GodFather 4

HI every Body! Does any body know if there is a chance of the godfather 4 coming out...

this is one of the questions that belongs in the futured FAQ...

If they do who will be godfather? andy garcia
It would just be weird not seeing al pacino.

thats true... alpacino has been in all godfather movies... but i always wandered if it would be good enough to beat the other godfathers....

I hope not.

someone mentioned earlier that if the GF4 would have been made, then there would have been one last scene with Michael. He would meet with Garcia and discuss some issues...

Yup, you'll be seeing this in my FAQ!!! Answer is... NO!!!

If I had control over a GF4, I would make mainly about the past... I would use flashbacks for the time between Vito's revenge in Sicily and GF1, a short period between GF1 and GF2. Quite a bit between GF2 and GF3, showing Michaels children becoming closer to thier mother and how Michael legitimizes his bussiness's and then one final scene with Vincent as Don, but fairly old. His son has just become a Senator, Vito's last wish...

noledge

thats a good idea tony, but i dont think theres any chance of a part 4 after what happen to part 3. But if they do make it, it better top them all because thats what weve been waiting for

Every Time I watch the godfather... it always feels like there should be more to the story.... but i think it would be very hard espacially since mario puzo,the auther died....

The film, if it were ever made (and I don't think it should), should not under any circumstances be called "The Godfather Part IV". Remember how FFC wanted Part III to be called "The Death of Michael Corleone" to set it apart from the first two films? With hindsight, I believe that FFC was totally right. Part III was different, but the audiences expected more of the same, resulting in (unjustified) disappoinment. It is hard to see any 'Part IV' being in the same league as the trilogy, so perhaps for that reason alone, it should have another name. It can be a spin-off (that is usually negative, but it needn't be in this case) from the original, developing some of the main characters. How about, "The Rise of Sonny Corleone"?

I know people are coming up with other names besides the godfather... i know francisFC wanted to call gf3 the death of micheal corleone... but i think any other name besides the gf4 would never be the same.... i think it should be called the gf4 if it is ever to be made....

I like the idea of a spin off... But I think another film is totally out of the question, so they should make a mini-series... FFC could write and direct, while unknown's could play the parts of Vito, Sonny, Michael etc, with cameo's from Caan, Pacino, Duvall, DeNiro, Brando etc...

It would be cool...

noledge

A mini series! for the godfather.... i dont think so...

any body else have an opinion...???

Have FFC sit in a small room telling us answers to all the questions we have ever wondered.

yeah.. wouldnt that be great....

it would have been even cooler if mario puzu could have done that... but thats kind of immpossible now...

GF 4 has to have a story so that it can survive on its own. Since the actors from GF, GF2, and GF 3 are a bit older now, the story of GF4 should rely on its own completely and creat a new story, not explain scenes from the past.

I think it would be hard making another Godfather because at the end of gf3 all it shows is the death of the godfather. It does not show any life of making another one. like part1 they left you with a hook at the end of it. same thing with part2.Part3 there is nothing. when mario puzo died so did the godfather IMO.

yes they did... in gf3 vincent becomes vincent corleone..... and is the new head of family......

Yeah but its not about Vincent,its about Michael.All 3 Godfathers were about Michael.

but that doesnt mean it has to stay about micheal.... its like a real life... times change.. people change

so true...it the story that needs to be good and some good acting. What are most new movies today, Old movies, remade and put to a modern day theme or setting.

not all the movies.... are remade.... some are made by books...

Michael doesn't die untill 1997, and since GF3 was set in 1980, theres still 17 years to develop a story around his character and Vincents...

Plus you could have Kay, Anthony etc...

noledge

I said it before and i will say it again. GF4 should be done in the flashback mould again, with the rise of Vito Corleone, in the wars with the Irish etc, in the period between GF1 and GF2, coupled with the downward spiral of the family with Vincent as its leader, caught up in the narcotics trade. Robert De Niro as Vito. Andy Garcia as Vincent. Simple. You could call it the rise and fall of the corleone family. It would be great. there are a whole host of actors you could use in the film from nowadays too.

that movie would be amazing if they would do it the right way

a flask back would be immpossible to do... many of cast are old or died...

the movie would be hard to do. i just wish they would turn Puzo's last efforts of a GFIV script into a book. i would love to know more about the time between Vito's revenge on Ciccio in Sicily and just before GFI (i.e Tom coming into the family, Sonny making his bones, the other war).

