I'm curious as to why some people are against GFIV

I saw one person write that if all the original people came back (Pacino,Coppola,DeNiro,Keaton,etc.) then they shouldn't if there in the right mind frame. Why...? I really can't understand it at all, don't you all want to have a new movie come out going deeper into the Corleone Empire? Is it your afraid that it will be bad? Well you know what it could be AMAZING it could rank up there with the first two as one of the greatest movies of all time. You know what either way were never gonna find out unless we try.

Or It Could Be an Even Biger Shit Storm Than Part III was!

Puzo is dead and So is the Saga.

Not if enough of us Godfather enthusiasts were to collaborate on it; we certainly know how to not screw it up.

Jep thats true, but I'm still against GF 4. The Trilogy is finished. There is nothing you can talk about anymore. Yes, you can talk about Vinny, but then were does the movie ends. Vinny gets kids, one of these becomes succesor etc. Then we don't have an end. And maybe GF 4 blows up the whole trilogy. It could be a worse one.

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The simple way to end the trilogy would be jus to show that the Corleone family is COMPLETLY dead, by giving vincent no sucessors and no route for an 'eyre' to emerge.

Therefore the ending would be the end of the Corlone family saga, after part 3 there will allways be an opportunity for a sequel because the story allows this due to the corleone family still living on (in the form of vincent).

I'm still not subscribing to the theory that the book currently in the works will be made into a movie, and i actually for some reason am under the impression that it will be a sequel to the book and not the movies. The trilogy is closed, indeed, and the only way i would even remotely get worked up about it is if all of the following: Shire, Garcia, Pacino in some form, Keaton, D'Ambrosio, and if possible Deniro returned. Hell, bring back Fonda-as long as it stays real to the fans. Also if FFC did not make it, than i would only want Sofia to direct it, just to keep it in the family. I DO NOT want to see other Hollywood people getting their mits on this project-remember how close Sly Stallone almost got to sinking his teeth into Part III?

That'd be interesting...if the entire production of The Godfather Part 4 was down to this message board...

Just face it the trilogy is over isn't triliogy mean three parts?? Anyways there is no way a IV can be pulled off there would be no good ending and the third one almost ripped it for the first two so why do you want to keep going? Just leave it like it is! It's already the best collection you can have in my opionion a fourth would just be to much......

No.

Who exactly is 'we'? Are you planning to be a filmmaker when you grow up? If so then by all means give it a try if you can manage to acquire the rights to the story. Time will tell whether or not you posess the talent to have lightening strike yet again.

But the story has been told, and in a classic style. It's over.

AppleOnYa

The godfather in the 21st century? What will they have like a 360 degree angle shot in slo mo of vincent getting shot. New movies suck. The Godfather was a classic and a true classic should remain that way.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the terms triliogy/saga/epic came after the films were made,and they were used as marketing devices. It seems to me that Paramount or whoever had the rights to the films, kept on naming the films differently just to keep reselling the same things. With the advent of DVD, they found another way to resell again.

I think a 4th film would be a blockbuster. Why? After the more or less dismal success and disappointment of GFIII, the only way the film has to go is up! As suggested, try to bring back as many original cast as possible, take time to write a really great script, and combine FFC with someone such as Scorsese in the direction, add Chazz Palminteri from "A Bronx Tale", in a leading role, and you got a winner.... :p

Wrong.

It would go more along the lines of beating a dead .

Furthermore, though I myself and others have little use for GFIII, it is generally considered a well made film when not held up to the standard of the first two. Therefore...a GFIV if anyone dared to make it, would further cheapen the story and stand a good chance of plummeting to depths far lower than Part III ever saw.

Apple

Wrong.

It would go more along the lines of beating a dead .

Furthermore, though I myself and others have little use for GFIII, it is generally considered a well made film when not held up to the standard of the first two. Therefore...a GFIV if anyone dared to make it, would further cheapen the story and stand a good chance of plummeting to depths far lower than Part III ever saw.

Apple [/b][/quote]Apple;

I greatly agree with you, in fact with Scorsese's films "Goodfellas" and "Casino", of which either one with a little rewriting, could have been GFIV, there isn't too much of a story left about the mob in "modern times". Actually the only time period lacking in the GF tales, is the period from Vitos starting the Genco olive oil company, and Connies wedding in GFI. As I stated before, I think an interesting film could be made with a combination of FFC and Scorsese's styles. I would imagine that Scorsese would have no problem getting DeNiro, bring in Chazz Palminteri and Joe Pesci as opposing family dons, and I can't see how it can miss.

I would also suggest not calling it GFIV. Try something else such as "Vitos Story", "Making of a Don" etc.

If that time period would make so interesting a story...I cannot help but wonder why FFC/Puzo chose not to bring it to film. Instead, they depicted Vito's early years and then brought Michael's own story forward. And then elaborated on it further in GFIII.

If the period between Genco Olive Oil and Connie's wedding were made into a movie, then the general message would be...'Well, we've told every other aspect of the Godfather Saga, guess we'd better do something with THESE years it's all that's left!' And it would probably come off that way...as a desparate attempt to please fans who can't appreciate a gem when they have it.

