Mariners screwed me once also and they would've done it again yesterday if.... (you know)
if you do not play, it will be obvious that the Gangster BB fantasy sports will be falling apart. plaw hasn't already posted in 2 days...
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
* Actually, some of you already know that I'm not playing next half because, among other reasons, there is at least two weeks in August where fantasy baseball will be the furthest thing from my mind.
Look at this crap.... he's gonna go off and get married and he no longer has to worry about getting to second base. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 03:03 PM
According to Bethie, she says that after a while, I'll be spending a lot of time on the on-deck circle.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 04:32 PM
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's Probables
DB 3737 LAD (-09) 05 3746 PIT Snell (8-6, 4.71) @KC
JL 3585 HOU (05) 40 3627 ARI Webb (9-6, 2.37) @TB
TM 3548 DET (27) 60 3608 ARI
PL 3533 CIN (-14) 16 3549 LAD Billingsley (1-0, 3.38) vSEA
JG 3383 LAD (-09) 25 3407 CHC Zambrano (8-7, 2.82) @CLE
CC 3124 NYY (04) 27 3152 ATL Hudson (10-5, 3.88) vTOR
DC 2991 LAD (-09) 24 3015 ARI
GG 2961 LAD (-09) 17 2979 ARI
SC 2849 NYY (04) 26 2879 STL Marquis (9-5, 4.55) @CWS
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 05:36 PM
***As Don Cardi reads the standings he sings out loud to the tune of "Slip Sliding Away, Slip Sliding Away, You know the nearer........"***
Don Cardi
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
ooh the good ol' days in high school... it's all downhill from there, gina.
I'd laugh, but I'm worried you're right.
Well, there's the college days, but then it's on to the real world.
Time goes by far too fast.
CS, just because you're getting married, it doesn't mean that you can, even for one day, set aside fantasy sports. Always top priority - forget life-changing events...we live for this. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/21/06 11:19 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
CS, just because you're getting married, it doesn't mean that you can, even for one day, set aside fantasy sports. Always top priority - forget life-changing events...we live for this. :p
Spoken like a true plaw protege.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Spoken like a true plaw protege. Only thing is, he never would've put the emoticon...he would've been serious.
I'm not going to deny it. I miss the windbag. And I know y'all do, too. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 12:18 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I'm not going to deny it. I miss the windbag. And I know y'all do, too. :p
Don't say it out loud. He'll get a swelled head.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
He'll get a swelled head.
He still has some Viagra left?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 02:08 AM
Everyobody miss me?
Didn't think so
After two days of crashed internet and having to deal with all of my wonderful old friends at*#&%$#%*&#$* Comcast (
), I needed some successful time at the poker tables of Atlantic Cty (followed by a substantial amount of sleep to make up for an all-nighter) to relieve myself of the stress.
I'll try and get all of the scores for both games updated by some time tomorrow.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 02:12 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Everyobody miss me?
Worry about you, Yes. Miss you, No. :p
Welcome back.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 02:13 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Everyobody miss me? *I* sure as hell did!! ...I hate doing the BBC standings :p
Welcome back.
Posted By: Mignon
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 02:26 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Everyobody miss me?
Of course I did. The BB is just not the same without you Neal. Are ya going to miss me? I'm going on vacation tomorrow for a couple weeks.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 03:41 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Everyobody miss me?
Believe it or not, I did. Don't know why I did, but I did. :p
Hey, in honor of your usual negative commentary about how I play this game, I poked a little fun at myself while you were gone.
Yeah you old windbag, I have to say that I really missed you.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 03:51 AM
Me too, me too, I missed you too!! :p
More importantly, did you miss
us?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 04:21 AM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
More importantly, did you miss us?
That was never part of the deal.
I've missed seeing you, too, Zia! Maybe I've just been in the wrong threads, but I haven't seen you posting as much. We need more World Cup material over in the Ladies' Thread. As in...
visual material.
:p
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 06:30 AM
I know when I'm needed. I'll get on it immediately. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 11:09 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[QB] Everyobody miss me?
Didn't think so
You should call..we worry.
Don't worry though. You know I always have ways to track you down. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/22/06 08:07 PM
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables
DB 3746 PIT (-01) 37 3783 NYM Pedro (8-6, 3.01) vCIN
JL 3627 ARI (10) 32 3659 NYM
TM 3608 ARI (10) 44 3652 NYM
PL 3549 LAD (-13) 04 3553 TAM Kazmir (10-5, 3.39) vARI
JG 3407 CHC (14) 27 3434 MIN Liriano (6-1, 2.16) @HOU*
CC 3152 ATL (00) 30 3182 BAL Benson (9-6, 4.32) vFLA
DC 3015 ARI (10) 47 3062 STL Reyes (1-2, 2.25) @CWS
GG 2979 ARI (10) 25 3004 NYM
SC 2879 STL (-26) 03 2882 NYM
* vs Clemens 2006 debut
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 04:14 AM
I guess I have you to thank for this, Geoff.
And to make you feel even more guilty...I was there.
I really did go, thanks only to my uncle's company providing Astros tickets for their employees on a regular basis. I was really lucky that my uncle was able to snatch them for tonight's game - I'm not foolish (nor rich) enough to cough up the high prices some people were willing to. I'll tell you, it's amazing what people will pay for one game...I never would wish a loss on Rog or the team, but now that it's over, it's funny to consider how much money people wasted.
Baseball's a business - that's for sure.
Anyway, I know most of y'all don't care about the Rocket on a personal level, so I won't go on about him, but it was nice to welcome him back. He had a rough outing, but the (lack of) offense was more to blame.
So...thanks a lot, Geoff!!! You and your stupid anti-jinx. :p
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 04:51 AM
So did Rog start playing? I'll have to take him off my bench in Yahoo. I knew it'd be a good idea to keep him.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 05:31 AM
All of a sudden you're worried about your Yahoo team?
There are a bunch of things you should have done the past few weeks besides worry about Roger Clemens. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 05:46 AM
Hey, wasn't Anti-Jinxing™ (yeah, it IS a treadmark! :p
) anyone... I was worried Rog would thro a 2-hitter or something!
But, I knew my (6-1, 2.16) boy would pull thru...
TOO BAD I HAD NO OFFENSE, THO! Except 14 pts from *2* of my scrub picks!!! :rolleyes:
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 06:26 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
All of a sudden you're worried about your Yahoo team?
Totally... I'm losing sleep and everything. You should see me.
So I should have been doing other things too? Like what? By the way, whoever promised me early on that Yahoo was a "set it and forget it" game only lied to lure me in. I've been getting nothing but whines from you guys about my participation! Or lack thereof. :p
By the way, my quarter ended yesterday. A's in everything. Yayyy!!! And 3 months off. Double yay!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 11:08 AM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables
DB 3783 NYM (27) 56 3839 Min Santana 11-4 2.87 14.5
JL 3659 NYM (27) 48 3707 Min
TM 3652 NYM (27) 43 3695 NYM Glavine 13-2 3.48 8.7
PL 3553 Tam (33) 65 3618 Min
JG 3434 Min (28) 45 3479 Min
CC 3182 Bal (-2) 27 3209 Min
DC 3062 StL (26) 44 3106 Bos Beckett 9-5 5.09 4.9
GG 3004 NYM (27) 34 3038 NYM
SC 2882 NYM (27) 46 2928 CWS Contreras 8-4 2.96 11.8
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 12:46 PM
Orioles bullpen. &*%*&#(*****!!!
And people wonder why I hate The Orioles.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 02:28 PM
10 Things I Think I Think (ala Peter King)
1 - Plaw, your internet still down?
2 - Congrats Zia on finishing the quarter (kinda late, isn't it?).
3 - Where's DMC been?
4 - Gina - good job taking pics at the Lastros game. Glad to know you were focused on the game itself... I especially found it funny when you labeled a pic "My Crush" and all you showed was some guy's butt. :p
5 - Zia, the Yahoo game is set it and forget it. The "set it" part though means you have to set it to guys who are good (or actually playing).
:p
6 - Too bad the US couldn't make it out of group play in the World Cup. I have to admit - a goal in soccer is more exciting than any other scoring play in any other sport (save for freak occurences like a hole-in-one in golf).
7 - Have you guys figured out your reunion thing yet? It seems more complicated than planning my wedding! :p
8 - Not playing in the second half has given me great clarity and focus that I can predict the following for the second half:
- Ratio of how many times Zia changes her team to how many times Zia's name is taken on and off the standings by JG: 9:8
- How many times JG complains about something, anything: 362
- How many times Plaw says that the last half and last year was a fluke: 15
- How many digs TM will take at Plaw: 6
- How many times Plaw and DC rile each other up because of a "?": 7
9 - And some senior superlatives:
- Player Most Likely to Make a Comeback: Gina
- Player Most Likely Move Up the Standings: SC
- Player Most Likely to Prove Last Year Wasn't a Fluke: JL
- Best Couple: For three years running, still
10 - Quote of the Year: "Like you mean the
"
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
it wouldn't have happened if Johan Santana or P-Mart were pitching anyway.
you might not believe but I did again, and this time Santana WAS pitching. when I thought about fantasy baseball today at class I was sure I had Johan and now I see I forgot again. I was in a rush when I set my team yesterday and I didn't notice. I won't complain because I still have a decent pitching going, but I'm worried I'm developing a mental block or something...
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 03:48 PM
CS, do you have any idea how excited I was to see your trademark Ten Things You Think...? Brightened my day, I'll tell you that.
In my defense, the pic of my crush was the only view I had, since he was facing the other direction the whole time. But don't you agree that it was a nice view? :p I always keep focus on the game, but sometimes even more focus on the players.
And how sweet of you to predict a comeback for me...unfortunately right after a DNP.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
10 - Quote of the Year: "Like you mean the " and I still remember what we were discussing. Reggie Sanders hit a grand slam for me and I got ROBBED the 9 pts!! I still want them back!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 07:08 PM
I guess I missed the Juan Uribe memo.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/23/06 07:36 PM
10 Things... yayyy!!! Always the most exciting thing in this thread. Even more exciting than when I change my team. It was definitely time for a new one, we'd missed it.
Btw, "too bad" that USA didn't make round 2? I mean I know some delusional people thought they'd make it despite being in the same group as Italy and Ghana, but come on.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 06:57 AM
Before anyone questions me,
no -- I didn't "miss" anything... I made only 2 changes after learning about the (
possible) NYY/FLA D/H because I was "happy" with what I had, and doubt that they'll play 2 anyway... I guess we'll find out, huh? :p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 08:09 AM
How come no standings posted for the last two days? Is our friend without service again? Or is he killing them down in AC?
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 01:01 PM
Here ya go, ladies and gentlemen....
DC must be prescient, though....
I
am gonna take a little trip down to A.C. this afternoon for some more poker. If anyone is down there, you can look for me in the poker room at the Taj.
Friday's Scores
DB 3839 Min (28) 44 3883
JL 3707 Min (28) 53 3760
TM 3695 NYM (25) 59 3754
PL 3618 Min (28) 52 3670
JG 3479 Min (28) 60 3539
CC 3209 Min (28) 57 3266
DC 3106 Bos (31) 64 3170
GG 3038 NYM (25) 45 3083
SC 2928 CWS (14) 36 2964
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 01:09 PM
Saturday's Scores & Sunday's Probables
DB 3883 Oak (-12) 17 3900 Det Bonder 8-7 3.82 10.0
JL 3760 LAD (31) 67 3827 Fla Willis 5-10 4.19 4.9 & Sanchez 0-0 0.00 0.0
TM 3754 Bos (26) 55 3809 NYY Mussina 10-6 3.42 11.0 & Chacon 6-5 5.89 -3.6
PL 3670 Min (30) 60 3730 Fla
JG 3539 Cin (08) 36 3575 Det
CC 3266 Cin (08) 42 3308 CWS Vazquez 9-5 4.43 8.9
DC 3170 Cin (08) 46 3216 LAD Penny 9-6 2.83 9.5
GG 3083 NYM (-04) 25 3108 NYM Trachsel 9-5 4.67 2.1
SC 2964 Bos (26) 55 3019 CWS
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 01:31 PM
I missed the d/h but probably wouldn't have picked either team anyway as it looks like rain there. So I doubt they'll get two games in.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 02:11 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
I missed the d/h but probably wouldn't have picked either team anyway as it looks like rain there. So I doubt they'll get two games in.
The Weather Service has just cancelled all the Flood Advisories. Apparently the anticipated rainfall is not materializing. It looks like the Yankees will play two today.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 02:14 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] I missed the d/h but probably wouldn't have picked either team anyway as it looks like rain there. So I doubt they'll get two games in.
The Weather Service has just cancelled all the Flood Advisories. Apparently the anticipated rainfall is not materializing. It looks like the Yankees will play two today. [/b][/quote]I'm hoping this is only a jinx on SC's part.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
I'm hoping this is only a jinx on SC's part. Hmmmmm, Beth is on her knees, praying.....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 02:21 PM
Okay, it's one thing to hope for 2 games and choose one of the PS's -- but TWO of you picked FLA (5-10 Willis + a Rookie) --
AT NYY??!? Hmm... I hope they
do play 2 now...!! :p
(I hope that that is NOT an Anti-Jinx™!
)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 02:22 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] I'm hoping this is only a jinx on SC's part. Hmmmmm, Beth is on her knees, praying.....
[/b][/quote]I knew one day you'd bring me to my knees.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/25/06 05:27 PM
yeah I also was very surprised to see two picks of the Marlins PS. they'll play at least one for sure, and since Mussina was one of the most solid picks in the first place (even without the D/H) I thought I'd take a shoot with him even though I hate the damn Yanks. in fact, I wish there was no D/H anyway because there were already plenty of good options, with Loaiza and Josh BLowers pitching. I was going to load up on the Mets, take the Giants PS and also a few hitters against Loaiza and I hoped I'd have a good day.
now there's this D/H and I know some of my picks makes no sense, like Wright at 3rd base (both A-Rod and Miggy Cabrera are less expensive and might play 2) and Hermida at RF (since I'm supposedly relying on the fact they might play one) but I'll just wait and see how it turns out.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/26/06 12:23 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Okay, it's one thing to hope for 2 games and choose one of the PS's -- but TWO of you picked FLA (5-10 Willis + a Rookie) -- [b]AT NYY??!? Hmm... I hope they
do play 2 now...!! :p
[/b]
Which team has the best record in baseball the last 4 weeks?
6/19/06
MIAMI Joe Girardi is as surprised as anyone.
"I knew we would play better," the Florida Marlins' rookie manager said, "but I did not expect this."
He's surely not alone.
No one could have expected this - a four-week run where the untried, rebuilding and rookie-loaded Marlins were the hottest team in baseball.
Led by a bunch of relative unknowns, the Marlins are 18-6 in their last 24 games and have climbed out of last place in the NL East. Josh Johnson leads the majors with a 2.01 ERA. Dan Uggla has 12 home runs. Scott Olsen has won four consecutive starts.
Who, exactly, are these guys?
They're the future, which right now is looking pretty good.
"I just like how, regardless of how we were playing, we were still coming in and working hard and still believing," said left-hander Dontrelle Willis, who finished second in the NL Cy Young Award balloting last season but is off to a 3-6 start in 2006. "Now it's starting to pay off."
Willis and third baseman Miguel Cabrera - among the NL leaders with a .342 average, 83 hits and 23 doubles - came into this year as the veterans of sorts in the Marlins' clubhouse.
Never mind that Willis is still only 24 and Cabrera just 23, they are the sages on a team that split with Carlos Delgado, Josh Beckett, Mike Lowell, Alex Gonzalez, Juan Pierre, Todd Jones and Luis Castillo from last year's team - slicing $45 million in payroll, down to a major league-low $15 million in 2006.
But a bunch of guys getting their first chance at being major-league regulars - like Johnson, Uggla, Mike Jacobs (.273) and Hanley Ramirez (.268, 20 stolen bases) - are making the most of their opportunity.
"When you've got young guys, rookies, they always want to prove themselves," Girardi said. "It's like they need to show themselves that they can really play on this level."
If there was doubt, it's starting to be erased.
"I don't think in this game you can catch anyone off guard," Uggla said. "People in the game know who's a good team and who's not. We can see who can play and who cannot. At this level, very few people can't play."
The Marlins were 11-31 on May 21, losers of seven straight. They beat the Chicago Cubs 9-1 the next day, and the roll hasn't stopped since. Postseason tickets probably aren't being printed yet, but there's a clear sense of confidence accompanying Florida's current eight-game winning streak - one shy of the team record.
During this 24-game run, Florida has outscored opponents 117-74, is 8-2 in games decided by two runs or less, and has a team ERA of 2.82.
"It all starts with starting pitching," Girardi said. "When you've got that, you've got a chance."
And in the eight-game winning streak, the Marlins' numbers are even better. Team ERA: 1.85. Batting average: .279. Run differential: 37-16.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/26/06 12:44 AM
Doesn't matter to me. I never pick 1) the Yanks PS, or 2) anyone opposing the Yanks PS. :p
BTW - My rain dance isn't working...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/26/06 12:50 AM
You should have taken my offer which included Josh Johnson and his 2.01 ERA.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/26/06 02:04 AM
Sanchez Sanchez.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/26/06 05:50 AM
You're welcome. It's obvious I Anti-Jinxed™ it... :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/26/06 01:46 PM
Man, am I glad last week is over.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/27/06 11:18 PM
I can't get into the ESPN game site or the Yahoo site right now.
Anyone else that's around having a problem?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/27/06 11:26 PM
Weird -- All of my many desk top shortcuts to other websites work fine, except for those for Yahoo and ESPN.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/27/06 11:45 PM
BBC's page is working for me, Plaw.
Apparently some fantasy gamer/computer hacker is out to get you.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/28/06 12:19 AM
Seems to be OK now, thanks.
That was my original thought, thought -- that someone was out there hacking away at the fantasy sports sites.
Probably someone's disgruntled wife or girlfriend.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/29/06 12:07 AM
Rain delay already in the 2nd game. The weathermen can't be trusted. The rain was supposed to end this morning. I guess being out for a total of 8 hours in the past 5 days was too much for the sun to take. The game better not be washed out cause I'm racking up some more points for my offense.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/29/06 02:06 PM
Great score last night, Bethie! Only 10 points away from the game high!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/29/06 02:36 PM
I guess I finally grabbed a nut.
I'd like to know what happened to 4 of my ps points though. Last night it was 32, now it's 28. How ruuuude.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/29/06 11:31 PM
I know I've ben neglecting the scores here.....
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's Probables
DB 4057 Bal (28) 104 4161 Cin Arroyo 11-5 2.58 12.4
JL 3983 Sea (16) 73 4056 Tor Halladay 12-3 3.07 10.5
TM 3959 Min (28) 77 4036 Tor
PL 3881 Bal (28) 94 3975 Tor
JG 3715 Bal (28) 72 3787 SaF Schmidt 8-7 2.82 13.2
CC 3385 Bal (28) 109 3494 CWS Contreras 10-4 3.15 10.1
DC 3357 Det (35) 67 3424 CWS
GG 3219 Bos (29) 49 3268 Bos Schilling 13-3 3.61 10.8 (DNP)
SC 3109 Min (28) 51 3160 CWS
KN 0000 --- (00) 00 0000 Cin Welcome Don Allesandrio (KN)
If I may offer a few words of advice (I see that you've played a few ESPN games in the past)....
The pretty much accepted "right" way to play this game - or at least the way all of those on the Leaderboard play it day after day, year after year - is to change your team every day and make sure that you have a full team of guys who are playing on that particular day.
Occasionally, you may have an outstanding player who you acquired at a low price at the beginning of the season and you think that it pays to hold on to him and suffer the "zero" on his off days in order to keep him locked in at that low price, and that
may sometimes be the case and it might pay to do so.
But the consensus - again among those who are on the Leaderboard (and there are a few who are there year after year) - is that if there are occasions like that, they are very rare.
Also, since pitching generally accounts for, or potentially accounts for, anywhere from 25 to 50% of your sore every day, most people pick their pitching staff first, and then pick an offense based around that with whatever cap room they have left.
Anyway.....Welcome, and enjoy the game.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/30/06 11:27 AM
Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables
DB 4161 Cin (08) 23 4184 Sea Moyer 8-8 3.51 7.1
JL 4056 Tor (19) 52 4108 Det Rogers 12-4 3.44 8.4
TM 4036 Tor (19) 56 4092 Det
PL 3975 Tor (19) 27 4002 Sea
JG 3787 SaF (25) 36 3823 TaB Corcoran 1-0 1.80 8.0
CC 3494 CWS (-10) 08 3502 LAD Penny 10-6 3.06 8.9
DC 3424 CWS (-10) 09 3433 Det
GG 3268 Bos (24) 24 3292 Det
SC 3160 CWS (-10) 20 3180 Det
KN 0000 Cin (08) 27 0027 Cin Ramirez 5-6 3.61 7.7 Welcome Don Allesandrio (KN)
If I may offer a few words of advice (I see that you've played a few ESPN games in the past)....
The pretty much accepted "right" way to play this game - or at least the way all of those on the Leaderboard play it day after day, year after year - is to change your team every day and make sure that you have a full team of guys who are playing on that particular day.
Occasionally, you may have an outstanding player who you acquired at a low price at the beginning of the season and you think that it pays to hold on to him and suffer the "zero" on his off days in order to keep him locked in at that low price, and that
may sometimes be the case and it might pay to do so.
But the consensus - again among those who are on the Leaderboard (and there are a few who are there year after year) - is that if there are occasions like that, they are very rare.
Also, since pitching generally accounts for, or potentially accounts for, anywhere from 25 to 50% of your sore every day, most people pick their pitching staff first, and then pick an offense based around that with whatever cap room they have left.
Anyway.....Welcome, and enjoy the game.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/30/06 10:46 PM
Practically everyone is riding the Griffey train tonight except for TM, who prefers Sizemore.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 06/30/06 11:31 PM
well and I didn't even know that. I've took benefits from Griffey the whole season, it just happened that I had a lot of cap room left yesterday so I came up with Sizemore, one of my favorite players. I believe it's the first time I pick him.
edit: 1 second after writting this, TM checks the CLE-CIN game at mlb.com's gameday just in time to see Sizemore striking out with 2 outs and runners on 2nd and 3rd, finishing the top of the first inning, when the Indians scored 5 runs but leadoff batter Sizemore went 0-2
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 01:02 AM
Since when is Russ Ortiz an Oriole? It would be nice if I kept up with my home team once in awhile. Way to go Angelos. Buy another old man ready for the retirement home. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 03:14 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]Thursday's Scores & Friday's Probables JG 3787 SaF (25) 36 3823 TaB Corcoran 1-0 1.80 8.0
[/b]
this one has got to be the best pick of a PS of the season. who the hell is this guy? Corcoran???
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 03:45 AM
It must of came to him in a vision. :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 06:32 AM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
this one has got to be the best pick of a PS of the season. who the hell is this guy? Corcoran???
Problem is - now you might remember that name next time...
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 06:39 AM
Hey Boss....
According to the scouting reports, this Corcoran is nothing special.
He's 28, and not considered much of a prospect. He broke in last season, and did nothing.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 06:45 AM
Instinct, my friends... and for the first time, it actually worked out!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 06:52 AM
What's that MaryCas always says about the blind squirrel and the nut? :p
Seriously...nice pick, taking TB on the road.
They should give you some kind of multiplier in this game for picks like that, when you take a big underdog.
TB was about a 3-2 underdog. Maybe they should give you 1.5 times his number of points, and when a guy like Santana pitches and he's a 2-1 favorite, only give you half of
his points.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 06:57 AM
Truthfully, I didn't think it was
that crazy -- I saw how he did the first couple outtings... figured, hey, against the Nats... and that was that. Of course, a gamble - but - I really didn't see anything else I liked, considering how much $ the alternatives would've costed... so...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 07:12 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I saw how he did the first couple outtings...
What "first couple of outings"?
This was his second start. His first was a 5 innings, and nothing special. Last year he was shit.
Still, as I said before, "Nice pick."
Anyway....
Surprised how everyone was more San Diego-oriented than San Fran, even though they are the home team.
I thought the pitching matchups definitely favored SF, and they seemed to me to have the better hitters.
In other words, this wasn't a case of me trying to "go unpredictable".
We'll see, I guess.
G'night.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 07:33 AM
My sportsbook has both games of the DH very close.
The first game, Cain vs. Thompson, they have the Giants favored slightly (1.07 - 1.00 on SF, 1.03 - 1.00 on SD).
The second game, Hennessey vs. Williams, they have San Diego as a slight favorite (1.14 - 1.00 on SD, 1.00 - 1.04 on SF).
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 03:37 PM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 03:56 PM
Saturday's Probables - SF@SD D/H
DB JL TM PL JG CC SC
C (Mira.) Greene Bard Greene Piazza Piazza (Napoli)
1B AGonzo AGonzo (Nomar) AGonzo AGonzo AGonzo AGonzo
2B Durham Barfield Barfield Durham Durham Durham Barfield
3B Feliz Feliz Blum Feliz Castilla Feliz (Koskie)
SS Greene Greene Greene Greene Greene Vizguel Greene
LF (Manny) Bonds (Manny) Bonds (Catalan) Bonds Ellison
CF Cameron Cameron Cameron Winn Cameron Cameron Winn
RF Giles Giles Giles Giles Giles Giles Giles
DH (Helms) Finley Finley Finley Finley (Saenz) (Ortiz)
PS SD SD SD SF SD SF SD
SFO (40-39): Cain (8-7, 5.20) & Hennessey (4-1, 2.59)
@SD (42-37): Thompson (4-4, 4.30) & Williams (5-1, 3.27)
DB - Mirabelli, Durham, Manny, Helms
JL - Greene, Adr Gonz, Barfield, Feliz, Bonds, Finley
TM - Bard, Nomar, Barfield, Blum, Manny, Cameron
PL - Greene, Adr Gonz, Durham, Feliz, Bonds, Winn, SF
JG - Piazza, Vinny C, Greene, Catalanato, Cameron, Finley, SD
CC - Piazza, Feliz, Vizquel, Bonds, Cameron, Saenz, SF
SC - Napoli, Barfield, Koskie, Greene, Ellison, Winn, Ortiz, SD
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 04:04 PM
great.
nice work JG, a D/H is not a D/H without that chart. and this is the first time in the season when I'm actually excited about a D/H. Go Pads!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 04:17 PM
I do have to apologize to TM since his move into 2nd Place isn't reflected in the chart which I started last night...
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 05:00 PM
that's only 3 pts it doesn't make difference until it's all said and done
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/01/06 11:54 PM
Saturday's Scores - SFO @ SDG D/H
DB 4215 SDG (14)+(9) 76 4291 Holds on...
TM 4138 SDG (14)+(9) 72 4210 Stays with it...
JL 4135 SDG (14)+(9) 73 4208 Battling it out for 2nd...
PL 4049 SFO (0)+(32) 79 4128 Ways to go still...
JG 3868 SDG (14)+(9) 58 3928 Having a bad year...
CC 3557 SFO (0)+(32) 72 3629 Sixty-Nine still satisfies...
DC 3453 CWS (09) 47 3500 Don't question him!...
GG 3338 DET (10) 38 3376 Too many Willy dreams?...
SC 3206 SDG (14)+(9) 84 3290 Only 1,001 points out of 1st...
KN 0046 CIN (-28) -06 0040 Joe Fuckin' Mays??...
Not sure WTF happened...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 01:02 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
KN 0046 CIN (-28) -06 0040 Joe Fuckin' Mays??...
I don't think he changed his team since he joined, and probably didn't read my little bit of advice.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 01:12 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
CC 3557 SFO (0)+(32) 69 3626 Sixty-Nine satisfies...
While 69 is satisfying, you owe me 3 points. I scored 72. :p
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
While 69 is satisfying, you owe me 3 points. I scored 72.
Dunno if I'd give up a 69 so easily.
Don't feel bad, Beth. I got credit for a 68 but I scored 84 yesterday.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 01:51 PM
I'll update everything later.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 03:50 PM
I fixed the scores - not sure WTF happened.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 04:17 PM
Originally posted by SC:
I got credit for a 68 but I scored 84 yesterday.
I might have gotten screwed out of 69 but you 8-4!!
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 04:32 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] While 69 is satisfying, you owe me 3 points. I scored 72.
Dunno if I'd give up a 69 so easily.
Don't feel bad, Beth. I got credit for a 68 but I scored 84 yesterday. [/b][/quote]Hey, you know a 68 is not that bad either.
69 : "two can chew"
68 : "eat me and I owe you one!"
Don Cardi
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Don Cardi:
68 : "eat me and I owe you one!"
Don Cardi I owe, I owe. So off to work I go.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/02/06 05:26 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I fixed the scores - not sure WTF happened. Geoff...........
[img]
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:mO....8/6905_512.jpg[/img] You're fired!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/04/06 07:02 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Too many Willy dreams?...
He almost got hurt a couple of games ago - he and Chris Burke collided in the outfield. It was scary.
