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Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant

Posted By: Louiebynochi

Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 01:34 AM

https://youtu.be/s5wHn9nJXq8
Posted By: Balaclava777

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 07:51 AM

Time stamp?
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 10:57 AM

It’s @ 18:33
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 11:32 AM

I've always wondered about DiFronzo and Family secrets. Think it's time to do an FOIA request.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 12:48 PM

If he was an informant then how come he did so much time and died in prison? Something's not adding up here.
Posted By: Jshov31

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by DillyDolly
If he was an informant then how come he did so much time and died in prison? Something's not adding up here.


I agree. It makes no sense.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 02:45 PM

John Difronzo did 8 months in prison and it was reversed on appeal
What are you guys talking about a lot of prison time??
John Difronzo did 8 months or so in a 60 year career....
Posted By: Balaclava777

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by DillyDolly
If he was an informant then how come he did so much time and died in prison? Something's not adding up here.


He died free of Alzheimer’s...he didn’t do much time and he 100% did not die in prison.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/20/21 04:26 PM

Sorry guys, I had him mixed up with Joey the Clown Lombardo.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 12:32 AM

I've always been suspicious of DiFronzo. Then again Accardo didnt do any time in his 60+ year career. Maybe DiFronzo took a page out of his playbook. Took a bust on that Indian Casino deal but it got overturned on appeal. I am highly suspicious why they left him out of the Family Secrets trial. Maybe the case wasn't strong idk. If I had to guess I would say he wasn't an informant. Wtf does Red Wemmette's low level porno ass know. He was a Joey lombardo ATM. Plus he's been dead 2+ years now and I see nothing the Feds got from him. I'm going to file an FOIA request this week. Maybe before this year's out we will know for sure about No Nose/Bananas.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 12:33 AM

Speaking of The Clown here is a cameraman stalking him and Joey living up to his nickname.

https://youtu.be/C2tlSp3l00g
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
I've always been suspicious of DiFronzo. Then again Accardo didnt do any time in his 60+ year career. Maybe DiFronzo took a page out of his playbook. Took a bust on that Indian Casino deal but it got overturned on appeal. I am highly suspicious why they left him out of the Family Secrets trial. Maybe the case wasn't strong idk. If I had to guess I would say he wasn't an informant. Wtf does Red Wemmette's low level porno ass know. He was a Joey lombardo ATM. Plus he's been dead 2+ years now and I see nothing the Feds got from him. I'm going to file an FOIA request this week. Maybe before this year's out we will know for sure about No Nose/Bananas.


Tony Accardo never had anyone that was credible as an eyewitness to him talking about crimes ie Joe Hauser. Nick Calabrese was very credible and testified John Difronzo was one of the guys beating and punching Tony and Michael Spilotro.... Also why I think the Federal Govt put a lot of misinformation out there to throw people in the mob off the scent of him being an informant by leaking to the media he was the Boss...When in reality Johnny Apes was Acting Boss and then Jimmy Marcello was the Boss and Auippa until he died was the Official Boss all according to Nick Calabrese the first and only Made Member of the outfit to ever officially testify. Also think Difronzo is the informant they reference that was giving up high level secrets to the Govt and was used in the affidavit against Mike Sarno and was the informant at the meeting with Mayor of Rosemont Donald Stephens....
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
I've always been suspicious of DiFronzo. Then again Accardo didnt do any time in his 60+ year career. Maybe DiFronzo took a page out of his playbook. Took a bust on that Indian Casino deal but it got overturned on appeal. I am highly suspicious why they left him out of the Family Secrets trial. Maybe the case wasn't strong idk. If I had to guess I would say he wasn't an informant. Wtf does Red Wemmette's low level porno ass know. He was a Joey lombardo ATM. Plus he's been dead 2+ years now and I see nothing the Feds got from him. I'm going to file an FOIA request this week. Maybe before this year's out we will know for sure about No Nose/Bananas.


Tony Accardo never had anyone that was credible as an eyewitness to him talking about crimes ie Joe Hauser. Nick Calabrese was very credible and testified John Difronzo was one of the guys beating and punching Tony and Michael Spilotro.... Also why I think the Federal Govt put a lot of misinformation out there to throw people in the mob off the scent of him being an informant by leaking to the media he was the Boss...When in reality Johnny Apes was Acting Boss and then Jimmy Marcello was the Boss and Auippa until he died was the Official Boss all according to Nick Calabrese the first and only Made Member of the outfit to ever officially testify. Also think Difronzo is the informant they reference that was giving up high level secrets to the Govt and was used in the affidavit against Mike Sarno and was the informant at the meeting with Mayor of Rosemont Donald Stephens....

