How the small families get the permission to made

When the Commission was functioning while the east coast families must ask to NY to permission to made new blood,the west coast family must ask the Chicago Outfit to do the same thing?
And how the thing work? A wiseguy from LA go to Chicago with the names or the Outfit say:you can madre only 5 men?
Or the 5 families decide for all the families?

If you mean Fratianno being transferred from LA to Chicago...They wouldn't need approval from NY, for that...But all those small cities answered to Chicago, but Chicago had to answer to NY, no matter what Bill Drummond from Chicago news says...I think Fat Tony was caught on tape even saying so

Not true. Chicago didn't have to ask NY permission to add new members. Not sure what "John" Drummond says matters in any case.

Im reffering to made new members not to transfer to other family.

Understood. Chicago never answered to NY, so there was never a need to ask them for permission. I don't think cities like KC or Milwaukee needed to get permission from Chicago, but I could be wrong on that one.

Not new members, but anything big that they did had to go through NY..As an example, they couldn't kill Alan Dorfman without NY's approval

Correct. Anything that affects NYC or other crews HAS to be vetted through the Commission.

They did answer to NY, and Fat Tony was even caught on tape telling one of the western city bosses as much

I assume that was due to their common interest in the Teamsters Union.

Most likely

He's the guy that lied about being the boss, right? A random statement caught on tape might not be the most credible source.

I have ZERO knowledge on this subject.

Chicago had to get permission from N.Y.?

That doesn't sound right to me.

Maybe the commission had some say over national policy and over joint rackets etc.

I mean Chicago was LCN, however, the structure was/is different.

No way they had to get permission from NY to make guys, that makes no sense.
What would N.Y. even know about a Chicago guy to even give any input on the subject.

In NY and N.J. its different as guys were associates to multiple families at the same time
or a guy local in NYC, could have had a negative experience with a NYC family, and then crossed the bridge and try to get made in N.J. or through another NYC family.

That makes sense.

We the Bonanno's want to make Joe Schmo has anyone had a negative experiences with him?
Pass that to the 5 families

Some stuff on families getting permission/ approval from NY to make members:

- When Cleveland opened the books in the late 1970s they asked the Genovese family for permission first
- John Gotti ordered the DeCavalcante family to re-induct a significant portion of their membership in the 1980s because he was unhappy with the way they had been conducting their ceremonies
- Philadelphia continued making members while the books were closed until 1962; Angelo Bruno justified this by saying he wasn't the boss when the books were closed so he had no way of knowing (Philadelphia started making guys again in 1965 and seemingly had no problems with NY about it)
- The North Jersey crew of the Philadelphia family has historically passed a list of their proposed members to NY, though some in the crew viewed it as essential whereas others thought it was just a courtesy (they didn't pass a list of names around before the recorded ceremony in 1990; Scoops Licata was caught on tape in 2010 saying he still passes lists to the Gambino and Genovese families but not the others)
- Joey Merlino asked the Genovese family for permission to induct members from Boston in the 1990s; they said no but he made them anyway
- As a courtesy, the New Orleans family asked NY for permission to induct new members in the 1960s, though the understanding was they could do it regardless if they wanted to

I believied that the Commission after Apalachin was splitted in 2:
the east coast to NY and the west coast to Chicago.
So Detroit had to ask the outfit how many people can made but maybe I'm wrong because Cleveland after danny greene ask the Genoveses the permission and Fat Tony said that can made even 10 wiseguys.

I doubt small families like New England and Philly are asking New York for permission

I think Jimmy Fratianno reached out to Fat Tony or Funzi Tieri and Licavoli and Lonardo went to NYC
To explained to them the ongoing issues with Greene Nardi.
Then Licavoli made Calabese, Gallo, Sinito, Liberatore, and Calandra. I think Tieri even offered to
Have the Genovese even send a couple of their more capable hitters to help bury Greene Nardi.
Then Licavoli said we can take care of it.
Im curious how it was determined that it was Genoveses Family would be the family to represent
The smaller Midwest Families