CS, I'm going to the game tomorrow - I don't know how I always manage to catch the Scrubs when they're in town, but I'm looking for revenge. Your guys are 1-6 against us so far this year, and the one game that they won was the one I attended. Heed my warning - if they win tomorrow's game, and I begin to worry that I'm some kind of a jinx (which I will, of course), you'll be the one to blame! :p
Btw, a bit belated perhaps, but congrats on getting Derrek back.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/04/06 08:48 AM
[whine alert]
I had a bad feeling about Santana on the road last night.
So what happens?
Santana does nothing, Minn gets the win and 20 points anyway, and I get one of the best games of the season from Kazmir but the high-priced offense that I put together with all the cap room I had from a 3.4 PS scores me a whopping 9 points.
[/whine alert]
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/05/06 04:21 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Btw, a bit belated perhaps, but congrats on getting Derrek back. Thanks. Today was the first time in a while that I picked a Scrub - Derrek Lee against your Oz
!
I don't know how I ended up with him, but wish me luck. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/05/06 04:47 PM
Oh, I thought you were congratulating ME for getting Derrek back (on my fantasy team)... :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 05:05 AM
God forbid I care about
real baseball, Geoff! :p
You would be so proud of my friend. When he's at a game, he thinks/discusses fantasy more than the Astros. He checks the scoreboard for who needs to win and/or lose, and he actually yells out stuff like, "Go Biggio! That's two points!"
Oh, CS. I don't know what you did to my Wizard, but they were stingy with run support tonight. The poor guy pitched a CG and they just couldn't give him a break.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 11:16 AM
Carl Crawford stole home!!!
Who does he think he is,
The Jet? (Gina will appreciate that one).
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 02:00 PM
Is anyone still playing this game?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 02:07 PM
What do you mean?
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 02:11 PM
This topis is pretty dead, and nobody has bothered to post the scores in almost a week.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 02:17 PM
I think we are all still playing - nobody's just posting.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 02:20 PM
Geoff was fired and plaw doesn't love us anymore.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 02:39 PM
Oh well.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Geoff was fired and plaw doesn't love us anymore.
yeah fantasy world is falling apart. I'm glad we're still playing at least.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Carl Crawford stole home!!! Who does he think he is, The Jet? (Gina will appreciate that one). I
had to comeback and comment this. isn't Crawford the most exciting player out there? I just love this guy. I wish our Yahoo league was a keeper league so I'd keep him until he's 50.
now, I also
had to comment this:
what the hell does that looks like?? I never seen a human being (is it?) in such a weird position. he looks more like an ostrich than like a pitcher.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 04:30 PM
That Carl Crawford steal was awesome. He was almost home before the pitcher even released the ball.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 04:40 PM
A steal of home and an inside-the-park home run are probably the most exciting individual plays in baseball, IMO.
The steal of home, unfortuantely, is a dying art.
I remember about 30 years ago Rod Carew stole home several times in one season.
Jackie Robinson also stole home a bunch of times during his career in the 40's and 50's, but in most cases today it happens only on the front end of a double steal, when a runner draws a throw going from first to second, and the runner on third breaks for home late.
The inside-the-park home run is dying out because the parks are getting smaller.
Before Yankee Stadium was renovated in the 70's, they had the monuments on the actual playing field, and dead center was something like 470 feet from home plate.
Guys used to hit balls that wound up behind the monuments, and there were always several inside-the-park homers in Yankee Stadium every year.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 05:36 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Jackie Robinson also stole home a bunch of times during his career in the 40's and 50's,
Robinson stole home 19 times in his career and was caught only 12 times. Pretty damn good for stealing home.
I believe that he stole home 5 times in a season for two years straight.
But probably the most famous steal of home by Robinson was in the 1955 World Series against the Yankees :
Don Cardi
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 05:40 PM
Was that a picture of Robinson stealing home against the Yanks? I always thought Yogi was catching because right after the ump made the call Yogi got up and started jumping around arguing because it did look like Robinson was out.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
Was that a picture of Robinson stealing home against the Yanks? I always thought Yogi was catching because right after the ump made the call Yogi got up and started jumping around arguing because it did look like Robinson was out.
You're correct. I originally posted the wrong Pic.
The correct one is there now.
Don Cardi
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:06 PM
Great picture!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:08 PM
It definately looks like he's out.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Carl Crawford stole home!!! Who does he think he is, The Jet? (Gina will appreciate that one). Wow! I didn't even hear about that, so I'm glad y'all mentioned it here. I was able to find the video on MLB.com - amazing!
Great Benny reference, Bethie.
This place
is dead, without scores and with little conversation...
And I know I'm not one to talk, with my lack of spirit for the game, but I've been trying to set my lineup more often...so there.
I really miss our fun conversations.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:25 PM
Thursday (4 days to go in 1st Half)
DB 4470 MIL ()
TM 4391 MIL ()
JL 4366 MIL ()
PL 4303 MIL ()
JG 4113 MIL ()
CC 3779 NYY ()
DC 3675 MIL ()
GG 3495 BOS ()
SC 3437 NYY ()
MIL: Capuano (9-4, 3.45) vs CHC
NYY: Johnson (9-7, 5.25) @CLE
BOS: Wakefield (6-8, 3.90) @TAM
(Pitcher W-L record is standard rather than Plaw's way of team performance -- it's faster for me)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:28 PM
I'm going to try to do daily standings when I can, since my workload eased up a little (and since Plaw refuses to do it for some reason :p )... I may even do comments!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:41 PM
Hey Geoff, I didn't DNP last night - I wanted to keep Boston PS for today, but I switched a few batters. See? I do play every so often!
This sounds completely ridiculous coming from me since I've missed so many days, but I'd like to offer to do scores for you if you ever need me to.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:53 PM
Ooops, my bad - sorry! I looked at PS and the first three batters only and thought you hadn't played... not that picking Wakefield made me think you didn't play or anything...
You're such a sweetheart! But as I've said,
anyone who feels ambitious enough can do the standings
Or if someone wants to start it for the day, I could always edit it, etc... it's just kinda tedious to check previous days. I WISH ESPN would do some type of StatTracker like Yahoo has -- it'd be SO much easier!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 07:53 PM
Here's some comments, JG... Songs/song lines that reflect their first half :p
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]Thursday
DB 4470 MIL () "All my bags are packed, I'm ready to go..."
TM 4391 MIL () "All the Way"
JL 4366 MIL () "It was a Very Good Year"
PL 4303 MIL () "In the wee small hours of the morning"
JG 4113 MIL () "I Love This Bar"
CC 3779 NYY () "Proud Mary"
DC 3675 MIL () "Don't, don't, that's what you say" (re: Plaw)
GG 3495 BOS () (DNP) "It Brings a Tear Into my Eyes"
SC 3437 NYY () "Out I started late tonight Blinded by the light"
Bonus:
LZ "Comin' In And Out Of Your Life"
[/b]
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 08:04 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
not that picking Wakefield made me think you didn't play or anything...
There's some great motivation to keep me in the game.
:p
I must've completely missed Capuano...
Well, I might pitch in as "Commish" if I see this thread dying out again.
But I think I'll leave comments to CS.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 08:26 PM
Just let me know Gina. The next time, I'll just leave picture comments.
For example:
GG -
:p
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 08:53 PM
Aww, thanks for the mention, DB!!
And I love the PP&M you're rockin' by your name.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 09:22 PM
I vote for picture comments!!!
As long as things don't get out of hand, that is.
For example, three Jessica Alba pics are posted for every Willy/Benny pic. :p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/06/06 10:49 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I vote for picture comments!!!
As long as things don't get out of hand, that is.
For example, three Jessica Alba pics are posted for every Willy/Benny pic. :p Hey wait a minute. Now I have absolutely NO objection whatsoever to seeing a Jessica Alba pic, but after all this is a BASEBALL topic. So in the spirit of keeping on topic, and within the sport of Baseball, perhaps we should only post baseball related pics in this topic.
However I vote that we start a seperate topic solely dedicated to posting pics of Jessica Alba!
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/07/06 06:37 AM
Thursday (4 days to go in 1st Half)
DB 4470 MIL (32) 51 4521 Glad about Vlad (12)
TM 4391 MIL (32) 68 4459 On the Mirabelli (10) luck-wagon
JL 4366 MIL (32) 81 4447 Thome (16) is his homey
PL 4303 MIL (32) 70 4374 Too busy to do this :/
JG 4113 MIL (32) 67 4180 Gonna beat PL in draft game!
CC 3779 NYY (22) 31 3810 Where's the offense?
DC 3675 MIL (32) 73 3748 Ortiz (17) helped a little
GG 3495 BOS (14) 38 3533 Another w/ Juan Rivera (12)??
SC 3437 NYY (22) 64 3501 With 3 DNPs yet!
MIL: Capuano (9-4, 3.45) vs CHC
NYY: Johnson (9-7, 5.25) @CLE
BOS: Wakefield (6-8, 3.90) @TAM
(Pitcher W-L record is standard rather than Plaw's way of team performance -- it's faster for me)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/07/06 11:16 AM
I didn't want to start a whole thread for this, but thought this was gutt wrenching funny.
DL gives Mark Prior offer. Enjoy DB.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50033
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/07/06 01:35 PM
That was great!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/07/06 01:38 PM
I knew you'd like it DB.
Mike and Mike were mentioning this morning how The Onion one time had a headline, "The Yankees buy every single MLB player".
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/07/06 08:06 PM
Friday (3 days to go in 1st Half)
DB 4521 OAK ()
TM 4459 DET ()
JL 4447 OAK ()
PL 4374 CHC ()
JG 4180 LAA ()
CC 3810 OAK ()
DC 3748 OAK ()
GG 3533 DET ()
SC 3501 SDG () Sporting a Woody today
OAK: Zito (18-5, 3.28) vs LAA
LAA: Lackey (6-5, 3.12) @ OAK
(JG vs DB, JL, CC, DC )DET: Bonderman (7-4, 3.65) @ SEA
CHC: Zambrano (7-3, 3.33) @ MIL
SDG: Woody Wms (3-1, 3.04) @ WAS
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/07/06 08:22 PM
Beth, that was great! "We firmly believe that Mark's best injuries are still ahead of him."
That's hilarious, the whole thing.
Btw: their entire sports section is hilarious... I'd never look at it before, I always used to read just the articles on the main page.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/07/06 11:03 PM
I just had to pass by and say that was too funny
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 01:10 AM
I actually found the article from 2003 where they stated The New York Yankees acquired every single major league player. This stuff is too funny. I'd feel guilty about hijacking this thread, but then again, it's breathing life into this dead dinosaur.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27656
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 01:44 AM
Bethie, great stuff!
Never hesitate to post anything here - it's the random, off-topic conversation I love most!
Check this out...
Rookie Tragically Misinterprets Suicide-Squeeze Sign 
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 01:50 AM
I actually saw that pic and debated whether or not to post it. Heck, we'll have our own onion party. Anyone got some beer nuts?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 02:03 AM
Better than discussing boring stats, right?
I hear about this site a lot, but I've never really taken the time to check it out - you are my inspiration, Beth.
All we gotta do now is post some Willy and Vinny pics, and we'll have another Ladies' Thread.
What scares me about that pic is it could be Jeff Kent - #12 and wearing Dodger Blue.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 02:26 AM
Uh oh, Gina and Crabby alone at night in a fantasy thread. All I can say is....
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 02:46 AM
The question is, what kind of fantasy thread are we going to make this?
The guys' kind (stats, scores, lineups) or the girls' kind (cute guys)...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 06:44 AM
Friday (3 days to go in 1st Half)
DB 4521 OAK (15) 45 4565 Hafner helped...
TM 4459 DET (28) 36 4495 Calling all offense! Hello??
JL 4447 OAK (15) 35 4482 Six zeros...
PL 4374 CHC (24) 52 4426 Ensberg?? Wow...!
JG 4180 LAA (41) 58 4238 Hafner helped...
CC 3810 OAK (15) 43 3853 MatthewsJr is still playing?
DC 3748 OAK (15) 46 3794 Four 0's - But Nomar (10) & Ortiz (11)
GG 3533 DET (28) 56 3586 Nomar like above, but better. ;)
SC 3501 SDG (23) 57 3558 Sporting a Woody today
OAK: Zito (18-5, 3.28) vs LAA
LAA: Lackey (6-5, 3.12) @ OAK
(JG vs DB, JL, CC, DC )DET: Bonderman (7-4, 3.65) @ SEA
CHC: Zambrano (7-3, 3.33) @ MIL
SDG: Woody Wms (3-1, 3.04) @ WAS
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 06:48 AM
41 (hmm, in the draft game it's 50 - and I thought everything was equalized?) has to be some non-D/H record, right? :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 12:43 PM
It's not equalized....
In the Yahoo game you get 1 point for the start, 3 each for the complete game and shutout, and 7 for the win instead of 5.
I seem to think we've done better than 41 in the ESPN game....I remember at least one game the first year when I had Prior in a game that he pitched like a two or three-hit shutout with a ton of strikeouts, but Lackey's 50 is definitely the high for the Yahoo game.
)Note to DC.....
How does a big Mets fan like you miss a doubleheader with them?
)
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 01:10 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
)Note to DC.....
How does a big Mets fan like you miss a doubleheader with them? ) Fair point Plaw and a good question. However, this big Mets fan has seen Willie Randolph's style of managing over the last two seasons and when I made my picks for today I figured that Randolph would sit big hitters like Delgado, Beltran, etc. and rest these guys before the break and give many of his 2nd tier bench guys some playing time instead. I actually made my picks for today, early yesterday morning, before last night's game. And what did Randolph do last night? Exactly what I figured he would do. And I'm betting that he is going to do the same thing today. So being that I felt that Randolph would rest many of his big guns and the fact that the Mets pitching hasn't really been that impressive over the last few weaks, and a non proven pitcher is going for them today, I decided that the DoubleHeader strategy is probably not worth it.
Add that to the fact that there is only 3 games left and I am pretty far behind, I figured that most who are above me would be going the doubleheader route and that I should take a shot and hopefully gain some respectable ground by going against what I figured all those above me would probably do.
Don Cardi
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 01:24 PM
Sound reasoniong for the most part, but you had to figure that there would be at least a few guys between the two teams that would play both games.
I agree with you about the Mets PS....that's why I took Florida.
And if your guess is correct about the regulars not playing both games for the Mets, that makes Florida's PS look even better.
That guaranteed +48 that you get to start with with the visiting team in a dhoubleheader is tough to beat, especially with two decent starters going like Florida has.
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 01:30 PM
BTW, I will probably miss the first week+ of the second half because as you know I will be away for 10 days.
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 04:49 PM
Saturday - FLA @ NYM D/H
DB 4565 LAA ()
TM 4495 FLA ()+()
JL 4482 TAM ()
PL 4426 FLA ()+()
JG 4238 BAL ()
CC 3853 MIN ()
DC 3794 CWS ()
GG 3586 MIN ()
SC 3558 BOS ()
FLA: JJohnson (7-4, 2.34) & Nolasco (6-5, 3.97)
NYM: JMaine (0-2, 5.40) & Pelfrey (0-0, 0.00)
LAA: Weaver (5-0, 1.35) @ OAK
TAM: Kazmir (10-5, 3.29) vs NYY
BAL: Bedard (9-6, 4.44) @ CLE
MIN: Liriano (9-1, 1.99) @ TEX
CWS: Garcia (10-5, 4.72) vs BOS (& SC)
BOS: Beckett (10-5, 4.59) @ CWS (& DC)
DB TM JL PL JG CC GG
C Willing. Willing. Castro Willing. Castro Castro Castro
1B Delgado Jacobs Delgado Jacobs (Conine) Delgado Delgado
2B Woodward Uggla Woodward Woodward Uggla Woodward Woodward
3B Wright MCabrera Wright Wright MCabrera Wright MCabrera
SS HRamirez HRamirez Reyes HRamirez Reyes HRamirez HRamirez
LF Valentin (Swisher)Valentin Valentin Floyd Valentin Valentin
CF Beltran Amezaga Beltran Beltran Beltran Beltran Beltran
RF (Ford) Hermida Nady Hermida (Branyan) Nady Hermida
DH Helms Franco Franco Franco (JRivera) Franco Helms
PS (LAA) FLA (TAM) FLA (BAL) (MIN) (MIN)
Note: JL picks 100% Mets
Who We Want to do Especially Well... DB - Delgado, Woodward, Wright, Valentin, Beltran, Ford, Helms, LAA
TM - Everyone (3 HR)
JL - Castro, Delgado, Woodward, Wright, Reyes, Valentin, Beltran, Nady, TAM
PL - Willingham (HR), Jacobs, Woodward, Wright, HRamirez (HR), Valentin, Hermida, Franco
JG - Castro, Conine, Uggla, MCabrera (HR), Reyes, Floyd, Branyan, Rivera, BAL
CC - Delgado, Woodward, Wright, HRamirez (HR), Valentin, Nady, Franco, MIN
GG - MCabrera (HR), Hermida, Helms, MIN
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 06:27 PM
Wish I had known Reyes was out with a boo-boo on his freakin' pinky... wuss. :rolleyes:
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 08:18 PM
Gotta love Cabrera, though! (For more reasons than one.
)
And as soon as I type this, they take him out.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 08:53 PM
Saturday - FLA @ NYM D/H
DB 4565 LAA (15) 71 4636 Just about sealed it up...
JL^4482 TAM (07) 56 4538 Never go against NYY!
TM 4495 FLA (32)+(-43) 34 4530 Believed PL's false hope?
PL 4426 FLA (32)+(-43) 58 4484 Coulda been a huge night...
JG 4238 BAL (11) 68 4306 Too many mistakes
CC 3853 MIN (33) 88 3941 Chicks Ruled
DC 3794 CWS (-12) 17 3807 Never go against BOS!
GG 3586 MIN (33) 90 3676 Chicks Ruled
SC 3558 BOS (05) 34 3592 Only 1044 pts back
FLA: JJohnson (7-4, 2.34) & Nolasco (6-5, 3.97)
NYM: JMaine (0-2, 5.40) & Pelfrey (0-0, 0.00)
LAA: Weaver (5-0, 1.35) @ OAK
TAM: Kazmir (10-5, 3.29) vs NYY
BAL: Bedard (9-6, 4.44) @ CLE
MIN: Liriano (9-1, 1.99) @ TEX
CWS: Garcia (10-5, 4.72) vs BOS (& SC)
BOS: Beckett (10-5, 4.59) @ CWS (& DC)
DB TM JL PL JG CC GG
C Willing. Willing. Castro Willing. Castro Castro Castro
1B Delgado Jacobs Delgado Jacobs (Conine) Delgado Delgado
2B Woodward Uggla Woodward Woodward Uggla Woodward Woodward
3B Wright MCabrera Wright Wright MCabrera Wright MCabrera
SS HRamirez HRamirez Reyes HRamirez Reyes HRamirez HRamirez
LF Valentin (Swisher)Valentin Valentin Floyd Valentin Valentin
CF Beltran Amezaga Beltran Beltran Beltran Beltran Beltran
RF (Ford) Hermida Nady Hermida (Branyan) Nady Hermida
DH Helms Franco Franco Franco (JRivera) Franco Helms
PS (LAA) FLA (TAM) FLA (BAL) (MIN) (MIN)
Note: JL picks 100% Mets
Who We Want to do Especially Well... DB - Delgado, Woodward, Wright, Valentin (HR), Beltran (HR), Ford, Helms, LAA
TM - Everyone (3 HR)
JL - Castro, Delgado, Woodward, Wright, Reyes, Valentin (HR), Beltran (HR), Nady, TAM
PL - Willingham (HR), Jacobs, Woodward, Wright, HRamirez (HR), Valentin (HR), Hermida, Franco
JG - Castro, Conine, Uggla, MCabrera (HR), Reyes, Floyd (HR), Branyan, Rivera, BAL
CC - Delgado, Woodward, Wright, HRamirez (HR), Valentin (HR), Nady, Franco, MIN
GG - MCabrera (HR), Hermida, Helms, MIN
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 08:54 PM
I really screwed up today... :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 11:04 PM
...okay, maybe not. Thanks, Anti-Jinx™!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 11:08 PM
Can you do that for my Astros?
Lidge blew the lead in the 9th,
after we made a comeback...
Tie ballgame now. We need runs! (And a new closer...I don't know what the deal is with him.
)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 11:10 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
...okay, maybe not. Thanks, Anti-Jinx™! Yeah, but you still have Baltimore pitching to go. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 11:19 PM
Looks like Poo-hole spoiled the 'Stros party...
Edit: Sorry that didn't work. Maybe I can only use it once per day...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Yeah, but you still have Baltimore pitching to go. :p Yeah, I know...
WTF was I thinking besides they were really cheap so I could afford the SOB Reyes who didn't play anyway...
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 11:37 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Looks like Poo-hole spoiled the 'Stros party... Seems like I'd be used to that by now. We were one strike away from winning that thing.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/08/06 11:41 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
they were really cheap so I could afford the SOB Reyes who didn't play anyway... Just like the expensive Delgado who got taken out early. Freakin wusses. :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/09/06 01:09 AM
At least I had most of the right guys on offense today :rolleyes:
Things looked soooo promising after the first game was over and the starting lineups for the second game were in.....
-43.....close to a record I'd guess.
I mean, OK, gimme a bad second game...a -10 or a -15.
But a freakin' -43?
I coulda been right back in the middle of things.
I coulda been a contenda.....
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/09/06 01:25 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
That guaranteed +48 that you get to start with with the visiting team in a dhoubleheader is tough to beat, especially with two decent starters going like Florida has.
I did feel a little worried when you so confidently called Nolasco a "decent starter". but I never, ever imagined it could be that bad.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/09/06 06:27 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Chicks Ruled
And boys drool, right?
High five, Bethie. Thanks for the Crabby Charm.
Actually, Liriano owed me for pitching a tough game against my boys on Clemens' opening night. Not to mention our sorry loss today. The baseball gods had to be on my side at some point.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/09/06 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I did feel a little worried when you so confidently called Nolasco a "decent starter". but I never, ever imagined it could be that bad.
Hey, what can I tell 'ya?
Look at Nolasco's game log - a whole bunch of decent starts recently, and a 3.97 E.R.A. coming into the game.
Of course, I never expected 32 points in the first game - That was pure luck. I was looking for a split of the DH, and somewhere in the mid to high 30's for the day.
But then.....Second game of a doubleheader, when guys are tired....Delgado out, Reyes out....32 points the first game.....
You really couldn't ask for a better situation.
I figured even if the Mets score 6-7 runs, how bad could it be for the day?
We'd still wind up plus somewhere in the mid or high-twenties, and with any kind of luck at all we could be in the high 40's or low 50's.
Don't second guess yourself.
I still say it was the right move, and I'd do it the same way every time.
Unfortunately, as we know, the "right move" doesn't always work out.
(Edit: Here 'ya go.....Going into yesterday, Nolasco had made 9 starts. Florida was 4-5 in those 9 starts, with Nolasco pitching 53 innings, with 36 strikeouts and an E.R.A of 3.91 -- certainly respectable enough to expect that even if he loses you'd still get a few points out of the game.)
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/09/06 03:00 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
[b] I did feel a little worried when you so confidently called Nolasco a "decent starter". but I never, ever imagined it could be that bad.
I still say it was the right move, and I'd do it the same way every time.
[/b][/quote]TONY MOSRITE :"I always thought it would've been Nolasco, not Dontrell...
PLAW : "It's a smart move -- Dontrell was always better. But I'm gonna wait -- after the Doubleheader. I've
decided to stick with Toronto. And then I'll meet with Don Malta -- and Don Sicilia -- all of the heads of the Five Teams..."
Don Cardi
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/09/06 06:35 PM
Sunday - Last Day of First Half
DB 4636 MIN (09) 42 4678 Congrats Douchebag!
JL 4538 NYM (10) 45 4583 Hung on for 2nd Place
TM 4530 WAS (-15) 18 4548 Bizarre PS pick costly?
PL 4484 TOR (21) 37 4521 What were projected odds again? :P
JG 4306 SFO (11) 62 4368 Disappointed :/
CC 3941 MIN (09) 34 3975 Needs a shot of Vinny...?
DC 3807 CWS (43) 74 3881 Nineteen innings helped
GG 3676 TOR (21) 41 3717 Sure her *fantasy* team did better ;)
SC 3592 BOS (31) 50 3642 Nineteen innings helped
MIN: JSantana (9-4, 2.76) @ TEX
NYM: Glavine (11-2, 3.43) vs FLA
WAS: Patterson? (1-2, 4.31) vs SDG
TOR: Halladay (11-2, 3.02) @ KC
SFO: Schmidt (6-4, 2.69) @ LAD
CWS: Contreras (9-0, 3.31) vs BOS (SC)
BOS: Schilling (10-3, 3.63) @ CWS (DC)
Lots of good pitching choices today... except one. :p
(Okay, so they didn't all
work out...)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 12:28 AM
White Sox beat Boston in 19 innings!
Wish I could've seen that game.
Congrats to CS, by the way - great first half!
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 01:48 AM
I don't think Patterson looked as bad as it turned out to be. he's got the stuff to be an ace, he's just not working out yet.
I was settled for 3rd place and with all the decent options it'd be imposible to figure out who JL'd take. also, I don't see much of a different in finishing 2nd or 3rd. I wanted to win it all. 2nd or 3rd, as the first half went, was just a question of which day the half would end, since JL and I are going back and forth all the time.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 04:25 AM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I was settled for 3rd place and with all the decent options it'd be imposible to figure out who JL'd take.
Had you taken the same PS as JL, you'd've been only 10 points out -- and had you picked a better offense, you coulda finished 2nd. But with ALL the
true Aces available today, you surely shoulda picked one of them.
In any event - good job, newb! But 3rd Place will be MINE 2nd Half! :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 01:09 PM
Congrats DB...good show.
I hope you're planning to play the second half, though.
I know....wedding, honeymoon, etc. etc., but you really gotta lay down the law early on in a marriage.
I mentioned this before, but perhaps it bears repeating as the big day draws closer:
Let her know that you're the boss, the "King of the Castle", and that fantasy sports are important and you don't intend to give them up simply because you're now married.
Of course, my POV is a purely selfish one, as I don't want any possibility of my anticipated second half and overall points wins to be tainted by your absence.
Anyway, I'm not whining or complaining.
Considering that I missed two days, I figure I would've finished second, but that doesn't mitigate from the fact that DB still would've beaten me.
So, once again, "Congrats" -- you did a helluva job.
And special honorable mention congratulations to TM who managed to play the entire first half without missing a day, and showed us that he's a knowledgable force to be reckoned with in the future.
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PL 4484 TOR (21) 37 4521 What were projected odds again? :p
I don't think I ever posted any for this game.
I looked thru the first nine pages or so of the thraed and couldn't find any.
Anyway, if I had, I know one thing for sure:
I would've picked myself to finish ahead of you.
And, JG, I'll throw my usual challenge out there to you:
We play for money, you decide how much per point, I'll give you 2-1 odds on whatevever stakes you decide.
Same offer to you, JL and DB, but no odds.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 02:02 PM
It was on p. 10.
Originally posted by plawrence:
One of the things I had intended to do before the seaon started was post my predictions along with the "odds" of everyone winning and a few of sentences of "comment and analysis", a la one of those pre-season baseball magazines.
For some reason I never got around to it, and then it slipped my mind, but had I done it before the game started, it would have looked something like this:
1 PL 3-1 Out to prove last year was a fluke
2 JL 7-2 This is one of the sports in "MOAAFS"
3 JG 4-1 Finally a legit contender to win title
4 DB 9-2 Could be out of practice
5 GG 10-1 Seems very dedicated, but is that enough?
6 CC 15-1 If she can stay away from the Johnsons.....
7 TM 20-1 MUST avoid those deadly missed days
8 DC 99-1 Only because he told me in advance he'd be
missing a lot of days because of vacations
9 LZ 99-1 Same as above
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 02:14 PM
And here's your update on p. 14.
Originally posted by plawrence:
I got in touch with my contacts in Vegas and got an update on the odds of winning this thing.
Here are the latest odds, along with the opening line:
Opening Latest
-
PL 1334 3-1 3-1 Holding steady as top pick
DB 1340 9-2 7-2 Now the second choice
GG 1300 10-1 4-1 Has proven her skill
JL 1259 7-2 9-2 132 point deficit hard to make up
JG 1231 4-1 5-1 160 point deficit harder to make up
CC 1322 15-1 6-1 Fading after strong start
TM 1391 20-1 7-1 Still must prove he won't miss days
DC 1283 99-1 50-1 Caught on, but will he stay the course?
SC 1070 ---- 150-1 Late start makes win almost impossible
LZ 974 99-1 300-1 May not stay, and not playing anyway
JL and JG might be worth a wager if you think they can come back.....
PL and DB probably not worth the short odds when you consider how close the people behind them are.....
And, finally, you can't go wrong putting a coupla bucks on SC at 150-1.....you never know, he might hit a massive hot streak.....
Want better odds than 4-1 on GG and 6-1 0n CC foreither to be worth a bet.....