That's true. But remember, there were a couple other guys still alive that Nicky breeze said was in that basement(still living) that weren't included in the Family Secrets trial also.im guessing if all they had was the Spilotro murder in that bensenville basement based on nothing else but nicks testimony they left it out of the case. Doesn't add up No Nose was an informant. What did they get if he was? Fat Mike Sarno? Ive went back and forth over the years but I'm leaning now more than ever DiFronzo wasn't an informant.
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 03:10 AM

Kinda wild the Outfit is considered almost defunct. They were the #2 Family outside of NY and had over 200 members with only 1 made guy to ever rat. IMO I bet Accardo told them to go way underground in the early to mid 80s and told them to infiltrate and switch to legit businesses besides gambling for their future.Id bet my left nut they're still 100+ made guys strong today.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
I've always been suspicious of DiFronzo. Then again Accardo didnt do any time in his 60+ year career. Maybe DiFronzo took a page out of his playbook. Took a bust on that Indian Casino deal but it got overturned on appeal. I am highly suspicious why they left him out of the Family Secrets trial. Maybe the case wasn't strong idk. If I had to guess I would say he wasn't an informant. Wtf does Red Wemmette's low level porno ass know. He was a Joey lombardo ATM. Plus he's been dead 2+ years now and I see nothing the Feds got from him. I'm going to file an FOIA request this week. Maybe before this year's out we will know for sure about No Nose/Bananas.


Tony Accardo never had anyone that was credible as an eyewitness to him talking about crimes ie Joe Hauser. Nick Calabrese was very credible and testified John Difronzo was one of the guys beating and punching Tony and Michael Spilotro.... Also why I think the Federal Govt put a lot of misinformation out there to throw people in the mob off the scent of him being an informant by leaking to the media he was the Boss...When in reality Johnny Apes was Acting Boss and then Jimmy Marcello was the Boss and Auippa until he died was the Official Boss all according to Nick Calabrese the first and only Made Member of the outfit to ever officially testify. Also think Difronzo is the informant they reference that was giving up high level secrets to the Govt and was used in the affidavit against Mike Sarno and was the informant at the meeting with Mayor of Rosemont Donald Stephens....

That's true. But remember, there were a couple other guys still alive that Nicky breeze said was in that basement(still living) that weren't included in the Family Secrets trial also.im guessing if all they had was the Spilotro murder in that bensenville basement based on nothing else but nicks testimony they left it out of the case. Doesn't add up No Nose was an informant. What did they get if he was? Fat Mike Sarno? Ive went back and forth over the years but I'm leaning now more than ever DiFronzo wasn't an informant.


The only person who was alive who wasn’t indicted was Louie Marino... and his top guys Pete Difronzo(who just died) and Joe Andriacchi haven’t been arrested since the 60s. In the 90s and 2000s the government indicted and convicted Sam Carlisi,Jimmy Marcello, Anthony Zizzo, Tony the Hatch, The Calabrese crew,Marco Damico, Phillip and Jimmy Cozzo, Rick Rizzolo and the crazy horse guys, Anthony Giannone, Jimmy Inendino and Maltese,Paul and Mike Spano, Rudy Fratto, Anthony Centriaccio,Nicky Guzzino, Dominick Palermo,Frankie Schweis,Harry Aleman, William Hanhardt,Dominic Cortina, Don Angelini, Gus Alex, John Matassa Jr, the Carusos and Joey Lombardo Jr we’re kicked out of the Laborers and Jimmy Diforti was indicted on murder charges in the late 1990s. And that’s just off the top of my head... I think it’s pretty obvious he was an informant. There was literally only 2 people alive who weren’t indicted for the Spilotro murder even though Nick Calabrese said they were there and Louie Marino was doing 20 years in prison at the time on Racketeering Charges
...

Also Albert Vena was indicted for murder in the 1990s and opted for a judge only trial and he was aquitted in 1995. Pretty obvious what happened there
...
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Kinda wild the Outfit is considered almost defunct. They were the #2 Family outside of NY and had over 200 members with only 1 made guy to ever rat. IMO I bet Accardo told them to go way underground in the early to mid 80s and told them to infiltrate and switch to legit businesses besides gambling for their future.Id bet my left nut they're still 100+ made guys strong today.



