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Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000

Posted By: NYMafia

Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/12/22 08:05 PM

A Federal Judge just ruled that reputed Colombo boss Thomas (Tommy Shots) Gioeli cannot keep the $250,000 settlement he was awarded from the Federal Bureau of Prisons after a fall playing Ping-Pong in a prison Rec-Room.

He must fork it over to pay restitution to his victims as part of his conviction sentence.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/12/22 08:47 PM

Sounds fair. How did he end up with a settlement in the first place?

If I had to guess I'd guess denial of proper medical care afterwards...
Posted By: jace

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/12/22 09:05 PM

Isn't he dying of cancer? They really want to punish him beyond normal boundaries.$ 250,000 for a fall is too much, but most lawsuits and settlements are out of wack with reason.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/12/22 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Isn't he dying of cancer? They really want to punish him beyond normal boundaries.$ 250,000 for a fall is too much, but most lawsuits and settlements are out of wack with reason.


He shattered his kneecap by slipping on a wet puddle on the rec floor by the ping pong table. That was the basis for the suit
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 01:07 AM

I'd bet the house that it will be just as hard for the victims families to get that money from the feds....Guaranteed
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
I'd bet the house that it will be just as hard for the victims families to get that money from the feds....Guaranteed


Even worse, they'll probably go into their own pockets trying to get it and end up racking up expenses and still get nothing.
Posted By: jace

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 04:12 PM

Tommy Gioeli is dying in prison and maybe soon, so it is more of a case of vindictiveness from the government. They won't even let him out to die at home, or get medical attention he is not going to get n prison. Anyone who thinks along the lines of "Well, let him suffer" has to keep in mind he tortured no one. Our own government is into torture, making thyme worse than the Mafia. Perscio was blind and crippled, they would not let him go home. Gotti was dying a slow painful death (Which makes some sickos here happy) and they would not let him go home to die. Same now for Gioeli.
Posted By: Jimmybrown

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 09:55 PM

Karma is a bitch, you go to sleep with dogs and you wake up with flees. The feds are the dogs in this case and we all know you reap what you sow. Enough of the metaphorical bullshit, reegardless of your status on the street, made, paid, what ever it's all a facade, which will lead you to situations were you will die a slow and painful death.
Posted By: Big_Tuna93

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 09:59 PM

Hell, Vic Orena has alzheimers so badly, he allegedly thought at one point he was the POTUS. And the feds still won't let him out. At some point, these guys pose no threat, and should be allowed to at least be cared for by their families in their final days.
Posted By: MafiaStudent

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Tuna93
Hell, Vic Orena has alzheimers so badly, he allegedly thought at one point he was the POTUS. And the feds still won't let him out. At some point, these guys pose no threat, and should be allowed to at least be cared for by their families in their final days.


Bobby Manna is another one.
Posted By: azguy

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 10:59 PM

where are the woke people crying for compassion, these are old men that could be sent home to die with their families or get proper medical care.

I doubt they will be hanging in social clubs at their age
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/13/22 11:08 PM

People are sent to prison AS punishment not FOR punishment. Our prison system needs a serious overhaul and has for decades.

However, it is not in any way vindictive by the government to take this money and apply it to his restitution. That verdict came from a jury, that's why he owes in the first place.

This guy was a career criminal involved in how many murders? At least one innocent was killed that's known. No way in hell he or any of these guys should get out just because they are old or sick. They should serve their sentences.

They deserve no sympathy and certainly no early release. What compassion did he show to the innocent person who was murdered?
Posted By: jace

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by alicecooper
People are sent to prison AS punishment not FOR punishment. Our prison system needs a serious overhaul and has for decades.

However, it is not in any way vindictive by the government to take this money and apply it to his restitution. That verdict came from a jury, that's why he owes in the first place.

This guy was a career criminal involved in how many murders? At least one innocent was killed that's known. No way in hell he or any of these guys should get out just because they are old or sick. They should serve their sentences.

They deserve no sympathy and certainly no early release. What compassion did he show to the innocent person who was murdered?


He did not intentionally kill any innocent people, there was a civilian killed by accident by his guys, and he was quoted or caught on tape regretting it. What they are doing to him and others is torture, over a prolonged period of time.
Posted By: jace

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by azguy
where are the woke people crying for compassion, these are old men that could be sent home to die with their families or get proper medical care.

I doubt they will be hanging in social clubs at their age


If he was Black or of another non-white group they would be there. If he had declared a few years ago that he was transgender, and made his blog about that, the woke crowd would have him out by now. If he was Black bubble- butt Kardashian would have asked Trump to pardon him, and Trump would have probably done it.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 08:10 AM

Shows how prejudice the system is against Italians.

I don’t know what he was thinking he should have waited until he came home to sue
He would have had a better chance of the D.A. not noticing.

When do we get our REPARATIONS.