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 07:48 PM
well thanks for the kind words all of you. you are creating a monster here!!
now that the half is over, someone (I don't have the guts to do that) could put together a chart with all the stats (pitching and offense) and, especially, comments.
and let me disagree with you plaw. you said if you hadn't missed 2 days, you'd be in 2nd place, right? it makes sense if you think that you ended with only 27 pts less than me and 62 less than JL. if you had played 2 more days, and averaged a humble 31 pts these 2 days, you'd be in 2nd, right? but at least in my case, the way I played was influenced by not having a close threat behind me, so it's imposible to tell what would'be happened. and now let me whine: if I had not been robbed 9 pts from a Reggie Sanders grand slam months ago, I'd be 1 point ahead of JL on the last day and I definitely wouldn't have picked the Nationals PS for yesterday.
what you could imagine, plaw, is that if I hadn't had such great performances from PS in the days I forgot to pick'em (Miner 9 IP 1 ER and Glavine 26 pts in the same day Johan Santana was pitching), I would definitely be in 4th, especially if you think that I wanted to pick Brad Penny the day I wound up with Miner (and the Dodgers went for minus pts that day :p )
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 08:43 PM
10 Things I Think I Think (ala Peter King)1 - Thanks for the congrats JG, Gina and Plaw. You guys are the best.
2 - It is awfully difficult to play De-fense (clap clap) when two guys are trailing you, especially when they were going back and forth like TM and JL were doing. There were too many permutations to use the strategy effectively.
3 - As I mentioned previously, I will not be playing in the second half. My reasons are many and are not limited to:
- A slight matter of my wedding/honeymoon
- I want to start liking sports again.
4 - I wish you all good luck in the 2nd half. I leave you all parting gifts.
5 - JL - May you get many of these on your next trip to AC.
6 - TM - To make sure you keep up your non-DNP streak.
7 - PL - To help you with your fuzzy math!
8 - JG - "Hey Geoff, why do you laugh when I say woodwind?"
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 08:55 PM
9 - Crabcakes - Basketball card of your favorite player. :p
10 - DC - "I like baseball."... See, NOW it's baseball related. :p
Four Extra Things I Think!
11 - Gina - Willy!
12 - SC - "Wanna have a catch?"
13 - Zia - New tennis balls! :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 09:02 PM
And in case SB and DMC are lurking...
14 -
and a picture DMC probably doesn't have - the only picture of Trish covered up:
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 09:47 PM
Oh hey, did you win the first half, DB? I haven't even been looking at the standings... tsk tsk. Well, congrats!!!!!!!
I'm sure winning this is the highlight of your summer, am I right? Wedding, schmwedding...
this is the stuff heroes are made of! :p
And thanks for the pic! I can almost smell that "new tennis ball" scent. Although I think all the guys are going, "There were tennis balls in that picture?" :p By the way, I still think of you every time I see a Powershot commercial. And that's several times a day this past month, since I've been watching more TV than usual with the World Cup and all the tennis tournaments.
Don't you feel special?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I will not be playing in the second half.
:(
As much as I'd like to, I won't start another campaign to convince you to stay...that is, unless you think it'd work?
You just have to promise you'll visit us whenever you get a chance, either in this thread or the other "fantasy" thread. Your posts are always a joy to read, no matter the topic, so don't be a stranger just because you're not playing.
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I want to start liking sports again.
I have to agree with this - fantasy
can do that to you.
Anyway, enjoy the "free life," and keep us updated on the wedding!
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/10/06 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Bless you, DB.... thats great!
Far be it for me to give you any advice in a sports related area, but trust me on this one: There's no DH rule on a honeymoon!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/11/06 12:16 AM
Wow, that picture from Field of dreams with the caption, "SC..wanna have a catch" brought a tear to my eye. And I'm not even chomping onions. I know, there's no crying in baseball.
DB's not playing 2nd half? That's it. Neither am I. I say we all boycott and leave plaw alone to play with his digits.
DB..will we ever see you again?
:p
Posted By: Don Cardi
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/11/06 12:31 AM
Don Sicilia,
Thanks for the Jessica Alba pic. Now I have three players for my team : Don Cardi batting
behind Anna Benson with Jessica Alba
behind Don Cardi.
To heck with the other 6 players! Who need them!?!
Enjoy your wedding day my friend and here's wishing both you, and your lovely bride the best!
Don Cardi
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/11/06 01:45 AM
Best of luck DB.
Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 02:05 PM
DS, You know I'm always lurking about, even if I won't play, and that post is one of the main reasons I peek in here from time to time. You are one very funny guy, and a Benjamin Bratt look-alike to boot. Your bride-to-be is one lucky lady. Best of everything to both of you!!
SC, I watched Field of Dreams last night and was thinking of you. Not sure which is my favorite scene - Want to have a catch? or the flashback scene with Doc Graham, complete with The Godfather on the movie marquee. Tough choice, isn't it?
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
SC, I watched Field of Dreams last night and was thinking of you. Not sure which is my favorite scene - Want to have a catch? or the flashback scene with Doc Graham, complete with The Godfather on the movie marquee. Tough choice, isn't it?
James Earl Jones' speech about America's love of baseball (which DB copied in the "Home Run Derby" thread) is my second favorite scene... number one is "Hey, Dad, wanna have a catch"?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 06:56 PM
Just a little reminder: Baseball starts up again tomorrow, and all rosters were reset. Get your lineups in by tonight!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 07:10 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes guys. The big day is coming up in a little less than 6 weeks!
I'm still going to be around (probably trying to get someone to trade with me in Yahoo baseball
), but of course I'll pop in this thread - my favorite thread every year!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I'm still going to be around (probably trying to get someone to trade with me in Yahoo baseball ),Sorry, I got chewed out the last time I made a trade with you, so I have to avoid you like the plaque.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
And thanks for the pic! I can almost smell that "new tennis ball" scent. Although I think all the guys are going, "There were tennis balls in that picture?" :p By the way, I still think of you every time I see a Powershot commercial. And that's several times a day this past month, since I've been watching more TV than usual with the World Cup and all the tennis tournaments. Don't you feel special? Yes, very special.
"Make every shot... a Power Shot!"
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 09:53 PM
well I just had to pop in and also thank DB for my gift! the streak is on and every attempt to make sure it will keep up is highly appreciated
also, DB, congrats for the 1st half and good luck with the wedding. and yes, you STILL should play 2nd half
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 10:50 PM
Sheesh......
I really missed the boat with some of the those first half predictions, didn't I?
Undaunted, however, here we go for the second half:
1- PL, 3-1: Probably woulda finished second if not for the missed days.
2- JL, 7-2: Has definitely proven to be upper echelon material
3- JG, 4-1: What can I say that hasn't been said already?
4- TM, 5-1: Must prove first half was no fluke.
5- CC, 20-1: Best of the rest.
6- SC, 25-1:[b/] One of these days I think he's gonna surprise us. But until that day, and that day may never come.....
[b]6- DC, 30-1: Is he even gonna play?
7- GG, 50-1: VERY disappointing first half performance.
8- LZ, 100-1: I have no clue.
Looks like anyone's game - between JL, TM, JL, PL, and maybe even JG, for the all-important Overall Championship.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 10:57 PM
I'm pretty sure of this, but I figured I should double-check here...
If someone
doesn't set their roster tonight (or anytime in the future), they won't get
any points for the second half, right?
I only ask because there are only about ten players in my school group that are still setting their lineups on a regular basis, yet everyone is obviously still earning points. 4 people have left the default Opening Day lineup that I had for everyone, and they're in the middle-high range of the standings. :rolleyes:
Since everything looks like it did at the start of the season, I'd assume that you have to set at least one lineup to earn points for the second half - if so, it'd be great, because our league could finally separate the men from the boys, so to speak.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 10:59 PM
As is usual, I didn't even get included in the odds.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 11:02 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
I'm pretty sure of this, but I figured I should double-check here...
If someone doesn't set their roster tonight (or anytime in the future), they won't get any points for the second half, right?
I believe that is correct.
If I understand your question correctly, you're asking if their lineup for tomorrow will revert back to the last lineup that they used, and I believe that the answer is "no".
To play the second half, I think you have to pick at least one new lineup.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 11:10 PM
Okay, thanks.
But after seeing the odds, I'm not sure if I should even bother setting my own lineup.
I never
meant to disappoint you.
(A knife to my heart...)
I'd like to blame it on school/chores/other responsibilities, but I'm afraid it was just plain ol' laziness.
This half, however, I
can blame on school, because I already know it's going to get in the way.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 11:15 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]5- CC, 20-1: Best of the rest.
[/b]
At least he didn't say Best of the worst.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
At least he didn't say Best of the worst.
Quit your bitching. You, at least, got included in the odds.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 11:28 PM
Quit your bitching. You, at least, got included in the odds. [/QB][/QUOTE]
What are the odds of that?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/12/06 11:47 PM
Originally posted by SC:
As is usual, I didn't even get included in the odds.
My most humblest of apologies.
I don't know how I did that.
Anyway, all fixed. You're in your rightful spot, prediction-wise.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 12:10 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by SC:
[b] As is usual, I didn't even get included in the odds.
My most humblest of apologies.
I don't know how I did that.
[/b][/quote]Most folks say before they go away, "I won't forget about you". Plaw's been gone 6 days and he's forgotten about you already.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 09:40 AM
Thursday Picks - 1st Day of Second Half
JL...Min
TM...Det
PL...Min
JG...Min
CC...Min
GG...Min
SC...Bos
LZ...???
Min - Liriano (10-1; 1.83) vs Cleveland
Det - Bonderman (8-4; 3.46) vs Kansas City
Bos - Lester (4-0; 3.06) vs Oakland
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 11:17 AM
So now SC is doing the scores? Does this mean you're not starting 3 days late as well? :p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 12:38 PM
1- PL, 3-1: Probably woulda finished second if not for the missed days.
I know some people have been wondering where I've been and I think now is the right time to explain it to everyone. I have been working very hard trying to figure out the odds that plaw is not ranked #1 in the "pre-season" rankings :p
Needless to say, Mathematical theory has only come so far
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 01:46 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I know some people have been wondering where I've been and I think now is the right time to explain it to everyone. I have been working very hard trying to figure out the odds that plaw is not ranked #1 in the "pre-season" rankings :p
He's a legend in his own mind. :p He'd finish 1st in ever game we play if it weren't for <
insert excuses here>.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
He's a legend in his own mind. He'd finish 1st in ever game we play if it weren't for < insert excuses here>.
Now, now. No fair picking on the windbag when he's not here to defend himself. (He's busy hanging flower baskets now).
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 04:43 PM
I'm struck in Florida. My flight was delayed 5 hours last night. I gave up after 3, and changed flights to today. Hopefully I'll be back home tonight.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 05:41 PM
I hope the Tribe rocks Liriano. this guy has got to go wrong one day.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 06:24 PM
Bite your tongue, TM!
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/13/06 10:42 PM
It is incredible how many
good and bad contracts there are in the major leagues.
Who would you rather have:
- Miguel Cabrera @ $472,000 per year or
- A-Rod @ $25.7 million per year?
Miguel Cabrera's next contract will be a huge one, I imagine, as a make-up for his rookie contract.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
[He's a legend in his own mind. :p He'd finish 1st in ever game we play if it weren't for < insert excuses here>. Let's be fair here and make the distinction between "excuses" and "reasons".
"Excuses" are, er, uh, ah....well, "Reasons" are, um, er...
Well "Reasons" sounds better, anyway.
Besides, I never said I would've won this game if not for the missed days. I said I would've finished second.
And I never claimed I'd win
every game we ever played if not for my "reasons"....just baseball and basketball.
Just want to set the record straight here.....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 06:27 AM
Thursday (official)
TM 00 Det (15) 64 Not a fluke, indeed.
JL 00 Min (10) 53 Barajas (9) a good investment
CC 00 Min (10) 51 Teixeira (22) :O
SC 00 Bos (09) 48 Enjoy 4th while it lasts :P
GG 00 Min (10) 47 Pray harder for DeJesus (0)
JG 00 Min (10) 44 Freakin' Kearns (DNP) got traded...
PL 00 Min (10) 36 Your prediction was what again?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 11:15 AM
Boy, starting off already......Geoff, I got 51 points and am in 3rd.
:p
Mark Teixeira...what can I say.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 11:59 AM
Yeah, and I got 48 points for fourth place.
"Rookies" (said in my best Shoeless Joe Jackson voice).
Maybe I'll ask plaw to be my MWA this half. He just has to step up the pace a bit, though.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 02:11 PM
When I saw the odds, I would have said the smart money would be on TM...
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 02:13 PM
WHERE IN THE WORLD DID YOU FIND THAT?!?!?! of course it is being added to my collection as we speak, but I have never seen that.
Damn she looks great in jeans.......
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 02:19 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PL 00 Min (10) 36 ........ Your prediction was what again?
Why? Did you miss it?
Or is the season over already after one day?
The prediction was that I would finish first.
And no matter where I finish, be it first or next-to-last, it will most certainly be in front of you.
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
When I saw the odds, I would have said the smart money would be on TM...
If he had any kind of track record of being able to play a full season or half season without missing any days, I might agree with you that at those odds he might be the best bet. But since he doesn't......
Of course, if he did have such a history, the odds would've been lower and possibly not looked as attractive.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 04:45 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
PL 00 Min (10) 36 ........ Your prediction was what again?
Why? Did you miss it?
Or is the season over already after one day?
The prediction was that I would finish first.
And no matter where I finish, be it first or next-to-last, it will most certainly be in front of you.
[/QB][/quote]Sheesh, what a grouch. Can't even take a ribbing anymore. :p
...and I was hoping at least you'd make the results official before anyone say them.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 04:56 PM
Did you take plaw up on his bet JG? JL?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 04:58 PM
Friday
TM 64 SDG ()
JL 53 STL ()
CC 51 SEA ()
SC 48 BOS ()
GG 47 DET ()
JG 44 LAA ()
PL 36 SDG ()
AL 00 ATL ()
SDG: Young (8-4, 3.12) vs ATL (vs KN)
STL: Carpenter (7-4, 3.08) vs LAD
SEA: Meche (8-4, 3.83) @ TOR
BOS: Beckett (11-4, 4.75) vs OAK
DET: Rogers (11-3, 3.85) vs KC
LAA: Lackey (7-5, 2.88) vs TAM
ATL: Hudson (6-8, 4.56) @ SDG (vs TM, PL)
Okay, who is
King of the 'Nati again?
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 05:23 PM
I would be King of 'Nati
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Don Alessandrio:
I would be King of 'Nati
Okay, cool - I'll call you AL rather than KN... And, welcome to Diamond Daily as well!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 06:47 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Alessandrio:
[b] I would be King of 'Nati
Okay, cool - I'll call you AL
[/b][/quote]You and Paul Simon.
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 06:47 PM
thank you. i have played a lot of fantasy sports games but never this one.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
You and Paul Simon.
I'm seeing him Sunday
...and guess who I'm seeing Wednesday at Giants Stadium? :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Did you take plaw up on his bet JG? JL?
No. I used to play in Fantasy Leagues where money was on the line. After a while, it took any fun out of playing the game.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/14/06 10:00 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b]You and Paul Simon.
I'm seeing him Sunday
...and guess who I'm seeing Wednesday at Giants Stadium? :p
[/b][/quote]Since Bon Jovi is playing there then I'd guess them.
You suck big time Geoff.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/15/06 12:43 AM
Will someone wake up my offense and tell them the 2nd half has begun?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/15/06 12:52 AM
Maybe if I had more than 5 pts myself. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/15/06 01:13 AM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/15/06 06:48 AM
Friday (official)
JL^ 53 STL (37) 67 120 MOAAFS showing who's boss?
JG^ 44 LAA (35) 54 98 Oh, I'm Halfway there...
CC 51 SEA (22) 45 96 ...Living on a Prayer
SC 48 BOS (-09) 24 72 Teahen (13) helped keep 4th
TM 64 SDG (-22) -6 58 From First to Fifth
GG 47 DET (-08) 10 57 Maybe I cursed Huff, sorry :/
PL 36 SDG (-22) 19 55 If the season ended today...
AL 00 ATL (-16) 03 03 Welcome to Hell ;)
SDG: Young (8-4, 3.12) vs ATL (vs KN)
STL: Carpenter (7-4, 3.08) vs LAD
SEA: Meche (8-4, 3.83) @ TOR
BOS: Beckett (11-4, 4.75) vs OAK
DET: Rogers (11-3, 3.85) vs KC
LAA: Lackey (7-5, 2.88) vs TAM
ATL: Hudson (6-8, 4.56) @ SDG (vs TM, PL)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/15/06 12:46 PM
Saturday (unofficial)
JG^ 98 TOR (16) 52 150
CC^ 96 DET (35) 54 150
SC^ 72 BOS (37) 71 143
TM^ 58 BOS (37) 72 130
JL 120 FLA (-21) -1 119 Ouch.
PL^ 55 MIN (29) 62 117
GG 57 TOR (16) 47 104
AL 03 CIN (20) 43 046
FLA: JJohnson (8-4, 2.21) vs HOU
TOR: Halladay (12-2, 2.92) vs SEA
DET: Verlander (10-4, 3.01) vs KC
BOS: Schilling (10-3, 3.60) vs OAK
MIN: JSantana (9-5, 2.95) vs CLE
CIN: Arroyo (9-6, 3.12) vs COL
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/15/06 01:40 PM
WTG with Anaheim there Geoff. You really busted a move. But don't get too comfortable. Can you feel that....that's me breathing down your neck.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/15/06 09:29 PM
Carlos Zambrano hussled to get on first base with a ground ball, then stole second base with 2 out. Didn't anyone tell him pitchers aren't supposed to do that.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 04:04 PM
Saturday (official) with Sunday picks:
JG 98 TOR (16) 52 150 LAD (Penny .. 10-2; 2.91)
CC 96 DET (35) 54 150 DET (Miner .. 6-1; 2.57)
SC 72 BOS (37) 71 143 DET
TM 59 BOS (37) 73 132 SnD (Peavy .. 4-8; 4.46)
JL 120 FLA (-21) -1 119 SnD
PL 55 MIN (29) 62 117 FLA (Olsen .. 6-4; 4.24)
GG 57 TOR (16) 49 106 DET
AL 03 CIN (20) 44 047 CIN (Ramirez 3-6; 4.14)
DM 00 CWS (-32) -6 -06 CWS (Garcia 10-5, 4.91)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 04:08 PM
Thanks, buddy!
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 04:56 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Thanks, buddy!
No need for that. I figure I won't be in third place much longer and I just wanted everyone to see it NOW. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 05:53 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] Thanks, buddy!
No need for that. I figure I won't be in third place much longer and I just wanted everyone to see it NOW. :p [/b][/quote]You have to get by me big guy.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
You have to get by me big guy. Do I HAVE to?? I was getting used to being under you.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:14 PM
I'm starting 2 days late and I'm at -6........ this is going to be a fun half
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:14 PM
The way Detroit's pitching you might get to look at my behind for a while longer.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
The way Detroit's pitching you might get to look at my behind for a while longer.
I picked them, too. :p
Besides, I've been in worse positions (in this league) before.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:22 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I'm starting 2 days late and I'm at -6........ this is going to be a fun half
(BTW - Don't look at your today's pitching score now!)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:32 PM
Originally posted by SC:
pitching you might get to look at my behind for a while longer.
I picked them, too. :p
Besides, I've been in worse positions (in this league) before. [/QB][/QUOTE]
So you say you've been up and down? I've been in quite a few positions myself.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:35 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
So you say you've been up and down? I've been in quite a few positions myself.
Got any pictures????
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:55 PM
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 06:59 PM
The truth was I wasn't planning on playing I just wanted to get a "set it and forget it" team, so that I could at least get some uber points and get out of the rookie category (I'm at 35% and you need 40%) so CHW fit in to my salary cap, but now I decided to play. We'll see what happens.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 09:06 PM
I knew I shouldn't've made fun of your score... Freakin' Dodgers
:rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 09:09 PM
Sunday
JG 150 LAD ()
CC 150 DET ()
SC 143 DET ()
TM 132 SnD ()
JL 119 SnD ()
PL 117 FLA ()
GG 106 DET ()
AL 047 CIN ()
DM -06 CWS ()
Will update after Paul Simon concert
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 09:17 PM
Jake Peavy is an RBI machine!!! this guy always starts striking everybody out and then explodes and gives up a ton of runs piled up.
on the other hand, Albert Pujols is a monster!! 21 pts for me in 2 days. I think I'm gonna keep him locked now that he's waay below his price.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 10:31 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]SundayTM 132 SnD ()
JL 119 SnD ()
[/b]
Will update after Paul Simon concert
aren't we idiots? how didn't we figure out the Braves would keep their hot hitting streak? it was sooo obvious
after I carefully researched and figured the Braves were done, they became the greatest team in baseball I think
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 11:00 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PL ............. If the season ended today...
If the season ended
today.....
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
aren't we idiots? how didn't we figure out the Braves would keep their hot hitting streak? it was sooo obvious
Today's pitching picks sucked:
LAD (picked by JG) (-15)
SnD (by TM & JL) (-14)
DET (by CC, SC, GG) (-12)
CWS (by DM) (-01)
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 11:26 PM
woo hoo I didn't do so bad and JG sucked the most (and his pitching staff did really bad)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/16/06 11:45 PM
This probably qualifies as a whine alert, though I don't intend it to be one...it really seems that the more I try in this game, the worse I do.
When I leave my lineup alone for a couple of days, I do well (or well enough), but when I go through all the stats and try to form the best lineup for each day, it rarely works out.
I guess that just means I don't know how to play this game.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/17/06 12:48 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
This probably qualifies as a whine alert, though I don't intend it to be one...it really seems that the more I try in this game, the worse I do.
Its not a whine alert... Its an OUTRIGHT WHINE!!!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/17/06 01:16 AM
You're right...I suppose I'd need a whine alert post
before that whine post, huh?
You should write a guidebook for this, SC.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/17/06 02:19 AM
All I can say about the 6th inning of the Mets/Cubs game is...WOW! I was watching it with my mom, who is not a big baseball fan. Even she was amazed. 2 grand slams and a 2 run homer in one inning. I think that bad boy lasted over 45 minutes. I said if I was a fan there and watched The Cubs blow 5-2 lead that I'd be pelting the field. No sooner that I got it out that you saw cups and other stuff being thrown on the field. What a strange game.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/17/06 02:57 AM
yeah I was watching it too. it's amazing how the Cubs suck. some teams have a terrible rotation or a bullpen that blows every game, but the Cubs stand up with this mix of poor starting and poor relief pitching.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/17/06 06:10 AM
Sunday (The Official Paul Simon Standings)
PL^117 FLA (19) 58 175 Something So Right
CC^150 DET (-12) 18 168 Still Crazy After All These Years
JG 150 LAD (-15) 10 160 Late in the Evening
SC 143 DET (-12) 17 160 Homeward Bound
TM 132 SnD (-14) 17 149 The Boy In The Bubble
JL 119 SnD (-14) 08 128 Slip Slidin' Away
GG 106 DET (-12) 19 125 Condor Pasa (If I Could)
AL 047 CIN (15) 39 086 You Can Call Me Al
DM -06 CWS (-01) 31 025 Train In The Distance
Tune in Wednesday Night for the Unofficial Bon Jovi Standings!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/17/06 11:10 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Tune in Wednesday Night for the Unofficial Bon Jovi Standings! I'm looking to have One Wild Night.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/17/06 04:31 PM
Monday (official)
CC 168 BOS (14) 48 216
PL 175 SFO (-5) 12 187
SC 160 DNP (--) 24 184
JG 160 SFO (-5) 20 180
TM 149 SFO (-5) 19 168
GG 125 DNP (--) 25 150
JL 128 SFO (-5) 17 145
AL 086 DNP (--) 15 101
DM 025 BOS (14) 38 063
SFO: Schmidt (6-5, 2.78) vs MIL
BOS: Wakefield (7-8, 4.05) vs KC
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/18/06 12:32 PM
It's so hot out the ESPN site doesn 't even feel like updating the scores.
SC sits back and does nothing and still does as well as most guys here. What's your secret?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/18/06 02:58 PM
Tuesday (official)
CC 216 MIN (37) 90 306
JG^180 MIN (37) 92 272
TM^168 MIN (37) 64 232
PL 187 FLA (-1) 42 229
SC 184 DET (06) 37 221
GG 150 MIN (37) 67 217
JL 145 MIN (37) 63 208
AL 101 FLA (-1) 28 129
DM 063 SFO (23) 39 102
MIN: Liriano (10-2, 2.12) vs TB
FLA: Willis (6-7, 3.80) vs WAS
DET: Robertson (8-5, 3.36) vs CWS
SFO: Wright? (5-8, 5.06) vs MIL
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 05:29 AM
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 11:08 AM
I scored 90 and you got 92 Geoff. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 01:36 PM
Maybe it's just me, but everytime I see Red Sox' Gabe Kapler's name I think of Mr. Kotter and The Sweathogs.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 03:21 PM
Wednesday (The Official Bon Jovi Standings)
CC 306 HOU (26) 39 345 "You Give Love A Bad Name"
JG 272 LAA (-3) 23 295 "Story of My Life"
SC^221 STL (23) 44 265 "Breakout"
TM 232 LAA (-3) 19 251 "Never Say Goodbye"
PL 229 LAA (-3) 19 248 "It's My Life"
JL^208 OAK (24) 34 242 "Livin' On A Prayer"
GG 217 LAA (-3) 16 233 "She's A Mystery"
AL 129 BOS (35) 52 181 "Keep The Faith"
DM 102 BOS (35) 57 159 "One Wild Night"
HOU: Clemens (103, 2.96) @ CHC
LAA: Lackey (8-5, 2.69) vs CLE
STL: Carpenter (8-4, 2.85) vs ATL
OAK: Zito (9-6, 3.30) @ BAL
BOS: Beckett (11-5, 5.12) vs KC
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
I scored 90 and you got 92 Geoff. :p
How'd you guys get so much offense? Both Konerko and Jones?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] I scored 90 and you got 92 Geoff. :p
How'd you guys get so much offense? Both Konerko and Jones? [/b][/quote]I got 21 from Jones, 7 from A. Gonzalez and 10 from Bobby Crosby.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 05:05 PM
Nick Swisher can kiss my fat f*cking a$$. These sissies need to stop taking days off.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll walk the 4 blocks to Camden Yards, buy a ticket, and go to the dugout and bitch slap him.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/19/06 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] I scored 90 and you got 92 Geoff. :p
How'd you guys get so much offense? Both Konerko and Jones? [/b][/quote]Andruw Jones was worth for an extra pitching staff yesterday
Originally posted by Beth E:
Nick Swisher can kiss my fat f*cking a$$. These sissies need to stop taking days off.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll walk the 4 blocks to Camden Yards, buy a ticket, and go to the dugout and bitch slap him. if you do that, give him another slap for me! I have the son of a bitch in my lineup too. he and Shea Hillenbrand are banned from my team.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/20/06 12:32 AM
Vinny is gone from The Padres. Oh, what a sad day in my house. Quick, hide all the knives.
"Padres placed third baseman Vinny Castilla on waivers for the purpose of giving him his unconditional release."
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/20/06 04:18 PM
Thursday (official)
CC 345 MIN (21) 43 388
JG 295 MIN (21) 47 342
SC 265 MIN (21) 45 310
TM 251 MIN (21) 50 300
PL 248 MIN (21) 39 287
JL 242 FLA (06) 28 270
GG 233 MIN (21) 30 264
AL 181 BOS (15) 46 227
DM 159 MIN (21) 36 195
MIN: JSantana (10-5, 2.93) vs TB
FLA: JJohnson (8-5, 2.48) vs PIT
BOS: Schilling (11-3, 3.42) vs TEX
Today's Best PS(s) CHC (31)
SFO, DET, PIT (24)
Today's Best Hitter(s) Barrett (9)
Barajas (6)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 07:03 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
CHC (31)
Wonder why?
Zambrano is such an Astros killer.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 07:13 AM
I can't get motivated to play this game seriously anymore.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 10:05 AM
That's good to hear, as I make my bid to win what will be a very tainted Overall Points Championshop.
Altho - I must say - I'm having motivation issues myself.
Looks like the Dog Days of August arrived a little early this year.
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 12:54 PM
This game is freaking frustrating
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 03:11 PM
Wow! 4 whines in a row, and not even 1 warning!! :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 03:28 PM
I wasn't whining. :p
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 03:57 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Wow! 4 whines in a row, and not even 1 warning!!
It was only three whines in a row.
I told you a hundred million times to stop exaggerating.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 04:12 PM
Friday (official)
CC 388 DET (13) 40 428
PL 287 FLA (38) 94 381 +68 in pitching, what do you expect :/
JG 342 BAL (-30) -1 341
JL^270 ATL (-01) 42 312
SC 310 BAL (-30) 01 311
TM 300 BAL (-30) 05 305
AL^227 CIN (12) 49 276
GG 264 BAL (-30) 02 266
DM 195 DET (13) 35 230
DET: Verlander (11-4, 2.83) vs OAK
BAL: Bedard (11-6, 4.02) @ TB > ROrtiz (0-6, 8.05)
FLA: Olsen (7-4, 4.28) vs PIT
ATL: Smoltz (7-5, 3.41) @ PHI
CIN: ERamirez (3-6, 4.16) vs MIL
Bethie didn't go w/ her hometown zeros?