In the 1980s they only had about 75 made guys and that was according to Solly Delaurentis who’s rumored to be the current boss.... in the 1950s and 1960s the feds believed they had 150 members. It’s in the Mary Ferrel FBI Files....
Posted By: jace

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 04:27 AM

Wymette does not give any proof of DiFronzo being an informant. he just answers yes and is not asked for proof or sources. I would not take his word for it so quickly.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by jace
Wymette does not give any proof of DiFronzo being an informant. he just answers yes and is not asked for proof or sources. I would not take his word for it so quickly.


I would assume his sources are the FBI agents he worked w for 30 years
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 02:37 PM

Calling someone a rat without any documentation or proof is about as disgusting of a crime as fondling a child.
Posted By: Balaclava777

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Kinda wild the Outfit is considered almost defunct. They were the #2 Family outside of NY and had over 200 members with only 1 made guy to ever rat. IMO I bet Accardo told them to go way underground in the early to mid 80s and told them to infiltrate and switch to legit businesses besides gambling for their future.Id bet my left nut they're still 100+ made guys strong today.



About a zero % chance the outfit has more than 50 made guys in 2021...likely closer to 30...do I think the outfit is completely defunct? No, but there’s just not the recruitment pool of Italian neighborhoods to make 100 guys...I’d say the outfit still has a lot of non Italian associates in higher positions and probably about 20-40 made guys total, surly some that aren’t really known.
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Calling someone a rat without any documentation or proof is about as disgusting of a crime as fondling a child.



When you were a child would you have rather someone call you a rat or molest you??


And there’s a ton of circumstantial proof that Difronzo was a rat not to mention Jeff Cohen, and Fosco from American News post did articles on the fact he was and he didn’t sue for slander... which I think makes it pretty obvious as well if you know the law...


Remember no could believe Bulger, Lefty Rosenthal etc etc were informants until they were exposed by the courts and the freedom of Information Act..
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Posted By: jace

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by jace
Wymette does not give any proof of DiFronzo being an informant. he just answers yes and is not asked for proof or sources. I would not take his word for it so quickly.


I would assume his sources are the FBI agents he worked w for 30 years



The FBI will not reveal a secret informer another informer who is in the open, or to another secret informer. So he is just making it up
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by jace
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by jace
Wymette does not give any proof of DiFronzo being an informant. he just answers yes and is not asked for proof or sources. I would not take his word for it so quickly.


I would assume his sources are the FBI agents he worked w for 30 years



The FBI will not reveal a secret informer another informer who is in the open, or to another secret informer. So he is just making it up


The fbi also doesn’t use informants who commit violence, oh that’s right never mind.....
Posted By: VitoCahill

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/21/21 11:59 PM

So if u stay out of jail for a longtime and die in yer bed as a boss of a family yer a rat???
So I guess Joseph andriacchi is in the same boat with difronzo? or Al tornabene ,John Monteleone,Albert vena???
Simply not being a dumb,bumbling inept mob boss like Gotti,amuso,carmine Persico and the like that spent most of their time in jail makes u a rat???
I guess lump in Nick Rizzuto Sr he had a good run at the top in Montreal served a brief sentence after project colisee then got out and was eventually.murdered but I guess the sniper worked for the RCMP or cia and was silencing him!!!????
Domenico cefalu has had a long run with very little jail time what does that mean?
What would some of the forum members think about Matteo Messina denaro he has been on the run for 27 yrs in Sicily.
Posted By: DillyDolly

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/22/21 12:13 AM

Good points, I'm popping champagne on Matteo Messina Denaro's 30-year anniversary as a fugitive to celebrate 🍾
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/22/21 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by VitoCahill
So if u stay out of jail for a longtime and die in yer bed as a boss of a family yer a rat???
So I guess Joseph andriacchi is in the same boat with difronzo? or Al tornabene ,John Monteleone,Albert vena???
Simply not being a dumb,bumbling inept mob boss like Gotti,amuso,carmine Persico and the like that spent most of their time in jail makes u a rat???
I guess lump in Nick Rizzuto Sr he had a good run at the top in Montreal served a brief sentence after project colisee then got out and was eventually.murdered but I guess the sniper worked for the RCMP or cia and was silencing him!!!????
Domenico cefalu has had a long run with very little jail time what does that mean?
What would some of the forum members think about Matteo Messina denaro he has been on the run for 27 yrs in Sicily.

