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Rats who were actually killed...

Posted By: Liggio

Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 08:12 AM

People always love to say that rats never get killed, but evidence suggests otherwise. It's rare, but it does happen. Here's a few:

Joseph Barboza - Patriarca - 1976

Frank Lagano - Lucchese - 2007

Mario Riccobene - Bruno - 1993

James Bulger - Winter Hill - 2018

Bonanno rat Joseph D'Amico didn't get killed, but he got his ass kicked in 2016. Any others? These are the ones I can think of right offhand.
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 08:20 AM

Gino DiPietro was accused of being a cooperator. It may not have been the reason for his murder though
Posted By: Giacalone

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 08:21 AM

You also have Willie Boy Johnson and Frank Hydell
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
People always love to say that rats never get killed, but evidence suggests otherwise. It's rare, but it does happen. Here's a few:

Joseph Barboza - Patriarca - 1976

Frank Lagano - Lucchese - 2007

Mario Riccobene - Bruno - 1993

James Bulger - Winter Hill - 2018

Bonanno rat Joseph D'Amico didn't get killed, but he got his ass kicked in 2016. Any others? These are the ones I can think of right offhand.


Joseph Rossi - Gambino informant killed by informant Nicholas "Nicky Skins" Stefanelli after he blamed him for snitching him out February 24th, 2012.
The real story is that Stefanelli become a rat for save his son from a lenghty sentence for drug and Rossi was who ratted on Stefanelli son.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 02:14 PM

Lucchese soldier Eugenio Giannini in 1952, though it may have not been the reason.
Posted By: jace

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 03:10 PM

I see that list and think of Bulger, who was never going to be killed if they had not put him in a row of cells next to guys who wanted him dead, then left him unattended. I usually never believe in conspiracy theories, but that one looked like a complete set up.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Lucchese soldier Eugenio Giannini in 1952, though it may have not been the reason.


Liggio, Gene Giannini was specifically killed because the NY mob found out he was an informant for the "junk" agents. In fact, Charlie Luciano himself was the one who sent back word to America about him.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 08:20 PM

So Furio, did Nicky Skins kill Rossi for ratting out his son?
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 08:22 PM

You're welcome Liggio. No problem. lol
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 08:24 PM

Thanks NYM, my apologies
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/28/23 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Thanks NYM, my apologies


No doubt. You are very welcome Liggio.
Posted By: Millspgh

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by jace
I see that list and think of Bulger, who was never going to be killed if they had not put him in a row of cells next to guys who wanted him dead, then left him unattended. I usually never believe in conspiracy theories, but that one looked like a complete set up.


From what I read, the weeks and months leading up to Bulger being transferred there, he was being incredibly rude and mean to nurses trying to treat him and then prison guards.
So he was being transferred around due to his sudden behavior change.
Almost as if he was over it and was ready to but put out of his misery, he had lived long enough and his health was not good.
He was warned about his behavior and he kept it up so wardens had no choice but to move him around, so he wound up where he wound up.
Nobody is crying over him that’s for sure
Posted By: jace

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by Millspgh
Originally Posted by jace
I see that list and think of Bulger, who was never going to be killed if they had not put him in a row of cells next to guys who wanted him dead, then left him unattended. I usually never believe in conspiracy theories, but that one looked like a complete set up.


From what I read, the weeks and months leading up to Bulger being transferred there, he was being incredibly rude and mean to nurses trying to treat him and then prison guards.
So he was being transferred around due to his sudden behavior change.
Almost as if he was over it and was ready to but put out of his misery, he had lived long enough and his health was not good.
He was warned about his behavior and he kept it up so wardens had no choice but to move him around, so he wound up where he wound up.
Nobody is crying over him that’s for sure


Not crying, but come on, many inmates misbehave, worse than what you describe. I hate Bulger, but it seems like a set up. What do you mean they had no choice, they have the entire federal prison system at their disposal. They could have placed him anywhere. They put him near a guy who wanted him dead, they made it known he was there, then left him unguarded with his cell dood unlocked.
Posted By: jace

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 04:06 AM

Ernest Rupolo, not a made member but a guy who ratted on a few, he was killed and dumped in the river.
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 04:49 AM

They don't have to be made, organized crime members and associates, hell, even members of other organizations. It's all fair game.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 06:54 AM

Willie Bioff 1952

Henry LaKey 1971

Louis Bombacino 1975

Emil Vaci 1986
Posted By: streetbossliborio

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 07:18 AM

Frank bompenseiro - in California late 70s. LA family

Alfredo santantonio NY early 60s. Gambino


dominick remo cersani (If true) NY early 60s. Colombo

Wasn’t Tommy desimonne brother whacked for ratting?
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Liggio
So Furio, did Nicky Skins kill Rossi for ratting out his son?


