What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/23/2201:54 AM
Not a movie, but a mini series or full fledged tv show ala Narcos?
Myself….
Scarfo’s rise and fall
The rise of Carlo Gambino in the 1930s and whatever we know of his first ten years as Boss
Gemini Lounge. Could be a sleazy as all hell and gruesome show. Add in DiB since he was into porno with DeMeo, DiB is interesting in and of himself for the Geraldine Ferraro connection
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/23/2207:07 AM
Just take the whole book "Blood & Honor" and make a movie out of it......Scorsese would or (could have) a field day w/ that one....also.".The Plumber" ..Vincent Falcone's story would be an interesting flick..
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/23/2201:03 PM
A series on The Outfit, starting with Accardo becoming boss running through Mo Mo getting hit in the basement.
Honorable mention-
1- Philadelphia- from Bruno getting hit through scarfo being convicted.
2- a series on Pittsburgh & Cleveland families beginning in 60s running through their war for Youngstown in the 70s & 80s to the big Pittsburgh mob trial of 1990. Cleveland’s big convictions came in the early 80s I believe.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/23/2202:54 PM
Any one of those would be good, I just wish they would do it right, accurately as possible, and have the right cast. I don't want to see John Leguizamo as Gotti or Tyler Perry as Joey Merlino.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/24/2212:20 AM
Originally Posted by Turnbull
Moe Dalitz--father of Vegas, the ultimate legitimized gangster.
There is a transcript of a 1964 conversation between Dalitz and the late heavyweight boxing champion Sonny Liston. “If you hit me, ni**er, you’d better kill me,” Dalitz is quoted as saying, “because if you don’t, I’ll make just one telephone call and you’ll be dead in 24 hours.”.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/24/2201:20 AM
Originally Posted by Turnbull
Moe Dalitz--father of Vegas, the ultimate legitimized gangster.
Excellent choice. Maybe people don't realize that back in his time Moe Dalitz was a two hoodlum. He and his Jewish-based mob ran a very lucrative crew, referred to as "The Little Jewish Navy" for their successful exploits as rum runners and bootleggers hauling branded booze in from over the Great Lakes in Canada to supply Cleveland and vicinity,
He cleaned hissed up real good after they made their investments into Vegas. After years out front he became a revered, respected businessman.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/24/2210:50 PM
Originally Posted by Friend_of_Henry
Pittsburgh Mob, wasn't that the Mob that was run for decades with only an under boss? lolol
I would love to see any Pittsburgh story FOH because I’m biased, so I picked the Pgh-Cleveland Youngstown war era because I think any fan of that genre would find that interesting.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/24/2211:50 PM
Originally Posted by Millspgh
Originally Posted by Friend_of_Henry
Pittsburgh Mob, wasn't that the Mob that was run for decades with only an under boss? lolol
I would love to see any Pittsburgh story FOH because I’m biased, so I picked the Pgh-Cleveland Youngstown war era because I think any fan of that genre would find that interesting.
Ya never know fellas, ya just never know...anythings possible ;-)
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/25/2205:56 AM
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Turnbull
Moe Dalitz--father of Vegas, the ultimate legitimized gangster.
Excellent choice. Maybe people don't realize that back in his time Moe Dalitz was a two hoodlum. He and his Jewish-based mob ran a very lucrative crew, referred to as "The Little Jewish Navy" for their successful exploits as rum runners and bootleggers hauling branded booze in from over the Great Lakes in Canada to supply Cleveland and vicinity,
He cleaned hissed up real good after they made their investments into Vegas. After years out front he became a revered, respected businessman.