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On the run from charges for 27 years is a lot different than NO CHARGES...
Albert vena was indicted on murder charges in the 1990s and did time in the 70s and the 1980s
Dominic cefalu was convicted of Heroin trafficking in the 1980s and did 30 months for contempt in the 1990s
John Difronzo did 0 days from 1965-1994 and then did 8 months and it was “reversed” on appeal, NO ONE ELSE IN THAT CASE WAS LET OUT ON AN APPEAL REVERSAL and never did a day again and everyone else in his exact situation w Spilotro either did life or was doing heavy time on racketeering charges
John monteleone did time on Loan sharking charges and contempt of court for refusing grand jury questions in Milwaukee
Posted By: ColonelReb

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/22/21 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
I've always been suspicious of DiFronzo. Then again Accardo didnt do any time in his 60+ year career. Maybe DiFronzo took a page out of his playbook. Took a bust on that Indian Casino deal but it got overturned on appeal. I am highly suspicious why they left him out of the Family Secrets trial. Maybe the case wasn't strong idk. If I had to guess I would say he wasn't an informant. Wtf does Red Wemmette's low level porno ass know. He was a Joey lombardo ATM. Plus he's been dead 2+ years now and I see nothing the Feds got from him. I'm going to file an FOIA request this week. Maybe before this year's out we will know for sure about No Nose/Bananas.


Tony Accardo never had anyone that was credible as an eyewitness to him talking about crimes ie Joe Hauser. Nick Calabrese was very credible and testified John Difronzo was one of the guys beating and punching Tony and Michael Spilotro.... Also why I think the Federal Govt put a lot of misinformation out there to throw people in the mob off the scent of him being an informant by leaking to the media he was the Boss...When in reality Johnny Apes was Acting Boss and then Jimmy Marcello was the Boss and Auippa until he died was the Official Boss all according to Nick Calabrese the first and only Made Member of the outfit to ever officially testify. Also think Difronzo is the informant they reference that was giving up high level secrets to the Govt and was used in the affidavit against Mike Sarno and was the informant at the meeting with Mayor of Rosemont Donald Stephens....

That's true. But remember, there were a couple other guys still alive that Nicky breeze said was in that basement(still living) that weren't included in the Family Secrets trial also.im guessing if all they had was the Spilotro murder in that bensenville basement based on nothing else but nicks testimony they left it out of the case. Doesn't add up No Nose was an informant. What did they get if he was? Fat Mike Sarno? Ive went back and forth over the years but I'm leaning now more than ever DiFronzo wasn't an informant.


The only person who was alive who wasn’t indicted was Louie Marino... and his top guys Pete Difronzo(who just died) and Joe Andriacchi haven’t been arrested since the 60s. In the 90s and 2000s the government indicted and convicted Sam Carlisi,Jimmy Marcello, Anthony Zizzo, Tony the Hatch, The Calabrese crew,Marco Damico, Phillip and Jimmy Cozzo, Rick Rizzolo and the crazy horse guys, Anthony Giannone, Jimmy Inendino and Maltese,Paul and Mike Spano, Rudy Fratto, Anthony Centriaccio,Nicky Guzzino, Dominick Palermo,Frankie Schweis,Harry Aleman, William Hanhardt,Dominic Cortina, Don Angelini, Gus Alex, John Matassa Jr, the Carusos and Joey Lombardo Jr we’re kicked out of the Laborers and Jimmy Diforti was indicted on murder charges in the late 1990s. And that’s just off the top of my head... I think it’s pretty obvious he was an informant. There was literally only 2 people alive who weren’t indicted for the Spilotro murder even though Nick Calabrese said they were there and Louie Marino was doing 20 years in prison at the time on Racketeering Charges
...

Also Albert Vena was indicted for murder in the 1990s and opted for a judge only trial and he was aquitted in 1995. Pretty obvious what happened there
...

Think about it again Louie. There were 2 guys in that basement that the Spilotro brothers got whacked that weren't in Family Secrets besides DiFronzo. Name the 2 besides DiFronzo. Nicky breeze named every guy there
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: Red Wemette confirms Difronzo was FBI Informant - 02/22/21 05:10 PM

Think about it again Louie. There were 2 guys in that basement that the Spilotro brothers got whacked that weren't in Family Secrets besides DiFronzo. Name the 2 besides DiFronzo. Nicky breeze named every guy there[/quote]

There was only 2 John Difronzo and Louie Marino and Marino at the time of Family Secrets was doing 20 years on Racketeering Charges... and If your gonna say Rocky Infelise he was also doing heavy time for Racketeering and died in prison
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