I hope that they would not do it. I don't think the GF3 was needed.

im not sure about having a gf4, if it was done right, id be all for it, but since mario puzo wouldnt be in on it, id have to say no...

but instead of gf4, how about having a prequil(sp??) like their doing with star wars, id prefere that to any gf4 that just had flashbacks. do the whole story based on vitos sire after killing don cicci. of course you would have to cast completly new people, i doubt people would buy it if deniro played a "young" vito.

Wouldnt be hard to do as the parts the people would play would be older, and therefore viable. I think the film would hinge on the ability of Garcia to hold down an even more major part, and I am not sure if he could.

GF3 did suck, but some scenes kicked ass.. The Atlantic City Massacre, and The Joey Zaza killing scene...

[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: Tony Montana ]

why not just let andy garcia be the new godfather.... he is begining to look like micheal in real life....

but it still wouldnt be the same rafay....

even if it isnt the same.... it will still be another installment to the godfather saga.... because the story never ended...

Because the further you get from Vito Corleone and his era, the further you get from the impact of the original Godfather story. Then what, dream up a son for Vincent to take over after him? And so on, and so on....??? It would mean absolutely nothing to depict a current-day descendant of Vito. It would be nothing more than a modern mob story. Puzo is dead. The story has ended. Let's appreciate the treasure we have. It's over.

Apple

[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: AppleOnYa ]

Could not have said it any better. It's the truth
puzo was the mastermind behind it all.

the story never ended..... just because mario puzu died doesnt mean that the legacy has to die with him

It is greedy to ask for another Godfather. It could be done but I would bet all the money I have on it being very inferior to the trilogy. I wouldnt even settle for a good Godfather film.

just dont get your hopes up on a sequel thats all i got to say about that

thats true.. it probably wont happen

Hi!

It shouldn't happen, I pray it won't: the circle is made, the story is over. What else could Puzo and Coppola tell us? I can't know.

But it's a definite mark of a piece of art that one's soul is sad to see that it all ends, and craves for more.

In fact, this long and delicious aftertaste is something to savour, to cherish, to warm to... just takes a while getting used to it.

But Coppola didn't say "no".

Best regards.

Alexander

The legacy never died, it lives on, particularly through boards like this one ... that is why it's a legacy. But the story itself DID end, in the only way it could - with the death of Michael Corleone.



That's absolutely true!! It's good that we crave more, but it would not be good if we got it, because what we do have is just enough. Hopefully, FFC will pay homage to the old show biz saying,..."Always leave 'em wanting more."

Apple

The Godfather Part IV would be overkill. I like the trilogy as it is, and even GFII was on the edge (although some people think it was over).

Who would write it? Puzo is dead. Who would play it? Andy Garcia? That's a possibility, what would be the story? Special event to open (marriage, first communion, order of San Sebastian), some gangsters plotting against Corleone, some special event in the end (baptism, opera) where all the crooks are killed?

No, the recipe of the Godfather is good, but another more movie would be a parody on itself. Sorry for those who are in favour, but it has ended in beauty.

francis... might have something to say... i mean we didnt know what he wanted to say in the other gf....

any body else

I don't consider Micheal to be the godfather. And Vincent never was nor will he ever be Godfather. Vito was the Godfather Micheal and Vincent were Dons. The Godfather and The Godfather Part 2, were about Vito, even though Mike was a BIG part in the first two. FFC and Puzo think the same way, GF3 wasn't Godfather because Vito was the godfather, and since Vito wasn't in it it wasn't godfather, they wanted it to be Death of Micheal Corleone. A later-on-in-life spinoff. Vincent never even MET the Godfather. So he has nothing to do with Godfather.

