Why did Artie become so pathetic ??

Man I was watching Season 3 and that guy just lost it. He ends up wanting to divorce his wife and admits his love for Adriana?

These are just a couple examples. He ends up always feeling sorry for himself.

Your thoughts?

mid life crisis, when he keeps lookin at buddy and lifelong buddy tony doing what he does it eats at him and he loses it

Artie was always pathetic, the way he used to walk around the tables bothering his customers while they were trying to eat was also pathetic. The worst is when he shot the rabbit in his backyard and served it to the couple who came in to his place when he was ready to close - I always wondered if they got sick eating that sh!t?

He has always been a little self-conscious but the main reason for his behavior was probably due to the fact that his restaurant got burned down and he knew who was behind it.

The way I see it, Artie had a lot of seasoning to do. He always catered for others, but never enough for himself. The episode in which he goes to the guy for his $5000 was so embarrassing. He throttles the guy, an obvious tactic the other one knew how to quickly counter and then Artie lets the prick rip his ear and haul his ass out of the apartment? Pitiful.

I would like bucco's wife to shaker her big ass titties in my face

artie was my favorite character in the whole series. partly bc i work in a restaurant and i can relate to him.lol. plus he was hilarious. 'what is that carpet?designer?'lol. 'what are you gonna cry now?'lol. 'you frog eating faccia di cazzo i will fuck u up man!' lol. i still remember spitting my beer all over my pants when i first saw that.haha.

I think the writers made him that way to serve as a foil against the mob world to try to balance out the show.

I think Artie deep down inside wanted to b a gangster and didn't like thev route his life took.

If he wanted to be a gangster, he certainly wasn't built for it. Sure he beat up Benny (oddly enough), but notice how he runs off after those indian protestors cause a riot on Colombus day... He's running towards the car lol.

As mentioned, the burning of the restaurant and Tony denying it broke his heart. On top of that he can nearly make ends meet. Charmagne is constantly nagging him, and his own employees (martina), steals from him. His 50k loan went to shit putting his whole relationship with Tony at stake. The guy hadda lot of problems.

He was lucky to have a friend like Tony though..

He is the Angelo Lutz of the Sopranos.

Artie was a good chef,had an attractive wife,and a nice business.
He was a lifelong wannabee who couldn't bring himself to admit that he was too stupid and weak to be a mobster.Instead of realizing that this made him a decent human being,he saw it as a weakness.He spent his life wanting to be the kind of person that he was lucky enough not to be.

I vaguely remember that episode, I remember him shooting the rabbit but what would he have done to make them sick? Hell rabbit is some good eatin!!

Poor Artie... his wife used to date Tony, he was kind of bald and his wife had A LOT of balls, she said whatever she wanted, whenever she wanted. I didn't know he shot a rabbit and served it to that couple!!! LOLL!!!!

He should have told everyone to go f*ck themselves for a week or two and took a vacation...

well the problem with artie was it was his own damn fault his restaurant got burned down, tony tried other options. he gave artie the cruise tickets, but his wife wouldnt let him go because "someone donated their kneecaps for those tickets". bottom line, artie didnt have the balls to "tell everyone to go fuck themselves and take that vacation" and it cost him his restaurant. fuck him, always my least favorite character. remember after his restaurant burned down and artie was broke and tony was trying to convince him to become a loanshark(this was different from the 50k loan), artie tells tony he doesn't know if he can do it and tony yells at him telling him he knows little old ladies whoev had money on the street for years lol.

Artie was more a man than any other character portrayed.
He worked day and night his while life in a kitchen, carried his families (his grandfathers) legacy of a restaurant, paid his taxes, provided a legitimate service to the community.

All the while watching his childhood friends get rich quick on the pain, misery and destruction of others.

And you guys want to talk about balls?
You don't even know what they are.

