Who do you guys think is the better actor? Personally I think with some of Bales recent performances he has quietly become arguably the best actor in the business right now.

Dicaprio imo. He was excellent in Catch Me If you Can, The Aviator and The Wolf of Wall Street to name a few. Out of interest what recent performances are you talking about? I thought he was really good in American Hustle and American Psycho . To be honest i think there's better actors right now than both of them, like Daniel Day Lewis and Joaquin Phoenix.

The fighter, American hustle, the machinist, the prestige, batman trilogy etc. I think both are great don't get me wrong. But I just feel like Bale puts absolutely everything into his performances. I think American Psycho might be his best performance though.

I want to see Phoenix in Inherent vice. I know it's supposed to be a comedy but I can see him being funny. Still no trailer out yet which tells me that maybe the movie will be pushed back.

It should be released in late December, there's plenty of time for a trailer.

Have you seen any of PTA's comedies? The humour is mostly derived from his scripts and even then it's minimal. Well i guess Boogie Nights is the exception. No doubt Phoenix is a dramatic actor, but i personally think he's the best actor working today and would be able to pull it off. You get to see flashes of it throughout The Master.

Thomas Pynchon has approved of PTA's script (the first of his novels he's allowed to be filmed) , so i imagine it will be just like the book. If anyone has read it?

According to this it's going to be The Big Lebowski meets The Long Goodbye, which can only be good.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Paul-Thom...dbye-42566.html

He was good in Hustle and The Fighter. Haven't seen The Machinist, and i didn't find anything special about him in The Prestige (or that movie for that matter). He was ok as Bruce Wayne, but i'm probably one of the few that preferred Michael Keaton. Another one i remembered was his debut in Spielbergs, Empire of the Sun, he was pretty good in that.

Rescue Dawn as well. But the prestige isn't a movie that I can watch all the time like goodfellas or anything but I just think is performance is great. But nah I haven't seen too much of PTA. I should probably check out some of his stuff. I'm really looking forward to that movie.

You should watch them all including his debut Hard Eight, which is probably his weakest but he was only 25 when he made it. As well as his two short films The Dirk Diggler Story, which is the short film Boogie Nights is based on which he made when he was 18. And Ciggarettes and Coffe which is the basis for Hard Eight.

PTA didn't actually attend film school, he taught himself how to make movies by reading film magazines and started making movies when he was 12 from a camera his dad bought him. He later managed to become an assistant on a number of movie sets including for Robert Altman, before making his short movies with money that was supposed to be for college.

They are both good. Tho I haven't seen many of either of their films, I'll go with DiCaprio. Just last week I saw Shutter Island, and tho the ending was somewhat of a disappointment, Leo's performance was good.

A few years ago, I caught part of "American Psycho" on tv, with Christian Bale. OMG what a shocker. I wasn't expecting such a depressing plot. Then again, what would one expect from the film title right? Never saw the entire film. I've seen it on before, but need to be in the mood to watch I guess.

Btw, I thought I read that at one time, they were considering casting DiCaprio in the title role.


TIS

American Psycho is a black comedy, i thought it was hilarious. You should watch it all the way through TIS, it has a good ending/last 20 minutes or so.

Camarel,

OMG,I must have not watched enough of it, but I really didn't know it was a comedy. It was late at night, I was half asleep but damn, it did perk me up. I just thought it was sick, but black comedy, does put a different spin on it I guess. I'll try to catch when it's on again.

TIS

Well there are a few gory death scenes but they are too cartoony to take seriously imo. The comedy is quite subtle at times, but if you were to watch it all i'm sure you'd know what i mean.

One of my favorite movies

Leo, FACT..

Yeah American psycho was hilarious. Whenever he would talk about his favorite artists right before he killed his victims I would start dying.

You sound like someone he'd enjoy killing

Yeah I'm sure hahaha. I have to pick up some videotapes.

DiCaprio i think is the better actor, but Bale is good too.

Really liked him as the cracked out Dicky in the movie The Fighter.

What about Matthew Mcconaughey? He's been amazing lately I think the route he's taken has been wonderful. He's been working with great directors and giving outstanding performances while taking risks at the same time. I think he's been the best actor in the business lately. And it looks like he's gonna keep up the good work with his new movie directed by Chris Nolan "Interstellar".

I know that was a little off topic but I was just saying that he's up there too.

McConaughey was great in both Dallas Buyers Club and True Detective, but he still has to answer for some horrendous movies he decided to do in the past. To be honest he's in the "Hollywood love" period, which will last 2-3 years of him accepting Oscar-bait roles before he becomes a Marvel character or some other money spinning role.

This is what i'll always remember him for -

Before he got black listed, Edward Norton trumped them all.

Worst/Most overrated actors

Brad Pitt (just a pretty face; almost singlehandedly ruined 30 Years a Slave with his one scene)
Mark Wahlberg (atrocious)
Denzel Washington (same in every movie)
Sean Penn (he can stretch every sinew in his face all he wants. I'm not convinced by his overwrought mugging)
Johnny Depp (plays an eccentric/pirate or a variation of an eccentric/pirate in every movie though Donnie Brasco proved he can be good)
Nicolas Cage (acts like he's on cocaine in every movie)

Agreed on every one of them, but was Cage ever rated? To me he's always been a punchline for a terrible actor like Keanu Reeves except Cage is actually watchable. I liked Depp in Benny and Joon (good Chaplin/Keaton impersanation imo) as well as Fear and Loathing but overall he's overrated. Pitt was quite good in Se7en as well. Other than that they're all average or bad.

I disagree on Denzel I think he's great. Maybe lately he hasn't been as great but he's still one of the greatest imo. But yes I agree Mcconaughey has been in many bad chick flick movies. But I think he is answering for them now with his recent roles definitely. I'm just saying that as of present day I think he is one the greatest actors in the business right now if not the greatest. But we'll see. Norton was great I love him. I think him and Mcconaughey have a lot of similarities in certain ways. I think Mcconaughey has been phenomenal lately though very impressed.

I sure hope he doesn't just start taking the money. It's possible though it's happened before deifnitely. But Wooderson was great man. One of his best performances even though it was a small part. Alright alright alright.

And I like Pitt I think he's pretty good. He's never been seen as the greatest actor but a great actor. I think he's showcased that in certain roles. When you call someone overrated you're saying that they're average but get praised as if they're one of the greatest. I would never say that Denzel is average or Pitt for that matter. I believe both are great. Denzel more than Pitt. I think if you go down Denzel's best performances you'll see a lot of great ones. I personay prefer him over morgan freeman who I feel usually plays the same person except for the time he played the pimp. But even when he played the pimp I just couldn't find him believable as a tough guy. Freeman is still great. Just overhyped.

I just don't think Brad Pitt has the depth to pull off weighty scenes.

He's barely even believable doing a monologue in a perfume ad.

Don't get me wrong. I like him in Seven and Fight Club but it's not because of his acting. It's because he is/was a cool guy; at least before Angelina Jolie got her hands on him.

Just noticed this i think Norton also fits into the overrated bracket, to clarify i don't actually think he's a bad or average actor since Revis has redefined the word overrated .*

Norton was pretty good in American History X and his best role imo: 25th Hour. The problem i have with him is Primal Fear, neither the choirboy or Roy are believable. Yet it's usually touted as an underrated performance, the twist is the reason people rethink both characters imo.

Saying someone is overrated in no way means you're saying they're average! Plenty of directors,actors,etc; i'd rate from good to great but still think they're overrated. For example i imagine if we were to have a poll of this site Quentin Tarantino would make the top 5 at least, while he'd be lucky to crack my top 20. Yet i think he's a good director.