Woltz's House 4 Sale

Here's the ultimate Godfather memorabilia.....price wise.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19685233/

Maybe I'll "head" down there and have a look.

$165M is a little steep. I may go as high as $150M.

Actually, the exterior shots for Woltz's estate were filmed at the old Guggenheim estate on Middleneck Road in Long Island. It's said that it was also F. Scott Fitgerald's inspiration for Jay Gatsby's estate (The Great Gatsby).

What do you mean? Parts of it used to decorate the palace of a king. Stop HORSING AROUND about the price.

Not your best, Don T.

-The estate of movie czar Jack Woltz was really the Harold LLoyd Estate ("Greenacres") in Beverly Hills, CA-- NOT the Guggenheim Estate on Long Island. [Interior shots, too? That may've been shot in the Guggenheim, but unconfirmed] *from this website.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/ar...in_page_id=1811


http://www.ligoldcoast.com/limovies.html

The proof goes on endlessly that the exterior shots were the Hearst estate, and the horse head scene were the Falaise.

If you buy her that, I bet your wife-to-be won't care if you spend a little on a Sopranos pinball machine for yourself.

I want you to go tonight; I want you to talk to this -- movie bigshot, and settle this business for Johnny.

Next month when I move to Staten Island, I'll actually be living about 5 miles from the "Corleone Mall". I'm holding out for 110 Longefellow Ave. to hit the market.

The Guggenheim estate IS Falaise, so I guess that's where the interiors were shot.

Funny, most books on the subject, including Harlan Lebo's, list Woltz's home as the Guggenheim Estate.

At the risk of starting a debate, it is my most humble opinion that the horse head in the bed scene is the most famous scene to most people. Keeping that in mind, it is my guess, that when discussing location scenes for the Godfather, the interior shot where the horse's head scene took place, is the location given for Woltz's mansion, not the exterior scenes where Woltz is talking with Tom around the pools.

Also thank you for the clarification of Falaise and Guggenheim being the same.

Hey, no problem Johnny. I really take in interest in that little tidbit because of THE GREAT GATSBY connection. It's my favorite novel from when I was a kid.

If you look at this link, it doesn't appear that Falaise looks like the exterior of Woltz's home, but the interior shot looks like the dining room that Tom and Woltz had dinner.

Okay Johnny, just scroll down to Falaise. It appears that the living room scene was shot at the Guggenheim estate.

Click Here: Godfather Shooting Locations

So is it settled, Woltz's mansion, exterior shots, Hearst mansion, interior shots, including the horse head scene, Falaise?

"So there we have the peace."

It says Woltz's bedroom was the actual living room of Falaise.

I've always found those snooty Suffolk County homes having their own names very obnoxious.

PB that comment shows you have good horse sense.

I only wish.

I could have single handedly saved Hialeah through my charitable donations. Don't let the Florida pols kid you, they were making money.

Who among us wouldn't be snooty if we could afford to live in a multi million dollar mansion? I am involved in an antique car club, and I find it amusing that some members apply female names to their cars.


http://www.rrrclc.org/55_Crimmins_Eldo_story.htm

Very cool, Johnny. If you ever cross the state over to Palm Beach, you'll find alot of those clubs.

While we are on the subject of Woltz, didn't he appear to have some mental disorder with having dual personalities. Case in point: When he first was introduced to Tom, he was calm:

TOM

Uh, I was sent by a friend of Johnny Fontane's -- His friend is my client, who'd give his

undying friendship to Mr. Woltz, if Mr. Woltz would grant us a small -- favor.



WOLTZ

Woltz is listening.

Then he gets pissed:

WOLTZ

Now listen to me, you smooth-talking son-of-a-bitch! Let me lay it on the line for you and

your boss, whoever he is. Johnny Fontane will never get that movie! I don't care how many -

- daigo guinea WOP greaseball gumbahs come out of the woodwork!

Then back to not only being calm, but being the most gracious host:

WOLTZ

Why didn't you say you worked for Corleone, Tom? I thought you were just some cheap

two-bit hustler Johnny was running in trying to bluff me.



TOM

I don't like to use his name unless it's really necessary.



WOLTZ

How's your drink, Tom?



Still Calm at dinner:

TOM

Mr. Corleone is Johnny's godfather. To the Italian people, that's a very religious, sacred,

close relationship.



WOLTZ

I respect that; just tell him he should ask me anything else. But this is one favor I can't give

him.
One would think that Woltz was a "reasonable" man! But then....


WOLTZ

You don't understand. Johnny Fontane never gets that movie. That part is perfect for him;

it'll make him a big star. And I'm gonna run him out of the business, and let me tell you why.


He sort of reminds one of Capt. Phillip Francis Queeg!

You gotta remember that Woltz was a powerful mogul in Hollywood who was used to having his way. When he is seemingly calm at the point Tom is forst talking to him, note how he curtly says "Woltz is listening," when he isnt listening at all, he is looking at a clipboard and signing a piece of paper. When Hagen finishes, Woltz gibes the flack holding the clipboard a smirk, as if to say "get a load of this asshole," and then he raises his voice to Tom.

This kind of behavior probably was a great way to control all those Hollywood finocchios, so Woltz figured he could use it on the Corleones....especially the bit about how he was no bandleader. In a deleted Saga scene Tom discusses with Vito various options, including blackmailing him about the young child star he is sleeping with (note how Vito says under his breath that this is an infamnia) and Vito asks whether this guy is really strong...like a Sicilian or is just bluffing. Tom says he isnt that strong and then he sends for Luca.

Found this in my mom's People magazine:

Do I dare to point out the error to the don of the board?

I know its a technicality, but an important one. While the mansion is the one used for the exterior shots, it was not the site of the famous horse-head scene. That site was on the other side of the country.

The bedroom of Woltz’s villa, where the studio boss finds the head of his unfortunate horse, is the living room of Falaise, on Sands Point Preserve, the Guggenheim estate way out at 95 Middleneck Road on Long Island

*clicks around looking for people to ban*

Hey! Here's someone!!!



Joshing, of course. Hey, I get (got) my information from the sources available at the time. I'm pretty sure, tho, that I mention the Guggenheim estate somewhere

Yes you did, under "locations". Actually it is People magazine that is putting out the wrong information. I can imagine all the curiosity seekers going to the Hearst Mansion looking for Woltz's bedroom.

I'm glad that i was join in this thread because i found that this thread is cool and exciting. LOL

Parts of the house were made from palaces built for kings.


Here's a proposed classified

Exclusive - 28,000 sq. ft. estate built with decorations once used on palaces of kings. Swimming pool, barn (no horses) and
allowance made for slightly stained rug in master bedroom.