The ***OFFICIAL*** PS3 Thread

Since we've got about 5 threads, I wonder if Geoff would mind stickying this one, and possibly merging it with the others? We can post news and updates regarding Sony's new console here.

In awesome news, it has been confirmed that ALL PS3's will ship with the 60 GB hard drive, which Ken Kutaragi said would be vital and required to playing games.

Please feel free to keep this thread bumped by posting relevant news, questions, and updates!

Nice topic mate, Cant wait till its released, Jus thinking what colour to get judging by the pictures.

From what I hear, it looks like they are only going to launch it in silver...I was hoping for the black one. But I'll take any color as long as it works, eh?

Yeah, The silver should be good anyways

I'm more concerned about the controller...especially since Sony is involved in a lawsuit which may prevent them from having vibration in their controllers anymore...what do you think of the "wing" design?

My oppinion of that controller...Crap.

If you could use the ps2 controller that would be great. What you think bout the ps3 controller

The lawsuit won't prevent Sony from having the vibration in their controllers, per se. They're basically being sued because some company claims that Sony stole their technology. Basically, Sony will have to come up with their own vibration technology.

As for the new "bat-a-rang" controller, I don't like it so much. The Dual Shock 2 is hands down the greatest gaming controller, IMO. I think they shoulda stuck with that design, with maybe a few minor adjustments.

Sony May Be Redesigning PlayStation 3 Controller

From GamePro.com

Top Sony executive Phil Harrison today suggested that Sony might be revising its PlayStation 3 controller design.

At an exclusive Q&A session at the Game Developers' Conference today, Phil Harrison was asked whether the recent lawsuit over Sony's DualShock controller -- which Sony lost -- would have any effect on the PS3 controller design.

Phil Harrison replied that it wouldn't, but explained in a follow-up question that "the [PlayStation 3] controller will be revealed at E3."

During the keynote earlier in the day, a slide briefly showed a timeline for various PS3 developer kit milestones; one of these dates was listed for April, and read "prototype PS3 controller."

The subject of the PS3 controller has been a touchy subject with Sony as of late. Aside from its first appearance at E3 2005 almost one year ago, that boomerang-shaped controller has not reappeared. Given wide outcry among gamers toward that design, speculation has ensued that Sony was preparing to redesign that controller to appease outraged fans. Sony has neither confirmed nor denied that speculation, but we'll keep you posted.
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Well here's hoping!

I dunno. I'm thinking that since I couldn't get my hands on the 360 I should just wait and preorder the PS3.

What do you guys think? I've always been an XBOX guy, but I'm hearing good things about the PS3.

Use the logic of X-Box fanboys in this case, DA.

1.) PS3 comes out later. It will have superior graphics.
2.) Its storage medium will be 5x greater than that of the X-Box 360.
3.) It is more powerful.
4.) Unlike the X-Box 360, the PS3 will be fully backwards compatible with the entire library of PS2 and PS1 games. The 360 only plays games that Microsoft has configured to be backwards compatible.
5.) Sony is coming out with its own version of online gaming ala X-Box live.
6.) Better exclusives (i.e. SOCOM, Gran Turismo) versus HALO. :p

Is there any word on the new GTA for PS3?

There was a rumor floating about that it might be a launch game, but I'm not too sure.

Rockstar "Supports" PS3; No GTA Title Announced

Amazing if they could get that price...I sure do hope so.

Plus, I'm hoping that the list is somewhat incorrect (though I'll buy the Sonic game at launch) because I'm hoping the SCEA's Formula One game will also be a launch title. Either way, without the region restrictions anymore, even if its a PAL release, you could always import.

From IGN.com

Great...just fucking great! I was banking on Sony releasing a core system package like Microsoft did with the 360. Instead...they do one better by offering a 20GB HD bundle or a 60 GB HD bundle...with the problem being that the cheapest bundle is $500!!!

I was only willing to pay $399 for the PS3. Looks like I'll be waiting for the first price drop...

From IGN.com

That's GREAT news! I wasn't too keen on the whole "bat-a-rang" design of the PS3 controller.

