The most (un)realistic scene in the Sopranos.

What's, in your personal opinions, the most realistic and unrealistic scene/situation in the Sopranos?

I think most of the things in the Soprano's has happened in the past in real life.

I think a lot of things much worse has also happened.

Unrealistic things in it the only thing I can think of is Tony never hit his kid. Pretty sure that was not realistic.

Not all parents hit their children and i think Tony did once hit AJ, i think when he was suspended from school and he back chatted Tony..

Off the top off my heard i can't think of anything unrealistic as i think it's the nearest show to real life about OC that there is..

Couple of unrealistic things:

Tony and Pussy wouldn't have been anywhere near the Bevalaqua hit. Pussy would have went to jail immediately for his participation.

Chris being allowed to live as long as he did.

Tony did slap the taste out of AJ's mouth in one scene.

all kinds of scooters and bicycles and for what and to come home to this ?

sucks to be you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rElC_TOW7zw

Now I remember he did hit him.

When Tony ratted on Feech Lamana and violated his parole by sending him back to prison.

Patsy Parisi would have been picked up/intercepted most likely for trying to whack Tony right infront of the agents whilst drunk.

Tony using Patsy to threaten to kill Gloria Trillo

She wouldn't leave him alone, so he had to get the message across, sending Patsy the enforcer seems legit to me..

When I saw the later episode of that I thought Gloria was going to run over meadow when she left after making fun of Uncle junior singing. That scene was right after patsy had his talk with her.

I would say a few things. the amount of murders that occurred in this day and age seems pretty high. plus the amount Tony did himself as boss. plus you look how many guys got whacked out by the end. they killed so many of their own. its seems more realistic that more would b jailed for long sentences then murdered.

also the extortion by Patsy of the Starbucks type store. what monster in this day in she especially one as young as hi. would be surprised that they can't shakedown large chain businesses.

plus Christopher being so high up for a junkie. and the amount of public beatings that happened with no negative results. beansie being beat up in front of witnesses. construction guys. the waiter gets murdered and none of his coworkers describe witnesses all matching notorious monsters? johnny sac beating up a guy.
the two idiots beating up the giu in front of everyone at the stock company. the constructions workers on strike being beaten. in this day and age ?

also tony allowing people to guard his outside using an AK-47 and not worrying about FBI seeing an assault weapon on his property.

also just the level of power the soprano family wielded on dealing with new York.

The amount of what seemed like 20 car accidents Tony was involved in... attempted hit by black guys, chasing Phil (Phils car), Christophers death, with Adriana, in Melfis dream, passed out during panic attack....

I knew a guy in the 70's that used to wreck a car every summer.

We would take bets how long the car would last.

I've totaled 2..and been in the passenger seat for 2 more.. but that's over 30 plus years. ...lol

The whole marriage between Tony and Carmela just seemed too "normal". And their separation was far too amicable for my liking.

Numerous times they would have higher-ups in the family, such as Tony or Sil, carry out crimes or just being there when they happen when in reality they'd never risk being anywhere nearby.

Chris would have been whacked much, much earlier than he was for being a junkie and a liability.

Richie Aprile got away with way too much during his brief arc. No realistic mob boss would ever tolerate such amount of disrespect and disobedience that Richie showed Tony. He would have been whacked much earlier.

It's a TV show that wasn't directly based on any real-life happenings. Not surprising that they took some dramatic license on a few things.

I thought New Jersey blowing up New York's wire room and nearly killing Phil in the process (as retribution for Vito) was really a stretch. They acted as if it was just some fraternity prank and New York never directly retaliatated for that.

But unfortunately there was a lot of writing on the last season that was either too slow, too rushed, or just sloppy.

What about when the feds busted Johnny Sac? Tony saw the feds but they didnt see him run away? It must have been awkward when he went back to pick up his truck. I was always curious about the union jobs the guys have where they show up but dont work. Do they really sit around doing nothing all day? Or is that hollywood's spin on things? I'd be pissed if I was a worker and see these guys working on their tans.

They have work trailers for that.

+ 1.