Yes and after he went to a hotel an made suicide.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 07:56 AM

The important thing is that after the 2000 only few rats was killed because the mob dont think that to kill a rat after the damages he it made worth any attention from the media and law enforcement.
Riccobene was killed in 1993 and now D'amico was only beaten up.
The rats walk in the old hoods without fearing anything.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Toodoped
Willie Bioff 1952

Henry LaKey 1971

Louis Bombacino 1975

Emil Vaci 1986



I also forgot to mention Charlie Gio 1954 (allegedly gave info to the immigration bureau regarding Ricca's alien status)

Alex Louis Greenberg 1955 (gave sensitive information during the Hollywood Extrotion trials)
Posted By: Liggio

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 11:34 AM

Furio, Frank Lagano was killed in 2007, but I think he's the only one. So Nicky Skins killed himself after his deed? Fuck that I would've celebrated.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/29/23 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Furio, Frank Lagano was killed in 2007, but I think he's the only one. So Nicky Skins killed himself after his deed? Fuck that I would've celebrated.


And Joseph Rossi that was killed by another rat and maybe Gino DiPietro both in 2012.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/30/23 01:37 AM

Little Joe Napolitano and Big John Jannoni, made men in the Patriarca crime family. In 1978, they were found wrapped up in a car and shot three times each in the head. Napolitano was outed as an FBI informant in a recent trial.
Posted By: mike68

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/30/23 01:38 AM

The rogue FBI agent, John Connolly in Boston, got a few informants killed by Bulger and Flemmi. Brian O'Halloran and John McIntyre for starters.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/30/23 03:29 AM

Murder Inc.'s Abraham (Kid Twist) Reles was thrown out of a window at Coney Island's "Half Moon Hotel" because he was a rat.

Brooklyn hoods Peter La Tempa and Ernest (Ernie the Hawk) Rupolo both turned on Vito Genovese in a murder case and later got killed for it.

Nightclub owner Conrad Greaves got killed for info he was providing to the Queens DA's office against Genovese capo Pasquale (Patty Mac) Macchiarole.

Etc., Etc., Etc....there are plenty of cases where mob informants got killed for their "verbal" indiscretions.
Posted By: Iceveins

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/30/23 04:38 AM

The list of suspected rats who were killed or people who they feared would cooperate, is likely a longer list than the actual rats who were killed.
Posted By: Toodoped

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/30/23 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Iceveins
The list of suspected rats who were killed or people who they feared would cooperate, is likely a longer list than the actual rats who were killed.


I personally agree although killing around 15 rats (only the ones who publicly testified or were uncovered for giving out specific info) during a 50/60 years period, its not that bad especially when we speak about the Americanized Italian Mafia.....Chicago killed at least 6 or 7 public rats in a 30 year period or from the 1950s until the 1980s (only God knows how many rats they killed before that) and so if we add the rest of the families, I think they have a good number for such "ancient" secretive organization.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/30/23 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Liggio
Furio, Frank Lagano was killed in 2007, but I think he's the only one. So Nicky Skins killed himself after his deed? Fuck that I would've celebrated.


He killed himself because he was also working with the FBI.
Posted By: Hollander

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/30/23 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by Iceveins
The list of suspected rats who were killed or people who they feared would cooperate, is likely a longer list than the actual rats who were killed.


I personally agree although killing around 15 rats (only the ones who publicly testified or were uncovered for giving out specific info) during a 50/60 years period, its not that bad especially when we speak about the Americanized Italian Mafia.....Chicago killed at least 6 or 7 public rats in a 30 year period or from the 1950s until the 1980s (only God knows how many rats they killed before that) and so if we add the rest of the families, I think they have a good number for such "ancient" secretive organization.


William Morris ("Willie") Bioff was blown up, who were the others?
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/31/23 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Liggio
Furio, Frank Lagano was killed in 2007, but I think he's the only one. So Nicky Skins killed himself after his deed? Fuck that I would've celebrated.


He killed himself because he was also working with the FBI.


Yes,for save his son,I also said it.
Posted By: Captbony1999

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/31/23 06:50 PM

Talking about RATS who did Michael Franzese kill or info about his involvement in murder?
Posted By: Malavita

Re: Rats who were actually killed... - 10/31/23 07:37 PM

No one. He has never personally killed anyone.

As for the murders he was involved in, there is the killing of his best friend Larry "Champagne" Carrozza. He had an affair with Franzese's sister, who was married.
Michael Franzese didn't mind but i guess it was too much for the Colombo family who could not tolerate that one of their associate was having an affair with a woman who was respectively the daughter and the sister of two made guys. Franzese was not part of the hit team but he knew that Carrozza was going to be killed.

Franzese was en earner but never a killer. Nothing wrong with that as far as the Mob are concerned. The Colombo family had enough killers to do the job.
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