:p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 04:15 PM
I keep telling you over and over again I'm not a homer. :p
I won't say anything though. I am a true jinx, and once I start talking then that guarantees The Birds a win.
Although, I might have just started the jinx in motion with this post.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/21/06 10:51 PM
Eric Bedard has food poisening so Russ Ortiz is starting tonight's game.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Eric Bedard has food poisening so Russ Ortiz is starting tonight's game.
6 runs (-22 pts) after 1 inning is a good start. :rolleyes:
P.S. That loser didn't even record an out:
0.0 IP 5 H 1 BB 6 ER
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 01:44 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Eric Bedard has food poisening so Russ Ortiz is starting tonight's game.
Originally posted by J Geoff:
6 runs (-22 pts) after 1 inning is a good start. :rolleyes: Gee, what a shame....
I feel absolutely
terrible for you O's-takers.
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Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 01:46 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Bethie didn't go w/ her hometown zeros? :p You were saying?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 05:46 AM
Just dumb (bad) luck... don't be acting like you knew... :p
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Eric Bedard has food poisening so Russ Ortiz is starting tonight's game.
Stupid piece of shit!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Eric Bedard has food poisening so Russ Ortiz is starting tonight's game.
Originally posted by SC:
Stupid piece of shit!! Which one? Bedard or Ortiz? :p
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PL^287 FLA (38) 91 378 +68 in pitching, what do you expect
Considering that I had the best offense yesterday also, I expect to gain a lot of points.
But I'll admit -- Florida's 38 was a nice surprise.
I won't cackle (cock-a-doodle-doo) or crow (woo-hoo) about my 94 (not 91) yesterday, one of the highest scores
ever on a non-doubleheader day.
What is it that MC says about the blind squirrel occasionally finding the nut?
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Might be time to update the race for the all-important Overall Points Championship.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 10:31 AM
UPDATE: All Important Overall Points Championship Standings 1st Half 2nd Half Total
PL 4521 381 4902 Says first half was a fluke
JL 4583 312 4895 Maybe this will provide motivation
TM 4548 305 4853 Says first half was NO fluke
JG 4368 341 4709 Still has a shot
DB 4678 0 4678 Getting married? That's no excuse
CC 3975 428 4403 Surprise second half leader
GG 3717 266 3983 Stick to playing those Texas kids
SC 3642 311 3953 Started 3 days late
DC 3881 0 3881 "Cruises" into last place
Still a fairly wide-open race.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 11:07 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] Eric Bedard has food poisening so Russ Ortiz is starting tonight's game.
Originally posted by SC:
Stupid piece of shit!! Which one? Bedard or Ortiz? [/b][/quote]BOTH of those Baltimorons.
Bedard, because he's stupid. Ortiz, because he's a piece of shit.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 12:42 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
don't be acting like you knew... :p
Considering I know that all Orioles' pitching sucks I guess you could say I did. :p
And it also appears the package of ground beef I shipped for Bedard made it to him.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 03:45 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
...my 94 (not 91) yesterday, one of the highest scores [b]ever on a non-doubleheader day.[/b]
Bethie and I got 90 and 92 pts, respectively, on Tuesday - not significantly less than what you're gloating about. While your 94
is the overall daily high, you have to admit that is pretty LOW overall in this game where
someone scores over 100 pts practically every day. :p
P.S.
It sure would be nice if some little birdie could help "officialize" the scores in these games for me in the AM like the good ol' days...
P.P.S. ESPN has been awful lately with the unofficial scores - I've never noticed it this bad where almost everyone's scores are different the next day. Has it been like this all year long??
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 04:01 PM
Saturday
CC 428 DET (-09) 07 435
PL 381 SFO (14) 45 426
TM^305 SEA (27) 75 380
JL^312 SFO (14) 31 343
SC^311 SDG (13) 27 338
JG 341 TAM (-30) -7 334 Even with a Win... :/
AL 276 FLA (32) 40 316 Nice offense.
GG 266 DET (-09) 14 280
DM 230 SFO (14) 46 276
DET: Miner (6-2, 3.30) vs OAK
SFO: Schmidt (6-6, 3.06) vs SDG (vs SC)
SDG: Woody Wms (4-1, 3.38) @ SFO (vs PL, JL, DM)
TAM: Corcoran (4-1, 2.48) vs BAL
SEA: Hernandez (8-8, 4.89) vs BOS
FLA: Nolasco (7-6, 4.67) vs PIT
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/22/06 11:51 PM
Well, it doesn't look like I'm gonna be as lucky as I was last time with Corcoran...
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 12:28 AM
I guess I stumped everyone with the Mariners PS pick against the big bats of the Red Sox then.
of course, I had 5 minutes to pick a team before going my way out of town and I picked the only one who was 'most' un-like Bedard because I wouldn't be able to see how both of them did. it would be great luck if the Baltimorons (
) hadn't screwed up the whole thing yesterday.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 01:15 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Bethie and I got 90 and 92 pts, respectively, on Tuesday - not significantly less than what you're gloating about. While your 94 is the overall daily high, you have to admit that is pretty LOW overall in this game where someone scores over 100 pts practically every day. :p
I would hardly say that someone scores over 100 "practically every day".
It's happened five times in nine days since the break, but there doesn't seem to be a way to go back and look at past days and weeks.
I'll be happy to keep track going forward, though, and I'd be
very surprised if the average is more than 100, or if someone scores 100 or more more than half the time, much less practically every day.
Somewhere in the 90's would seem to be about the average, so no, I wouldn't say that 94 is a LOW score - nor is 90 or 92 - however on a day that you and someone else both get such a high score, that suggests to me that it was somewhat easier to do.
More importantly, BTW, I just noticed that my 94 was tied - if not alone - as the highest score of the day in the whole game.
That's something I don't think any of us have ever done before, if I'm not mistaken.
And lemme gloat a little - God knopws I've had precious little to gloat about this season.
(The only reason I didn't update and "officialize" the scores this morning is 'cuz if I did you would've made a comment about me suddenly taking an interest again just because I had a good day.
Damned if I do and damned if I don't, I guess.....
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 01:22 AM
Okay, I'll let you gloat for now. :p
But let's see... since the break, 5 of 9 days were 100+ days. I can't seem to find the data from the first half, but I notice practically every day someone gets 100+ points... and more than 5 out of 9 days it seems...
P.S. I might as well stick a whine in here..... half my freakin' offense isn't even playing today! :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 01:29 AM
I'll track those 100+ days for a while and we'll see.
As I said 5/9 is hardly "practically every day".
[gloat alert]
BTW (again), the day you and CC scored in the 90s, the high for the day was 116.
The day I scored 94, the high for the day was, um, 94
[/gloat alert]
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 01:33 AM
Do I root for Schmidt tonite or not?
I guess I have a little cushion in pitching today over you and CC in
this game, so I thik I'd like to see about a 10 or so from the Giants PS, with maybe a 0-5 for Schmidt.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 11:23 AM
Here'ya go, JG.
It's Sunday; Take the day off from Salary Cap.
I'll "officialize" the scores for you (several 1 pont additions).
And here, I'll even save you trouble of commenting:
I, plawrence, confess. I'm suddenly considerably more interested in the game because I'm doing better after a long slump and I'm ahead in the all-important Overall Points Championship race.Saturday
CC 435 DET (-09) 08 436 Super longshot faltering?
PL 381 SFO (14) 45 426 Claims he's interested again
TM^305 SEA (27) 76 381 Looks like 1st half was no fluke
JL^312 SFO (14) 32 344 Expect a hot streak at some point
SC^311 SDG (13) 27 338 Rarely this high in standings so late
JG 341 TAM (-30) -6 335 Down there with the also-rans
AL 276 FLA (32) 41 317 Gotta change your PS every day
GG 266 DET (-09) 15 281 Summer fun in way of fantasy sports?
DM 230 SFO (14) 47 277 Prediction: Will finish 5th if he plays hard
Maybe even as high as 4th
Today's probable pitchers:
Minn: Liriano; 11-2, 194 (PL, JL, SC, GG, DM)
LAA: Weaver; 6-0, 1.12 (CC, JG, TM)
Fla: Willis; 6-7, 3.94 (AL)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 12:52 PM
You know, JG.....
I don't think anyone ever had back-to-back scores of -30 in pitching before.
That ain't easy to do.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 04:13 PM
-30 each day, from opposing teams in the same series yet.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 04:16 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I, plawrence, confess. I'm suddenly considerably more interested in the game because I'm doing better...
A'int that the truth. I gotta tell ya it effects me, too. I'm REALLY into the Draft game now that I'm hovering near the top, and this one just becomes more and more tedious and frustrating....
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/23/06 05:44 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
GG Summer fun in way of fantasy sports?
Sadly, no. I wish I had a nice excuse like that, but watching the Astros and setting my lineup are the highlights of my day.
Considering how the Astros have been playing...
And considering how I've been playing...
Originally posted by plawrence:
GG Stick to playing those Texas kids
Maybe I'll be better off back at school? :p
(There. If that ain't enough of a whine/anti-jinx to propel me to first place, I don't know what is.
)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/24/06 05:24 AM
Sunday CC 436 LAA (28) 53 489 Pride of the Chicks
PL 426 MIN (36) 53 479 Renewed Interest = 1st Place?
TM 381 LAA (28) 42 423 Staying in the Race
JL 344 MIN (36) 64 408 Top Score of GBB
SC 338 MIN (36) 59 397 Wanna have a catch?
JG 335 LAA (28) 54 389 Glad to have good pitching
AL 317 FLA (13) 27 344 MIN/LAA PS would've helped
GG 281 MIN (36) 58 339 Astros Win!
DM 277 MIN (36) 60 337 Ready to Pounce
Today's Probable Pitchers:
Det, Bonderman, 10-4, 3.53: CC, SC
LAA, Lackey, 8-6, 2.93: PL, TM, JG, GG
NYM, Trachsel, 9-4, 4.68: JL
Bost, Beckett, 12-5, 4.78: DM
Tex, Millwood, 10-5, 4.61: AL
(edited to officialize scores and add probable pitchers - pl)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/24/06 05:53 AM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/24/06 06:54 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
LAA, Lackey, 8-6, 2.93: PL, TM, JG, GG
So... how "well" do you want Lackey to do today? :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/24/06 07:00 PM
Thanks, StatMan. I do what I can.
Hopefully I can help out with this every so often...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/25/06 06:45 AM
Monday (unofficial)
CC 489 DET (08) 41 530
PL 479 LAA (27) 37 516
TM 423 LAA (27) 57 480
JG^389 LAA (27) 65 454
JL 408 NYM (-6) 24 432
SC 397 DET (08) 28 425
GG^339 LAA (27) 56 395
DM^337 BOS (18) 43 380
AL 344 TEX (06) 23 367
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/25/06 06:48 AM
So much for my "Mets vs the lowest scoring team at Shea = definite positive points".
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/25/06 07:18 AM
Trachsel is Trachsel, winning streak and all.
I doubt if he had a 20+ FP game all season.
And it's not like the Mets were really cheap, either.
Look what he cost you in cap points.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/25/06 07:22 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]LAA, Lackey, 8-6, 2.93: PL, TM, JG, GG
So... how "well" do you want Lackey to do today? :p [/b][/quote]Well, since I had complete confidence that I would eventually pass CC regardless of what happened tonite, and since all of those right behind me had Lackey also (or Trachsel), I was rooting for him to get bombed.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/25/06 11:10 AM
Monday (Official)
CC 489 DET (08) 41 530 Min Santana 11-5 3.00
PL 479 LAA (27) 37 516 Hou Clemens 2-3 2.43
TM 423 LAA (27) 57 480 Bos Schilling 12-3 3.50
JG^389 LAA (27) 65 454 Bos
JL 408 NYM (-6) 25 433 NYM Glavine 11-3 3.52
SC 397 DET (08) 28 425 Det Rogers 11-3 3.97
GG^339 LAA (27) 56 395 Min
DM^337 BOS (18) 43 380 Bos
AL 344 TEX (06) 23 367 Tex Eaton (!!) 0-0 0.00
7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5
Under: 5
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Total to Date:
Over: 5, 45.5%
Under: 6, 54.5%
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/25/06 06:02 PM
Just thought I'd throw this out there. I've been seeing on ESPN lately where they have Dominos tournaments televised and was wondering when the fantasy league was gonna be started. :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 02:24 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Trachsel is Trachsel, winning streak and all.
I doubt if he had a 20+ FP game all season.
And it's not like the Mets were really cheap, either.
Look what he cost you in cap points.
And I didn't learn my lesson last night. :rolleyes:
You can tell I really lost interest in this game.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 03:04 AM
No, I can't really tell that.
You really can't be faulted for taking Glavine tonight.
I've made what I knew were bad picks in situations like that, because I was pissed for making the first bad pick, and I felt that the Mets "owed me", and I had to get even with them.
It's not like Glavine is Hernandez or Soler or somebody.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 03:44 AM
True. But the point is, I just looked at my team and said: "ah, it's ok. Just leave it as-is."
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 06:23 AM
Tuesday (unofficial)
CC 530 Min (21) 47 577
PL 516 Hou (16) 52 568
TM 480 Bos (11) 39 519
JG 454 Bos (11) 51 505
GG^395 Min (21) 56 451
JL 433 NYM (03) 17 450
SC 425 Det (-25) 01 426
DM^380 Bos (11) 46 426
AL 367 Tex (06) 31 398
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 07:28 AM
Goin' into the tank completely now, huh JL?
:p
SOK with me. Another guy I don't have to worry about on my way to the Overall Points Championship.
That leaves who, now? Just TM I think.
Hang in there, Tony!!!!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 07:40 AM
2 months still to go... hello? :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 01:15 PM
What?
You're gonna catch me in overall?
You want something to bet in, here 'ya go:
I'll bet whatever you want, and give you 4-1 odds on you finishing with more total points than me.
You're down by about 220 points, so you're certainly an underdog.
And 220 points in this game is 220 points - no projections, games in hand, or any of that stuff to muddy the waters.
But 4-1 is fair odds, I think.
If you don't think so, make me a counter offer.
I mean, if I said I was giving you 50-1 or 100-1 (which I won't, of course) I'm sure you'd take it.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 01:25 PM
Tuesday (Edited to officialize scores and add probable pitchers)
CC 530 Min (21) 47 577 Mil Capuano 10-5 3.49
PL 516 Hou (16) 52 568 LAD Penny 10-4 3.23
TM 480 Bos (11) 39 519 SaD Peavy 4-10 5.15
JG 454 Bos (11) 51 505 Det Verlander 12-4 2.77
GG^395 Min (21) 56 451 Min Silva (??) 5-9 6.91
JL 433 NYM (03) 18 451 NYM Maine 1-3 3.12
SC 425 Det (-25) 02 427 Mil
DM^380 Bos (11) 47 427 CWS Buehrle 9-8 4.53
AL 368 Tex (06) 31 399 Cin Arroyo 9-6 2.92
9 players, 8 different pitchers....unusual.
Over/Under 100 as best score of the day:7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5, 50.0%
Under: 5, 50.0%
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Tue, 7/25: Under (91)
Total to Date:
Over: 5, 41.7%
Under: 7, 58.3%
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 04:48 PM
Eww... some ugly PS decision to make for tomorrow
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
....the point is, I just looked at my team and said: "ah, it's ok. Just leave it as-is." Looks like you're getting back a good part of what the Mets owe you today.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 07:45 PM
Wednesday
CC 577 Mil (-05) 21+
PL 568 LAD (-17) -4+ Sure you don't want Penny??
TM 519 SaD (21) 41+ Picks against Plaw, correctly
JG 505 Det (31) 56+
GG 451 Min (18) 39+ Picks against DMC, correctly
JL 451 NYM (35) 43+
SC 427 Mil (-05) 14+
DM 427 CWS (-06) -3+
AL 399 Cin ()
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 10:35 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
You want something to bet in, here 'ya go:
I'll bet whatever you want, and give you 4-1 odds on you finishing with more total points than me.
You're down by about 220 points, so you're certainly an underdog.
And 220 points in this game is 220 points - no projections, games in hand, or any of that stuff to muddy the waters.
But 4-1 is fair odds, I think.
If you don't think so, make me a counter offer.
I mean, if I said I was giving you 50-1 or 100-1 (which I won't, of course) I'm sure you'd take it.
here 'ya go....
You just shaved a load of points off my lead, and I'll
still give you 4-1 odds.
Don't tell me that in a game of skill you don't have enough confidence in your chances of catching me that you think that your chances are worse than 1 out of 4.
Or, let's reverse it.
You give me 4-1 odds, and I'll bet that I beat you by more than our current difference over the rest of the season.
Don't tell me that that in a game of skill you don't have enough confidence in your chances of beating me with a lead of 180 points or so that you think that your chances are worse than 1 out of 4.
Or take both bets.
Tell 'ya what.....
I'm so confident that I'll take 3-1 odds instead of the 4-1 that I'm offering you.
How can you say "No" to that?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/26/06 11:42 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Just Lou:
[b]....the point is, I just looked at my team and said: "ah, it's ok. Just leave it as-is." Looks like you're getting back a good part of what the Mets owe you today. [/b][/quote]I'd call it almost even now between you and the Mets.
+35, +3, -6 = +32 for 3 games.
Not that big a loss compared to 15-16 FPPG that you're probably averaging in pitching in this game.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/27/06 06:20 AM
Wednesday (official)
CC 577 Mil (-05) 37 614 How long will this hold up?
PL 568 LAD (-17) 04 572 Sure you don't want Penny??
JG^505 Det (31) 65 570 Knock knock! ;)
TM 519 SaD (21) 42 561 Picks against Plaw, correctly
JL^451 NYM (35) 51 502 Breaks tie w/ GG
GG 451 Min (18) 44 498 Picks against DMC, correctly
SC 427 Mil (-05) 21 448 Keeps it tied up
DM 427 CWS (-06) 21 448 Biggio (10) salvages, almost
AL 399 Cin (03) 16 415 Did 5x better than Plaw at least
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/27/06 10:05 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PL 568 LAD (-17) 03 571 Sure you don't want Penny??
Would you rather have Penny or Haren right now?
So, all kinds of interesting propositions to bet on out there.
We're pretty much tied in this game.....you wanna bet on the rest of the way?
Pick the amount, I'll give you 5-2 odds on your money.
Then there's my proposition on the Overall Points Winner.
You just chopped 60 points off my lead, but my offer still stands -- I'll give you 4-1 on you catching me.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/27/06 10:10 AM
Over/Under 100 as best score of the day:7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5, 50.0%
Under: 5, 50.0%
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Tue, 7/25: Under (91)
Wed, 7/26: Over (103)
Total to Date:
Over: 6, 46.2%
Under: 7, 53.8%
YAY!!
....JG finally gets one :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/27/06 04:26 PM
Thursday (unofficial)
CC 614 OAK (25) 70 684 She's not Dunn being in First
PL 572 FLA (27) 56 628 He's not Dunn, either
JG 570 COL (05) 35 605 Too Fogg-y to make a good pick
TM 561 SFO (02) 26 587 Waits 'til 2:30AM to make picks
JL 502 SFO (02) 32 534 Can I use the Cain/able pun again?
GG 498 TOR (-2) 13 511 Don't trust Lilly; trust me.
SC^448 ARI (16) 50 498 Breaks the tie
DM 448 ARI (16) 43 491 He's vewy vewy quiet
AL 415 CIN (21) 26 441 Did better than some w/ 2 batters
OAK: Blanton (10-8, 4.90) vs TOR (CC vs GG)
FLA: Olsen (8-4, 4.01) @ ATL
COL: Fogg (7-5, 4.25) vs SDG
SFO: Cain (7-6, 4.67) @ WAS
TOR: Lilly (9-8, 3.89) @ OAK (GG vs CC)
ARI: Vargas (8-6, 5.16) @ PHI
CIN: ERamirez (3-6, 4.43) @ HOU
I didn't like any of the SPs, so I went ironic.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/28/06 06:11 AM
Anyone else not able to connect to the ESPN Games site? :rolleyes:
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/28/06 06:18 AM
me! and my team is not the one I want!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/28/06 06:27 AM
Yay, it's back! You have half an hour. :p
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/28/06 06:33 AM
okay all done now.
I had a CF going against my PS! and Jimmy Rollins, I don't know what's worse :p now I have Vizquel who might not play.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/28/06 06:38 AM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I had a CF going against my PS!
Ahh, nothing really wrong with that. I often pick a PS, and the starter's worst nemesis just in case!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/28/06 02:43 PM
Over/Under 100 as best score of the day:
7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5, 50.0%
Under: 5, 50.0%
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Tue, 7/25: Under (91)
Wed, 7/26: Over (103)
Thu, 7/27; Over (101)
Total to Date:
Over: 7, 50.0%
Under: 7, 50.0%
The average scores on the "Over" days are barely over 100, while they're much lower on the "Under" days.
But that doesn't matter.
All tied up at 7-7.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/28/06 03:02 PM
Thursday Scores (Official) & Friday's Probables
CC 614 OAK (25) 72 686 Min Liriano 12-2 1.93
PL 572 FLA (27) 57 629 Min
JG 570 COL (05) 35 605 Bal Bedard 12-6 3.94
TM 561 SFO (02) 26 587 Min
JL 502 SFO (02) 33 535 SaF Schmidt 7-6 3.12
GG 498 TOR (-2) 14 512 Tor Marcum 1-0 5.43
SC^448 ARI (16) 50 498 Bos Lester 5-0 3.04
DM 448 ARI (16) 44 492 NYM Pedro 7-4 3.45
AL 415 CIN (21) 26 441 Cin Milton 6-6 5.47
(I'm going down to Atl City now...I'll be back Saturday night, so no updates on the scores tomorrow.
If anyone happens to be going down there, I'll be at the Taj poker room from about 2:30 this afternoon until 7:45 tonite. I'm not sure about after that, but I'll be back there Sat morning.)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 02:00 AM
O's SUCK!! :rolleyes:
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 02:01 AM
Thank you Ross Gload (whoever the hell he is).
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 06:22 AM
Friday (unofficial)
CC 686 MIN (24) 43 729
PL 629 MIN (24) 54 683
JG 605 BAL (03) 41 646
TM 587 MIN (24) 51 638
JL 535 SFO (12) 37 572
GG 512 TOR (13) 29 541
DM^492 NYM (18) 37 529
SC 498 BOS (-11) 08 506
AL 441 CIN (16) 29 470
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 12:29 PM
Over/Under 100 as best score of the day:7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5, 50.0%
Under: 5, 50.0%
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Tue, 7/25: Under (91)
Wed, 7/26: Over (103)
Thu, 7/27; Over (101)
Fri, 7/28; Under (79)
Total to Date:
Over: 7, 46.7%
Under: 8, 53.3%
As I said yesterday, the average scores on the "Over" days are barely over 100, while they're much lower on the "Under" days.
Yesterday (79) certainly seems to help ptove that point.
But, as I also said yesterday, that doesn't matter.
So how many straight days of over 100 do you figure we need before we can say that someone scores over 100 "practically every day"?
Starting today, 65 days in a row of someone scoring 100 or more gets it up to 90% of the days.
I guess that comes close to qualifying as "practically every day" :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 01:10 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]O's SUCK!! :rolleyes: [/b]
Well, I'm glad you're finally starting to realize that. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 02:45 PM
Friday's Officialized Scores & Saturday's Probables
CC 686 MIN (24) 43 729 NYY Johnson 11-8 4.80
PL 629 MIN (24) 54 683 NYY
JG 605 BAL (03) 41 646 LAA Weaver 7-0 1.15
TM 587 MIN (24) 51 638 CWS Garland 10-3 4.78
JL 535 SFO (12) 38 573 Hou Oswalt 7-7 3.35
GG 512 TOR (13) 29 541 Tor Jannsen 6-10 5.18
DM^492 NYM (18) 37 529 Hou
SC 498 BOS (-11) 09 507 Bos Beckett 13-5 4.77
AL 441 CIN (16) 29 470 Cin Germano 0-0 0.00
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 09:09 PM
Looks like it's going to be a suckass ps day for most of us.
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Looks like it's going to be a suckass ps day for most of us.
Have you looked to see what your PS did today??
Major suckass.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 11:34 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] Looks like it's going to be a suckass ps day for most of us.
Have you looked to see what your PS did today??
Major suckass. [/b][/quote]My eyeballs can't handle all that pressure. Bad thing is I have that same suckass on my draft team. I guess Geoff's +3 isn't looking so bad now. :rolleyes: Taking the Big Eunich at home against TB seemed better on paper then taking someone against The Red Sox at Fenway.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 11:54 PM
I went against one of my 3 Golden Rules:
1) Never take the NYY PS
2) Never take any PS opposing NYY
3) Never take any PS opposing BOS
I broke Rule #3 as I didn't really like any of the other matchups too much, and figured Weaver could handle it. Guess not.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/29/06 11:59 PM
Saturday (official)
CC 729 NYY (-38) -14 715
PL 683 NYY (-38) -02 681
JG 646 LAA (00) 31 677
TM 638 CWS (-22) 03 641
JL 573 HOU (33) 43 616
DM^529 HOU (33) 53 582
GG 541 TOR (-02) 14 555
SC 507 BOS (16) 41 548
AL 470 CIN (03) 31 501
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/30/06 07:15 AM
Sunday - FLA@PHI D/H (unofficial)
PL^681 MIN (09) 83 764
CC 715 FLA (-21)+(-7) 29 744
TM^641 MIN (09) 89 730
JG 677 FLA (-21)+(-7) 37 714
JL 616 HOU (13) 56 672
DM 582 PHI (10)+(22) 74 656
GG 555 TOR (03) 20 575
SC 548 BOS (-12) 17 565
AL 501 CIN (10) 48 549
FLA: Sanchez (4-0, 3.00) & Moehler (5-7, 6.84)
@
PHI: Wolf (0-0, -.--) & Madson (8-7, 6.18)
MIN: JSantana (12-5, 3.04) vs DET
HOU: Clemens (9-5, 4.65) vs ARI
TOR: Halladay (13-2, 3.06) @ OAK
BOS: Schilling (13-3, 3.60) vs LAA
CIN: Harang (11-6, 3.52) @ MIL
CC PL JG TM JL DM
C Treanor Liberth. Treanor Willingh. Treanor (Varitek)
1B Howard Howard Howard Howard Howard Howard
2B Utley Utley Utley Utley Uggla Uggla
3B Cabrera Cabrera Cabrera Cabrera Cabrera Cabrera
SS Rollins Ramirez Ramirez Ramirez Rollins Rollins
LF Burrell Dellucci (Monroe) Dellucci Burrell (Langerhans)
CF Amezaga Rowand Rowand Amezaga Abercrom. (Taveras)
RF Hermida Abreu Hermida Abreu Abreu Abreu
DH (Finley) (DYoung) (FThomas) Helms Helms (Hillendbrd)
PS FLA (MIN) FLA (MIN) (HOU) PHI
CC - Treanor, Rollins, Burrell, Amezaga, Hermida, Finley, FLA
PL - Liberthal, Ramirez, Dellucci, Rowand, Abreu, DYoung, MIN
JG - Treanor, Monroe, Rowand, Hermida, FThomas, FLA
TM - Willingham, Utley, Ramirez, Dellucci, Amezaga, Abreu, Helms, MIN
JL - Treanor, Uggla, Rollins, Burrell, Abercrombie & Fitch, Helms, HOU
DM - Veritek, Langerhans, Willy, Hillenbrand, PHI
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/30/06 07:23 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
3) Never take any PS opposing BOS
I broke Rule #3 as I didn't really like any of the other matchups too much, and figured Weaver could handle it. Guess not. Weaver pitched "ok". The friggin bullpen blew the lead for him.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/30/06 01:45 PM
Once again I'm let down by the lack of performance by a Johnson. I guess he should get points for showing up at least. :rolleyes:
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/30/06 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Once again I'm let down by the lack of performance by a Johnson.
Does that mean you're randy?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/30/06 03:09 PM
Originally posted by SC:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] Once again I'm let down by the lack of performance by a Johnson.
Does that mean you're randy? [/b][/quote]I'm always randy. I just gotta find a Johnson that's up for the challenge.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/30/06 09:21 PM
Of the four years we've played this game, this year has been the strangest and most unpredictable for horrible - I mean really horrible, like minus 30's and shit - pitching performances by supposedly good pitchers.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/31/06 12:52 AM
And you wonder why there aren't seemingly as many 100+ days as there have usually been in the past -- where practically daily someone scored 100+ points. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/31/06 04:13 AM
Oh, I get it....
You were talking about
last year.
That explains everything.
Over/Under 100 as best score of the day:7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5, 50.0%
Under: 5, 50.0%
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Tue, 7/25: Under (91)
Wed, 7/26: Over (103)
Thu, 7/27; Over (101)
Fri, 7/28; Under (79)
Sat, 7/29: Over (109)
Total to Date:
Over: 8, 50.0%
Under: 8, 50.0%
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/31/06 12:52 PM
Sunday Scores and Monday's Probables
PL^ 681 MIN (09) 84 765 Ari Webb 11-4 2.64
CC 715 FLA (-21)+(-7) 30 745 CWS Contreras 9-3 3.52
TM^ 641 MIN (09) 90 731 CWS
JG 677 FLA (-21)+(-7) 38 715 Ari
JL 616 HOU (13) 57 673 CWS
DM 582 PHI (10)+(22) 75 657 CWS
GG 555 TOR (03) 21 576 -DNP-
SC 548 BOS (-12) 17 565 CWS
AL 501 CIN (10) 49 550 -DNP-
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/31/06 08:19 PM
I'm sure his opinion has changed dramatically since the day he said that the Salary Cap was the game of "skill", while the Yahoo game was nothing more than "luck" and "crafty finagling".
