double affiliation?

If confirmed that Dom Violi is the "underboss" on behalf of the Sicilian Todaro family of Buffalo, he would be the first Canadian to fill this role for American Cosa Nostra, as well as a rare example of double affiliation: on the one hand the Sicilians, on the other the Siderno Group, an outpost of the Calabrian 'Ndrangheta in the Great Toronto Area.

Violi is not part of the Siderno group though, or at least not functionally…. His grandfather was part of the ndrangheta but the family went it’s own way. Leppino (Giacomo) was made into Buffalo already as a ndrangheta sta, so this double affiliation runs in the family…

Siderno Group is not a formal structure though just a name LE uses.

In 1962 Giacomo Luppino and Rocco Zito founded the crimini or Camera di Controllo in Canada.

It is and it isnt't though - the società of Siderno exists both in Siderno and in Toronto, so in a way it does replicate that

'Ndrangheta families operating outside Calabria must always refer to their Locali of origin.

I wouldn't say 'must' - rather 'very likely to. Usually they refer to the clan of origin, not the locale - the locale is where they stay abroad, if formed. And indeed, the locale/società of SIDERNO exists in both Calabria and Ontario.

The theme of the "double affiliation"
Another in-depth topic was that of the double affiliation that some leading exponents of the 'Ndrangheta would also have had with the Cosa nostra. The names involved are of weight: from Paolo De Stefano to Peppeand Mommo Piromalli , up to Nino Pesce , Pino Mammoliti , Luigi Mancuso , Pino Piromalli , Nino Molè , Nino Gangemi and some of the Alvaros. “These subjects - said Bruzzese - also had a top management role in the mafia. Mommo Piromalli, who at the time was at the top of all the 'Ndrangheta in Reggio, was held in high esteem by the Palermitans Bontate and Badalamenti. For this reason they were consulted when key decisions had to be made. Also in supporting the war against the Corleonesi? Absolutely yes. And these things were not done in the presence of everyone”.
Responding to a precise question from the prosecutor Lombardo on why he does not name subjects linked to the 'Ndrangheta of the Jonica Bruzzese, he said he did not know the specific names, but that "the 'Ndrangheta is a unitary body" and that "the Jonica is linked to the Tirrenica with the Nirtas, the Commisos, the Strangios and the Morabitos who are close to the Piromallis”. During the examination, Bruzzese then mentioned the existence of a "third level" with the need to create a "new thing". “These things were told to me by Cosimo Alvaro who aspired to the office of Most Holy Mother. He was already second medalist, but he wanted to get higher ”.

More than anything I think it speaks to how depleted the pools are from which to draw recruits in the traditional sense. If Todaro's family is having to import members from across the border it's symbolic of the fact that, at least in Buffalo, gentrification and the melting pot has probably forced them to do it.

That may not be a bad thing. Changing what isn't working into something that does work may be the best path forward. Perhaps it represents a real chance at new life for the Buffalo family - to whatever extent thats possible in 21st century terms.

LCN grew originally out of Italian immigrants, and in a somewhat different way this is just a continuation of that tradition.

What do you mean import from across the border? Buffalo has always had Canadian members this is not indicative of anything.

When 'ndrangheta created the Santa which is the first dowry of the major society it was to allow the double affiliation to be 'ndranghetists and freemasons.

In Naples there is also double affiliation some Camorrists are also members of Cosa Nostra.

One would be forgiven for assuming you just come on here to be argumentative.

Asking a question isn't argumentative if you think it is you've gone too long without being questioned when you say something. It's a habit of many of you here have.

@eastsideofvan...thats the "consiglio" guy from the "The whole world is Sicilian" gang aka the feminist/junkie mafia forum from across the street... and as you already saw, he is here with a purpose just to make problems. Just ignore his posts and he will go away, or simply report his posts.

Someone is salty they got banned and keep your other forum bullshit out of this thread. I haven't done anything wrong some of you guys here just don't like being questioned after saying things that are just wrong.

Apparently asking what you meant by importing guys from across the border like it's something new Buffalo is doing is trying to start a argument.

Not at all because I did it on purpose. You are constantly having fights with people and act like you know everything and you are very disrespectful. You dont contribute anything and thats why this will be my first and last post to you. You are not worthy and you are also on a lower level than me. Cheers

Lol not my problem or fault if people get bitchy when they get questioned or called out for saying the dumbest things. Look at this here a simple question to someone else made you come in here and start some shit because I challenged your idiotic notion on Chicago a few weeks back. Let it go and move on oe take it to a private message to me instead of posting in a thread that has nothing to do with it.

Let's keep it civil here!

Ironically, the subject of my observation has proved my previous point better than I ever could have.

You can be affiliated with a whole bunch of organizations, but to be a member of more than one? It used to happen with the early Cosa Nostra, but it's very rare today

Carmelo Bruzzese is convicted in Italy as member of 'ndrangheta, but acquitted for association with the Rizzuto criminal organization.

Those Italian-to-English translations are horrendous, for example when it says, "Another in-depth topic was that of the double affiliation that some leading exponents of the 'Ndrangheta would also have had with the Cosa Nostra," when it should really read something like "Another in-depth topic was that of the double affiliation that some leading MEMBERS (not exponents) of the Ndrangheta HAVE (simply have, not would have had) with Cosa Nostra (not THE Cosa Nostra, drop the word THE)

You're right, but you can figure out what they mean you can also learn Italian lol.

It still happens Sicilians made in Sicily, but also members of Bonannos or Gambinos.