Why does Spike Lee center his ignorance towards "White Italians" so he says
Italian people are a culture not necessarilly white but a culture. What has an Italian ever done to him to be so ignorant?

1. As Silvio would say, "this is Anti-Italian Discrimination"
2. He has a history of ignorance towards anyone not of African American descent and thinks the world is owed to him by anyone that isn't his race. It disgusts me.


Besides His name is "Spike Lee", (He wasn't born with that name trust me, it was Shelton or some shit.) That's pretty much the dumbest name you can come up with rivaling "Chanel West Coast".

This guys acting like black neighborhoods are the only ones changing. Plenty of white neighborhoods change, if not more.

And can you imagine if a white celebrity went on a rant like his but about black people? It would be a huge controversy. But since he's black it's ok!

Especially in the movies Do The Right Thing and Jungle Fever he was trying to put out the message that Italian people were stupid and shit, But especially in the movie Do The Right Thing he put all his ignorance towards Italians.

I remember he tried calling out Clint Eastwood for his two movies "Letters to Iwo Jima" and the other one (I can't recall right now), saying they had no black troops in it.

The guys starts reverse racism bull crap to get his name out there and stir the pot.

It would be real stupid if he tried to call out Steve McQueen saying there were no black troops in the Great Escape.

spike lee and quinton tarrantino put truths into their movies

everybody knows why people hate spike lee and it ain't because he's ignorant

And yet Spike had a problem with Tarantino directing "Django Unchained." Didn't he?

And I like Spike Lee, Cook. But you're so fucking ignorant that I can't help but play Devil's Advocate.

So if it's okay for Spike Lee to make films depicting life in an Italian American neighborhood, why does Spike always seem to have a problem with White directors making films about urban Black life? He shouldn't be able to have it both ways.

And again, I like Spike. But his biggest problem is that he's an "artsy" director. And when you're that kind of filmmaker, you take pride in never "selling out." But you never make the money that mainstream directors make, either. And I think Spike is starting to resent that in his middle age.

So is it right that Tyler Perry has a net worth that's ten times what Spike's is? In theory, probably not. But in practice, that's the way of the world. Money talks and bullshit walks. If you want the money, then put it above your art. Sell out, or shut the fuck up about it.

Not aware of any comments he made about Italians but without looking it up, you can tell a lot about how when and where some celebs grew up if you follow their work.

A PAL coach of mine (Mr. "Turle dove" in Italian)once said to me that people in certain cities depending on their age/ethnicity were on either end of classic American immigration story. One ethnicity has an enclave of their own...new one comes in...gets picked on, beat up bullied....etc...until the old group moves out and the new group has the numbers....cycle continues.

Mr. T disliked Irish people....partly because he caught all types of hell growing up from Irish people.

He said that Hollywood's obsession with mafia and their limited depictions of Italians was based on certain groups resenting Italians for the same reasons.

Spike's family was first Black family in an Italian neighborhood in Brooklyn. You can read certain residual feelings towards Italians in some of his work.


Howard Stern, the same way. I was a teen and thought Stern was one of the FUNNIEST guys EVER....then at some point..he launched bitter
attacks against Black people on his radio show. Haven't listened to him since.
But if you look up his story.....his family was one of the LAST white families in Roosevelt, Long Island as Black families moved in. They refused to sell.

Spike, in a subtle manner...and Stern in an open manner......are holding on to long held resentment towards certain groups of people

"He said that Hollywood's obsession with mafia and their limited depictions of Italians was based on certain groups resenting Italians for the same reasons. "

Certain groups of people that control Hollywood...got it.
I didn't realize that they had beef with each other. Why isn't there more Nazi movies then?

I like Spike Lee but his constant ramblings on white people bother me. I can understand perhaps some of his resentment but more than once he's been a total hypocrite.

The Iwo Jima thing was just one example. Clint Eastwood isn't racist for trying to keep the film historically accurate. Black soldiers simply did not fight with white soldiers in WW2. Doesn't make it right, but you can't just pretend it didn't happen and there weren't any blacks putting that flag up in Iwo Jima. That time Spike needed to shut the fuck up

"Control Hollywood"?

You didn't read that. That was Mr. Turtle-dove's read as an American of Italian background.

There are tons of Americans films with Nazi (and Arab) villains though, just for the record. The Pianist and Inglorious Basterds are some of the more recent award winning ones.George Clooney and Matt Damon are in one that either opens soon or has just opened.

in fact.....bookmark this thread....in any given year...there is a big studio film with Nazis as villains. check this thread next year.

If you made a few films..I think some of the resentment you expressed towards Americans of Indian and East Asian background would eventually surface.

Nice job taking harmless joke and turning it into a lynching. Who isn't pissed at Indians? They stink. There could never be an Indian ninja...