That's the way it generaly goes around here - do well and it's skill, do poorly and it's luck.
Anyway, since this
is more of a game of skill, here's an update on the race for the Overall Points Championship.
I know that JL built his excuse in a few weeks ago - how he was losing interest and everything - which I'm sure would not have been the case if he was doing better, and I've never really considered JG much of a threat in this game but, of course, I guess anything is possible.
1st 2nd
Half Half Total
-
PL 4521 765 5286
TM 4548 731 5279
JL 4583 673 5256
JG 4368 715 5083
CC 3975 745 4720
GG 3717 576 4293
SC 3642 565 4207Very close among the top three - it's really up for grabs.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 07/31/06 10:19 PM
I have Chris Shelton in my lineup today.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/01/06 06:56 AM
Monday Scores & Tuesday's Probables
PL 765 Ari (14) 74 839 Det Verlander 13-4 2.69
CC 745 CWS (17) 47 792 Det
TM 731 CWS (17) 46 777 SaD Peavy 5-10 5.01
JG 715 Ari (14) 38 753 Det
JL 673 CWS (17) 44 717 CWS Buehrle 9-9 4.81
DM 657 CWS (17) 44 701 Det
GG 576 DNP (--) 31 607 Tor Burnett 2-4 4.53
SC 565 CWS (17) 34 599 Cws
AL 550 DNP (--) 26 576 Cin Arroyo 9-7 3.20
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/01/06 12:44 PM
Over/Under 100 as best score of the day:
7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5, 50.0%
Under: 5, 50.0%
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Tue, 7/25: Under (91)
Wed, 7/26: Over (103)
Thu, 7/27; Over (101)
Fri, 7/28; Under (79)
Sat, 7/29: Over (109)
Sun, 7/30: N/A
Mon, 7/31: Over (106)
Total to Date:
Over: 9, 52.9
Under: 8, 47.1%
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 05:38 AM
Tuesday (official)
PL 839 Det (12) 37 876
TM^ 777 SaD (21) 57 834 Not a fluke, indeed.
CC 792 Det (12) 29 821
JG 753 Det (12) 34 787
JL 717 CWS (16) 44 761
DM 701 Det (12) 31 732
SC^ 599 Cws (16) 29 628
GG 607 Tor (00) 16 623 Going against NYY?? Hello?? ;)
AL 576 Cin (-07) 19 596
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 05:53 AM
that's my man Peavy!
he's going to be perfect from now on :p
I just dropped Garret Anderson for Nick Swisher after almost convincing myself that I should settle down with the 1.1 cap left. Swisher #'s against the pitcher he's facing are sick but I know he's gonna go 0-4 and Anderson is gonna rock Loaiza, just like everyone does.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 06:09 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Going against NYY??
Well, according to one Yankee fan, I'm a b**** just because I root for the Astros, so I might as well.
Geoff, I guess Alyson will be your only Band chick from now on - I dropped out. For several reasons, and I'd like to think good reasons, but I'm through. (Maybe I should've played flute?
)
I know it really doesn't matter for this game since we don't compete head-to-head, but I apologize for not setting my lineup in so many days. The baseball spirit is still high in my heart, but it's more so for the "real" thing. And on that note, I'd like to say that Roger Clemens simply gets no respect.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 06:20 AM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 06:39 AM
Aw, you always liked redheads more, anyway.
:p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 06:42 AM
Your PM box is full...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 02:39 PM
This has nothing to do with baseball, but Field of dreams is mentioned enough here and I didn't want to start a thread just for this. :p Kevin Costner is gonna pay a visit to the Field of Dreams farm for the 1st time since the movie was made.
http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/s...ION=ENTERTAINME NT
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 05:08 PM
Oh shit... I paid top dollar for Liriano, and he's not pitching today - Boof Bonser (2-2, 5.30 ERA) is. Nice freakin' name. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 06:09 PM
I still can't believe the Twins got Joe Nathan, Liriano and Boof Bonser in the same trade for Pierzynski.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 06:36 PM
thank god I logged at 3:30 AM last night and noticed Boof over Liriano. now it's Bedard time!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 06:45 PM
Wednesday
PL 876 MIN ()
TM 834 BAL ()
CC 821 MIN ()
JG 787 MIN ()
JL 761 CWS ()
DM 732 MIN ()
SC 628 CWS ()
GG 623 TOR ()
AL 596 CWS ()
MIN: Bonser (2-2, 5.30) replaced Liriano vs TEX
BAL: Bedard (12-6, 3.87) vs SEA
CWS: Garcia (10-6, 4.85) @ KC
TOR: Lilly (9-9, 4.02) @ NYY
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
thank god I logged at 3:30 AM last night and noticed Boof over Liriano. now it's Bedard time!
Don't jinx yourself now, TM.
Only 5 of the 8 runs that Boof ( :rolleyes: ) and Minny gave up are earned.
Bedard gave up two ERs in the first inning already.
All is not lost, Boof-fans.
Don't despair yet.
(I only made this whole post because I wanted to write "Boof" a few times.
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/02/06 07:43 PM
Looks like I'm in for another Schmidtty performance... :rolleyes:
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/03/06 08:06 AM
May I?
I copied the format...hope I did it correctly.
I'm having trouble seeing Wednesday's scores for everybody, so I can't post those - maybe JG's original post can be edited.
Thursday - ARI@CHC D/H
PL 876 Min (-2) 29 905 LAA
TM 834 Bal (16) 42 876 LAA
CC 821 Min (-2) 23 844 LAA
JG 787 Min (-2) 26 813 LAA
JL 761 CWS (-7) 22 783 DET
DM 732 Min (-2) 27 759 ChC
SC 628 CWS (-7) 06 634 (DNP)
GG 623 Tor (-8) 11 634 ChC
AL 596 CWS (-7) 21 617 DET
ARI: Cruz (3-6, 4.84) & Gonzalez (3-2, 4.96)
@
CHC: Marmol (4-4, 4.39) & Mateo (0-0, -.--)
LAA: Jered Weaver (7-0, 1.51) vs. TEX
DET: Nate Robertson (10-6, 3.87) vs. TAM
PL JL DM GG
C (V. Mart) Snyder Barrett Barrett
1B Jackson Jackson Jackson Jackson
2B Hudson Hudson Hudson Hudson
3B Tracy Tracy Ramirez Ramirez
SS Cedeno (Reyes) Cedeno Perez
LF Gonzalez Gonzalez Gonzalez Gonzalez
CF Byrnes Pierre Pierre Pierre
RF Jones Jones Jones Green
DH Nevin Nevin Nevin Rivera
PS (LAA) (DET) CHC CHC PL - VMart, Tracy, Cedeno, Byrnes, LAA
JL - Snyder, Tracy, Reyes, DET
DM - Barrett, ARam, Cedeno, CHC
GG - Barrett, ARam, Perez, Green, Rivera, CHC
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/03/06 01:06 PM
Good job there, GG.
I edited in yesterday's scores for 'ya.
Keep up the good work.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/03/06 01:13 PM
Over/Under 100 as best score of the day:
7/13 - 7/22
Over: 5, 50.0%
Under: 5, 50.0%
Sun, 7/23: N/A
Mon, 7/24: Under (98)
Tue, 7/25: Under (91)
Wed, 7/26: Over (103)
Thu, 7/27; Over (101)
Fri, 7/28; Under (79)
Sat, 7/29: Over (109)
Sun, 7/30: N/A
Mon, 7/31: Over (106)
Tue, 8/01: Under (89)
Wed, 8/02: Under (94)
Total to Date:
Over: 9, 47.4%
Under: 10, 52.6%
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/03/06 01:21 PM
Thursday - ARI@CHC D/H
PL 905 LAA
TM 876 LAA ( )
CC 844 LAA ( )
JG 813 LAA ( )
JL 783 DET ( )
DM 759 ChC ( ) + ( )
SC 634 DNP
GG 634 ChC ( ) + ( )
AL 617 DET ( )
ARI: Cruz (3-6, 4.84) & Gonzalez (3-2, 4.96)
@
CHC: Marmol (4-4, 4.39) & Mateo (0-0, -.--)
LAA: Jared Weaver (7-0, 1.51) vs. TEX
DET: Nate Robertson (10-6, 3.87) vs. TAM
PL JL DM GG
C (V. Mart) Snyder Barrett Barrett
1B Jackson Jackson Jackson Jackson
2B Hudson Hudson Hudson Hudson
3B Tracy Tracy Ramirez Ramirez
SS Cedeno (Reyes) Cedeno Perez
LF Gonzalez Gonzalez Gonzalez Gonzalez
CF Byrnes Pierre Pierre Pierre
RF Jones Jones Jones Green
DH Nevin Nevin Nevin Rivera
PS (LAA) (DET) CHC CHC PL - VMart, Tracy, Cedeno, Byrnes, LAA
JL - Snyder, Tracy, Reyes, DET
DM - Barrett, ARam, Cedeno, CHC
GG - Barrett, ARam, Perez, Green, Rivera, CHC
I'm wondering....
Should it be "Who we want to do especially well"
(i.e. we want
everyone on our team to do well, but especially these guys)
or
"Who we
especially want to do well" ?
(i.e. we don't care that much about the other guys on our team, except for these guys)
Or does it make any difference in meaning?
Or is one more grammatically correct than the other?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/03/06 05:42 PM
Thanks for doing the scores from yesterday, Plaw - I don't know why they weren't showing up, but it's working now. Friggin' ESPN, right?
Speaking of which...friggin' Chicago. I don't know what I was thinking. And besides fantasy, an Arizona loss would be in my best interest, considering the Wild Card race.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/03/06 08:57 PM
From 3:00 AM, when everyones rosters for the next day become available for all to see, until (usually) about 5:30 or so, they don't display any scores from the previous day while they check everything (I guess) and make them "official".
That's why the scores that JG sometimes posts - before 3:00 AM but after the games all are over - occasionally differ by a point or two from the "official" scores that I usually post in the morning.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 01:47 AM
Oh, that's right...
Now that I think about it, I don't usually check the previous day's scores after the deadline, so that makes sense.
And the "official" scores are just based on changes in scoring, I'm assuming.
Which reminds me - Chase Utley's hit streak is up to 35 games, now. I'd heard a broadcaster mention that one play concerning him was originally scored an error, then the official scorer later changed it to a hit. He said that Utley got another hit, besides that, but that got me thinking...that kind of stuff can prove to be very important in something like this situation. I'd hate to have something like that taint the streak...
Then again, you're always going to have those possibilities in baseball, I suppose.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 06:32 AM
Thursday - ARI@CHC D/H (official)
PL 905 LAA (06) 50 955
TM 876 LAA (06) 32 908
CC 844 LAA (06) 28 872
JL^ 783 DET (15) 62 845
JG 813 LAA (06) 28 841 Missed the D/H :/
DM 759 ChC (-12)+(20) 57 816
GG^ 634 ChC (-12)+(20) 63 697
SC 634 DNP (--) 14 648
AL 617 DET (15) 25 642
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 06:21 PM
Friday
PL 955 CHC (03) 07+
TM 908 MIN ()
CC 872 STL ()
JL 845 MIN ()
JG 841 CHC (03) 03+
DM 816 MIN ()
GG 697 MIN ()
SC 648 CWS ()
AL 642 HOU ()
CHC: Zambrano (12-3, 3.26) vs PIT
MIN: JSantana (12-5, 3.11) @ KC
STL: Carpenter (10-5, 2.93) vs MIL
CWS: Garland (11-3, 5.01) @ TOR
HOU: Oswalt (8-7, 3.23) @ ARI
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 07:42 PM
What are the overall points standings?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 08:26 PM
ESPN used to show them on the Group page... :rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 08:37 PM
Is 'StatMan' still keeping track?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 08:39 PM
You could just find the First Half results, then add in our current totals... I'll give you 10 mins.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 08:41 PM
I don't want to step on PL's toes.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/04/06 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
I don't want to step on PL's toes. I have no problem doing it. :p
Overall Points Championship Standings 1st 2nd
Half Half Total
PL 4521 955 5476 Can he hold on?
TM ^ 4548 908 5456 Not a fluke
JL 4583 845 5428 Floundering
JG 4368 841 5209
CC ^ 3975 872 4847
DB 4678 000 4678
GG 3717 697 4414
SC 3642 648 4290
DC 3881 000 3881
DM 0000 816 0816
AL 0000 642 0642
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/05/06 06:06 AM
Friday's Scores (official)
PL 955 CHC (03) 24 979 StatMan holds on..
TM 908 MIN (22) 44 952 ..but TM is close
CC 872 STL (08) 50 922 Offense makes up for pitching
JL 845 MIN (22) 47 892 Also in the heat of the race
^DM 816 MIN (22) 51 867 High score moves him ahead
JG 841 CHC (03) 23 864 Must be the curse of DB's Scrubs
GG 697 MIN (22) 42 739 HR for Willy! (Happy 44th to Rog)
SC 648 CWS (17) 34 682 Hangs on...by an inch!
AL 642 HOU (-4) 37 679 Almost passes SC
PL (ARI) Dustin Nippert, RHP (0-1, 10.80)
TM (FLA) Josh Johnson, RHP (9-5, 2.52)
CC (ARI)
JL (ARI)
DM (MIN) Carlos Silva, RHP (7-9, 6.49)
JG (FLA)
GG (FLA)
AL (HOU) Roger Clemens, RHP (2-4, 2.09)
SC (CWS) Javier Vazquez, RHP (9-6, 5.44)
(
No Webb )
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/05/06 04:28 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
No Webb[/URL])
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/05/06 05:19 PM
Don't worry about my toes.
They might as well hurt like everything else.
Burned by Liriano....burned by Webb.....
How's a guy supposed to win this game?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/05/06 06:34 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Burned by Liriano....burned by Webb.....
How's a guy supposed to win this game?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/05/06 06:51 PM
It's been my experience that the Astros have a knack for giving any rookie or otherwise untrustworthy starter a great game -
especially with Rocket on the mound. It's almost a tradition.
I'm hoping against that, for the boys' sake, but this game could bring anything.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/05/06 07:13 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]Burned by Liriano....burned by Webb.....
How's a guy supposed to win this game?
[/b][/quote]Look who's handing out the tissues...
The "Whinin' King"
(Apologies to Disney - I know, a bad pun....)
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/06/06 05:27 AM
Saturday's Scores (official)
PL 979 ARI (-10) 23 1002 1st in the K Club
TM 952 FLA (-10) 21 0973 Burned by FLA - unable to capitalize
CC 922 ARI (-10) 08 0930 Watch out for DM
^DM 867 MIN (16) 57 0924 On a roll
JL 892 ARI (-10) 22 0914 Enjoyed slammy by Ausmus
JG 864 FLA (-10) 26 0890 Top slice in my sandwich
GG 739 FLA (-10) 32 0771 2,900th career hit for Biggio
SC 682 CWS (35) 63 0745 No change is best?
AL 679 HOU (19) 45 0724 Trusted my boys - Roger finally gets run support
PL (FLA) Scott Olsen, LHP (9-4, 3.90)
TM (PIT) Ian Snell, RHP (9-7, 4.66)
CC (FLA)
DM (STL) Jeff Suppan, RHP (8-6, 5.07)
JL (SDG) Jake Peavy, RHP (5-11, 4.81)
JG (ATL) John Smoltz, RHP (9-5, 3.45)
GG (SDG)
SC (CWS) Jose Contreras, RHP (10-3, 3.54)
AL (COL) Aaron Cook, RHP (7-9, 3.79)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/06/06 05:55 AM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/06/06 06:12 AM
No problem - not sure how many more times I'll be able to, but I enjoy it.
Just let me know if there's ever anything that you need me to change, or that I'm doing wrong.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/06/06 09:14 AM
look out for Snell's stellar performance on sunday
the Cubs suck too much to get in my way
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/06/06 12:45 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
No problem - not sure how many more times I'll be able to, but I enjoy it.
Just let me know if there's ever anything that you need me to change, or that I'm doing wrong. I don't care what anyone says, GG....
You're doing a helluva job
Very much appreciated, too, since JG and I are clearly losing steam here.
Just in case you run out, BTW, here are a few ideas for comments you can use for me:
-- Winning easily
-- Everything under control
-- Not threatened
-- Pulling away
-- Much the best
-- Looks like a runaway
-- Increases lead
-- Won't be caught
-- Race is now for second place
-- No one's gonna catch him now
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 01:26 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Just in case you run out, BTW, here are a few ideas for comments you can use for me:
After reading those, I've got a few ideas of my own. :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 03:08 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Just in case you run out, BTW, here are a few ideas for comments you can use for me:
I like this one: "lost half of his big lead in one day".
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 03:51 AM
Sunday's Scores (official)
PL 1002 FLA (03) 30 1032 Lost half of his big lead in one day ;)
TM 0973 PIT (03) 45 1018 Still wanting 1st
JL^ 0914 SDG (25) 72 0986 Coming for PL?
DM 0924 STL (30) 44 0968 In the middle of a JL/CC switcheroo
CC 0930 FLA (03) 28 0958 Becomes a bread slice in JG's CS
JG 0890 ATL (21) 38 0928 Happy where he is?
GG 0771 SDG (25) 36 0807 Lack of offense spoils pitching points
SC 0745 CWS (-3) 12 0757 Tough day overall
AL 0724 COL (-4) 25 0749 Lack of pitching spoils offensive points
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 04:00 AM
Man, I just did all that work, too...
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Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 04:03 AM
Oh, I'm sorry!
I'd even been checking to see if you were online, in case that would happen.
Next time, I'll make a post saying that I'm about to do it, then edit it...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 04:07 AM
It's okay.. it's easier for me if you do it
(I usually update Diamond Daily and the Draft games first, cuz they're easiest, so that should let you know if I'm about to do BBC or not.)
PS - And yes, I am happy where I am...
for now!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 05:18 PM
Interesting pitching day!
Monday's ProbablesPL 1032 (LAD) Brad Penny, RHP (11-5, 3.50)
TM 1018 (MIN) Francisco Liriano, LHP (12-2, 1.96)
JL 0986 (LAD)
DM 0968 (MIN)
CC 0958 (MIN)
JG 0928 (LAD) No catcher?
GG 0807 (MIN)
SC 0757 (MIN)
AL 0749 (LAD)
PL & JG:
I just wanted to give y'all a heads-up that I probably won't be able to do these much longer.
It's not so much taking the time to do it - I have the time and enjoy it - but the time at which I need to do it. School starts very soon, and I won't get to stay up late - I'd be up until midnight waiting for the west coast games to end, and I couldn't do the probables until the deadline, of course.
Not that this lifestyle doesn't suit me...I'm a night owl at heart - but it won't work for school.
I might have the chance to do it on non-school nights, though, so I'll pitch in whenever I can.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 05:24 PM
You da woman, Gina!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 06:03 PM
Hi, CS!
Hmmm...does this appearance in BBC mean you're coming back?!
Don't make me beg!
(Or have I already done that?
)
How have you been?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 06:06 PM
Excuse me, but it appears
I'm in the chick sandwich now. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 08:09 PM
That's true...
But he's still CS to me, so I guess you could be CS2?
That is, until you make your move up to the top, as you've been implying. :p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 08:39 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
That is, until you make your move up to the top, as you've been implying. :p
You'd think he'd be able to beat at least one person above him, say someone with 2 less days than him...and this is HIS sport :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 09:57 PM
Geoff's in a chick sandwich with no catcher.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/07/06 10:58 PM
I guess I was more concerned about the pitching than the catching...
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 01:21 AM
Oh yeah... this game.
I missed you all. The game, not so much-- but you guys, totally.
Gi is the new PL and JG put together, I see. Only infinitely more productive. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 03:18 AM
Monday's ScoresPL 1032 LAD ()
TM 1018 MIN (-12) -01+
JL 0986 LAD ()
DM 0968 MIN (-12) 12+
CC 0958 MIN (-12) 09+
JG 0928 LAD ()
GG 0807 MIN (-12) 03+
SC 0757 MIN (-12) 15+
AL 0749 LAD ()
A Penny for your thoughts...should've taken LAD.
I think Zia should be added to the standings again, btw - I'm sure she can't wait to get back to her lineup.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 05:43 AM
Monday (official)
PL 1032 LAD (27) 63 1095 Has a good day in both games
JL^ 0986 LAD (27) 63 1049 Yadie' yadie' yadie' (11) ...
TM 1018 MIN (-12) 06 1024 Ouch.
DM 0968 MIN (-12) 20 0988 Homie Thome (10) salvages him
JG^ 0928 LAD (27) 56 0984 Didn't need a catcher to catch her
CC 0958 MIN (-12) 10 0968 She LaRues (0) the day...
AL^ 0749 LAD (27) 71 0820 Rookie does Wells (10)
GG 0807 MIN (-12) 07 0814 Not Rolen (12) tonight
SC 0757 MIN (-12) 24 0781 I hope you can change your mind! :(
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 06:08 AM
Them crazy boys in blue... I was tired tonight but I went to the game anyway, because I hadn't been to any in a month. Boy, am I glad I went! Their 10th straight win!
I love Jeff Kent. Really.
Congrats to those who wisely picked them. 27 pts!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 06:51 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]
Just in case you run out, BTW, here are a few ideas for comments you can use for me:
I like this one: "lost half of his big lead in one day". [/b][/quote]What big lead? 29?
I like this one for today, though:
"Triples his lead in one day."
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 06:54 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
"Triples his lead in one day." I don't recall having said
that... :p
Over whom? DMC??
cuz certainly no one else in contention...
Fantasies are fun, so I hear... :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 06:57 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
PL & JG:
I just wanted to give y'all a heads-up that I probably won't be able to do these much longer.
I feel a second wind coming on.
(Insert "breaking wind" or "passing wind" comment here:)
"______________________________________________________"
When you're ready to bow out, let us know.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 07:10 AM
You make it seem like I haven't done anything....
:p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 05:27 PM
Tuesday (unofficial)
PL 1095 SEA (33) 61 1156 No movement
JL 1049 SEA (33) 61 1110 No movement
TM 1024 SEA (33) 56 1080 Loses a little ground
DM 0988 LAA (17) 33 1021 Worried yet?
JG 0984 LAA (17) 36 1020 Knocking on DM's back door...
CC^ 0968 LAA (17) 52 1020 Ties it up; Crabcake sandwich!
GG^ 0814 SEA (33) 53 0867 Both chicks move up!
AL 0820 LAD (23) 42 0862 Gonna take that from Gina?
SC 0781 MIN (17) 44 0825 Like this game yet?
SEA: FHernandez (10-9, 4.49) vs TAM
LAA: Weaver (7-0, 1.81) @ CLE
LAD: Maddux (10-11, 4.49) vs COL
MIN: Radke (10-8, 4.75) @ DET
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/08/06 05:30 PM
Greetings from Vegas. ....Don't look down PL.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/09/06 11:36 AM
What does that mean?
That you're on the 46th floor of some hotel?
Don't worry, though....I never look down...I only look up and ahead.
And I don't expect a Vegas trip to provide you with an excuse for missing days and losing the second half here.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/09/06 12:02 PM
Tuesday's Official Scores & Wednesday's Probables Originally posted by J Geoff:
JG............... 36 1020 Knocking on DM's back door....
This is still a family show, right?
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/09/06 05:15 PM
"Is today the first day that TM missed this season?"
yes. :p
I went out fishing in a hurry and really didn't remember neither had the time.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/09/06 10:35 PM
My compliments, TM.
Considering that in past years the only category you finished first in was "Missed Days".....
Not to mention the fact (as I pointed out in the past on numerous occasions) that once you did start to play every day, you have proven to be worthy competition.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/09/06 11:23 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
What does that mean?
That you're on the 46th floor of some hotel?
Don't worry, though....I never look down...I only look up and ahead.
And I don't expect a Vegas trip to provide you with an excuse for missing days and losing the second half here. If you want to know, it's the 25th floor of The Mirage.
I probably won't miss any days, but I'm not exactly spending much time picking my team.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 01:27 AM
The Mirage....my favorite joint in Vegas.
The best poker room for someone at my level.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 06:01 AM
Wednesday (unofficial)
PL 1157 Tor (23) 44 1201
JL 1111 Hou (36) 47 1158
TM 1082 Sea (33) 56 1138
DM 1021 NYM (17) 39 1060
CC^1020 Bos (09) 36 1056
JG 1021 LAA (08) 32 1053
GG 0868 NYM (17) 33 0901
AL 0864 LAD (17) 35 0899
SC 0826 Min (30) 43 0869
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 06:40 AM
I like The Mirage too. They upgraded my room to a "Tower Deluxe" Room on the 25th floor. My girlfriend was never to Vegas, so I didn't want to subject her to staying at the "Imperial Palace" yet.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 06:46 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
They upgraded my room to a "Tower Deluxe Room on the 25th floor.
Losing so much they want you to stick around, huh? :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 07:18 AM
They gave me the room when I checked in, but after the beating I took today, they might as well give me the room for free.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 09:55 AM
Wednesday Official Scores & Thursday's Probables
PL 1157 Tor (23) 45 1202 Hou Clemens 3-4 2.32
JL 1111 Hou (36) 48 1159 Hou
TM 1082 Sea (33) 56 1138 Bos Schilling 14-4 3.78
DM 1021 NYM (17) 40 1061 Hou
CC^ 1020 Bos (09) 36 1056 Hou
JG 1021 LAA (08) 32 1053 Hou
GG 0868 NYM (17) 34 0902 Bos
AL 0864 LAD (17) 35 0899 Mil Davis (??) 7-6 5.01
SC 0826 Min (30) 43 0869 Min Silva (DNP) 8-9 6.37
A day-and-a-half lead for
PL, while
JL readies his Vegas excuses......
TM should try missing a few more days......
DM in a 3-way battle for fourth place, along with
CC and the enigmatic
JG......Looks like
GG has given up......
AL still trying to figure out how to pick a pitching staff......and
SC is busy just being himself.
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 01:11 PM
I really just dig the long ball.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 09:43 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Looks like [b]GG has given up......[/b]
What makes you say that?
I mean, I'm certainly not expecting a top spot in the standings, but I'm still playing, so far.
I don't have much to show for it when you consider my points and ranking, but I am setting my lineup. A for effort?
School started today, so I'm going to have to start making baseball sacrifices. And I don't mean sac bunts.
I'm hoping to still keep up with the Astros, but I'll probably end up missing some fantasy days every so often.
Since I'm taking Satistics, I'm wondering if there's any way to convince the teacher to involve baseball in every class discussion...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 10:25 PM
Statistics?? I couldn't be prouder!
[Tear] :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/10/06 10:53 PM
You know, I mentioned that especially for you.
:p
I'm really looking forward to the class. I had the teacher for Pre-Cal, and he's great - I also think I'll be more interested in this subject than Calculus.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 04:16 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]Looks like [b]GG has given up......[/b]
What makes you say that?
[/b][/quote]I dunno....I wasn't paying real close attention, but I somehow had the impression you were only playing sparodically lately.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 05:48 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I somehow had the impression you were only playing sparodically lately.
Same impression I got with your commishing... :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 06:06 AM
Santana gave up the run that gave the Indians the lead. The Angels never tied game, so Santana gets the loss.
Now you move your post, and make me look like I'm talking to myself. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 06:26 AM
You could've moved with it... :p
So, how much up/down are you now?? Get the Penthouse yet?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 06:49 AM
Thursday (official)
PL 1202 Hou (23) 46 1248 Holding on
JL 1159 Hou (23) 54 1213 Gained on 1st Place
TM 1138 Bos (03) 31 1169 Minor slip-up
CC^ 1056 Hou (23) 60 1116 Gained on 1st Place
DM 1061 Hou (23) 49 1110 Gained on 1st Place
JG 1053 Hou (23) 53 1106 Gained on 1st Place
AL^ 0899 Mil (11) 41 0940 Gained on 3rd Place
GG 0902 Bos (03) 27 0929 Major slip-up
SC 0869 Min (05) 06 0876 DNP
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 02:32 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
You could've moved with it... :p
So, how much up/down are you now?? Get the Penthouse yet? I had a pretty good night playing 50 hand, deuces wild video poker, of all things. I nailed 3 deuces on the first hand, and needless to say kicked ass on all 50 hands.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 02:33 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]Thursday (unofficial)
PL 1202 Hou (23) 46 1248 Holding on
JL 1159 Hou (23) 54 1213 Gained on 1st Place
[/b]
chip, chip, chip.....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 04:38 PM
Friday
PL 1248 ATL ()
JL 1213 ATL ()
TM 1169 TAM ()
CC 1116 DET ()
DM 1110 OAK ()
JG 1106 ATL ()
AL 0940 HOU ()
GG 0929 BOS ()
SC 0876 MIN ()
ATL: Smoltz (9-5, 3.54) vs MIL
TAM: Kazmir (10-7, 3.36) @ OAK
(vs DM)DET: Verlander (14-4, 2.79) @ CHW
OAK: Haren (9-9, 3.67) vs TAM
(vs TM)HOU: Pettitte (10-12, 4.96) vs SDG
BOS: DWells (0-2, 8.05) vs BAL
MIN: Garza (NR) vs TOR
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/11/06 08:35 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I dunno....I wasn't paying real close attention, but I somehow had the impression you were only playing sparodically lately.