I was unable to find any pictures of the controller.

Bad news for Nintendo...I'm afraid. The whole "motion sensitive" controller thing seemed to be Nintendo's big selling point for the Wii. Now Sony has pretty much taken ALL the wind out of their sales. You can bet that Sony's decision to make the DualShock 3 motion sensitive is gonna but a MAJOR dent in Nintendo's sales. Could this be the final year for Nintendo as a hardware developer?

So will quite a few people...I don't know what they are smoking, but I have to say that even with some great games, they are going to lose market share to Microsoft with those prices...

I mean, if they were trying to appeal to the "casual" gamer (who makes up most of Sony's market), who do they think is going to be willing to shell out $599 AND buy games at $50-$60 a piece?

Better get a shovel ready. They seem to be digging themselves a hole. I wouldn't by this at launch, especially with this price - because they are inevitably going to have to drop the price.

Sony is fucking up.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705887p1.html

From what I'm reading, all is not lost for those of us who can't purchase the $600 60 GB version. Read below:

That's from PS3Land, but I've been digging around and it looks to be true. At least the hard drive will be upgradeble, but I'm still disappointed that its missing the memory slots.

If I sell my 360 with the games I should have enough to get PS3 at launch. Also GTA4 is launching about a month before the PS3 is.

Sony is the biggest copy cat in history. Now they have stolen, after all the other things they stole, the concept of the Wii controller.

Not really.

Even as a huge Nintendo (and admittedly, Sony) supporter, I disagree. Though clearly they are trying to make up for the loss of the Dualshock rumble technology with a *gimmicky* tilt sensor, the tilt isn't anything new, the early '90's saw the NeoGeo and even the Game Boy Color had this feature. To say they are "copying" Nintendo is a rather weak argument, especially since Sony is keeping the basic design of their megasuccessful DualShock (sans rumble) and adding new features.

The Wii controller will completely change the way people game. The PS3 controller is still bound by the traditional conventions of the gamepad. Saying that Sony "stole" the Wii concept is egregious since a.) the PS3 controller looks nothing like the Wiimote b.) the PS3 controller doesn't have the functionality of the Wiimote and c.) the PS3 controller uses technology that has been used by other companies since the early 90's, while the Wiimote uses pioneering game technology.

Myeah, I'd expected this reponse.
Maybe I should have made myself more clear: what I don't like is that Sony suddenly moves to a controller that has these kind of functions (altough limited). To me it's too obvious that they have got the idea of using a move sensor from Nintendo.

But Sony can do what they want, I'm not gonna buy their console, so what they do doesn't really interest me.

Your exposition is irrelevant - as I've said before, tilt has been around even before Nintendo (who copied it from NeoGeo?) and a comparison between the Wiimote and the PS3 pad (or the 360's pad) is extraneous since they are so fundamentally different.

Certainly Sony had to come up with something to counter the fact that they lost the rights to DualShock, so is it really surprising they've unvailed this tilt? They probably weren't even planning on it until after they lost the lawsuit.

Again, as I said before, the allegations of Sony copying Nintendo (in this particular case) are pretty weak, since the tilt function has been done before (and not exclusively by Nintendo) and the Wiimote is designed for a full range of motion, while the PS3 controller only recieves 6 tilt inputs.

I'm just having this idea that it's too coincidental that they wanted to have this a few months after the Wii was presented. I know motion sensoring was there before the Wii, and the new PS3 isn't so well developed in it as the Wii is. But still, if the Wii didn't have this function, I think the PS3 wouldn't have it too.
So I'm not saying they copied the Wii, but it does feel like this. Why do they have to follow? Now it looks like they can't come up with something new themselves.

Oh, no doubt they gleaned the idea from the Big N in the sense that Nintendo is using the mo-sen, and PS3 had to do something to replace the lost DualShock (which, as I think most gamers would agree, I'd rather have the rumble under a different name than a lame tilt feature).

You're not?