Spike Lee is a joke now and has never actually been that special of a director in the first place imo, at least not in the way he thinks he is. Do the Right Thing and 25TH Hour are brilliant other than that, all of his other films including Malcolm X are either average or plain bad, usually the latter imo. Still got no idea why the guy thinks he's a MLK type figure, when he's just as racist as his supposed enemies. at cookcounty you are the most amazing troll i've ever witnessed.

It's of course because he's black!!! We all know that according to the gospel of cookcounty, blacks should be treated equally unless white people want to criticize their actions, then that's straight up Racism, is that about right cook? As i understand it Obama is of course the first President to ever be criticized and if it was a white Democrat this damn racist criticism wouldn't happen? Of course Lees clear Racism towards non-blacks isn't revelant either cook?

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Fixed it for you

Thanks

"It's of course because he's black!!! We all know that according to the gospel of cookcounty, blacks should be treated equally unless white people want to criticize their actions, then that's straight up Racism, is that about right cook? As i understand it Obama is of course the first President to ever be criticized and if it was a white Democrat this damn racist criticism wouldn't happen? Of course Lees clear Racism towards non-blacks isn't revelant either cook?"

Camarel, cookcounty is pissed. He tells me that there are only 600 white people who are allowed to talk to him like that and they are all made guys in the Chicago Outfit.

@pizzaboy


spike lee is a movie director

most of the times entertainers, athletes, etc. should be seen and not heard



@camarel


are there even any fucking black people in scotland for you to be a bigot

it ain't the brothers fault that your kilt wasn't dry cleaned properly

"are there even any fucking black people in scotland for you to be a bigot

it ain't the brothers fault that your kilt wasn't dry cleaned properly"


Hear that Camarel. You better shut up or you going to get kilt.

What does that even entail? You're not exactly coming off as an educated, intelligent individual

I actually agree with this. In the past (and most recently with that douchebag Alec Baldwin), I've been quick to point out that celebs should just keep their mouths shut. ESPECIALLY about politics and social issues. And if the celebrity happens to be White (like Baldwin), or Black (like Lee), then so be it.

I've never had a problem with Spike Lee in the past. But he doesn't get a pass when being a hypocrite. If he can make films about Italian Americans, then he should keep quiet about White filmmakers making movies about Black people (he was very critical of Tarantino making "Django Unchained"). There are limitations, of course. If a White director makes a blatantly racist film, then he should be called on it.

Bottom line, it all cuts both ways.

@pizzaboy


django wasn't a racist film, it was a tarantino movie set in a racist time period

tarantino need to keep snorting coke and making classic movies

spike lee needs keep making classic movies

Careful, that's William Wallace behind that name, he only uses the name Camarel to throw people off.

Right Camarel?

pizza


Spike didn't object to QT making Django because he's White or non Black. He specifically objected to the original script of the film which trivialized slavery and was a blaxploitation/sexploitation/Italian western.

QT himself was convinced to tone down some of the sensational and exploitative elements of the original script...and altered it.

on this page....

http://www.reggiesworld.com/

there is a Q&A with Django producer Reginald Hudlin where the original script comes up.

QT, like Howard Stern has visible contempt for Black people...as the scripts of his films are peppered with racial slurs. If you look up his story....he was one of the last white kids in his neighborhood as it became more Black. so.......certain that he has pent up feelings that come out in his scripts.

Spike took objection to QT with his history and tendencies , and his original script....getting the greenlight to do the film.......not just because a white person was doing the film.
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I found it interesting though, that racial slurs towards Blacks predictably (and historically accurately) show up a lot in Django, but in QT's film set in NAZI occupied France...none of the German slurs towards jews appear in script ....outside of the opening scene....and even though several characters were Nazis in WW2 Europe.

"things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

Typical cookcounty, he can't read what was said so he says something completely unrelated in randomly spaced out sentences. If it was me coming off with a similar black stereotype you'd be claiming white devil.

Signed, Kilt-wearing white devil.

Most of my family is Irish so i'm more likely this guy

Oh, help me, Rhonda .

Interesting article, Gets. And for the record, I completely understand some of Spike's reservations about the content in the early draft of that film (I should also note that I still haven't seen "Django"). And like I said earlier, I never had too much of a problem with Spike.

All I'm saying is, he's being hypocritical because he feels it's okay for him to depict Italian Americans in a bad light, yet when White filmmakers do the same with the Black community he's very outspoken about it. So I'm not at all saying that he shouldn't voice his opinion about Black stereotypes. But he shouldn't be propagating Italian American stereotypes either. It's a two way street.

"Do the Right Thing" is a classic. "Jungle Fever" was a swing and a miss in my opinion. But by "Summer of Sam," his depiction of Italian Americans was so cartoonish that one can't help but call him on his hypocrisy.

I saw Summer of Sam recently and I have to agree. Every stereotype of Italian Americans, including the mafia was so overblown you couldn't help but wonder what Spike was on when he made it. I mean he couldn'tve gotten someone like Pacino or Pesci to advise him?