Other nationalities that take sports book NEVER GET PINCHED…
What you think the Chinese don’t have bookies in their communities?

The GREEKS don’t gamble anymore or lend out money?
When they do it with Italians they get caught up.

When they take action without Italians involved they NEVER get pinched.

They never should have whacked Joe Colombo he was onto something.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 08:10 AM

Larry Hoover is jailed from 1973 and so other hispanic bosses the difference is that the mafia is always on the spotlights while the other organizations not.
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 08:58 AM

I may be wrong, but the difference is that Mafia had done a LOT more than sports books and lending out money. Mafia infiltrated hundreds of businesses across the US and had a stronghold in unions, casinos, etc, which gave the Federal Government a hard-on for them. I mean, the RICO was created for the mafia specifically.

That being said, when you look at other races (African American specifically), while I agree things are getting a bit out of hand with criminals asking for a free pass based on race alone, you can't deny they've had to endure some hardships. I've never heard of an Italian, Irish, or Greek teenager being shot for walking in a certain neighborhood or being choked to death on the street, beaten to death on the street, or having the cops bust into their apartment and shoot at them for basically no reason. So it's not like other races are just walking around doing whatever they want, and nothing is being done about it.

Stanley "Tookie" Williams got a lethal injection for killing 4 people during 2 robberies; as Furio had mentioned, Larry Hoover has been in jail since 1973. Mexican Mafia member Rene Enriquez gave the DOC and FBI a TON of information on the way MM operates. He had been a crucial part for years in fighting against MM, and he's being denied parole every time he goes in front of a parole board. On the other hand, Sammy Gravano got to move to Arizona and involve his family in a drug ring after being directly involved in 19 murders.

Again, I think because of the Mafia's influence in the USA's history (which is unlike any other organization in the history of the US), the FBI is always going to treat them differently than other criminals, to an extent. It also depends on the crime they get busted for.
Posted By: jace

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 03:33 PM

Cleanbandit Gravano ratted, the is why he got that deal, you left that very important point out. You never heard of Greeks and Irish and others attacked or shot by Blacks because it happens but is not reported as a race crime, if it is reported at all. Look up
Jeremy Mardis, the little boy shot dead by Black cops. Maybe you live in another country, or only watch certain news channels, but White people have long been targets.


You mention Larry Hoover, sure, there are some like him who don't get out, but all thrones getting out on pardons are minorities, and very rarely if at all does an elderly mobster get out, They can have cancer, be paralyzed, and senile, They are kept locked up. If you give the 2 or 3 who were released, but then list the hundred who weren't.
Posted By: jace

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 03:39 PM

here is a video of Jeremy Mardis for cleanbandit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUxtTBC2hps
Posted By: Goldy

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by CleanBandit
I've never heard of an Italian, Irish, or Greek teenager being shot for walking in a certain neighborhood or being choked to death on the street, beaten to death on the street, or having the cops bust into their apartment and shoot at them for basically no reason. So it's not like other races are just walking around doing whatever they want, and nothing is being done about it.



Yeah, you've "never heard of it" because it's done on purpose to push certain narratives in this country non-stop. You also never hear when the victim is white and the perpetrator is black, which is the overwhelmingly vast majority of the time and happens x10000 to "cops killing black people for basically no reason". Wonder why? There were something like 14 black folks killed by cops that year we had all the "peaceful protesting" in all the (D) utopias across the country for 9 months that caused billions of dollars in damages, thousands of cops injured and dozens killed. Of course the media loves to paint the same kind of false picture you did, even when *almost every single time it's "fight, flee, resist" on a call where the person that ends up dead 100% kicked off and escalated the series of events that led to their demise. Of course that part doesn't come out until after the initial lying by omission on purpose story and by then the damage is done.

I have a friend whose 16 year old son was shot twice and died a week before Christmas last year. Was a huge news story here because he was from a very small town and it was just a random shooting at a stoplight. When they identified the shooter as a multiple time 21 year old black felon and he was a 16 year old white kid, the story completely vanished from the news. His mom had a balloon release ceremony at a local park and she turned the camera around in the parking lot to show that not one representative from the local news, the papers or anyone showed up that she had called as she was trying to get the word out on her son's killer so he could get arrested. Zero interest in covering the story and that person hasn't been caught yet. Think they'd bury that story if the victim was a 16 black kid that was shot by a 21 year old white felon who had been arrested at 19 for shooting at someone with a stolen pistol (luckily in that instance jammed after the initial shots), ran from the cops in a high speed chase, was caught by the cops with the stolen pistol in the stolen car and he did zero jail time other than county awaiting trial? Dude was free enough 2 years later to be sitting shotgun in a car with another stolen gun and this time mortally wounded a 16 year old kid who crashed his car trying to get away and died alone before the cops showed up. Obviously no mention of it being a hate crime when the races are reversed either, right? Right.