You mean sporadically? :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 04:46 AM
Friday (unofficial)
PL 1248 ATL (32) 43 1291 Is JL StatMan's kryptonite?
JL 1213 ATL (32) 71 1284 Everything's DeRosy
TM 1169 TAM (01) 41 1210 PS wastes great offense
JG^ 1106 ATL (32) 88 1194 Leaves his sandwich far behind
DM 1110 OAK (30) 62 1172 Good day not enough to hold back JG
CC 1116 DET (04) 17 1133 0'fers and 2 DNPS hurt
AL 0940 HOU (33) 78 1018 Must be good luck for my Astros
GG 0929 BOS (19) 55 0984 1 1/2 back in WC!
SC 0876 MIN (-1) 19 0895 More scores like Rollins' might get him rollin'
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 05:23 AM
I don't think PL is going to like the results. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:02 AM
I'm doing Saturday's stuff now...I'll edit this.
Edit: Are you, right now?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:26 AM
Saturday
PL 1292 CLE ()+()
JL 1286 CLE ()+()
TM 1211 CLE ()+()
JG 1196 CLE ()+()
DM 1173 CLE ()+()
CC 1134 ARI ()
AL 1018 ARI ()
GG 0984 ARI ()
SC 0898 MIN ()
KC: OPerez (0-0, 7.00) & De La Rosa (1-1, 8.59)
@
CLE: Sabathia (8-8, 3.43) & Guthrie (0-0, 6.59)
ARI: Webb (12-4, 2.74) vs FLA
MIN: Bonser (2-3, 5.67) vs TOR
PL JL TM CC JG DM GG
C VMart Buck VMart (Yadier) VMart Bako VMart
1B (Giambi) (Pujols) (Giambi) (Casey) (Overbay) (Sexson) (CDuncan)
2B Grudz Grudz (DeRosa) Grudz Grudz Grudz Grudz
3B Teahen Teahen Marte Teahen Teahen Teahen Teahen
SS Perlata Peralta Peralta Berroa Peralta Peralta Peralta
LF Michaels Michaels Michaels (Soriano) Brown Michaels Michaels
CF DeJesus Sizemore Sizemore Sizemore DeJesus Sizemore Sizemore
RF Shealy Shealy Shealy Sanders Shealy Sanders Shealy
DH Hafner Hafner Hafner Hafner Hafner Hafner Hafner
PS CLE CLE CLE (ARI) CLE CLE (ARI) PL - VMart, (Giambi), DeJesus
JL - Buck, (Pujols), Grudzielanek, Teahen, Sizemore
TM - VMart, (Giambi), (DeRosa), Marte, Peralta, Michaels, Shealy, CLE
JG - VMart, (Overbay), Peralta, Brown, DeJesus, Shealy, CLE
DM - Bako, (Sexson), Michaels, Sizemore, Sanders, CLE
CC - (YMolina), (Casey), Berroa, (Soriano), Sizemore, Sanders, (ARI)
AL - everyone
GG - VMart, (CDuncan-who?), Shealy, (ARI)
SC - Yup.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:28 AM
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:30 AM
i'm coming for ya JG
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:32 AM
I hope I didn't fuck everything up, cuz the order is all wrong btwn standings and lineups... not sure how that happened (well, I have an
idea!, but...
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:33 AM
Originally posted by Don Alessandrio:
i'm coming for ya JG
:p
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:35 AM
LOL I think I got that pitching thing down
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:36 AM
The fault is mine - I should've made a post sooner, but I didn't think to until the deadline.
I would compliment the teamwork you and PL seemed to maintain, but I suppose that was only because he let you do everything, right?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:43 AM
PL is no longer with the firm... apparently.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/12/06 07:52 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I say, from now on, whoever's in 1st Place should do the standings for everyone! :p No. I have better things to do this week. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 05:18 AM
Saturday
PL 1292 CLE (27)+(10) 98 1390
JL 1286 CLE (27)+(10) 102 1388 Knock knock!
TM 1211 CLE (27)+(10) 92 1303
JG 1196 CLE (27)+(10) 95 1291
DM 1173 CLE (27)+(10) 90 1263
CC 1134 ARI (20) 73 1207
GG^ 0984 ARI (20) 86 1070 Coulda beat us all
AL 1018 ARI (20) 41 1059
SC 0898 MIN (13) 44 0942
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 05:33 AM
And let's not forget the Overall Points Championship:
:D
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 06:20 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Coulda beat us all
So close...I came so close to going with Cleveland, but I didn't have the guts to do it. Serves me right.
And just as all my baseball karma was good yesterday, it turned sour today...Astros lost, Reds won, and this.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 07:40 AM
Sunday (Edited with official scores)
PL 1393 MIN ()
JL 1391 SFG ()
TM 1305 NYY ()
JG 1294 CLE ()
DM 1266 STL ()
CC 1209 HOU ()
GG 1073 LAD ()
AL 1060 OAK ()
SC 0942 MIN ()
MIN: Brad Radke (11-8, 4.65)
SFG: Jason Schmidt (9-7, 3.15)
NYY: Chien-Ming Wang (13-4, 3.69)
CLE: Jeremy Sowers (3-3, 3.93)
STL: Jason Marquis (12-10, 5.82)
HOU: Brandon Backe (3-1, 3.69)
LAD: Greg Maddux (10-11, 4.43)
OAK: Esteban Loaiza (5-7, 6.41)
(
JL vs. GG)
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 07:49 AM
Hmmm. Interesting.
PL takes Radke, a contact pitcher that doesn't K anyone, against the ML's #1 hitting team.
And I take Schmidt against the hottest team in baseball.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
And I take Schmidt against the hottest team in baseball.
I actually wish you well with that pick...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 03:57 PM
I checked Schmidt's numbers against the Dodgers, and they're hitting about .190 against him. Plus they're playing in pitcher friendly Dodger Stadium, so I think he'll do fine.
....maybe.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 04:12 PM
How do you figure Toronto as the #1 hitting team in the majors?
I don't put much stock in batting average, if that's your basis - I go by runs scored.
Today was a tough day to pick a PS - one of the toughest of the season, I thought.
But Radke's been excellent over his last 10-12 starts, the Twins have been hot and Toronto's been cold, and the only other pitcher I seriously considered was Wang.
(EDIT: I just checked....Toronto leads the majors in batting average, but they're 7th in runs scored. And they hit considerably better at home than they do on the road)
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 04:22 PM
The Blue Jays have a team batting average of .288, and a team SLG% of .473. Both tops in the Major Leagues. They are 7th in runs scored, and 3rd in HR's.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 04:51 PM
That doesn't make them the best hitting team in the majors, IMO.
I'm not saying they're not a
good hitting team, and if you look at my past picks, I seldom if ever go against them at home, one of the better hitting parks in the majors (which accounts for, in large part, their good hitting records. Check their splits for home games vs. road games. That, IMO, is one of the most significant splits to look at as there is - not something like "a team's record on Saturdays"
)
It's all about runs...that's how teams win games, and in
this games the runs that a pitcher allows are the largest basis for deductions.
Just two quick examples - there are loads more: Colorado and the Cubs both have higher team batting averages than the Mets - would you say that they're better hitting teams than the Mets are?
As far as Radke vs. Schmidt goes....
Minnesota, in Radke's last 13 starts, has gone 10-3 with Radke pitching 81.2 innings with an E.R.A. of 2.87
The Giants, in Schmidt's last 10 starts, are 4-6 with Schmidt pitching 62 innings with an E.R.A. of 4.21
Radke at home, Schmidt on the road.....Minny and the Dodgers hot teams, Toronto and San Fran not.....Radke the hotter pitcher recently......
Not to say that Schmidt won't go out there and pitch a shutout while Radke gets bombed, but that's how I figured it.
BTW....when you talk about which team is the best hitting team in the majors, you have to throw in some kind of adjustment for the AL vs. the NL because of the designated hitter.
When you do, I'm sure a few NL teams move past Toronto.
Or, you can just look at the AL separately....
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 04:56 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
But Radke's been excellent over his last 10-12 starts, the Twins have been hot and Toronto's been cold, and the only other pitcher I seriously considered was Wang.
([b]EDIT: I just checked....Toronto leads the majors in batting average, but they're 7th in runs scored. And they hit considerably better at home than they do on the road) [/b]
We'll see. Radke's been winning, and not allowing too many runs. Teams are hitting .314 against him for the season, and .321 in the last 7 games though. I don't like those numbers against the team with the highest batting average.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 05:04 PM
Fair point, but what's more significant is Toronto's batting average on the road.
Can't seem to find it, though....
Also, this game pays off a lot more on runs allowed than it does on hits allowed, so I consider Radke's E.R.A. to be a lot more important than his batting average against.
In any case, if you look at the AL separately, Toronto is 6th in runs scored in a 14-team league.
To me, that does not make them one of the best hitting teams in the majors, and that's a lot more realistic than saying they're a better hitting team than 16 others who play in a league without a designated hitter.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 05:07 PM
Now I gotta go root for JG's old Wang in the Yahoo game
There's a thought to make your blood run cold.....
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 05:14 PM
Toronto has one of the most hitter friendly parks in the AL, but I'd have to assume that the Metrodome stil is too.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 05:34 PM
I can not believe I picked the Yankees PS.
this sentence was already about to be said before Fuckin' Wang allowed 6 hits and 3 runs in the first inning.
I'm really in a major PS slump. maybe Feliz Hernandez was the pick today..
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 06:01 PM
It's a good thing nobody picked Luke Hudson. 11 earned runs in 1/3 of an inning!
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 08:37 PM
Looks like PL made the right choice.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 08:43 PM
Lets see what Schmidt does. Who knows? Maybe a 40-pointer tonight.
And if you wind up with a few less pitching points, you could make it up on offense with the cap room you saved on Schmidt.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/13/06 08:57 PM
My offense was pretty quiet today. I can't complain though. No matter what Schmidt does tonight, I had a great week and got back into the game.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 02:42 AM
Damn. I had visions of a 14 inning, 1-0, 50 point game for the Giants.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 02:47 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
Damn. I had visions of a 14 inning, 1-0, 50 point game for the Giants.
JL, I wouldn't have cared which of us got the win - I wanted them to go on forever, considering the way they were playing!
What a great game, though, regardless of fantasy. Baseball at its best.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 02:55 AM
On a bright note, it got me 9 points for Saito and my Yahoo team.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 03:00 AM
yeah, great game.
on another note, Grady Little is an idiot.
why did he take Maddux off with 68 pitches thrown? this could've easily fucked the Dodgers.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 03:33 AM
Sunday (unofficial)
PL 1393 MIN (31) 54 1447 Holds off JL
JL 1391 SFG (26) 42 1433 Enjoyed pitching duel
JG^ 1294 CLE (27) 53 1347 Destroying everyone in his path
TM 1305 NYY (00) 19 1324 Can never trust those Yanks
DM 1266 STL (-5) 25 1291 Hafner helped
CC 1209 HOU (-11) 03 1212 Hou PS was painful for us both :(
GG 1073 LAD (35) 64 1137 Thanks to Zia's Dodgers
AL 1060 OAK (29) 68 1128 Top Score
SC 0942 MIN (31) 59 1001 Stole PL's PS guidebook? Or you gave him the tip? ;)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 04:13 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
On a bright note, it got me 9 points for Saito and my Yahoo team. On an even
brighter note, it got me
28 pts from Schmidt. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 04:20 AM
Didn't do shit for me
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 05:04 AM
Look at it this way, if I would have told you this morning that the Giants' pitching staff would throw 9 shutout innings, could you have imagined that you would still score more than me?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 11:10 AM
Absolutely not.
I ain't complaining.
If anyone has the right to whine it's you guys, for not getting the additional points for the win.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 11:23 AM
Sunday Scores & Monday's Probables(Just one point added to SC make scores official)
PL 1393 MIN (31) 54 1447 Oak Zito 12-8 3.73
JL 1391 SFG (26) 42 1433 Hou Oswalt 9-7 3.27
JG^ 1294 CLE (27) 53 1347 LAD Lowe 9-8 4.09
TM 1305 NYY (00) 19 1324 LAD
DM 1266 STL (-5) 25 1291 ChC Zambrano 12-5 3.54
CC 1209 HOU (-11) 03 1212 LAD
GG 1073 LAD (35) 64 1137 Oak
AL 1060 OAK (29) 68 1128 Oak
SC 0942 MIN (31) 60 1002 Bos Beckett 13-6 4.92
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 05:55 PM
I'll be damned if Zito pitch another shutout of the Mariners.
I did poorly several times picking against teams in a hot streak, and now I'm in the hot streak with the Dodgers. come on BLowe!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
I'll be damned if Zito pitch another shutout of the Mariners.
You're talking about
if Zito pitches a shutout tonight, right?
Oakland is 3-0 vs. Seattle this year with Zito pitching, who has given up only 1 run in 20 IPs against them.
But in his last start he gave up one run in 7 IPs, and he hasn't pitched a shutout against them (you need to pitch a complete game to officially get credit for a shutout against a team) - at least not this year.
He looked like a good pick tonight, though. I also considered Oswalt or Zambrano, but I never thought of taking Lowe, who I don't trust at all.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 07:40 PM
Since Lowe's complete game shutout against Seattle on June 22, which ran the Dodgers record to 10-6 with him starting and lowered his E.R.A. to 2.90...
Lowe has made 9 more starts.
The Dodgers are 3-6 in those 9 games, and Lowe's E.R.A. over that span has been 6.49
And that includes his last two starts, in which he's pitched well (15.2 IPs, 2.30 E.R.A).
Throw out those two games, and his E.R.A. for the 7 games was 8.27
Of course on the other hand you could throw out the 7 bad games he had in a row, and the Dodgers are 11-7 with him starting, and his E.R.A. is only 2.82
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 07:54 PM
See? With fancy math you can make any point!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 08:08 PM
Well, in this particular case it depends on which stats you choose to value and which you don't.
But there are some situations in which any way you look at it the conclusions are inescapable.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/14/06 11:58 PM
that's why you can't simply "throw out" one start or another from a pitcher's game log to make him look better or worse.
as far as Zito, it's true, he still didn't pitch a genuine SHO against the Mariners (at least not this year) but his numbers against them are worth like he did it 2 or 3 times.
47.1 IP and 9 ER for an E.R.A. of 1.72 the last two years and .45 E.R.A. in 20 IP this season.
as far as Lowe, I also don't trust him at all.
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 12:05 AM
...and since I have to kill some time before going to class, here are some reasons why Lowe should be a good pick today
1) first and most, the Dodgers are on a row, and they play really good on they're on a row. (as long as it is a
winning row, because they do STINK when they're on a
losing row)
2) Lowe has just had an outstanding outing agains the Marlins two weeks ago. 7 IP 5 H 1 ER 0 BB 5 K 1 W
3) I expect the Marlins to start looking more like the minor league team they should be
and the reason why I didn't take none of Zito, Zambrano and Oswalt
1) if I picked Zito and he got bombed, I wouldn't be able to live with myself anymore
2) the Cubs suck
3) the Astros suck
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 02:32 AM
Fuck Zito. He's nothing more than a "good" pitcher. The Mets better not open their vault for this guy. Thank God they didn't give up their top prospects to get him for the strecth run. I have more faith in Maine than him. They can offer him a modest contract in the off-season, but it better not be huge $$$.
....yes he's pissing me off tonight.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 08:53 AM
Personally, I don't care how much money they offer Zito or spend on him as a free agent; after all, the Mets are not my father's business, and I'm not all that concerned with their profitability.
In terms of giving up prospects, it gets a little trickier.
The Mets are headed for the playoffs -- do they have even one reliable starter at this point?
All the talk about Lastings Milledge -- Have any of us really seen enough of the guy or are any of us really astute enough to judge whether or not he's a "can't miss" player?
I'm always reminded of Alex Ochoa and, more recently, Alex Escobar - two more guys who "couldn't miss" being stars.
The Mets have a chance to win it all this season.
Next year, Pedro, Glavine and Delgado will all be a year older, so who knows?
Zito isn't Roger Clemens or Johann Santana or Roy Halladay or Chris Carpenter or any of the "elite" starting pitchers in baseball, but he could be what the Mets need this year to win a World Series.
On that basis, if I were a Mets fan, I'd trade for a guy like him if I could, and if I had to give up a top prospect I would.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 10:29 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I dunno....I wasn't paying real close attention, but I somehow had the impression you were only playing sparodically lately.
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
You mean sporadically? :p (I couldn't resist. )Just for the record, that was a typographical error.
I reversed the "a" and the "o".
I don't proof read my posts much anymore like I used to, either. Especially the longer ones
Getting lazy in my old age, I guess.....
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 10:31 AM
Monday's Scores & Tuesday's ProbablesPL 1447 Oak (13) 46 1493 Hou Clemens 4-4 2.24
JL 1433 Hou (12) 46 1479 Hou
JG 1347 LAD (22) 43 1390 Tor Halladay 14-3 3.23
TM 1324 LAD (22) 40 1364 StL Carpenter 10-6 3.27
DM 1291 ChC (25) 38 1329 Tor
CC 1212 LAD (22) 41 1253 Hou
GG 1137 Oak (13) 34 1171 Min Santana 13-5 3.24
AL 1128 Oak (13) 36 1164 Tor
SC 1002 Bos (02) 57 1059 Bos Schilling 14-5 3.89
First Second Points
Half Half Total Behind
-
JL 4583 1479 6062 --
PL 4521 1493 6014 48
TM 4548 1364 5912 150
JG 4368 1390 5758 304
CC 3975 1253 5228 834
GG 3717 1171 4888 1174
SC 3642 1059 4701 1361
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 04:38 PM
Any Firefox users here, and, are you having problems loading player/team profile pages such as
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp?playerId=4062 ?? It seems to work okay in IE, but for some reason it's not in Firefox for me now... but all other sites seems to work fine :rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 05:49 PM
No problems here with SeaMonkey.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/15/06 05:54 PM
shit... I better ask in General then... thanks
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/16/06 04:31 AM
It's pretty funny when you're in the 14th inning and
Zambrano is pinch hitting
Ouch... GIDP...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/16/06 04:48 AM
PS - Sorry, but I gotta hit the sack cuz I gotta get up at 6... will be away all day, so... Ass Commishes be warned!
See ya tomorrow night
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/16/06 07:47 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I gotta hit the sack cuz I gotta get up at 6... will be away all day, so... Ass Commishes be warned!
You talkin' to me?
You talkin' to
me?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/16/06 12:16 PM
Tuesday's Scores & Wednesday's ProbablesPL 1493 Hou (23) 47 1540 Atl Smoltz 10-5 3.41
JL 1479 Hou (23) 45 1524 Atl
TM^ 1364 StL (34) 66 1430 CWS Contreras 11-4 3.53
JG 1390 Tor (19) 34 1424 Atl
DM 1329 Tor (19) 54 1383 CWS
CC 1253 Hou (23) 61 1314 CWS
GG 1171 Min (33) 62 1233 CWS
AL 1164 Tor (19) 55 1219 CWS
SC 1059 Bos (10) 37 1096 Bos Wells 1-2 6.23
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/17/06 11:28 AM
Wednesday's Scores & Thursday's ProbablesPL 1540 Atl (-14) 17 1557 Ari Webb 13-4 2.77
JL 1524 Atl (-14) 26 1550 CWS Buehrle 9-10 4.87
JG^ 1424 Atl (-14) 11 1435 Ari
TM 1430 CWS (-11) 00 1430 SaD Peavy 6-11 4.58
DM 1383 CWS (-11) 16 1399 CWS
CC 1314 CWS (-11) 08 1322 NYM Maine 2-3 2.64
AL^ 1219 CWS (-11) 25 1244 CWS
GG 1233 CWS (-11) 03 1236 SaD
SC 1096 Bos (12) 23 1119 Det Rogers 11-6 4.36
Buehrle: Not much to choose from for today, but the Pale Hose are 2-6 in his last 8 starts, and he has an E.R.A. of 8.93 in 45.1 IPs over that span.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/17/06 03:45 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
]Buehrle: Not much to choose from for today, but the Pale Hose are 2-6 in his last 8 starts, and he has an E.R.A. of 8.93 in 45.1 IPs over that span.
He's pitching against the AAA Royals, who have only won 17 games on the road. KC won the last two, so odds are they aren't going to win this one. He's also faced them two other times this year and only given up 2 runs in each start.
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/17/06 04:21 PM
i'm not going to lie, I accidently picked Buehrle
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/18/06 07:11 AM
Enrique Gonzalez?
PL, WTF is up with that?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/18/06 10:30 AM
"That" *cough* was me making a mistake and forgetting to change my PS to Oakland.....
Ah well, these mistakes have been known to work out. :rolleyes:
But this bum, at Coors.....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/18/06 02:37 PM
Thursday (official)
PL 1557 Ari (-5) 19 1576
JL 1550 CWS (07) 23 1573 knock-knock
JG 1435 Ari (-5) 24 1459
TM 1430 SaD (02) 28 1458 knock-knock
DM 1399 CWS (07) 35 1434
CC 1322 NYM (23) 38 1360
AL 1244 CWS (07) 32 1276
GG 1236 SaD (02) 25 1261
SC 1119 Det (21) 47 1166
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/18/06 03:04 PM
Friday
PL 1576 ARI ()
JL 1573 OAK ()+()
JG 1459 OAK ()+()
TM 1458 KAN ()+()
DM 1434 OAK ()+()
CC 1360 OAK ()+()
AL 1276 STL ()
GG 1261 OAK ()+()
SC 1166 BOS ()+()
NYY: Wang (13-5, 3.84) & Ponson (4-5, 5.82)
@
BOS: JJonson (3-11, 6.26) & Lester (6-2, 4.09)
OAK: Blanton (13-9, 4.53) & Loaiza (6-7, 5.97)
@
KAN: Hudson (5-4, 6.39) & DeLaRosa (3-3, 8.24)
ARI: EGonzalz (3-4, 4.98) @SDG
STL: Marquis (12-11, 5.71) @CHC PL JL JG TM DM CC GG SC
C 'belli 'belli Fasano 'belli Buck Melhuse Fasano (Coste)
1B Youk' Youk' Giambi Youk' Youk' Phillips Youk' Youk'
2B Cano Cano Ellis Ellis Cano Cano Ellis Loretta
3B Teahen Teahen Chavez A-Rod Chavez Lowell Teahen Lowell
SS Jeter Berroa Jeter Jeter Jeter Jeter Jeter Jeter
LF Swisher Manny WilyMo Manny Manny WilyMo WilyMo Melky
CF DeJesus Crisp Damon Gathr' Damon Crisp Damon Crisp
RF Kielty Shealy Shealy Kapler Kielty Abreu Shealy (LScott)
DH Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz CWilson Ortiz Ortiz (Stairs)
PS (ARI) OAK OAK KAN OAK OAK OAK BOS
PL - Jeter, Swisher, DeJesus, Kielty, ARI
JL - Everyone
JG - Everyone
TM - Mirabelli, Youkilis, Ellis, A-Rod, Gathright, Kapler, Ortiz, KAN
DM - Buck, Cano, Chavez, Manny, Damon, Kielty, CWilson, OAK
CC - Melhuse, Phillips, Cano, Lowell, WilyMo, Crisp, Abreu, Ortiz
GG - FAsano, Youkilis, Ellis, Teahen, WilyMo, Damon, Shealy, Ortiz, OAK
SC - Coste, Loretta, Lowell, Melky, Crisp, Scott, Stairs, BOS
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/18/06 04:15 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
"That" *cough* was me making a mistake and forgetting to change my PS to Oakland.....
I saw your roster, and figured you did that on purpose.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/19/06 06:25 AM
TM had the right picks last night.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/19/06 12:08 PM
Good thing for me Oakland didn't sweep and allow 5 runs or something in the two games.
But (stupidly) I figured that if the Oakland PS had a good day I wanted to benefit from it somehow, so I (stupidly) wasted a start on Blanton, which was not in my original Yahoo plan.
Had I taken the Oak PS in this game as I had originally intended to, I never would have taken Blanton in the Yahoo game.
These games suck -- I may not play next year.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/19/06 12:34 PM
Friday Scores & Saturday's Probables
JL^ 1573 Oak (05) 82 1655 Oak Zito 12-8 3.83
PL 1576 Ari (-11) 56 1632 Min Radke 12-8 4.43
TM^ 1458 KaC (47) 120 1578 LAD Maddux 10-11 4.20
JG 1459 Oak (05) 74 1533 Oak
DM 1434 Oak (05) 88 1522 Oak
CC 1360 Oak (05) 64 1424 SaF Hennessey 5-2 2.71
AL 1276 StL (20) 72 1348 StL Suppan 9-7 5.00
GG 1261 Oak (05) 86 1347 Oak
SC 1166 Bos (-57) 06 1172 Oak
-- Never had to figure out a three-letter abbreviation for Kansas City before
-- SC's -57 is possibly a Gangster BB record. I remember a doubleheader at Coors a few years ago when DB couldn't change his team or something and wound up with a DH PS that went for a big minus - maybe he'll remember how much.
To get a -57 in a
single game you need something like 8 IPs (+24) with 4 Ks (+5), while allowing 19 ERs (-57), 22 Hits (-22), and 7 BBs (-7).
Pretty tough to do that when we are - theoretically, anyway - picking from only the top SPs in baseball.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/20/06 09:41 PM
SaturdayJL 1655 OAK (25) 64 1719
PL 1632 MIN (20) 66 1698
TM 1578 LAD (17) 66 1644
JG 1533 OAK (25) 76 1609
DM 1522 OAK (25) 64 1586
CC 1424 SFG (-27) 33 1457
AL 1348 STL (03) 68 1416
GG 1347 OAK (25) 50 1397
SC 1172 OAK (25) 42 1214
JL 1719 MIN (20) 68+
PL 1698 MIN (20) 41+
TM 1644 MIN (20) 45+
JG 1609 MIN (20) 40+
DM 1586 HOU (29) 57+
CC 1457 TOR (23) 39+
AL 1416 STL (23) 47+
GG 1397 OAK (08) 18+
SC 1214 TOR (23) 38+
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/20/06 10:57 PM
Thanks, Gina! I don't think I'll be back into Commish Mode until tomorrow! I'll be lucky enough if I get my roster set tonight...!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/20/06 11:38 PM
Glad you all made it back okay - I'm sure I'm right to assume you had a great time?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/20/06 11:46 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Glad you all made it back okay - I'm sure I'm right to assume you had a great time? Wouldn't you if you were rooming with me
It was great Gina, TONS of fun.....AND I picked Willy on Friday night, don't know if anyone noticed that
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 01:08 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I picked Willy on Friday night, don't know if anyone noticed that Wanna elaborate a little more than that? :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 01:14 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
Wouldn't you if you were rooming with me Y'all were roomies, eh?
Hope there wasn't
too much fantasy talk going on. :p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 01:41 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]I picked Willy on Friday night, don't know if anyone noticed that Wanna elaborate a little more than that? :p
[/b][/quote]I hooked up my laptop, and accessed the "baseball challenge page" after spending an extensive amount of time choosing a pitching staff and THEN going through each position to check lefty vs. righty comparisons, career stats in the month of August, pitcher matchups, weather, personal lifes I was left with one pick to make. Willy Taveras, I saw his name, I checked the stats and I clicked add......enough elaborating?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 01:42 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]Wouldn't you if you were rooming with me Y'all were roomies, eh?
Hope there wasn't
too much fantasy talk going on. :p
[/b][/quote]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 05:46 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
after spending an extensive amount of time choosing a pitching staff and THEN going through each position to check lefty vs. righty comparisons, career stats in the month of August, pitcher matchups, weather, personal lifes I was left with one pick to make. Willy Taveras, I saw his name, I checked the stats and I clicked add......enough elaborating? Let me narrow that down to the
facts here:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I saw [Willy's] name, ... and I clicked add.
:p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 02:31 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I saw [Willy's] name, ... and I clicked add.
:p
Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 02:57 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]Wouldn't you if you were rooming with me Y'all were roomies, eh?