[quote=SonnyBlackstein]Artie was more a man than any other character portrayed.
He worked day and night his while life in a kitchen, carried his families (his grandfathers) legacy of a restaurant, paid his taxes, provided a legitimate service to the community.

All the while watching his childhood friends get rich quick on the pain, misery and destruction of others.

And you guys want to talk about balls?
You don't even know what they are. [/quote]

i guess yours are the size of fucking beach balls!

Well now that you mention

Here's a Pop quiz. Which episode is this song from?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AHRHt5WLh_4

Artie was one of my favorite guys. He was funny and normal. And it was good for Tony to have a normal friend. Most of Tony's wiseguy friends weren't true friends. When Artie beat the shit outta Benny, that was great. Artie took all of his self-loathing and jealous anger out on Benny in that scene. Even though he wasn't a true badass and seemed disappointed in himself for not being capable of being a gangster - Charmaine still chose him over Tony. And Charmaine has nice big tits.

To be honest id have wanted a divorce too if i was Artie, Charmaine was just a constant bull buster despite how hard he worked, even though she was right morally, even at other times she was constantly sour faced and always bitching about something.

Rarity to see her happy in the show.

She didn't look happy? Funny never noticed her face my eye's were always on her .

lmao!!! why were Charmaine's titties always out? Of course she was sour pussed didn't you guys notice how the other women were able to find EXCUSES to carry on affairs then when the men tried to stand up for themselves like AJ's professor (who wasn't a catch by the way) the women went nuts and threatened to kill them? Unless I'm mistaken the writers of the show never showed Charmaine disloyal or cheating on her husband. It was odd how she stood up for Benny... running credit card scams out of her restaurant and she justified his actions standing up for his 'girlfriend'. Maybe SHE wanted an affair with Louis Gross... that buff boyguard who Tony slapped around for no apparent reason whatsoever.

sincerely, i like Artie as character. If anything, his fault is to be too weak to his wife; if he accepted the tickets for the cruise and closed the restaurant, there would have was no need to burn it.

in the history of the Mafia many have benefited from having a mobster as friend, as Skinny D'Amato that managing the club 500 in atlantic city.
For the $ 50.000 Artie if he really wanted to scare someone to get back the money,would have taken at least a baseball bat or brass knuckles without considering that Tony has deleted his loan.

The trouble of Artie is that who what is Tony and he is envious, but at the same time does nothing to try to ''improve his situation'', it's too good, because to be a criminal you have to be a fucking son of a bitch.

Artie's actions reflect someone on the inevitable downward slide in life. He off as pathetic because he was a relatively honest man who wanted to serve others. When surrounded by sociopaths who only want to serve themselves, it's a recipe for disaster.

But he also made choices that contributed to his troubles. He was stuck with an emasculating wife and in a dead end job. Yes, he owned his own restaurant, but it was essentially at its peak. Charmaine wouldn't let him expand the business, and Vesuvio was stale - the menu hadn't changed, and the service was slipping. After 20+ years of playing things straight, he's still scraping to get by. High-end restaurants are a fickle thing, and it doesn't take much to ruin it - a fire, a strong competitor, a recession, whatever.

His lifelong friends screwed him over - the fire, Tony ran up huge tabs and was slow to pay, the crew always mocked the restaurant and victimized him with scams, and even Scatino tried bumming money off him.

And it doesn't help when he tries to be bold, it always turns to shit, from his loaning money to the Frenchman to the Columbus Day protest to his attempt to market his pasta sauce.

You're right about one thing, the money to loan to the French; could go to ask for the money with the gun with which killed the rabbit or could seek help from Tony instead of getting manhandled and groped suicide; if he asked Tony to say that his restaurant was off-limits, crew members don't would try to cheat him, same thing with Charmaine if she said "Fuck you, I close the restaurant and go on cruise, with you or without you," Tony asked him if he would loanshark money on his own, and he said no.
Sorry about Artie but would have to understand that it takes a bit of nastiness to get ahead in the life.