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Borgesi Upset at Government #746696
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Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746707
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I LOVE IT!!!!! I hope they keep using him as a human urinal!! He belongs in a special needs section of the prison...Pieces of shit never quit stinking...he's volatile, a menace to South Philly and deserves to be locked up for life..if not for this crime, for the sins of the past and the ones he hasn't been charges with.

He has the be the ugliest motherfu$@er in the entire mafia!

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Only thing I think he has a legitimate beef about his that his sentence was up in 2011 and he should have been released then and then given a chance at bail for the new charges especially since he was found not guilty on all of the charges execpt one.

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He looks like hell for fifty years old. But prison will do that to you wink.


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Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746728
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It says George has Bell's Palsy now. I never knew that. Doesn't that affect the nerves in your face?

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"We want people to see what they're doing to my brother. They're playing dirty," said Anthony Borgesi, adding that if George Borgesi were a black prisoner, the country wouldn't stand for it. "Where's our Al Sharpton?"

jesus christ you gotta be kidding me

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Originally Posted By: merlino
Only thing I think he has a legitimate beef about his that his sentence was up in 2011 and he should have been released then and then given a chance at bail for the new charges especially since he was found not guilty on all of the charges execpt one.

I think they should of let Borgesi post bail after he beat 13 out of the 14 charges. I was actually kind of surprised they wouldn't set bail after that considering he finished serving that long sentence.

Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: RollinBones] #746734
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georgie the idiot circus clown may deserve to be out on bail but hes fucked over enough people and shows no class with anybody so the govn't is sticking it to him remember hes a killer so who gives a shit bout his rights

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something tells me his behavior in the can isn't very good so he has no leg to stand on

Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746739
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I knew a guy from youngstown who beat the shit out of borgesi when he was about 19-20 yrs old...the guy is dead now, but he used to lay action off in philly and borgesi stepped on his toes..started a whole to do and people from youngstown and philly had to have a chat and iron out a few financial differences

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Originally Posted By: Barbara1957
georgie the idiot circus clown may deserve to be out on bail but hes fucked over enough people and shows no class with anybody so the govn't is sticking it to him remember hes a killer so who gives a shit bout his rights

Yes, Borgesi from everything i've heard or read about him is a pretty miserable guy. The kind of guy it's real easy to dislike.

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Yes I think Bells Palsy is where one side of your face will be affected, kind of like a stroke in a way.

Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746750
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yea a guy I knew for over 40 years (i'm in my late 60's) was real close to this guy from youngstown named ernie b, cant think of his last name off top of my head, anyways ernie was a rising star in youngstown and was tight with the cleveland and pittsburgh groups and he used anthony mosco and mike insalaco in my neck of the woods as well as a guy named santo romeo in philly, as romeo was related to the entire youngstown romeo family, all having major connections to Italy and the calabrian mafia, anyways, ernie b stopped in wilkes-barre to see mosco and insalaco and then headed to philly to see romeo, once in philly, borgesi, who was late teens, maybe 21,22 yrs old at most started giving him some shit and when ernie told him to go fetch him a coffee and a sandwich, borgesi cocked off to ernie b and ernie b pummeled him inside the bar and put a gun to his head, needless to say it went to the top and youngstown as well as Pittsburgh had to sit down with some philly higher ups to iron it out. I got a call that day from ernie asking to speak with my good friend mosco, and bufalino sided with Pittsburgh because of his close friendship with their underboss kelly manarino. ernie b never did get made from what i heard but was well respected and one of youngstowns biggest earners.

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Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746754
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I think if I'm not mistaken Sammy the Bull also had that[Bells palsy]They got Borgesi on tape beating up Lutz and just laughing about it.You know as big as Lutz is he can't defend himself.Just the things you have heard about him,now he's claiming he's a victim and it seems like its falling on deaf ears.

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The bull has graves syndrome

Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746763
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Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746781
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From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

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I guess the Federal Govt.knows what their doing,but it seems kind of risky putting this Aponick on the stand.With his history and the break he is getting,plus wait until the jury finds out he threw his wife out of a moving vehicle.can't figure that one out.

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interesting

Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: merlino] #746841
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they should just throw that apponick junkie outta of a moving vehicle. hes no better then anyone he rats on.