Hope there wasn't
too much fantasy talk going on. :p
[/b][/quote]That could have so many meanings.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 04:54 PM
Do we have some kind of unofficial rule about changing our teams on Monday morning before the new values come out? Before I'm acused of cheating, I think I may have changed mine too early this morning. I can correct it if necessary.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 05:17 PM
It hasn't come up this year, but has in the past - it was understood not to do it if you could help it. But don't worry about it, we never mentioned it this season... cheater. :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 05:48 PM
I can already see PL putting an asterik next to my name if I wind up winning. :rolleyes:
Edit: I corrected the situation. It only involved a couple of players.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 06:05 PM
Sunday
JL 1719 MIN (20) 76 1795
PL 1698 MIN (20) 44 1742
TM 1644 MIN (20) 56 1700
JG 1609 MIN (20) 47 1656
DM 1586 HOU (29) 57 1643
CC 1457 TOR (23) 39 1496
AL 1416 STL (23) 49 1465
GG 1397 OAK (08) 39 1436
SC 1214 TOR (23) 51 1265
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/21/06 06:10 PM
Monday
JL 1795 ATL (38) 49 1844
PL 1742 ATL (38) 53 1795
TM 1700 ATL (38) 73 1773
DM^ 1643 ATL (38) 54 1697
JG 1656 LAD (07) 15 1671
CC 1496 ATL (38) 86 1582
AL 1465 ATL (38) 47 1512
GG 1436 OAK (-10) 05 1441
SC 1265 ATL (38) 53 1318
ATL: Smoltz (10-6, 3.62) vs PIT
LAD: Billingsley (4-3, 3.16) @ SDG
OAK: Haren (11-9, 3.45) @ TOR
Maybe I was a little delirius still when I missed the ATL bandwagon...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/22/06 04:22 PM
Tuesday
JL 1844 ARI (-3) 21 1865
PL 1795 ATL (06) 29 1824
TM 1773 FLA (11) 26 1799
DM 1697 ATL (06) 41 1738
JG 1671 NYM (07) 38 1709
CC 1582 ATL (06) 51 1633
AL 1512 ARI (-3) 20 1532
GG 1441 OAK (03) 38 1479
SC 1318 ATL (06) 25 1343
ARI: Webb (13-5, 2.93) @ SFO
ATL: Villarreal (9-1, 4.13) vs PIT
FLA: JJohnson (11-6, 2.84) vs WAS
NYM: Maine (3-3, 2.68) vs STL
OAK: Halsey (5-5, 4.29) @ TOR
Great day for pitching, with +11 as the highest score...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/23/06 04:27 PM
Wednesday (official)
JL 1865 SFO (07) 59 1924
PL 1824 SFO (07) 58 1882
TM 1799 LAD (-8) 21 1820
DM 1738 SFO (07) 26 1764
JG 1709 SFO (07) 41 1750
CC 1633 LAD (-8) 15 1648
AL 1532 MIL (28) 59 1591
GG 1479 OAK (35) 75 1554
SC 1343 ATL (10) 24 1367
SFO: Schmidt (10-7, 3.03) vs ARI
LAD: Penny (13-6, 3.70) @ SDG
MIL: Sheets (3-5, 5.54) vs COL
OAK: Loaiza (6-7, 5.58) @ TOR
ATL: Hudson (10-10, 4.77) vs PIT
CC is ranked #137 Overall for Week after first 2 days with 137 pts
Edit: Sorry to jinx it! :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/23/06 11:51 PM
I must've cursed bullSchmidt by having him on my draft team... :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/24/06 03:45 PM
Thursday (official)
JL 1924 LAA (18) 54 1978 Gains a bit
PL 1882 LAA (18) 47 1929 Dye (17) helped a little bit
TM 1820 LAA (18) 41 1861 Too bad Munson isn't active :P
DM 1764 NYY (06) 39 1803 What'd I say about NYY?
JG^ 1750 CLE (17) 53 1803 Twins are back. P or C? ;)
CC 1648 PHI (-5) 11 1659 Hamels was -23 for me :/
AL 1591 CHC (25) 52 1643 Beats CC to a pulp H2H
GG 1554 DNP (--) 28 1582 Too busy with schoolwork?
SC 1367 DNP (--) 11 1378 Too busy with work?
LAA: Weaver (9-0, 1.95) vs BOS
NYY: Johnson (14-9, 4.98) @ SEA
CLE: Sabathia (8-8, 3.29) @ KC
PHI: Hamels (6-6, 4.40) @ CHC
(vs AL)CHC: Zambrano (13-5, 3.34) vs PHI
(vs CC)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/25/06 04:15 PM
Friday
JL 1978 STL (28) 46 2024
PL 1929 STL (28) 50 1979
TM 1861 BOS (02) 33 1894
JG^ 1803 STL (28) 54 1857
DM 1803 HOU (25) 46 1849
CC 1659 STL (28) 64 1723
AL 1643 BOS (02) 20 1663
GG 1582 OAK (26) 45 1627
SC 1378 ATL (-5) 07 1385
STL: Suppan (9-7, 5.03) vs CHC - I freakin' knew it! :rolleyes:
BOS: Schilling (14-5, 3.84) @ SEA
HOU: Clemens (5-4, 2.58) @ PIT
OAK: Zito (13-8, 3.76) @ TEX
ATL: James (6-3, 4.19) vs WAS
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/25/06 05:25 PM
WTF happened to Carpenter? :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/25/06 05:49 PM
No idea, but I saw a clue that he
might not pitch, but most other indicators said he was...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/26/06 02:19 AM
....Of course Suppan is throwing a shutout in the 8th inning.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/26/06 04:37 PM
Saturday
JL 2024 ATL (34) 54 2078
PL 1979 TOR (23) 51 2030
TM 1894 TOR (23) 65 1961
JG 1857 STL (30) 60 1918
DM 1849 TOR (23) 48 1899
CC 1723 TOR (23) 49 1772
AL 1663 TOR (23) 43 1707
GG 1627 OAK (21) 52 1679
SC 1385 ATL (34) 58 1443
ATL: Smoltz (11-6, 3.46) vs WAS
TOR: Halladay (16-3, 3.18) vs KC
STL: Carpenter (12-6, 3.05) vs CHC
OAK: Blanton (13-10, 4.47) @ TEX
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/27/06 04:35 PM
Sunday (official)
JL 2078 MIL (16) 68 2146
PL 2030 LAA (-14) 11 2041
TM 1961 NYM (PP) 29 1990
JG 1918 LAD (11) 46 1964
DM 1899 MIL (16) 56 1955
CC 1772 LAA (-14) 16 1788
AL 1707 TOR (13) 43 1750
GG 1679 OAK (17) 45 1724
SC 1443 ATL (07) 25 1468
MIL: Capuano (11-8, 3.55) @ FLA
LAA: Saunders (4-1, 3.06) vs NYY
NYM: Maine (3-3, 3.58) vs PHI
LAD: Billingsley (4-3, 3.07) @ ARI
TOR: Lilly (10-11, 4.64) vs KC
OAK: Haren (12-9, 3.79) @ TEX
ATL: Villarreal (9-1, 3.97) vs WAS
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/27/06 06:39 PM
Phillies @ Mets game rained out I'll take the zero and no worry
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/28/06 06:01 PM
Monday (official)
JL 2146 ARI (12) 38 2184
PL 2041 FLA (29) 48 2089
TM 1990 FLA (29) 40 2030
JG 1964 FLA (29) 56 2020
DM 1955 ARI (12) 33 1988
CC 1788 FLA (29) 49 1837
GG^ 1724 OAK (27) 33 1757
AL 1750 TOR (-6) 06 1756
SC 1468 NYM (22) 48 1516
ARI: Webb (13-5, 2.99) vs SDG (vs JG's Woody)
FLA: JJohnson (11-6, 2.90) vs MIL
TOR: Burnett (6-5, 4.27) @ CLE
OAK: Loaiza (7-7, 5.12) vs BOS
NYM: Maine (3-3, 3.58) vs PHI (Makeup Game)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/29/06 05:54 PM
Tuesday (official)
JL 2184 CHC (15) 53 2237
PL 2089 HOU (28) 80 2169
TM 2030 CHC (15) 47 2077
JG 2020 LAA (-2) 50 2070
DM 1988 CWS (-1) 16 2004
CC 1837 FLA (28) 32 1869
GG 1757 OAK (27) 37 1794
AL 1756 LAA (-2) 14 1770
SC 1516 NYM (10) 30 1546
CHC: Zambrano (14-5, 3.31) @ PIT
HOU: Oswalt (10-8, 3.23) vs MIL
LAA: Weaver (9-1, 1.92) @ SEA
CWS: Garcia (12-8, 4.99) vs TAM
FLA: Olsen (10-7, 4.42) @ STL
OAK: Saarloos (6-6, 4.66) vs BOS
NYM: Trachsel (13-5, 5.00) @ COL
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/30/06 07:13 AM
Wednesday - DET@NYY D/H
JL 2237 NYY (30)+(7) 70 2307
PL 2169 NYY (30)+(7) 77 2246
JG^ 2070 NYY (30)+(7) 74 2144
TM 2077 CWS (13) 45 2122
DM 2004 NYY (30)+(7) 61 2065
CC 1869 LAD (18) 53 1922
GG 1794 OAK (22) 57 1851
AL 1770 CWS (13) 41 1811
SC 1546 NYM (19) 40 1586
DET: Robertson (11-10, 4.10) & Ledezma (2-1, 2.08)
@
NYY: Wang (15-3, 3.81) & Wright (9-7, 4.72)
CWS: Garland (15-4, 4.47)
LAD: Maddux (11-11, 4.25)
OAK: Zito (14-8, 3.64)
NYM: Williams ( 3-3, 6.40)
JL PL TM JG DM CC
C Wilson (Napoli) Wilson Fasano Wilson (Kenji)
1B Giambi Casey Casey (Quinlan) Casey Casey
2B Cano Cano Cano Cano Cano Infante
3B A-Rod Inge A-Rod Inge A-Rod A-Rod
SS Jeter Jeter Jeter Jeter Neifi Jeter
LF (PWilson) Monroe Melky Monroe Monroe Melky
CF Damon Grander Grander Damon Damon Grander
RF (Shealy) Abreu Ordonez Abreu Abreu Ordonez
DH Thames CWilson Bernie Bernie Bernie Thames
PS NYY NYY (CWS) NYY NYY (LAD)
JL - Wilson, Giambi, A-Rod, (PWilson), Damon, (Shealy), Thames
PL - (Napoli), Casey, Inge, Monroe, Granderson, Abreu, CWilson, NYY
TM - Wilson, Casey, A-Rod, Melky, Ganderson, Ordonez, Bernie, (CWS)
JG - Fasano, (Quinlan), Inge, Jeter, Monroe, Damon, Abreu, NYY
DM - Wilson, Casey, A-Rod, Neifi, Monroe, Damon, Abreu, Bernie, NYY
CC - (Kenji), Infante, Jeter, Melky, Granderson, Ordonez, Thames, (LAD)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 06:33 AM
Anyone near the bottom in the standings, who doesn't plan on actively playing any more -- those who don't change their rosters at all -- feel free to let us know so we (okay, so *I*) don't have to spend my time doing your math... :p
Posted By: SC
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 08:11 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Anyone near the bottom in the standings, who doesn't plan on actively playing any more -- those who don't change their rosters at all -- feel free to let us know so we (okay, so *[b]I*) don't have to spend my time doing your math... :p [/b]
Why don't you just write,
"Dear SC, you're wasting my time". :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 08:31 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Anyone near the bottom in the standings, who doesn't plan on actively playing any more -- those who don't change their rosters at all -- feel free to let us know so we (okay, so *[b]I*) don't have to spend my time doing your math... :p [/b]
Relax...it's taking me a few days to get back in the swing of things.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 10:08 AM
Wednesday Scores & Thursday's Probables
JL 2237 NYY (30)+(7) 71 2308 Min Santana 15-5 3.01
PL 2169 NYY (30)+(7) 79 2248 Min
JG^ 2070 NYY (30)+(7) 75 2145 Min
TM 2077 CWS (13) 46 2123 Min
DM 2004 NYY (30)+(7) 61 2065 Min
CC 1869 LAD (18) 54 1923 Min
GG 1794 OAK (22) 58 1852 Oak (DNP)
AL 1770 CWS (13) 42 1812 Hou Pettitte 12-13 4.56
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 03:37 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Relax...it's taking me a few days to get back in the swing of things.
No excuse! :p
I was more trying to elicit some type of reaction and guilt from the others
Originally posted by SC:
Why don't you just write, "Dear SC, you're wasting my time".
I said
near the bottom, not
at the bottom... :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 08:26 PM
Geoff, don't worry about doing my scores anymore.
I'm sorry for leaving it like that without saying anything...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 09:20 PM
I didn't mean to sound so mean -- I was just very tired last night!
If you start playing again, just let us know!
I was gonna leave SC in, tho, cuz he was kinda playing... But in any event, looks like AL is last now! :p
Thursday (unofficial)
JL 2308 Min (37) 79 2387
PL 2248 Min (37) 77 2325
JG 2145 Min (37) 66 2211
TM 2123 Min (37) 57 2180
DM 2065 Min (37) 48 2113
CC 1923 Min (37) 52 1975
AL 1812 Hou (25) 49 1861
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 08/31/06 11:52 PM
No, no, I understand, and it was my fault - I kept thinking I'd set it, but I should've said something sooner.
It's changed from a passion to just a "job," which tells me I've lost interest. Also, I'm really trying to keep focused on schoolwork this year.
I wonder if my grades will go up when the baseball season ends?
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/01/06 02:41 AM
if people keep quitting I might drop all the way to the bottom. please stop!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/01/06 12:59 PM
Finishing last in a league with only JL, myself, JG, and DM is nothing to be ashamed of.
At the very least you have my compliments, anyway.
You've proven yourself to be a player to be reckoned with.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/01/06 02:07 PM
Thursday Scores & Friday's Probables
JL 2308 Min (37) 80 2388 StL Carpenter 12-6 2.96
PL 2248 Min (37) 79 2327 StL
JG 2145 Min (37) 68 2213 StL
TM 2123 Min (37) 58 2181 Bal Bedard 12-9 3.92
DM 2065 Min (37) 49 2114 CWS Contreras 11-6 4.25
CC 1923 Min (37) 52 1975 StL
AL 1812 Hou (25) 49 1861 Hou Rodriguez 9-8 5.46 (DNP)
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/01/06 04:07 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Finishing last in a league with only JL, myself, JG, and DM is nothing to be ashamed of.
At the very least you have my compliments, anyway.
You've proven yourself to be a player to be reckoned with.
thanks for the support comish
you'll have your point proven after Bedard throws a shutout tonight!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/01/06 04:41 PM
Support is one thing, TM. I've always said that your pro-rated scores were pretty much as good as anyone's and that if you could just break the "missed days habit" you'd be right up there with the contenders, but let's not get carried away here.
A shutout for Bedard? I don't think so....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/02/06 06:45 AM
Friday (official)
JL 2388 StL (34) 70 2458
PL 2327 StL (34) 59 2386
JG 2213 StL (34) 64 2277
TM 2181 Bal (08) 20 2201
DM 2114 CWS (18) 33 2147
CC 1975 StL (34) 53 2028
AL 1861 Hou (00) 15 1876
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/02/06 07:13 AM
Saturday (official)
JL 2458 ARI (04)+(7) 54 2512
PL 2386 ARI (04)+(7) 87 2473
JG 2277 OAK (06) 58 2335
TM 2201 ARI (04)+(7) 28 2029 Good thing you ignore DHs... :/
DM 2147 ARI (04)+(7) 46 2193
CC 2028 DET (03) 52 2080
AL 1876 OAK (06) 37 1913
ARI: Batista (10-5, 4.46) & Hernandez (10-11, 5.27) @
WAS: Traber (3-3, 7.14) & Bergmann (0-1, 6.64)
ATL: Villarreal (9-1, 4.17) & Davies (2-3, 6.12) @
PHI: Lieber (6-9, 5.09) & Mathieson (1-4, 7.23)
OAK: Haren (12-10, 3.80) vs BAL
DET: Verlander (15-7, 3.42) vs LAA JL PL JG TM DM CC
C Snyder Pratt Pratt Snyder Pratt (Closser)
1B NJohnson NJohnson LaRoche Howard Howard Conine
2B Hudson Utley Hudson (Kendrick) Giles Utley
3B Tracy Zimmermn Zimmermn (Blalock) Nunez CJones
SS Lopez Renteria Renteria Lopez Renteria Rollins
LF Soriano Soriano Burrell Dellucci Soriano Dellucci
CF Byrnes Victorino Victorino Byrd AJones Rowand*
RF (Shealy) Kearns Francoeur (Ordonez) Quentin Francoeur
DH (Sweeney) Easley (Hillenbrd)(Hafner) (CWilson) (Huber)
PS ARI ARI (OAK) ARI ARI (DET)Everyone, basically.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/02/06 09:02 AM
I didn't think they'd be playing today in Philly, at least not two. We shall see.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/02/06 06:14 PM
I was just about to congratulate myself for being #97 Overall for the week, but then noticed PL was
#5 . :p (JL is #107)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/02/06 07:41 PM
Hey, thanks guy! And congratulations to
you for being #9.
I rarely look at the Weekly Leaderboard unless I think I'm having a great week, and this one didn't seem like anything particularly special, so thanks for pointing it out.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/02/06 08:18 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Hey, thanks guy! And congratulations to you for being #9.
Okay, here you go: congrats! :p
But alas, I'm #97, not #9...
I only noticed you were up there when I noticed you had more points for the week, so I checked. (And good ol' ESPN ( :rolleyes: ) is still linking to the Segment 1 Leaderboard...)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/03/06 03:54 PM
I just noticed my congratulating you for being #9 - alas, a typo
But congrats for being #97 - and even #107 - is certainly called for, given that tens of thousands of people play this game.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/03/06 04:29 PM
Sunday
JL 2512 SEA ()
PL 2473 PHI ()+()
JG 2335 SFO ()
TM 2029 ARI ()
DM 2193 SDG ()
CC 2080 DET ()
AL 1913 SFO ()
Apparently they called the ATL/PHI D/H quite late... I guess I'm done for the season now.
PHI: Moyer (7-13, 4.50) & Myers (10-6, 4.24) vs ATL
SEA: Hernandz (11-12,4.54) @ TAM
SFO: Schmidt (10-8, 3.37) @ CHC
ARI: Webb (14-5, 3.02) @ WAS
SDG: Wells (2-3, 4.98) vs CIN
DET: Ledezma (2-1, 2.27) vs LAA
JL PL JG TM AL
C McCann
1B Howard Howard Howard
2B Utley LaRoche
3B CJones
SS Rollins
LF Langerhs Dellucci
CF AJones Victorino
RF Francoeur Francoeur
DH (JLopez)
PS PHI
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/03/06 04:46 PM
There's still hope. PL did pick the Phillies' pitching staff.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/03/06 04:54 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
But congrats for being #97 - and even #107 - is certainly called for, given that tens of thousands of people play this game.
PL is still #5 going into Sunday; and with the probability that not too many noticed the D/H, and if Philly does well, then he could finish the week even higher.
I'm down to #176 and JL is down to #222...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:24 AM
Sunday (unofficial)
PL^ 2473 PHI (-2)+(34) 81 2554
JL 2512 SEA (-1) 31 2543
JG 2335 SFO (12) 31 2366
TM 2029 ARI (08) 37 2066
DM 2193 SDG (25) 39 2232
CC 2080 DET (20) 37 2117
AL 1913 SFO (12) 46 1959
Apparently they called the ATL/PHI D/H quite late... I guess I'm done for the season now.
PHI: Moyer (7-13, 4.50) & Myers (10-6, 4.24) vs ATL
SEA: Hernandz (11-12,4.54) @ TAM
SFO: Schmidt (10-8, 3.37) @ CHC
ARI: Webb (14-5, 3.02) @ WAS
SDG: Wells (2-3, 4.98) vs CIN
DET: Ledezma (2-1, 2.27) vs LAA
JL PL JG TM AL
C McCann
1B Howard Howard Howard
2B Utley LaRoche
3B CJones
SS Rollins
LF Langerhs Dellucci
CF AJones Victorino
RF Francoeur Francoeur
DH (JLopez)
PS PHI
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:28 AM
plaw might be up to #1 by the end of today
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:29 AM
He already is
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:33 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
He already is
Oh
Should have checked before saying it.
Congratulations Plaw, I think this is a first for this board for this game right?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:48 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I think this is a first for this board for this game right?
What's a first, that Plaw's in 1st??
He used to be in 1st or 2nd all the time, a long
long time ago... :p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:53 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]I think this is a first for this board for this game right?
What's a first, that Plaw's in 1st??
He used to be in 1st or 2nd all the time, a long
long time ago... :p [/b][/quote]1st or 2nd overall like out of all 10,000 players?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 01:16 AM
OH! We won't know that until tomorrow... I thought you meant 1st in our group - which he did tonight, passing JL.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 01:18 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
OH! We won't know that until tomorrow... I thought you meant 1st in our group - which he did tonight, passing JL.
OH no, him being first in our group wouldn't surprise me lol, I figured with him being in 5th for the week and being one of the apparent few who knew there was a d/h today..
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 02:25 AM
1- Dumb luck....I'm still trying to figure out where that second Atl-Phil DH came from
There was one DH on the schedule which they played on Saturday, right?
So where did this one from tonight come from? What game is it making up?
I only found out about it because I happened to be reading the ESPN Message Board rather late last night, and they were talking about it there, and people weren't sure if there was gonna be a doubleheader or not even then.
2- How do you get onto the ESPN page which shows the standings for this week. I don't remember or can't figure out how to do it.
Anyway, JG, you'll be good enough to post a screen shot of the final standings for the week for posterity, won't you? I doubt if I'll finish first for the week, but I oughta be somewhere in the Top Ten.
Remember, my high finish represents the quality of play in our entire group, not just my own.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 02:28 AM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 03:28 AM
Yeah, but how do you get there?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 03:34 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Yeah, but how do you get there? Go to the frontpage of your team and on top it says "leaders". Is that what you mean?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 05:37 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
So where did this one from tonight come from? What game is it making up?
They were rained out Friday, but they already had Saturday's D/H scheduled. The info said "TBA" -- and as of Saturday night I didn't notice it for Sunday (who the fuck would have D/Hs 2 days in a row??), and then by the time I did notice it, it was after the 3AM deadline.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 05:39 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Yeah, but how do you get there? I said before Good ol' ESPN ( :rolleyes: ) screwed it up...
In the URL DMC and I posted,
periodID=20 ... the # is the Week we're in, minus one (they start w/ 0 rather than 1)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 06:13 AM
Sunday (unofficial)
PL^ 2473 PHI (-2)+(34) 81 2554
JL 2512 SEA (-1) 31 2543
JG 2335 SFO (12) 31 2366
TM 2029 ARI (08) 37 2066
DM 2193 SDG (25) 39 2232
CC 2080 DET (20) 37 2117
AL 1913 SFO (12) 46 1959
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 11:54 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
In the URL DMC and I posted, [b]periodID=20 ... the # is the Week we're in, minus one (they start w/ 0 rather than 1) [/b]
Thanks - Got it.
Stoopid way to have to figure out the weekly leaders in the second half, though.
The guy in first this week has a 64 point lead now, but I guess I have a shot at second - I'm in 4th place now, only 7 points out.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:13 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
So where did this one from tonight come from? What game is it making up?
Originally posted by J Geoff:
They were rained out Friday, but they already had Saturday's D/H scheduled. The info said "TBA" -- and as of Saturday night I didn't notice it for Sunday (who the fuck would have D/Hs 2 days in a row??), and then by the time I did notice it, it was after the 3AM deadline. Ahhh...
Well, score that one as "Pure Dumb Luck for PL".
I never even noticed the Friday night rainout.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 12:19 PM
Sunday's Official Scores & Monday's Probables
PL^ 2473 Phi (35) 85 2558 ChC Zambrano 14-5 3.33
JL 2512 Sea (-1) 35 2547 ChC
JG 2335 SaF (12) 32 2367 Cle Sabathia 10-8 3.22
TM 2229 Ari (08) 38 2267 LAA Weaver 9-2 2.33
DM 2193 SDG (25) 39 2232 ChC
CC 2080 DET (20) 37 2117 Cle
AL 1913 SFO (12) 46 1959 NYY Wang 16-5 3.66
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 03:16 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
The guy in first this week has a 64 point lead now, but I guess I have a shot at second - I'm in 4th place now, only 7 points out.
Oh, wait.....
Stoopid me.....
:rolleyes:
I'm thinking today is Sunday, and I still have one more day to move up.
But today is Monday, isn't it? So the week is over
Well, a 4th place finish for the week is nothing to be ashamed of.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 03:33 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
1st or 2nd overall like out of all 10,000 players?
Just for the record, I figure
very roughly that there are about 45,000 players
registered for the game.
How many of them are actually playing, I have no idea (But it's probably a lot fewer than we may think - I'd guess no more than half, or around 20-25,000 maybe)
But still..... How about a screen shot for posterity, JG?
(Pleeeeeeeeeze
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/04/06 04:11 PM
Here ya go... very close to 3rd, too!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/05/06 05:24 AM
Monday (official)
PL 2558 ChC (07) 54 2612
JL 2547 ChC (07) 35 2582
JG 2367 Cle (12) 31 2398
TM 2267 LAA (30) 52 2319
DM 2232 ChC (07) 36 2268
CC 2117 Cle (12) 37 2154
AL 1959 NYY (13) 37 1996
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/05/06 11:48 AM
Chalk up another day for me forgetting to change my team, and on a day when Santana is pitching no less. :rolleyes:
As soon as I have a little bit of a lead, I fall right back to the rest of the pack.
And to top it all off, I have to root, root, root for Santana..... because of the Yahoo Game.
Can I get a miracle game from Mateo today (whoever he is)?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/05/06 03:52 PM
Tuesday (unofficial)
JL^2582 MIN (40) 57 2639
PL 2612 CHC (09) 14 2626 DNP
JG 2398 MIN (40) 62 2460
TM 2319 MIN (40) 61 2380
DM 2268 MIN (40) 55 2323
CC 2154 MIN (40) 55 2209
AL 1996 NYY (04) 08 2004 DNP - why do you even bother?
MIN: Santana (16-5, 2.95) @TB
CHC: Mateo (1-2, 4.15) vs PIT
NYY: Mussina (13-5, 3.61) @KC
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/05/06 10:20 PM
If the Minny PS only gets a mid-twenties and Mateo and the Cubbies can hold on for an 8 or 10 maybe, I could possibly hold on to first place.
If Santana comes up with a monster though, at least I'll get some Yahoo benefit from it.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/05/06 11:24 PM
BTW, JG.....I had intended to post the official scores amd probables this morning, but I was too POed at myself to do it.
Then I had to go out for a few hours, so I never got around to it.
Anyway, thanks for the screen shot. I don't know why I don't know how to do that....
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/05/06 11:31 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
If the Minny PS only gets a mid-twenties and Mateo and the Cubbies can hold on for an 8 or 10 maybe, I could possibly hold on to first place.
If Santana comes up with a monster though, at least I'll get some Yahoo benefit from it.
The Met rainout isn't going to help your cause either.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/06/06 12:05 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
If Santana comes up with a monster though, at least I'll get some Yahoo benefit from it.
I'd rather have Santana get
crushed. :p But since I said that, he won't. He'll probably throw a no-hitter for your Yahoo team -- to go with Hallady's great start. Looks like you'll be in 2nd after tonight, once Lackey loses. :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/06/06 05:40 AM
Okay,
some of that worked I guess.... Obviously I didn't realize you were 200 pts ahead of me...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/06/06 07:23 AM
Wednesday (official)
JL 2639 STL ()
PL 2626 ATL (06)+()
JG 2460 NYM (28)+()
TM 2383 NYM (28)+()
DM 2323 ATL (06)+()
CC 2209 STL ()
AL 2004 MIN () <-- you're leaving the list soon.
ATL: Smoltz (12-7, 3.60) & Williams (4-3, 6.10) @
NYM: Davies (2-4, 7.20) & Perez (2-11, 7.29)
I thought it was Villareal and Glavine... :/
STL: Carpenter (13-6, 2.87) @ WAS
MIN: Silva (8-13, 6.86) @ TAM
JL PL JG TM DM
C LoDuca LoDuca Pratt McCann Difelice
1B LaRoche Delgado Delgado LaRoche Delgado
2B Woodward Orr Orr Woodward Orr
3B Wright Wright Wright Wright Wright
SS Reyes Reyes Reyes Reyes Renteria
LF Valentin Floyd? Valentin (Markakis) Diaz
CF AJones AJones AJones AJones AJones
RF (Shealy) Francoeur Francoeur Milledge? Francouer
DH (Shea) Franco? (White) Franco? (JRivera)
PS (STL) ATL NYM NYM ATL
Everyone, basically...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/06/06 11:53 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]Lineups PL
C (Buck)
1B (Jacobs)
2B (Barfield)
3B CJones
SS Renteria
LF (Monroe)
CF AJones
RF (Alou)
DH (Shea)
PS (CHC)
Everyone, basically... and PL forgot that he forgot, apparently... :p [/b]
Whaddaya trying to do? Kill me with a heart attack?
'Cuz when I saw the lineup above that you posted for me, I almost had one.
I don't know what you were looking at, but here's my lineup for today:
C LoDuca
1B Delgado
2B Orr
3B Wright
SS Reyes
LF Floyd
CF Jones
RF Francoeur
DH Franco
PS Atlanta
And why the Question Mark (?) up there for TM's pick of Franco as DH? (Only asking 'cuz he's my DH also)
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/06/06 03:45 PM
Since I have no chance of ctching anyone I think I am going to quit playing and place my attention on trying to win a FF game
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/06/06 05:40 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I don't know what you were looking at, but here's my lineup for today:
Obviously I was looking at your lineup for yesterday by mistake. Sorry.
