Gemini twins transfer to Luchese’s

Does anyone know how the Gemini twins hooked up with the Luchese’s? We know Casso used them to kill DeMeo but how did they hook up with them?

Probably from being around the neighborhood....Roy turned down a button from the Luccheses to get with the Gambinos..Freddie DiNome was originally a Lucchese associate and Roy had to get his release...The area Roy was in was dominated by only the Gambinos and Lucchese.

The Luccheses killed DeMeo? What was the reason? I thought it was his own crime family.

The Luccheses didn't kill Roy, Paul ordered that hit

He clearly means the Gemini twins killed Roy.

He clearly said that Casso used them to kill DeMeo, which would mean that the Luccheses killed him. I know what the fuck I read.

The Gemini twins killed DeMeo while they were with the Gambinos. After the hit they got made with the Luccheses.

That was the deal between Franckie DeCicco and Anthony Casso

Thanks for the clear explanation.

Nobody in the Gambinos had the balls to try to kill Roy,especially when he understood that was on the hit list so he was betrayled and killed by his own men,given that was a good killer the luccheses inducted them and used them for kill the russian gangsters that try to export his partners in the gasoline rackets.

Why did Castellano and Decicco ask Casso who in turn asked the Gemini twins??? When Castellano could of just asked Nino Gaggi who would of had the gemini twins do it....
If Casso had the twins made after the hit, their must of been a long relationship between the twins and casso. Why would casso just decide to make 2 guys based on a hit? The twins must of been close and had a long relationship with a lucchese. Thats what im trying to find out.

The twins was tested killers under DeMeo and Casso wanted stonecoldd killers for his family; the Gambinos feared the demeo crew so no made man would try to kill Roy so was an inside job and for sure the twins understood that maybe Castellano could order to kill them so switched to Luccheses.

From the Neighboorhood. All the crews were around each other in Canarsie. Roy Demeo who was originally with the Gallos and the Colombo’s,not the Luccheses and then went to the Gambinos because he thought the Colombo’s were going to kill him(this is confirmed on a wiretap by Ralph Scopo Sr). The Testa brothers became very very close to Vic Amuso and they worked out a deal to get transferred to the Luccheses after Demeo was murdered. Also if Paul Castellano had not been murdered he was going to murder Nino Gaggi this is confirmed on Wiretaps by Sammy the Bull and John Gotti.

Louie
Do you know how the twins became “ close with Vic “ ? Was Vic with a crew in carnarsie?

Vic was heavy in Canarsie, all these guys had 6 degrees of separation. Vic was also close to Louie Beans who held sway out there, even though Vics skipper was Bensonhurst based. Canarsie was a big area for Wiseguys especially the ones that migrated from East New York Brownsville...

Uh Roy was definitely with the Lucchese's it is in murder machine. It literally says he turned down a button from the Luccheses so he could get one from the Gambinos.

That was incorrect information which probably stemmed from Dom the junkie Montiglio according to the wiretaps in the commission case he was with the Gallos and the Colombo’s I will post the transcript...

Ralph Scopo talking to James Costigan On April 5th 1984
Roy Demeo , Jimmy when i tell you the guy had cast iron balls.
Where they says he was the street enforcer. His names Roy Demeo ...
I’m telling you he had balls..... this guy used to be with the Gallos.
At that time we were havin a war all right? With the Gallos and Roy was on the Gallo side.
Then it was all squared away and peace was made, he was really supposed to come with us, but he was scared. He didn’t come with us.
Instead he went to another family and they straightened him out.. So what happened was the Gambinos eventually had the guy killed.Not over our problem but they’re own problem.
He was the one who created the problem with the cars going over and I mean he was a tough guy all right. Bein he got picked up they figure “maybe this guy under pressure he’ll rat”.
Thats bullshit! But not to take the chance, not knowin whether he would or not, they went and killed him! It’s just like what I’m doing now. Say this thing kinda blows up. I’ll be one of the first guys to get arrested.

The Lucchese Family had a huge presence on that area. Amuso.operated out of the Walnut Bar at Flatlands and E 92nd. Bruno Facciolo hq was over on Avenue D off Foster. Danny Cutaia had a club over there. Paul Vario junkyard and hangouts there.

I didnt know Vic and Casso went to prison together in the 70’s for heroin. Anyone have more details on this?

They were also indicted together for bribing prison guards at Rikers a few years before that as well

Yep. Casso also got a lead while inside about a big time Marijuana dealer down in Florida, which he, Salvatore Gravano, Bobby Amuso and two others took part in on ripping that dealer off. This was before they were made. Either Casso was out at the time or he sent word to the streets about Florida.

On Bruno Facciolo, he and one of the Twins had a verbal altercation which I believe Casso remember and when the time was right he sent his dogs, the detectives to kill Bruno. Not on that alone, but it did not help as Casso was close to the twins and Bruno was bucking the new Administration somewhat. I highly doubt that Facciolo was a rat and wanted to take over the family, he was well liked and most got along with him.

I thought Louie bagels whacked Facciolo.