No work jobs are a real thing. If I remember right, they were among the charges involving Genovese and Colombo control of the Operating Engineers Union back in 2003. More recently, there was an article in 2011 that talked about how no work jobs involving those same locals could add nearly $100 million extra to the Freedom Tower and surrounding projects.

Kenji mentioned them on another forum a few years back. It was back when he was working for the Colombos in NY. He said a lot of these guys or their relatives would have no work jobs at the WTC clean up sight. They'd show up late, take naps in the trailer, drive golf carts to get coffee, etc.

In real life even Tony is a boss don't will beat up Phil Leotardo,a loyal men that made 20 y without say nothing,in real life a decavalcante won't even dream to beat up a NY capo.

Unrealistic is the fact that Tony don't kill immediatly Vito because was a fag, or kill ralph cifaretto a good earner for a horse or made christopher that was a junkie and a bad earner.

This thread is connected with mine post on how the sopranos will end in real life

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=774074#Post774074

The rat taken out by tony in college, hire car, college records, etc would have put Tony in the middle of this then there is witnesses when he did it...and basically all the murders were good for TV, but what did Silvio say about DNA most others seemed sloppy

They're pissed too. But what the fuck can they do about it?

When Artie loses the 50 g's Tony lends him and Tony pretty much gives him a pass. Losing that amount of money in real life would have at least cost Artie part of his restaurant if not his life. I know they were friends but Tony was also friends with Davey Scatino and that didn't stop him from busting out his sporting goods store. Also this is my first post here on the site but have been following it for years.

Tony didn't lose the $50k though, he got Furio to collect it from the French guy in exchange for Artie clearing his tab at his restaurant which was a about $3-5k.

Maybe, but that was a great scene. Dan Grimaldi is a good actor. He can go from average professional middle class guy to dark gangster in a split second. Even played Patsy's twin brother Phily well, making him seem more daft and scruffy than Patsy.

Plus, Tony was going through a dark time then, dealing with Gloria's suicide. Remember when he says to Janice, "what am I, a toxic person?". He was heavily depressed, doubling down on the prozac and drinking Artie's new line of vodka all day, having weird dreams about Gloria. He was carrying the world on his shoulders and blaming himself for everything. So, Artie couldnt' have picked a better time to do this. The more benevolent Tony is more afraid of being a "toxic person" than he is showing weakness by letting Artie get away with losing 50k of his. Furio probably got most of it back, along with some of Jean-Philippe's belongings for score, but Tony has better things for Furio to do.

When Dave Scatino got in deep with the crew Tony was riding high as a newly minted boss. And, of course, in the same episode, "Bust Out", he's also facing an indictment over Bevelaqua, but that was nothing compared to the rock bottom he'd hit in "Everybody Hurts". Tony was a different person by then. I also think Tony regretted busting out Scatino. Those few updates Meadow gave him through the years on how fractured the Scatino family had become seemed to hit him in the gut. Tony was not boss material. He was a soldier by nature.

Speaking of unrealistic, how about a mobster with a ponytail.

I mean, really?

You both are correct but to me that is what makes it an unrealistic scenario. Most if not all real mobsters are sociopaths and don't give a damn what people outside the life think of them. Inside the life they want respect and they have to earn it through fear. It's just my opinion but in a real life situation friendship or no friendship Tony would have taken the restaurant or at least a portion of it. It would also be more profitable to take the restaurant than try to collect from the French guy who has nothing of value to Tony.

Was killing Adriana realistic?

I mean if you were to think about the mob when that was filmed 2005ish, would they kill a girlfriend of a member who might be snitching or would they kick her out of their circle?

I know they did back in the 60s or 70s with Mary Bali but considering how much the murders have declined since the 90s its interesting to know what they would do nowadays.

Christopher lasted a lot longer than he should have. The absolute last straw should have been after the hit on Adriana when Tony found him high at the Bada Bing watching the Three Amigos. Also it's a little unrealistic that he wasn't noticed by anyone being as high as he was at the street festival.

Everyone knew but they had no say. Tony was in denial of it. It was his delusion of grandeur that he was Don Corleone and Chris was Michael. Another reason Tony was not boss material.

Silvio always disliked him, then Paulie later on after he joined his crew and realized what a whiney little bitch Christopher was. Always playing the nephew card and not playing by the rules.