Some brash future filmmaker might have the guts to try it, someday. But, as with the actors involved in the Godfather Trilogy...we can only hope and pray that FFC and Scorcese are far too intelligent to attempt such a thing.

Apple

I think even doing GodfatherIII was a bit of a stretch. To me Godfather II was the best of the three, but my fav is Godfather I

Apple

I would think that time constraints was the main reason. I think the telling of GFII was a stroke of genius. I dont think I have ever really saw a film, that basically had 2 seperate storys in one film. There was just so much they could be told in a film.

Within the time period between the flashback scenes and the beginning of GFI, I think there is a rich amount of story to be told. We just saw the foundation of the Corleone Family under Vito, and the finished product in GFI. The actually building of the family, I think, would make a most interesting story. We could see the interaction of a younger Vito and younger Roth, the development of Tessio and Clemenza, the bringing in of Sonny and Fredo into the "family", proably even the formation of the other familys. I would love to see an ongoing battle between Vito and Barazini.

A combination of Scorseses narrative way of doing a film, and FFC's photography and detail, would make a most entertaining film.

Then why didn't they do it with GFIII (which come to think of it, MIGHT have made a better story than the one they ultimately came up with)?

Great! Then get together with Don'tForgetTheCannolis and make yourselves a movie. Good luck, you'll need it!!

:rolleyes:

Apple

I guess they had two ways to go with GFIII, either forward with Mike's adventure, or go back to Vitos story before Connies wedding. I guess they took the path of less resistance [and money]. With GFIII they were able to write out Hagen [Robert Duvall], and replace him with the sun tanned George Hamilton.


[/quote]Great! Then get together with Don'tForgetTheCannolis and make yourselves a movie. Good luck, you'll need it!!

:rolleyes:

Apple [/b][/quote]Hey I still have my Kodak Brownie movie camera, I can still get some great outdoor shots in Little Italy New York, and bring some of the crew down here to Philly for other good shots. How do I get ahold of DeNerio and Pesci???? :p

People keep saying that Godfather 3 was crap but i thought it was great...Lets face it, it wasnt as good as the original or part 2 but man its still a great flick...yes it should have been wynona ryder and not sofia coppola but still...it was great and im more than anxious to see il padrino 4...

As a true Godfather fan, I am obsessed with the trilogy. I love Francis Ford Coppola and all of the movies he directs. Al Pacino is easily one of the best actors ever and in GF4 I'm am sure he would be just as good as he ever was. However, Mario Puzo was just as good a writer as FFC was a director and as Pacino was an actor. I would love to see a fourth installment of the Godfather........cowritten by Puzo. You see Puzo started the legacy we all know and love today. Others have helped (and everyone involved did a great job) but Puzo was always the roots of The Godfather and now that "the big guy" has torn out the roots, I'm afraid that no matter how much sun and water is given to The Godfather, it just won't be able to grow much taller.
Besides, the trilogy has had a great run, even GF3, while there was a lot of things wrong, the story pulled through just as I though it would. Its been a great time, but lets leave it at that and just focus on things like, "Did Fredo Know?".

The fact is-no Puzo-no Godfather-and Fredo didn't know

Have not none of you who are screaming "No Puzo, No GF!!!" watched the DVD Bonus disc? In fact the one member of the "GF Family" who was most unequivocal that he DID in fact want GF IV to be made, was none other than Mario Puzo himself. He goes into some detail about how he had half the script written, gave some of it to Garcia, Pacino, DeNiro, etc etc.

If a GF IV is ever made, there's no doubt it will be based very heavily on Puzo's preliminary drafts. So everyone can rest assured that Puzo's influence would still be very strong.

I think if a GF IV is ever made it will be based in large part on the segments of the original GF novel by Puzo which have not already been covered in I, II and III.

GF I and II are probably the two most honored American films ever made. GF III was a disappointment because it was rushed, which resulted in several key casting losses and a hurrieedly-thrown -together script.

The script has already been seasoning, in some parts, for up to 20 years.

If done well, GF IV could in fact partially redeem III by tying up some of its loose plot points and also wrapping up some hanging plot threads left over from I and II.

I'd love to see it happen, and I think it could become a "prestige project" like Oliver Stone's "JFK", which featured a huge list of A-list stars who all wanted to be in it because they thought it would be a feather in their acting caps.

I think DeNiro, Pacino and Shire probably feel "ownership" in their characters and would be excited to see them out in a truly fitting fashion. And Garcia could move up into that top rank of Hollywood respected actors with a strong performance in GF IV.

My thinking is that actors are fans too. They like to play roles with substance to them. A GF IV, based significantly on Puzo's previously-written plot structure and emphasizing a logical progression of the epilogue sequences, and done with the attention to detail it deserved, could be one of the great events of American cinema in the next 10 years or so.

I agree with Enzo. The key is it has to be planned out well by having the right people casted with the right director. If they cant bring back people like Pacino and DeNiro who would play major parts in it, then it cant be done. They have to get the people they want for each part so it can become just as good as the first two. They cant let someone like Duvall with GFIII get away. Give everyone the money they want, and itll be done well and everyone will be happy.

I thoroughly enjoyed GF III, and it has a special place in my heart. Hell, compared to what is coming out today, GF IV has to be better if for nothing else than for its association to the *greatest* trilogy of all time.