We're supposed to be worried about some geriatric mobster getting out of prison? He going to be going around shooting 16 year old kids?
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Shows how prejudice the system is against Italians.

I don’t know what he was thinking he should have waited until he came home to sue
He would have had a better chance of the D.A. not noticing.

When do we get our REPARATIONS.

Other nationalities that take sports book NEVER GET PINCHED…
What you think the Chinese don’t have bookies in their communities?

The GREEKS don’t gamble anymore or lend out money?
When they do it with Italians they get caught up.

When they take action without Italians involved they NEVER get pinched.

They never should have whacked Joe Colombo he was onto something.




This is pure fucking comedy gold ^^^.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Shows how prejudice the system is against Italians.

I don’t know what he was thinking he should have waited until he came home to sue
He would have had a better chance of the D.A. not noticing.

When do we get our REPARATIONS.

Other nationalities that take sports book NEVER GET PINCHED…
What you think the Chinese don’t have bookies in their communities?

The GREEKS don’t gamble anymore or lend out money?
When they do it with Italians they get caught up.

When they take action without Italians involved they NEVER get pinched.

They never should have whacked Joe Colombo he was onto something.




This is pure fucking comedy gold ^^^.


It may be a comedy, but its a bad comedy that does have validity to it, and unfortunately the joke's on the Italian people, despite what some on here might say or think to the contrary.
Posted By: dsd

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 07:39 PM

It's funny to me when I see a comment about Democrats party from some on the right. ie mocking places as a Democrat city utopia etc. As from what I see is that the richest and better states/ cities are Democrat run.
**don't mean better run just better economies and ' things to see and do.


Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 10:03 PM

You mean like California, Oregon and New York
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 10:05 PM

Those are the biggest shit holes in America.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/14/22 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
Those are the biggest shit holes in America.


To be fair, they are states loaded with beautiful countryside. It's only when you go where the people are that they become the biggest shit holes in America.

At the very least, we can throw chicago in there.

Dsd, I'm not going to give you a lesson on American history. It's already been written countless times. You just need to use logic when you look at the history of this country and why things are the way they are. NONE of the answers are politically correct.

In the year 2022, every large city that is run by liberals is a fucking dumpster fire. Chicago, NYC, all of California, Philly, DC, Baltimore, Minneapolis, Detroit, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Portland, Seattle and on and on.
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 06:17 AM

I cannot believe "TOMMY SHOTS" is coming home.

What is REALLY REALLY FUCT up....

Is that everyone that was in on the Murder of a cop, Wild Bill, and a few others, is home now or is about to be home in a years time, one way or another except for Lil Dino.

Joel Waverly (Boss) is Home.
Tommy Shots (Street Boss) Will be home in a year.
Joe Caves (Solider) is Home.
Big Dino (Captain) is Home.
Sebby Saricino (Solider)
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 11:49 AM

Quote
I've never heard of an Italian, Irish, or Greek teenager being shot for walking in a certain neighborhood or being choked to death on the street, beaten to death on the street, or having the cops bust into their apartment and shoot at them for basically no reason.


Did you type this while intoxicated? Or is it bait?

If you were honest that please PM me:

I own a bridge in Brooklyn, I can sell it to you for 10 grand.
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 12:05 PM

No need to taunt me with the comments. I'm not from the US, and the information here is pretty limited as to what's happening in the US. I'm personally not interested enough to do deep dives on the web for hours to find every murder case and beating case.

It was my opinion, and as you may have seen at the very start of my post, I wrote the words "I may be wrong" since it's not my area of expertise.

As Goldy had pointed out, there have been other cases that he knows about personally, so Luan if you wish so please provide more in the recent history (last 20-30 years) that would back up your claims.
Posted By: LuanKuci

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 03:01 PM

The horrific events Goldy wrote about are so sadly common that it infuriates me being told to “back up my claims” by someone who admits not to care enough to document himself in the first place, on top of not even living in this country but still having the nerve to weigh in our domestic issues.

Not a week goes by that something like that doesn’t happen. And more. People getting jumped in their own driveway in the middle of the day and shot. Businesses being vandalized on a weekly basis for months until they fold. I could easily get killed if I step in the wrong area in my city. Savages and bad cops alike have knocked out for “fun”, robbed, shot, harassed people I know and that happens everyday nation-wide regardless of skin color. You don’t have to “check every murder and beating case” in the “deep web” to know that. Local news, certain social media feeds are filled of them. Some events that fit a certain narrative are selected to be given an echo by major news outlets, but the rest is still there to be seen by those who care.

If you don’t want to be called out then don’t share your half-assed opinions about topics you admittedly know nothing about and are not much interested in, demanding others to hold your hand and walk you out of your ignorance. That’s so childish.
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by CleanBandit
I may be wrong, but the difference is that Mafia had done a LOT more than sports books and lending out money. Mafia infiltrated hundreds of businesses across the US and had a stronghold in unions, casinos, etc, which gave the Federal Government a hard-on for them. I mean, the RICO was created for the mafia specifically.