If Tony had died somehow early on in the show, Silvio would have taken Christopher out in a heartbeat.

When Furio was on his first assignment- taking out the massage parlour even smacking customers.... Especially shooting the owner in the knees at end whilst Tony sits outside smirking

"We pay u, we pay u, "

I guess today we live in much different times and they were American born Italians not off the boat Sicilians but I feel like in no scenario would Ralph Cifaretto, a wild-card soldier with a worse than usual rep would be allowed to date Rosalie Aprile within a year after Jackie dying and Ralph coming back from running point for the DiMeo Family in Miami fairly openly displaying a coke habit upon return. I know there are real life situations Like Linda Scarfo having an "arrangment" and Debbie Merlino allegedy sleeping around while Joey was inside but a boss direct with New York dying of cancer I feel deems Rosalie off limits but I understand the point was to progress Ralph's and Jackie Junior's storyline's by connecting them to Tony and Meadow through Rosalie. It works for the sake of TV, but in real life I think it would be a definite off limit situation.

Tony having done a semester at College, when the whole story was that he was always destined to follow his father into the life.

It just seems abit unrealistic to me, if Tony was looking to impress his old man, then i doubt the last thing he'd be doing was enrolling into college courses and focusing on higher education in the hopes of some legit career.

How he even had the grades to get into college either, would imply he was academically good at school previously, which again seems abit of a stretch.

The flashback scene with him and Tony B, he looks nothing like a budding wiseguy either and must be in his early 20s at that point. Tony looks more like a college stoner in that scene lol.

To be honest all the flashback scenes of younger Tony, nothing in his demeanor really implied he would be capable of turning into a ruthless mob boss.

But then again maybe that was the whole point of these scenes, to show Tony in a softer manner, before turning into what he did.

Not only they'd kill her, but there's no chance Christopher would get away with it too.

I dont think that the fbi would have allowed her out of their site at all during that time period.

They made him look as much like a young James Gandolfini as they could:




(Gandolfini is in the backrow, number 45)

As to budding wiseguys not looking like stoners?

Is that Gravano in the Colombo days?

Alphonse Persico went to college and had the aptitude to move into an esteemed profession.

Sergio Battaglia had a high-paying job at a car dealership before swiftly moving up through the ranks in the Stanfa crime family.

Salvatore Vitale worked as a corrections officer before a remarkable rise to #2 in the Bonanno crime family.

How about how he keeps an ak47,I believe a grenade, and other weapons in that hidden compartment in his house. The Fed's wouldn't have been able to find that?

Tony as a boss participating in the hits on Bevilacqua, the rat at the college visit, Ralph, Tony B, Pussy, Christopher, etc..

Not any one killing in particular..just the fact that a boss participated in so many...most of which were while he was the boss..

Tony was just the "Street Boss" so did the dirty work still, but i see your point. And the Rat at the college had to be done there and then.

This is VERY REALISTIC. I can completely relate to Meadow in this scene. And it is much better for everyone to NEVER tell your Italian father about men who bother you because 9 times out of 10, the outcome is not good.

https://youtu.be/hCBUOVJ0YLc


There is NO such thing as Forgive and Forget in the Italian male DNA.

Meadow inadvertently starts a mob war. lol.

Great camera work following Tony into the restaurant, hand on the gun as Coco obliviously laughs it up with Butchie.

You know that's a great point you just made. All the soprano women (with livia's blood) were involved with problems for tony. Livia with junior, Janice was always up to something but she really had put a battery in.richie's back, the meadow with coco in a totally different and justifiable reason. Might not have been David chase's intention but it worked out that way. Maybe in this case I'm over analyzing.

There's no such thing as over analyzing when it comes to this show, that's one of the best parts of it. Still miss it unlike any other cancelled show, Breaking Bad and The Wire being a close second..

Gomorrah is good too(not like the sopranos imo, but still good).

When Chris gets made and that crow suddenly appears in the window when he gets his finger pricked...like an impending curse or something. I always thought that was a a little over the top when it comes to realism.

I think the scene when they whacked Big Pussy was a lil far fetched. In real life they wouldn’t have had a drink and strolled down memory lane.