:p

Not necessarily. The motion sensing still unilaterally is Nintendo's thing, at least for this generation. Sony, yes, has shot themselves in the foot with arrogance and stupidity (making fun of Microsoft for releasing two versions of the 360 when they will do the exact same thing with the PS3, actually worse since the lame PS3 won't be fully upgradeble) but that's not to say the Cell architecture and all the other innards of the PS3 aren't hella cool and unique.

You're not?

:p
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Let me explain.

At first, I thought they stole it. Then I read what you said, so I changed my opinion. That opinion is that they didn't steal it, but that they were stupid and kinda rip-offed Nintendo's controller.


Which doesn't take away that they did copy many things in the past.

How diplomatic.

The video game industry is like that though. I wouldn't necessarily label Sony as unique in this "crime," however.

As always...

No, Sony is not the only one doing it, but since they and Nintendo are the only ones left that had a major role in the market for the last 12 years, it's quite normal that Sony copied the most of all, or at least, who's copying gets the most attention.

IGN made a top-10 recently, from the 10 most original things in the videogame market. Most of them were from Nintendo, and most of them were used by Sony afterwards.


But anyways, I don't like and I don't hate the Playstation (1 till 3), nor the Xbox (1 till 360).

From 1UP.com

Quite a bold statement from Sony, I must say. The sad thing is, though...they're probably right.

Golden Axe is being brought back for PS3.

Holy shit, would you pay $80 for it though?

Uh, not the original Segaesque graphic version. With emulators, who in the right mind would buy older video games for new systems?

Oh, I'm just saying, since the PS3 is rumoured to carry $80 price tags on games because of the blu-ray discs.

From GameSpot.com

Why? Before you know it...gaming will only be for the wealthy...or kids with trust funds. This is absolutely ridiculous... :rolleyes:

Actually, before you know, Sony is going to be out of business. They are going to take a huge loss on the PS3, even if it sells well.

Look at it this way - for the price of the PS3, you could get an X-Box 360 AND the Nintendo Wii. That's nuts.

Sony are the ones that are trying to drive the prices up in this market, and I think (at least in my gamer-minded opinion since the old Atari/Nintendo wars) that Sony is going to alienate many casual gamers with those prices. I mean, c'mon - $600 for the system, another $50 for an extra controller, and $80 for each game? The market won't allow it.

Sony is in trouble...financially, and prospect-wise. They've taken a huge hit with the loss of the rumble lawsuit, and now are acting so arrogant they don't even realize the gaming public is uniting against them. Even most parents, I think, would balk at buying their kids a $600+ video game system for Christmas.

Go Nintendo! There system is going to be under $250, and games will sell for under $50. And, they have the new, innovative controller.

I still want a PS3, in the worst way...but I won't buy it until the prices go down. The problem is that the franchises I want (SOCOM, F1, Gran Turismo, etc.) are PS3 exclusive. Darn.

Anyone else think that Sony could go the way of the Dreamcast?

Strange.

Two years ago everybody was screaming Nintendo would end up like Sega.

Now the first voices appear that Sony might not be omni-potent and fail.

How things can change with a fresh mind...

Well, that's because Nintendo a.) didn't have strong 3rd party support and b.) sold the least amount of consoles despite repeat price drops.

Sony is already in financial trouble. If they take a huge loss on the PS3 (which they are expected to) and don't sell enough units to recoup, they could be in some serious hot water.

From IGN.com

Well...despite the fact that the PS3 is gonna cost an arm, a leg, and a few other body parts...this is still GREAT news...that is...if Sony and Immersion can come to terms with each other...

Sony won't come to terms because they screwed Immersion in the first place, and had to pay them when they lost the lawsuit.

Holy shit, I love how they say that vibration would interfere with the motion sensing capabilities of the controller, yet the Wiimote has vibration AND motion sensing far greater than the tilt sensors in the PS3 controller. :rolleyes:

Price Drop for Japanese PS3

From IGN.com

I'm gonna be pissed if Sony decided not to apply the price drop to the American PS3 as well.

I also read that PS3 games will most likely be in the $50-60 price range. Here's a link to that story.

Sony has already announced that this is a Japanese exclusive, and that the North American price points ("magic points," which basically means the most they can squeeze out of buyers before they refuse to buy it) are remaining the same, there will be no price drop in North America.