Dalitz cleaned up in more ways than one. He was drafted in WWII and ended up as a captain in the Army--organized and ran laundries. You can see his commendation from the Army in the Mob Museum in Vegas.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/25/2208:45 AM
They could do a Godfather-style show on Vito Rizzuto, from his immigration all the way to his death. Oh and show the part where he teamed up with other Mafiosi in Sicily to invest in a $6 billion bridge connecting mainland Italy to Sicily to launder money. About how he was revered all over the world. I was disappointed in that show Bad Blood, what a failure, they didn't do Rizzuto any justice.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 04/30/2202:26 AM
Originally Posted by Liggio
They could do a Godfather-style show on Vito Rizzuto, from his immigration all the way to his death. Oh and show the part where he teamed up with other Mafiosi in Sicily to invest in a $6 billion bridge connecting mainland Italy to Sicily to launder money. About how he was revered all over the world. I was disappointed in that show Bad Blood, what a failure, they didn't do Rizzuto any justice.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 05/01/2210:35 AM
What are you trying to say, that because no one ever found a mountain of cash somewhere it means that they didn't have any? Your questions are impossible to answer. Reminds me of that one guy in Canada who lived in a $700-a-month apartment yet had $20 million worth of possessions inside. Or how about Francesco Del Baso, who claimed to be a poor grocery store clerk yet was somehow able to gamble away $8 million at casinos. Just because people look broke, and no one's ever found a pile of money, doesn't mean they are. I remember watching an American Justice episode on Youngstown Mafia figure Lenny Strollo, where a law enforcement agent said something like, "These people don't have any money, they may look like they have money, but they don't have any money." Yet I later discovered that due to his cooperation agreement Strollo was allowed to keep his big house and $10 million in cash. So much for pretending you know how much money underworld figures have or don't have.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 05/01/2211:00 AM
The pentito Rosario Naimo who emigrated to Detroit in 1968. According to a 2006 report of the New Jersey State Commission of Investigation, Naimo was the head of the Sicilian Mafia in the United States at the time.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 05/01/2203:01 PM
Originally Posted by Liggio
What are you trying to say, that because no one ever found a mountain of cash somewhere it means that they didn't have any? Your questions are impossible to answer. Reminds me of that one guy in Canada who lived in a $700-a-month apartment yet had $20 million worth of possessions inside. Or how about Francesco Del Baso, who claimed to be a poor grocery store clerk yet was somehow able to gamble away $8 million at casinos. Just because people look broke, and no one's ever found a pile of money, doesn't mean they are. I remember watching an American Justice episode on Youngstown Mafia figure Lenny Strollo, where a law enforcement agent said something like, "These people don't have any money, they may look like they have money, but they don't have any money." Yet I later discovered that due to his cooperation agreement Strollo was allowed to keep his big house and $10 million in cash. So much for pretending you know how much money underworld figures have or don't have.
In some cases yes. And for those either they were broke or want to look broke.
In some cases they accumulated large swaths of real estate that have been passed on to their children.
I.E. would be tje Todaro’s and their wing places, they also own strip clubs and whatever else.
Look at Jr. Gotti had to spent many millions on his 4 trials 2MM each maybe.
Still hasn’t worked a day since he left prison. Still lives in a mansion and has real estate.
Wonder what his real estate is worth.
Just one example.
The Castalleno family they own western beef and scara mix, they recently sold the White House I think.
How many millions do they have?
Would be interesting to find that out.
Something a little different than the norm stories that you read about.
What about Detroit or the Weat Side what legit businesses do they own?
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 05/01/2203:43 PM
A few got rich, most were middle class money wise, and quite a few wound up with little money. Just because a few had millions it does not mean all did. Castellano and Today may have made more money with their legit companies than they did through he mafia.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 05/01/2203:52 PM
Originally Posted by JackieAprile
Not a movie, but a mini series or full fledged tv show ala Narcos?
Myself….
Scarfo’s rise and fall
The rise of Carlo Gambino in the 1930s and whatever we know of his first ten years as Boss
Gemini Lounge. Could be a sleazy as all hell and gruesome show. Add in DiB since he was into porno with DeMeo, DiB is interesting in and of himself for the Geraldine Ferraro connection
Scarpa is prime material for a show.
Scarfo's rise and fall would be good, but I would like to see it expanded to include all that was going on in Philly back in those days. The 1980's was really out of control there.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 05/01/2206:13 PM
Oh I see what you're saying, but again it's impossible to know. And to be honest, I don't even know if I want to know. Keep it a mystery, that's what makes it interesting. These guys don't keep financial records, so a movie or show on that topic would only be questionable guesstimates anyway.
Re: What mafia story would you want to see a series of - 05/01/2206:18 PM
Jace, I would say that more than a few got rich, but even more didn't. More than a few had millions, certainly not most, maybe not even half. And Castellano made a ton of money from illegal activities, don't be fooled. Better yet, even his "legitimate" business interests were crooked and mob-infested.