Originally posted by plawrence:
And why the Question Mark (?) up there for TM's pick of Franco as DH? (Only asking 'cuz he's my DH also)
I figured there'd be much better options than someone who might not even get an at-bat during either game. Especially if you already have Orr in there (as do I). But, allow me to question Cliff Floyd while I'm at it. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/06/06 10:48 PM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/07/06 12:18 AM
Wednesday (official)
JL 2639 STL (01) 23 2662
PL 2626 ATL (06)+(-7) 25 2651
JG 2460 NYM (28)+(32) 90 2550
TM 2383 NYM (28)+(32) 85 2468
DM 2323 ATL (06)+(-7) 11 2334
CC 2209 STL (01) 15 2224
AL 2004 MIN (06) 20 2024
ATL: Smoltz (12-7, 3.60) & Williams (4-3, 6.10) @
NYM: Davies (2-4, 7.20) & Perez (2-11, 7.29)
I thought it was Villareal and Glavine... :/
STL: Carpenter (13-6, 2.87) @ WAS
MIN: Silva (8-13, 6.86) @ TAM
JL PL JG TM DM
C LoDuca LoDuca Pratt McCann Difelice
1B LaRoche Delgado Delgado LaRoche Delgado
2B Woodward Orr Orr Woodward Orr
3B Wright Wright Wright Wright Wright
SS Reyes Reyes Reyes Reyes Renteria
LF Valentin Floyd? Valentin (Markakis) Diaz
CF AJones AJones AJones AJones AJones
RF (Shealy) Francoeur Francoeur Milledge? Francouer
DH (Shea) Franco? (White) Franco? (JRivera)
PS (STL) ATL NYM NYM ATL
Everyone, basically...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/07/06 07:14 AM
Thursday
PL^2651 DNP (--) 19 2670 Not bad for a DNP
JL 2662 FLA (-33) -23 2639 Pathetic, actually :P
JG 2550 FLA (-33) 08 2558 Coste (12) helps salvage a bit
TM 2468 FLA (-33) -9 2459 Granderson (8), Carroll (7) help
DM 2334 STL (23) 44 2378 He's all Wright (6)
CC 2224 NYM (30) 55 2279 Is she Willingham? (11)
AL 2024 PIT (12) 44 2068 He is (11) + Howard (10); why quit?
FLA: JJohnson (12-6, 2.99) vs PHI
STL: Weaver (2-4, 5.34) @ ARI
NYM: Glavine (12-6, 4.13) vs LAD
PIT: Chacon? (6-5, 6.75) @ CHC (NO better options?)
Posted By: Don Alessandrio
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/07/06 02:26 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PIT: Chacon? (6-5, 6.75) @ CHC (NO better options?)
Picked a pitcher to go against the worst offense
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/08/06 01:38 AM
PL doesn't play, and he's going to take over 1st place. :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/08/06 05:30 AM
What's a -33 amongst friends? :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/08/06 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Don Alessandrio:
Picked a pitcher to go against the worst offense
After tonight, you look like a genius.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/08/06 07:01 AM
Amazing.....I should try that again
Finally....something good happened as a result of one of my screwups. I guess the fantasy baseball gods were smiling on me.
Looking over yesterday's pitchers I can't say with certainty who I would've taken, but Florida with Johnson looked like the best choice.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/08/06 02:38 PM
Thursday's Official Scores & Friday's Probables
PL^2651 DNP (--) 19 2670 SaF Cain 11-9 4.11
JL 2662 FLA (-33) -22 2640 Hou Oswalt 11-8 3.12
JG 2550 FLA (-33) 09 2559 SaF
TM 2468 FLA (-33) -7 2461 Tor Burnett 7-6 4.22
DM 2334 STL (23) 44 2378 SaD Peavy 8-13 4.32
CC 2224 NYM (30) 55 2279 Fla Olson 12-7 4.04
AL 2024 PIT (12) 45 2069 Hou
Posted By: plawrence
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/08/06 03:16 PM
Total Points Standings 1st Half 2nd Half Total
JL 4583 2640 7223
PL 4521 2670 7191
TM 4548 2461 7009
JG 4368 2559 6927
CC 3975 2279 6254
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/09/06 06:24 AM
Friday (official)
PL 2670 SaF (33) 64 2734
JL 2640 Hou (28) 54 2694
JG 2559 SaF (33) 56 2615
TM 2461 Tor (08) 25 2486
DM 2378 SaD (05) 42 2420
CC 2279 Fla (16) 50 2329
AL 2069 Hou (28) 55 2124
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/09/06 02:10 PM
Saturday (official)
JL^2694 ARI (36) 78 2772
PL 2734 HOU (16) 34 2768
JG 2615 HOU (16) 40 2655
TM 2486 TOR (24) 61 2547
DM 2420 STL (10) 36 2456
CC 2329 HOU (16) 36 2365
AL 2124 SFO (26) 53 2177
HOU: Hirsh (2-3, 6.84) @ MIL (not Clemens :rolleyes: )
ARI: Webb (14-6, 3.14) vs STL
(vs DMC)STL: Marquis (14-13, 5.73) @ ARI
(vs JL)TOR: Chacin (7-3, 5.34) @ LAA
SFO: Schmidt (11-8, 3.39) vs SDG
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/10/06 05:26 PM
Sunday (official)
JL 2772 MIN (33) 52 2824
PL 2768 MIN (33) 39 2807
JG 2655 LAA (22) 59 2714
TM 2547 MIN (33) 60 2607
DM 2456 TOR (04) 28 2484
CC 2365 MIN (33) 60 2425
AL 2177 LAA (22) 61 2238
MIN: Santana (17-5, 2.84) vs DET
LAA: Weaver (10-2, 2.16) vs TOR
(vs DM)TOR: Halladay (16-5, 3.22) @ LAA
(vs JG, AL)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/11/06 04:49 PM
Monday (official)
JL 2824 STL (30) 60 2884
PL 2807 STL (30) 47 2854
JG 2714 STL (30) 52 2766
TM 2607 STL (30) 61 2668
DM 2484 STL (30) 43 2527
CC 2425 STL (30) 61 2486
AL 2238 ATL (-6) 16 2254
STL: Carpenter (13-6, 2.93) vs HOU*
ATL: Smoltz (12-8, 3.63) vs CHC
*Uh oh... Gina can't just be mad at me this time!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/11/06 08:31 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
*Uh oh... Gina can't just be mad at me this time!
So everyone else does it, and you feel like you have to?
Couldn't you have stood up for me? I thought you were better than that.
Fantasy > Friends
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/11/06 08:37 PM
Err uhh... Well, I actually did it for your benefit!! Yeah, that's it! By my picking against HOU I'm actually jinxing STL, so HOU will win!! See?? I was thinking about you all along!
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/11/06 08:46 PM
Alrighty...you're taking that route, then?
I'll talk to you after the game. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/12/06 02:14 AM
Anybody have Cody Ross? Three HRs and seven RBIs!
And did you StL takers realize that Pettitte didn't even end up starting for us? I didn't find out until right before the game that he rolled his ankle over the weekend, and we replaced him with Buchholz fresh from the minors.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/12/06 06:15 AM
See, I was so concentrating on a win for Pettitte that I didn't realize Buchholz was pitching... sorry.
As for Cody Ross, no one in their right mind would have picked him with his stats going into tonight. Only 0.1% of everyone playing the ESPN game had him, which is more than I'd've expected. But I bet many more will tomorrow!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/12/06 07:04 AM
Tuesday (official)
JL 2884 CLE (02) 30 2914
PL 2854 CLE (02) 23 2877
JG 2766 LAD (-8) 05 2771
TM 2668 CLE (02) 30 2698
CC^2486 SEA (25) 62 2548
DM 2527 MIL (--) 11 2538
AL 2254 ATL (--) 18 2272
CLE: Sowers (7-3, 3.35) vs KC
LAD: Lowe (14-8, 3.64) @ CHC
MIL: Capuano (11-10, 3.49) @ PIT
SEA: Meche (9-8, 4.31) vs TOR
ATL: Davies (2-5, 7.56) vs PHI
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/12/06 09:05 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
See, I was so concentrating on a win for Pettitte that I didn't realize Buchholz was pitching...
You are full of it. :p
Carpenter's obviously tough, but we haven't scored a single run in 20 innings.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/12/06 09:27 PM
No Cody for you, but, you
do have Wily -- is that like a short Willy?
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/12/06 10:21 PM
Nobody could ever replace my Willy - especially not a Wily. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 02:03 AM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Anyway, if you're so "concentrated" on Andy, then I expect a quality outing from him tonight.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 05:20 AM
Hey - I tried! But it's all Lidge's and Poo-hole's fault!!! :rolleyes:
But why did Andy leave after only 2.2 IP??
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 07:09 AM
Wow. PL missed 2 doubleheaders.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 07:18 AM
Wednesday
JL 2914 MIL (-3)+()
PL 2877 FLA ()
JG 2771 PIT (26)+()
TM 2698 MIL (-3)+()
CC 2548 ATL ()+()
DM 2538 MIL (-3)+()
AL 2272 MIL (-3)+()
(JG vs everyone else??
)
MIL: Capuano (11-10, 3.49) & Sheets (4-6 , 4.38) @
PIT: Chacon (1-2 , 6.33) & Snell (12-10, 4.88)
PHI: Wolf (3-0 , 4.97) & Lieber (7-9 , 4.99) @
ATL: Davies (2-5 , 7.56) & Hudson (12-10, 4.85)
FLA: Olsen (12-8 , 4.01) vs NYM JL PL JG TM DM CC
C Miller Miller Pratt (Mirabelli) Rivera Pena
1B Howard LaRoche Howard Howard Fielder Howard
2B Utley (Barfield) Prado Utley Graffan. Castillo
3B Sanchez (Ensberg) Sanchez Aybar Sanchez Nunez
SS Hall (Peralta) Rollins Hall Hall Hall
LF Bay Bay Bay Dellucci Bay Bay
CF Duffy (Sizemore) Victorino AJones Clark Victorino
RF (Shealy) (Gibbons) Nady Francoeur Mench Francoeur
DH (Cintron)(Luna) Cirillo (Helms) (Thome) Cirillo
PS MIL (FLA) PIT MIL MIL ATL
Everyone's picking differently all of a sudden...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 07:38 AM
I won't question your choice of the Pirates' PS, because that would guarantee back to back shutouts by them. :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
I won't question your choice of the Pirates' PS
You won't have to, after tonight. :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 08:09 AM
That's it. Go ahead and jinx yourself.
:p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 08:17 AM
My "Curse" is over: Howard and A-Rod are proof of that! :p (But then again... *I* am the one that curses careers, apparently, so... with that comment, apprently those two are done... as are the 'rats...
)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 07:40 PM
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 07:50 PM
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 08:31 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
But why did Andy leave after only 2.2 IP?? That's why I posted the article...
Pettitte out early with left elbow strain
Southpaw day-to-day with pain in historically injured region
Apparently, it's the same injury that he had surgery for two years ago, which is what's so scary.
Pujols/Lidge added insult to injury. Too many heartbreakers for me to handle.
Today looks good, so far...(don't want to jinx it.)
Edit: Whew.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 09:38 PM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 09:39 PM
WOW! Sheets has thrown 6 innings of NO-HIT ball!! You guys are kicking my ass in the second game - I knew you would, especially with a NO-HITTER!!! :p
Edit: Oops, my bad.
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 10:07 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Yeah! My not rooting for or against the 'stros worked!!
Thanks - I owe you big time.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 10:35 PM
Wednesday (official)
JL 2914 MIL (-3)+(37) 71 2985
PL 2877 FLA (07) 36 2913
JG 2771 PIT (26)+(19) 89 2860
TM 2698 MIL (-3)+(37) 66 2764
DM^2538 MIL (-3)+(37) 72 2610
CC 2548 ATL (10)+(-2) 45 2593
AL 2272 MIL (-3)+(37) 54 2326
MIL: Capuano (11-10, 3.49) & Sheets (4-6 , 4.38) @
PIT: Chacon (1-2 , 6.33) & Snell (12-10, 4.88)
PHI: Wolf (3-0 , 4.97) & Lieber (7-9 , 4.99) @
ATL: Davies (2-5 , 7.56) & Hudson (12-10, 4.85)
FLA: Olsen (12-8 , 4.01) vs NYM JL PL JG TM DM CC
C Miller Miller Pratt (Mirabelli) Rivera Pena
1B Howard LaRoche Howard Howard Fielder Howard
2B Utley (Barfield) Prado Utley Graffan. Castillo
3B Sanchez (Ensberg) Sanchez Aybar Sanchez Nunez
SS Hall (Peralta) Rollins Hall Hall Hall
LF Bay Bay Bay Dellucci Bay Bay
CF Duffy (Sizemore) Victorino AJones Clark Victorino
RF (Shealy) (Gibbons) Nady Francoeur Mench Francoeur
DH (Cintron)(Luna) Cirillo (Helms) (Thome) Cirillo
PS MIL (FLA) PIT MIL MIL ATL
Everyone's picking differently all of a sudden...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/13/06 10:36 PM
Note: After the first 2 days of this week, Crabby is #40 Overall.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 07:29 AM
Thursday (official)
JL 2985 SFO (37) 72 3057
PL 2913 DNP (--) 07 2920
JG 2860 NYY (22) 51 2911
TM 2764 SFO (37) 55 2819
CC^2593 ATL (26) 59 2652
DM 2610 BOS (08) 29 2639
AL 2326 DNP (--) 05 2331
SFO: Cain (12-9, 3.94) vs COL (Not @COL at least)
NYY: Wang (17-5, 3.60) vs TAM (Going against my own rule)
ATL: James (9-3, 3.57) vs PHI (Howard's due...)
BOS: DiNardo (1-2, 5.32) @ BAL
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 07:37 AM
I guess I'm one of the few people believing today's weather forecasts.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 07:42 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
I guess I'm one of the few people believing today's weather forecasts. I don't believe ANY weather forcasts unless it says 100% :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 07:49 AM
:p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 04:53 PM
See? Only 90% chance by game time. :p
It doesn't look that threatening to me, but we'll see...
What stinks about the weather, tho, is I got tix behind a wet home plate for tonight -- Game 3 of the South Atlantic League Championship series (Lakewood BlueClaws won the first two games, so this could be it!)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 05:02 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
CC 2593 BOS ()
BOS: DiNardo (1-2, 5.32) @ BAL (Going against your team?)
I don't know what you're looking at but I have Atlanta. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 05:29 PM
Sorry, I must've swapped you and DMC since he got on top of you...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 06:32 PM
I'm suppoesed to go to the San Gennaro feast tonight, but it looks like that's out.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/14/06 06:45 PM
I thought Schilling was pitching.............lol
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 04:48 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I thought Schilling was pitching.............lol
So did I... until like, 3 DAYS AGO :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 05:03 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
What stinks about the weather, tho, is I got tix behind a wet home plate for tonight -- Game 3 of the South Atlantic League Championship series (Lakewood BlueClaws won the first two games, so this could be it!)
The rain held off all night! But unfortunately, the Claws didn't win it tonight. At least I don't think so, since we left after the 6th and they were down like 9-1.
But, going back tomorrow!!
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 05:06 AM
We didn't go to the feast, but we went and found a good Italian restaurant on Staten Island.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 05:08 AM
What's it called? I wonder if it's the same place we've gone to a couple times...? :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 05:21 AM
Trattoria Romana on Hylan Blvd.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 05:34 AM
If it's good, I'm sure we'll try it eventually -- but we go to
Rocky Toto\'s -- give that a shot next time, it's pretty good!
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 05:50 AM
I don't think there's a bad Italian Restaraunt on Staten Island.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/15/06 04:51 PM
Friday (official)
JL 3057 MIN (15) 31 3088
PL 2920 FLA (17) 40 2960
JG 2911 MIN (15) 42 2953
TM 2819 MIN (15) 28 2847
CC 2652 CIN (32) 54 2706
DM 2639 BOS (--) 08 2647
AL 2331 MIL (28) 42 2373
MIN: Santana (18-5, 2.75) @ CLE
FLA: Willis (10-11, 3.75) @ ATL
CIN: Arroyo (13-9, 3.29) @ CHC
BOS: Beckett (14-10, 5.09) @ NYY
MIL: Ohka (4-5, 4.83) @ WAS
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/16/06 05:05 PM
Saturday (official)
JL 3088 NYY (04)+(12) 50 3138
JG^2953 NYY (04)+(12) 40 2993 Fuck. He'd want me to continue, tho... :(
PL 2960 FLA (13) 30 2990
TM 2847 NYY (04)+(12) 45 2892
CC 2706 CLE (05) 28 2734
DM 2647 BOS (21)+(-9) 41 2688
AL 2373 MIL (-6) 30 2403
BOS: Beckett (14-10, 5.09) & Tavarez (3-4 , 4.74)
NYY: Wang (17-5 , 3.60) & Johnson (17-10, 4.84)
FLA: Sanchez ( 8-2, 2.96) @ ATL
CLE: Sabathia (11-9, 3.24) vs MIN
MIL: Bush (11-10, 4.44) @ WAS
JL JG TM CC
C Fasano Fasano Fasano (Schneider)
1B (DLee) Giambi Giambi Phillips
2B Cano (CGomez) Cano Cairo
3B A-Rod A-Rod (Ozuna) Lowell
SS Jeter Jeter Jeter Jeter
LF WilyMo Matsui Matsui MCabrera
CF (Hart) Guiel Damon Damon
RF (Shealy) Abreu Abreu Abreu
DH Ortiz CWilson (Tatis) (Betemit)
PS NYY NYY NYY (CLE)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/16/06 08:51 PM
I'm having problems again w/ all the ESPN game pages... anyone else?
:rolleyes:
Posted By: Tony Mosrite
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/16/06 09:06 PM
yes me too.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/16/06 09:11 PM
Thanks.
They better *$%@&ing fix that shit before football picks are due!!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/16/06 10:20 PM
I was having the same problems trying to pull up baseball. It kept telling me something about a script problem. Good thing I changed my roster this morning. I was just hoping it wasn't my piece of shit computer that was the problem.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/17/06 05:44 PM
Sunday (official)
JL 3138 NYY (01)+(08) 30 3168
JG 2993 NYY (01)+(08) 33 3026
PL 2990 FLA (00) 16 3006
TM 2892 NYY (01)+(08) 30 2922
CC 2734 SEA (15) 55 2789
DM 2688 BOS (19)+(18) 70 2758
AL 2403 MIL (13) 66 2469
BOS: Snyder (4-4, 6.54) & Jarvis (0-1, 5.40)
NYY: Wright (10-7, 4.60) & Mussina (14-6, 3.59)
SEA: Meche (10-8, 4.28) @ KC
FLA: Nolasco (11-9, 4.71) @ ATL
MIL: Davis (10-10, 4.95) @ WAS
JL JG TM
C Fasano Fasano Fasano
1B (DLee) Giambi Phillips
2B Cano (CGomez) Loretta
3B A-Rod A-Rod A-Rod
SS Jeter Jeter Jeter
LF WilyMo Matsui WilyMo
CF (Hart) Guiel Damon
RF (Shealy) Abreu Abreu
DH Ortiz CWilson Lopez
PS NYY NYY NYY
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/18/06 04:23 PM
Monday (official)
JL 3168 HOU (23) 52 3220
JG 3026 HOU (23) 51 3077
PL 3006 FLA (12) 40 3046
TM 2922 SDG (-21) -10 2912 Wrong way. :P
CC 2789 LAD (-09) 15 2804
DM 2758 SDG (-21) 05 2763
AL 2469 MIL (15) 23 2492 You done (not) playing yet?
HOU: Oswalt (13-8, 3.06) vs CIN
SDG: Peavy (9-14, 4.17) @ LAD
(vs CC)LAD: Penny (16-8, 4.04) vs SDG
(vs TM & DM)FLA: Moehler (7-8, 6.12) @ NYM
MIL: Capuano (11-11, 3.66) vs STL
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/18/06 04:28 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
But unfortunately, the Claws didn't win it tonight...
I never did go back for Game 4 because it was rainy, but, the BlueClaws won! Congrats to the 2006 South Atlantic League
Champions !!
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/18/06 05:20 PM
Are those my boys?
If so, congrats!!!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/18/06 06:00 PM
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/19/06 11:21 AM
I guess we can all be greatful we didn't have San Francisco pitching.
-55. OUCH!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/19/06 05:24 PM
Tuesday (official)
JL 3220 NYM (25) 67 3287
JG 3077 SFO (-21) 13 3090 Maybe @COL wasn't good idea :/
PL 3046 FLA (10) 29 3075
TM 2912 CIN (15) 46 2958
CC 2804 ATL (-12) 16 2820 James f-ed me in other game :/
DM 2763 SDG (20) 44 2807
AL 2492 MIL (-12) 06 2498 You done yet?
NYM: Glavine (13-6, 3.99) vs FLA
SFO: Cain (13-9, 3.75) @ COL
FLA: Olsen (12-8, 3.98) vs NYM
CIN: Harang (13-11, 3.88) @ HOU
ATL: James (10-3, 3.33) @ WAS
SDG: Hensley (9-11, 3.83) vs ARI
MIL: Sheets (5-6, 4.08) vs STL
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/20/06 05:17 PM
Wednesday (official)
JL 3287 LAD (05) 22 3309
JG 3090 FLA (16) 44 3134
PL 3075 FLA (16) 31 3106
TM 2958 LAD (05) 33 2991
CC 2820 CIN (-5) 16 2836
DM 2807 SDG (-8) 19 2826
AL 2498 CWS (01) 31 2529
LAD: Maddux (13-13, 4.22) vs PIT
FLA: Willis (11-11, 3.80) @ NYM
CIN: Arroyo (14-9, 3.17) @ HOU
SDG: Wells (2-4, 4.71) vs ARI
CWS: Garland (17-5, 4.30) vs DET
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/21/06 05:29 PM
Thursday (official)
JL 3309 MIN (05) 12 3321
JG 3134 MIN (05) 28 3162
PL 3106 FLA (27) 44 3150
TM 2991 LAD (23) 33 3024
DM^2826 ATL (21) 33 2859
CC 2836 MIN (05) 18 2854
AL 2529 CWS (06) 19 2548
MIN: Santana (18-5, 2.77) @ BOS
FLA: Sanchez (8-3, 2.90) @ NYM
LAD: Billingsley (5-4, 3.32) vs PIT
ATL: Smoltz (13-9, 3.71) @ COL
CWS: Vazquez (11-9, 4.70) vs SEA
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/22/06 05:23 PM
Friday (official)
JL 3321 MIN (-11) 11 3332
JG 3162 CHC (07) 42 3204
PL 3150 FLA (03) 25 3175
TM 3024 SDG (29) 56 3080
CC^2854 LAA (17) 35 2889
DM 2859 ATL (-02) 24 2883
AL 2548 CWS (-13) 05 2553
MIN: Silva (10-13, 5.88) @ BAL
CHC: Hill (6-6, 4.12) @ CIN
FLA: Nolasco (11-9, 4.56) @ PHI
SDG: Young (10-5, 3.63) vs PIT
ATL: Hudson (12-11, 4.83) @ COL
LAA: Weaver (11-2, 2.15) @ OAK
CWS: Contreras (13-8, 4.08) vs SEA
Only 3 of us (JG, TM, CC) played today?
The grueling season is almost over -- just 10 more days!
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/22/06 09:06 PM
I just plain forgot.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/22/06 09:37 PM
I changed a few position players around, nothing major. It's not like I'm going to win
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/23/06 04:13 PM
Saturday
JL 3332 SDG ()
JG 3204 BAL ()
PL 3175 FLA ()
TM 3080 SDG ()
CC 2889 PIT ()
DM 2883 ATL ()
SDG: Peavy (9-14, 4.25) vs PIT
(vs CC)BAL: Bedard (15-9, 3.62) vs MIN
FLA: Moehler (7-9, 6.09) @ PHI
PIT: Duke (10-13, 4.49) @ SDG
(vs JL, TM)ATL: Davies? (3-5, 7.18) @ COL
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/23/06 04:14 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I changed a few position players around, nothing major.
You like ATL PS @ COL so much you defaulted to that?? :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/23/06 04:57 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
JG 3204 BAL ()
Are you high?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/29/06 10:35 AM
I really cannot believe we lost a weeks' worth of posts.... I'm so fucking mad and sad...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/29/06 04:27 PM
Thursday (official)
JL 3523 HOU (33) 55 3578
JG 3494 HOU (33) 53 3547
TM 3301 SDG (14) 27 3328
PL 3262 FLA (09) 33 3295
CC 3044 LAA (39) 63 3107
DM 3005 STL (-9) 20 3025
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/29/06 04:31 PM
Friday (official)
JL 3578 HOU (15) 40 3618
JG 3547 HOU (15) 55 3602 Wow, 20 pts from Burrell
TM 3328 PHI (21) 31 3359
PL 3295 FLA (-35) -26 3269 Welcome back
CC 3107 HOU (15) 37 3144
DM 3025 STL (13) 28 3053
HOU: Clemens (7-5, 2.35) @ ATL
PHI: Moyer (10-14, 4.36) @ FLA
(vs PL)FLA: Moehler (7-10, 6.22) vs PHI
(vs TM)STL: Weaver (7-14, 5.79) vs MIL
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 09/30/06 05:28 PM
Saturday (official)
JL 3618 NYM (33) 38 3656
JG 3602 CIN (09) 15 3617 Needs 40+ more to win now... :/
TM 3359 CIN (09) 28 3387
PL 3269 FLA (10) 28 3297
CC 3144 CIN (09) 31 3175
DM 3053 STL (20) 28 3081
NYM: Glavine (14-7, 3.94) @ WAS
CIN: Arroyo (14-10, 3.27) @ PIT
FLA: Olsen (12-9, 3.97) vs PHI
STL: Suppan (12-7, 4.18) vs MIL
Close race.
:p
Going into Saturday I'm
#25 on the Weekly Leaderboard with 296 pts. Somehow I gained 101 pts on JL
this week and pulled to within 16 pts for 1st!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/01/06 12:42 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Going into Saturday I'm #25 on the Weekly Leaderboard with 296 pts. Somehow I gained 101 pts on JL this week and pulled to within 16 pts for 1st! Is it
really necessary for me to have one of my worst offensive days of the year after typing that?? :rolleyes:
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/01/06 04:03 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]Going into Saturday I'm #25 on the Weekly Leaderboard with 296 pts. Somehow I gained 101 pts on JL this week and pulled to within 16 pts for 1st! Is it
really necessary for me to have one of my worst offensive days of the year after typing that?? :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]If it makes you feel any better, you scored 1 more point than me. :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/01/06 06:18 AM
Originally posted by Just Lou:
If it makes you feel any better, you scored 1 more point than me. :rolleyes:
You must not be talking about this game...
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/01/06 09:56 AM
At the time, I only had 5 points offense, and I think all my players were done. I know I did well pitching.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/01/06 07:26 PM
Sunday (FINAL)
JL 3656 STL (13) 35 3691
JG 3617 ARI (-1) 21 3638
TM 3387 CIN (15) 29 3416
PL 3297 FLA (33) 43 3340
CC 3175 ARI (-1) 10 3185
DM 3081 STL (13) 37 3118
STL: Reyes (5-7, 4.68) vs MIL (not Carpenter)
ARI: Webb (16-7, 2.88) vs SDG
CIN: Belisle (2-0, 4.24) @ PIT
FLA: Willis (12-12, 3.89) vs PHI
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/02/06 02:09 PM
FINAL RESULTS 1st 2nd
Half Half TOTAL
JL 4583 3691 8280 Wins 2nd Half and Overall
JG 4368 3638 8006 Usual crash-and-burn at the end
TM 4548 3416 7964 First Half WAS a fluke :P
PL 4521 3340 7858 Woulda been a contenda
CC 3975 3185 7161 Did better than the Orioles at least
GG 3717 2624 6338 School got in the way :/
DB 4678 ---- 4678 Wins 1st Half then gets hitched
DC 3881 ---- 3881 Should stick w/ hockey maybe ;)
DM 634 3118 3752 PETERed out at the end
SC 3642 ---- 3642 Came in 2nd -- from the bottom*
AL 243 2861 3104 Too many DNPs to make a dent*Actually had pts in 2nd Half but left the group. Coulda been 3rd from last. :p
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/03/06 08:49 PM
Congrats, Lou!!!
You the man!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/03/06 08:51 PM
This was my favorite game too, I hate to see it go :rolleyes:
Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/03/06 09:05 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
Basketball and football are REAL sports, baseball?
Baseball? Baseball is the ONLY
real sport.
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/03/06 09:36 PM
Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl:
Congrats, Lou!!!
You the man! Thanks.
I dedicate my victory to Plaw. Get well my friend.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/03/06 09:40 PM
Congrats JL on your 2nd half and [cough]overall[/cough] victory!!
Congrats on your Yahoo baseball victory too!
So what's better - getting engaged or winning both baseball games? :p
Posted By: Just Lou
Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) - 10/03/06 09:44 PM
Hmmm. That's a tough one. I'll have to think about it.