Sony desperately needs support in Japan, where it is likely going to fall behind the Wii and even the 360 because of its high price point.

I have always played on the playstation platforms. It is terrible how sony is trying to create a false demand for their PS3. I am seeing people pay as much as $2000 for a PS3 on ebay. These people need to get a life. No one should need one that badly. By February everyone will be able to get as many as they want at the retail price.

Sony is in deep (considerably deep) financial shit already (which is why their stock is shaky). If the PS3 doesn't sell like hotcakes - and with its current retail price, it won't be flying off the shelves (after the launch, of course) like the Wii and the X-Box 360 in 2007 - Sony is going to either have to cut its losses (erm...add to its losses?) and drop the PS3 down to a more affordable range or...risk complete ruin. They'll make a shitload on software. Why not offer the PS3 without the blu-ray and people will hop on that shit. I don't care if it comes with a free Talledega Nights DVD...who gives fuck? Make it cheaper so the average person doesn't have to sell an organ to get this thing. They're only making 400,000 units which means demand will be artificially inflated, but hell, that number is coming by the skin of their teeth, because they can't make them this cheap with the blu-ray and have had numerous delays already (Spring 2006 release, anyone else remember that old chestnut?).

For my holiday purchase, its going to be Wii - the nice price, and Twilight Princess sealed the deal. Sony will have to wait until their console loses its ridiculous pricetag before I even consider dropping my cold hard cash on that black and chrome behemoth.

Sony has taken a big financial hit developing the PS3, and they will continue taking a hit for the next year or so.

But Sony can still claim one thing that the other companies can't. They've got the largest market share in the videogame industry. Their market share is so substantial...they could end up coming in 3rd during this console war...and still be number 1.

That being said...Sony REALLY needs to pull out all the stops over the next 5-6 years if they even wanna stay in business. If PS3 fails (which it won't, but if), they're looking to go the way of Sega.

Speaking of PS3...I went to my local Wal-Mart at about 6 p.m last night...just to check out the insanity. There was a line stretched completely around the building. Wal-Mart wouldn't actually let them start lining up INSIDE the store until 9:30.

Hundreds of people...and my Wal-Mart only received 6 PS3s.

Check out these prices on ebaY !

After seeing how SONY has manipulated and handled the distribution of PS3, I hope that they do lose millions of dollars on this whole deal. They deserve to.

And to see the way that some have acted in trying to get a PS3, waiting on line for as much as five days, fighting and injuring others, etc., tells me that there are a lot of people who are really out of touch with reality .

The BEST quote that I heard was from a mother, who'd been on line for several days, saying : "Hurricane Katrina could come through here and I would NOT move from this line. My son NEEDS a PS3, HE CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT ONE and it would crush him if has to be without one, so I'm staying right here!"

Give me a f**king break.



Don Cardi

Seriously, people are retarded. Think about it - in 6 months, they won't be able to move the PS3's off the shelf, just like the X-Box 360, and its previous incarnations before that. If you don't get it at launch and aren't out to make a huge profit on Ebay, then just wait, or find a local shop that will hold one for you.

For example, I'm going to try and get the Wii this weekend, I've been calling my stores (ranging from Toys 'R Us to Best Buy to Wal-Mart) to find out who is doing what, how many they'll have, etc. I really didn't want to have to "camp" with other people at midnight tonight to get this, and luckily, none of these stores are having a Midnight opening, which means I can be a normal human being tomorrow morning - get up around 7:00 AM, have a cup of coffee, drive over to the stores around 8:00 AM when they open, and pick up a Wii. It's that simple. And if they run out? Boohoo. I'll wait for the next shipment, when they'll have 3 million units instead of tomorrows 1 million.

A bigger problem with the PS3 is I'm hearing a ton of glitches and problems, which is EXACTLY why I didn't go for the launch version. Sony has a history with the Playstation of having substandard reliability, but launch gear is always prone to such problems. Now, even more so, because Sony rushed these 400,000 units out of the factory so that they didn't lose any ground to Nintendo after losing so much to Microsoft already.