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Defendants' relatives cite 'witch hunt' on eve of Philadelphia-mob retrial



By Brian Hickey
November 1, 2013


Meet Philadelphia's new mob trial. Same as Philadelphia's old mob trials?

There's good reason that the looming federal case against alleged crime boss Joseph Ligambi and his nephew George Borgesi has a deja-vu feel for a city steeped in old-school mafia intrigue, vignettes and court proceedings.

The case itself

Scheduled to kick off Monday at the James A. Byrne U.S. Courthouse at Sixth and Market streets, the retrial centers on a racketeering conspiracy and comes nearly nine months to the day after a jury deadlocked on a handful of charges.

It will feature much of the same evidence presented in the trial that preceded it. The jury in that case found Borgesi not guilty of 13 counts accusing him of directing loan-sharking operations from prison.

However, the prosecution will be able to speak to those charges in its effort to convict Borgesi of the 14th charge: racketeering conspiracy.

The government alleges that crimes were committed while Borgesi was incarcerated in federal correctional facilities in West Virginia and North Carolina, the result of a lenghty sentence dating back to the Joey Merlino case in 2001. (Had this new case not been brought, Borgesi would have been a free man in July 2012. Instead, he remains behind bars to this day.)

Borgesi's attorney, Christopher Warren, likened that, via motion, to the government having "free and unfettered reign to re-litigate to its heart's content each and every factual issue that was decided against it in the first trial." Warren declined to comment about the impending case this week.

Louis "Bent Finger Lou" Monacello, who federal prosecutors consider to have been a "key associate" who worked on Borgesi's behalf while the latter was incarcerated, will again testify for the prosecution. He's considered a key witness in the government's case.

Reached via the cell-phone number listed on his business website, Monacello politely told NewsWorks on Thursday that he couldn't comment on the case, but would be happy to talk about it afterwards.

Also expected to testify is Borgesi's former cellmate, Anthony Aponick, whose sordid rap sheet rivals the defendants'.

How it's different

Making this case unique from mob trials of yesteryear, neither man is charged with acts of violence — racketeering, video poker and extortion lead the way.

Also making it unique is the fact that Borgesi, his mother, brother and other relatives have lashed out about what they consider a vendetta against a 50-year-old with a penchant for speaking his mind in court and from his cell.

"We've always kept our mouths shut, but enough's enough. It's a personal thing," Borgesi's brother Anthony recently said. Warren "is fighting for my brother's life. We want someone to fight for my brother's rights. It's a witch hunt. His civil rights are being violated and nobody will stand up for him."

Borgesi recently made his thoughts known in a phone conversation heard by a Daily News reporter — "It is a joke, but I'm still sitting here," he said from the federal detention center at 7th and Arch streets, according to the newspaper — and in letters that his family has shared with NewsWorks over the course of recent months.

One angry family

To Manny Borgesi — Ligambi's sister and George's mother — and Anthony, the feds have kept him in prison as part of a spiteful vendetta that has seen him harassed at every turn.

The conversations have centered more on Borgesi than the alleged boss Ligambi, who Manny says is suffering in custody as well. However, "my poor brother" Ligambi, 74, didn't lose more than a decade behind bars before getting charged with new crimes while still in custody.

Their opinions of the individual prosecutors and FBI investigators involved in the case about a mob that they say no longer exists include words not fit for print.

"The whole time my brother has been in prison, he's been under 24-hour surveillance," Anthony Borgesi said. "If they're saying that George Borgesi did all these things from jail, shame on the government, because they're supposed to be watching him around the clock."

Their allegations range from investigative malfeasance (i.e. protecting protected witnesses against a laundry list of criminal charges ranging from robbery to domestic violence which may, or may not, be introduced during the trial) to petty instances of driving south with cheesesteaks and pretzels to the correctional facility for Borgesi to see and smell, but not taste.

This, despite the fact that relatives say Borgesi was "a model prisoner" who brokered peace between the Aryan Nation and black inmates behind bars.

"My brother will sit in prison for 100 years if he knows he did something wrong. With the first case, he said, 'I did what I did and I took my lumps and went to jail for it,' but he didn't do nothing this time,'" Anthony said. "Doesn't my brother have civil rights?"