I think a spin-off would be cool tho. Did puzo actually write a GF4 script?

i think he wrote half of it...

any body else

Beacause Paramount owns all the rights to the movies, couldnt they just decide one day to make a GF4 whether FFC wanted to or not? They could just hire a new director and writers. Or does Coppola have any say at all?

I didnt read every single reply but there is an unauthorized Godfather prequel film. I dont know whats the title but the main character is Vito Corleones father, a freedom fighter, and ends with a cop. Its an independent film they were showing in San Francisco.

I'm curious to see what they do with Omerta as a movie. I know it wouldn't be a Godfather 4....but indirectly I suppose it'd be a sequel...set in our time. The Family trying to fold into legitimate society.
I reiterate that to do a Godfather 4 would be a bad idea...since Mario isn't around anymore. Not that I wouldn't like to see a Godfather 4...just don't know if the feel would be the same.

I wih they'd turn GF4 script into book too. MP's daughter could finish off.

Somebody came up with the perfect title "The Godfather: The Lost Years". What a great Title!

Circumstances leading up to Antonio Andolini's death.
Genco Olive Oil's rise to the Corleone Family after Don Ciccio is assassinated.
Roth, Greene, Ola, Vito run molasses from Havana to Canada.
Moe Greene frontiers Las Vegas.
Sonny finds Tom.
Vito meets Luca.
Luca meets Johnny's bandleader.
Corleone Family moves to Long Island.
Clemenza's troubles with the Rosato brothers.
Las Vegas: Lucy Mancini and Jules Segal. Francesco Molinari teaches Fredo about gambling.
Fredo meets Deanna Dunn.
Tom Hagen's death.
Micheal's last years as Don in the 1970's.
The new Five Families: Albert Volpe, Frank Romano, Leo Cuneo, Marty Parisi, and Willi Cicci.
Rise of Joey Zasa, and Vincent Mancini.
Vincent Mancini continues the Family up to 1997 when Micheal dies, then its OVER, make sure the movie answers ALL of our questions.

that would be a good read

I think I might have mentioned it before, but far more interesting than the Sonny/Vincent parallel storyline would be a look at how and why Michael changed between Parts II and III.

Of course, this would be nigh on impossible from an artistic point of view (but then, who could have thought Part II could out-do Part I?), but it makes for a fascinating hypothesis.

You could be far more inventive coming up with a script for Part IV using the Sonny and Vincent idea, but the period between 1959 and 1979 needs to be insanely complex, mature and sophisticated. It would perhaps need to be better then the Part II script to be as successful, given what it has to acheive.

[ February 03, 2002: Message edited by: persiangodfather ]

Sermanni, I wholeheartedly agree. Something tells me that each additional Godfather installment would follow the downward spiral pattern. That means that GF4 would be worse than GF3. But what do I know?

Well, I think somebody won't be casted again just in case. Oh wait a minute, she was shot, what else can be worse? hehehe

Bravo, PersianGodfather, exactly what i was going to say, the two years in between Gf1 and GF2 Nevada would be a possible mini-series with Clemenza and Rosatos and such. Not even anhour of film even. But as gor the post, If you read the book, you already know what happens between 1925 and 1945. What we DON'T know, where FFC or anybody else could create a whole new story is 1960-1978. THe Corleone children grow up, Tom Hagen dies, Joey Zasa rises to the top, Michael gets VERY old, THIS is a way to make a WHOLE NEW story, without it being another modern mob movie, post-1980.

Oops, if we can't NOT CAST the OBVIOUS choice (Sofia), let's do classic Paramount, and NOT cast Andy Garcia!!!

Part of the script has been made, I think.

Perhaps Puzo's daughter could finish it.
Or maybe Omerta could be mix in some way with the script already made by puzo

Vincent Corleone instead of Astorre?? What do you think? Just ideas, I'm not trying to convince you.

Cheers

I don't think Puzo had ANY say over the Sicilian movie.

Oops, if we can't NOT CAST the OBVIOUS choice (Sofia), let's do classic Paramount, and NOT cast Andy Garcia!!![/b][/quote]As long as Leonardo DiCrapio doesn't play Anthony.