I'll still buy a PS3, but I'll be damned if I'll wait days in the rain in a tent, unable to leave the line, so I can play a video game. Get real.

My sentiments exactly, JJ.

I saw on the news earlier that a guy got shot over a PS3. Some kind of argument broke out between two "campers"...and one of them ended up getting shot over it. It's f*cking ridiculous!

Like you, JJ...I'm seriously considering picking up the Wii tomorrow, if not in a few weeks. A much lower price, the best 1st party games of any console, and the ability to play classics with the Virtual Console. It's almost a sin not to get one!

Considering how a much stand alone Blu-Ray player sells for, the PS3 is a real bargain at its retail price.

I got my Wii...I waited five hours for it, and was #6 in line...

AND IT IS AMAZING!!!

Come on, give us your fucking impressions man!

I'll put them in the Wii thread - but you'll have to wait a bit. I have 3 papers due on Monday, one of which is a 20 pager on post-45 foreign policy historiography (quite exciting, no doubt) which means I've only had a few hours to try out the Wii. I'll be sure to have a full review up soon.

I finally got my PS3.....but not alowwed to play it until Aprl 15th, my brothers birthday. Vey overpriced but my mum picked it up from here work so we got a discount :D. It came with Motorstorm and we will be getting Marvel Ulitiamte Alliance, Def Jam: Icon and The Godfather: The Don's edition. It's for both my brother and I but he's getting it for his birthday. Looks pretty cool and it's taunting me!

So I finally caved and bought a PS3 (my legal dispute with Wal-Mart was finally settled, and I got my settlement.) I bought a 32" LCD HDTV for about $600 (720p), and I got the PS3 (along with Resistance: Fall of Man). Since I work at Target, I get an employee discount, so I saved quite a bit.

I gotta say, it's a VERRRRRRY nice piece of technology. You can turn the system on and off with the PS3 Sixaxis controller, the Blu-Ray technology is icing, and the games look great.

It is still seriously overpriced, but you do get a lot of bang for your buck.

Resistance is a pretty fucking sweet game. I've never been huge on FPS's (I was never really good at them), but its great fun. I'll probably pick up a couple more games tomorrow (or download some demos from the PlayStation Store.)

I still plan on getting the Wii, as well.

I would love to see a Max Payne 3 come out.Max Payne 1 is a classic but 2 was a let down.But MP3 on PS3 would be really cool IMO.

The only two things that disappointed me about Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne (PS2 version) were:

A) The graphics sucked. Now usually this doesn't bother me as long as the game is good. But when the graphics actually affect the gameplay (i.e. glitches and slow down when there's too much going on), then it bothers me.

B) It was too short.

Other than that, I enjoyed both games immensely. But the PS2 versions were the worst of the bunch (and those were the versions I played.)

Max Payne 3 on the PS3 would indeed be awesome. But I think the days of 3rd party exclusives are coming to an end. If it's 3rd party, odds are it'll be on as many systems as possible. Which is better for the consumer, I think.

I want a PS3 quite a bit, but until Sony decided to stop committing harakiri and drops the price down to something reasonable (say, $299 or $399), I refuse to plunk down cash when I'm having fun with my Wii. The PS3 desperately needs a price drop and some "must-have" games, and soon.

If Blu-ray wins the format war, which it's looking more and more like it will, then the PS3 would be a bargain at it's current price. Right now, the basic Blu-ray player still costs about $500.

If you only want the PS3 for gaming...then sure, it's most definitely overpriced for the average consumer. But as Just Lou stated, for the ones that purchased it for ALL it's bells and whistles, $600 is a bargain.

But considering that the vast majority of Americans use DVD's, and not HD-TV or HD-DVD/Blu-Ray this early in the format war, it will not matter because that price is geared towards early adopters. By the time one of the formats "wins," the price of the players will have dropped considerably. See the transition from VHS to DVD's in the late 90's.

Apparently this was announced last week, but I just read it today. And now my heart is aching.