Anthony Aponick, who is expected to testify against Borgesi in the upcoming trial, is one of few new wrinkles in the case.


Their beef

The grievance list also includes investigators visiting the businesses of in-laws and ex-wives, recording license-plate numbers outside of family bridal showers (where the only guests were females) and befuddlement about how allowing details of those 13 not-guilty charges into next week's trial doesn't constitute double jeopardy.

They are also of the mind that the prosecutors see the case as last gasp effort to justify keeping the Organized Crime Strike Force alive in the U.S. Attorney's Office.

Veteran organized-crime journalist George Anastasia told NewsWorks that "there's some basis" for where the Borgesis were coming from with some complaints.

"The feds have George in sights," he noted. "They would never say this, but [I think they're thinking] that George and his uncle both gotten away with murder; it's a different set of rules."

On the flip side, though, Anastasia noted that it'd be as unfair to call a potential witness a "wife abuser" despite charges being dropped as it would to call Borgesi a violent offender related to charges on which he wasn't convicted.

A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office declined to comment when NewsWorks asked about the "witch hunt" allegations.

However, David Fritchey, chief of the Organized Crime Strike Force in the U.S. Attorney's Office, told the Daily News, "It's hardly uncommon. I'm sure Jerry Sandusky is not happy about being in prison, either."

With stacks of document-filled manila envelopes at every interview, the Borgesis say they're not just griping.

"We have proof that everything they've done to my brother is a witch hunt, and they're still doing it," Anthony said. "He should have walked out of jail [in February]. He should have been home to prepare for this case.

"There is no justice. I don't care [if I shouldn't go public with this]. I'm not holding it in anymore. We want people to see what they've been doing to my brother. Enough's enough. Nobody's saying we're angels, but if it's fair, it's fair, and this [case] isn't."

The case, for which jury selection is slated to start Monday, is expected to last more than a month.

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Who is the guy with Borgesi

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yea I hear you on that one, some of the stories I hear about him and joeym aren't too good..Not paying restaurant bills, not paying off when they lose on their bets, beating up bar tenders and flushing their heads down poopers... a lot of other mob guys dont like that shit and them...And I don't either.. I read that before they really did flush some kids head...lol And what about those other bookies and restaurant owners they stiffed.. they would love to see this punk suffer.. Now Bent finger might not be able to put away uncle joe..But he got that info on borgesi and they know bent finger was his right hand man in the delco nostra.. so he probably got a lot of info on borgesi..All though uncle joe already did his time..he should b home by now..

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Originally Posted By: 22
Who is the guy with Borgesi

I was wondering who he was too....but the caption under the picture just mentioned Borgesi. Probably just a prison buddy but i really don't know. Looks like there was someone on the other side of George too that they cropped out of the shot.

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Yes Giancarlo that link that you said to go to in red,says relatives of Borgesi far right say its a witch hunt,so there was somebody on the other side.

Re: Borgesi Upset at Government [Re: dixiemafia] #746925
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Bells Palsey is stress related too I think... It looks awful.. kind of like when they say don't frown too much or your face might freeze that way... it's horrible when the poor person tries to smile. it's very hard not to stare at them when they have it...

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The guy with Borgesi is Sal Zangari, his buddy. He used to own a karate place in Philly but he moved. It's probably Bent Finger Lou that was cut out of the pic - look at the hand.

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Originally Posted By: LuckyDucky
The guy with Borgesi is Sal Zangari, his buddy. He used to own a karate place in Philly but he moved. It's probably Bent Finger Lou that was cut out of the pic - look at the hand.

Good call....thanks.

Looks like Zangari's karate place is now in Southampton PA.

http://www.southamptonkarate.com/

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Giancarlo there's no news yet about the trial,during jury selection are the defendants present or just their lawyers and how long should picking a jury for this type of trial take.

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Originally Posted By: 22
Giancarlo there's no news yet about the trial,during jury selection are the defendants present or just their lawyers and how long should picking a jury for this type of trial take.


I know they have the right to be there but they might also have the option of just letting their lawyers be present. Really not positive on that though.

Jury selection i think will be a huge factor. I would think they should have a jury picked by the end of the week....maybe sooner.

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