That being said, when you look at other races (African American specifically), while I agree things are getting a bit out of hand with criminals asking for a free pass based on race alone, you can't deny they've had to endure some hardships. I've never heard of an Italian, Irish, or Greek teenager being shot for walking in a certain neighborhood or being choked to death on the street, beaten to death on the street, or having the cops bust into their apartment and shoot at them for basically no reason. So it's not like other races are just walking around doing whatever they want, and nothing is being done about it.

Stanley "Tookie" Williams got a lethal injection for killing 4 people during 2 robberies; as Furio had mentioned, Larry Hoover has been in jail since 1973. Mexican Mafia member Rene Enriquez gave the DOC and FBI a TON of information on the way MM operates. He had been a crucial part for years in fighting against MM, and he's being denied parole every time he goes in front of a parole board. On the other hand, Sammy Gravano got to move to Arizona and involve his family in a drug ring after being directly involved in 19 murders.

Again, I think because of the Mafia's influence in the USA's history (which is unlike any other organization in the history of the US), the FBI is always going to treat them differently than other criminals, to an extent. It also depends on the crime they get busted for.


In response to your second paragraph: the USA is currently at a level of propaganda not seen since Hitler. You have to live here to even be able to see the truth. It's sickening. I'm not into politics, but the simple truth is that about 85% of the mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the Democrat party. Fascism and radicalism control the media and the narrative in this country.

I basically agree with the rest of your post.
Posted By: jace

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 04:03 PM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-object-three-black-passengers-bus.html
Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 05:32 PM



Yup. This shit happens everyday, all across the country. Amazing how the story is from a foreign paper, huh?

Highly unlike it will be publicized by US main stream (left wing) media. And even if they're caught the charge will be reduced or dropped.

Safe to say we're way off topic now.
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/15/22 05:37 PM

Luan, I'm pretty sure that you were raised better than to take jabs at someone for stating an opinion (not a fact, but an opinion which started with "I may be wrong").

That being said, other respectful posters have pointed out cases that proved my opinion is not fully correct. Not entirely sure why we have to stoop down to being disrespectful immediately; I didn't personally attack anyone on the board nor did I say anything extraordinarily disrespectful in general.

But yeah, alicecooper I agree, way, way off topic which is why I'll pull back from this thread entirely.
Posted By: NYMafia

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/16/22 08:53 AM

Guys, why don't you both just take a big step back and chill out. WTF? Who cares about this baby bullshit argument.

Why don't you stay on the subject matter of this thread. Be more respectful of your fellow posters on this forum.
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/16/22 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by alicecooper
Originally Posted by DiLorenzo
I'd bet the house that it will be just as hard for the victims families to get that money from the feds....Guaranteed


Even worse, they'll probably go into their own pockets trying to get it and end up racking up expenses and still get nothing.


You're right !!!
Posted By: DiLorenzo

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/16/22 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Tuna93
Hell, Vic Orena has alzheimers so badly, he allegedly thought at one point he was the POTUS. And the feds still won't let him out. At some point, these guys pose no threat, and should be allowed to at least be cared for by their families in their final days.


And that's not a Junior Soprano move....A friend of mine's m.i.l. years back had alzheimers and she thought the governor was delivering her mail to her
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/18/22 08:34 AM

I wonder if the only reason they can do this to him is because he is still in prison?
When you are in prison you don’t have rights under the constitution of the USA, you are a ward of the state/fed govt.

I know plenty of people that had to pay restitution and out of all of them just ONE ever paid all of it back.
When he got out was making big money and because of the restitution order he took his income under his wife’s name and the feds came in and said either you the $3MM you owe or we are going to indict your wife and within a few years he paid in full.

Everyone else would send ina few dollars here and there and that’s it.

Posted By: alicecooper

Re: Colombo figure Tommy Shots Gioeli loses $250,000 - 07/19/22 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
I wonder if the only reason they can do this to him is because he is still in prison?
When you are in prison you don’t have rights under the constitution of the USA, you are a ward of the state/fed govt.

I know plenty of people that had to pay restitution and out of all of them just ONE ever paid all of it back.
When he got out was making big money and because of the restitution order he took his income under his wife’s name and the feds came in and said either you the $3MM you owe or we are going to indict your wife and within a few years he paid in full.

Everyone else would send ina few dollars here and there and that’s it.



That's a very good question. Maybe there are special rules because it's a lawsuit judgement that makes it easier for the owed party to attach the judgment to the money?

I've always heard that suing for small money was pointless because it was basically a full time job trying to legally collect the money. Between him being in prison and that it's attached to a criminal case, I bet that's a part of it somehow.
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