GTA IV Delayed Until Spring 2008

From 1up.com

Rockstar says it needs more time to finish the game.
By Sam Kennedy, 08/02/2007

This just in... Take-Two has announced that Grand Theft Auto IV is being delayed until Spring of 2008 due to "additional development time required to complete the title." Read on for further explanations that came with today's announcement as well as links to stories related to this news.

"With Grand Theft Auto IV, Rockstar is setting a new standard for next generation video games," stated Strauss Zelnick, Chairman of Take-Two. "Certain elements of development proved to be more time-intensive than expected, especially given the commitment for a simultaneous release on two very different platforms. We all recognize that perfecting the game is vital and I can assure everyone it will be worth the wait. We owe it to the game's millions of fans, to our dedicated development team, and to our shareholders to make sure that Grand Theft Auto IV is a groundbreaking gaming experience that takes maximum advantage of next generation technology."

"The new consoles are allowing us to create the Grand Theft Auto game we always dreamed about," added Sam Houser, Founder and Executive Producer of Rockstar Games. "Every aspect of the game and its design has been completely transformed. The game is huge and is pushing the hardware platforms to their absolute limits. The top engineers from Sony and Microsoft are working closely with the team in Edinburgh right now, helping us to fully leverage the power of both platforms. As always, our goal is to surpass even the wildest expectations of the game's fans, and to create the ultimate high definition video game experience."
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I guess it's a good thing that Rockstar wants to take more time to make sure the game is as great as possible...but it's still disappointing. I was looking forward to picking it up this October.

Rumors have been flying that it is because of the PS3 that the delay occurred. But on the plus side, there is also a HUGE rumor from a reliable source that Sony is making a move to acquire majority control of Rockstar, which means that GTA would be an exclusive Sony franchise once again...

I would definitely think that instead of pissing off Microsoft by having the versions of the game released when they are ready, R* is showing a bit of favoritism towards Sony by keeping GTA under lock and key until the PS3 version is ready.

The good news I've heard? Starting next year, EA is building all of their next-gen titles based off the PS3, rather than porting from the X-Box 360 and having delays for PS3 versions, which will be a nice change.

I think that is unlikely. Knowing Microsoft they would go all out price war if that happend. But if does happen, its good news as i like PS over Xbox

Actually, from what I've heard, its actually more reliable than what many are speculating.

Don't laugh - do you realize what a console seller GTA would be if it goes back to being a Sony exclusive? Seriously...

Its still hard to believe. But if GTA comes to sony exclusivly bye bye X Box.

Thank GOD Sony and Immersion finally came to an agreement on rumble support for the PS3.

My only concern is how long a full charge will last on the controller. A full charge WITHOUT rumble is usually good for 3 to 4 days (if you play regularly.) I can't imagine the toll that the rumble will take on the charge.

I brought MY PS3 (60GB), Its all good. I got a good deal IMO. 3 games (RFOM, Fifa 08 and F1) and an extra controller for £394.

Cant wait for MGS4, GT4, gta4, Resident evil 5, mafia 2 and Godfather part 2.

I think the PS3 was worth it, definitly with the up comming games.

PS - the controller is crap and feels realy cheap - the dualshock 3 controller is a must buy, which should come out in march.

BTW - I'm definitely looking into the "Buy 2 get 1 free" sale at Toys 'R Us this week, I'm thinking about picking up some new PS3 games.

Most likely, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, and either Splinter Cell: Double Agent or Ghost Recon 2.

That's not a bad deal at all. I might have to look into it.

I played a demo of Folklore...and it's pretty sweet. It's a drastically different take on the adventure/RPG formula. I can't vouch for the final game, but it may be worth a look.

Heavenly Sword is an AWESOME game...but you can beat it in a day.

I've already vouched for GRAW 2. DEFINITELY pick that one up.

I had considered SC: Double Agent for PS3...but I didn't get it because I have it for my PS2. I know the PS3 version is different (different missions), but its the same basic story, so it's hard for me to justify a $60 purchase.

I pre-ordered Assassin's Creed a week or so ago. I traded in a bunch of old PS2 games, and it paid for itself.

The game looks absolutely awesome. I can't wait for it to come out.