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Posted By: furio_from_naples

Mobsters paid to be made - 06/17/18 07:32 PM

I know that joey d'amico was made because his mother paid 50'000 $,jerry angiulo promised 100K a month to Patriarca sr and that Frank Scalise was killed because sell the membership in the gambinos.Any other examples?
Posted By: Newengland

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/17/18 08:44 PM

Hi Furio

Here you go again that was not how it went down with Jerry. Where do you get all this stuff.
Posted By: sittite

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/17/18 08:55 PM

I don't think it was 100k a month.... but I'm pretty sure it was 100k initially that opened up Raymond's eyes (and books).... jerry def paid for his button
Posted By: pmac

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/17/18 09:17 PM

jerry brought money to ray in providence because when they started the federals commssions(1955ish) looking into the mafia that guy lombardo or buccola wanted all gambling shut down. so jerry went to providence with a bag of money and promised ray alot more to come if ray would ok him to run the gambling. and he ran with it. him and his brothers all got made after that. jerry was in ww2 so i doubt he was a big pussy he seen a opening and took it he was rewarded with his button. that thing about him buying abutton was a myth. he was a brain with numbers. jerry anguilo took a big rish going over other mobster heads to the boss but he made millions on his chance.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/17/18 09:20 PM

not every one in the mafia was a hitman.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/17/18 09:29 PM

there was the whole thing in the 1950 were it was found out that frank scalise was selling buttons into what would be the gambino family and they killed him and put all those guys who bought there buttons on the shelf or faced death. so jerry was made after that and became underboss in the late 60tys. i think the feds statred that rumor to belittle him.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/18/18 02:35 AM

According to Joe Valachi testifying at the McClellan hearings, when the books opened around 1954, Frank Scalice and Albert Anastasia initiated a couple of hundred members and some of them were "commercialized" as Valachi puts it, paying $40,000 to become a member. According to him they were "kids there who was with Frank Luciano" one called JoJo.

Later on in his testimony, Valachi lists several members who were initiated by Scalice. These include Jimmy Squillante, Jerry Mancuso, Aniello "Wahoo" Mancuso, "ch*nk" Leo, Frank Rocci, Tony the Geep, Mike the Geep, Carmine Camarado, Jimmy Ward, Salvatore Bonfrisco, Jojo and Dudu. Valachi indicates they all paid $40,000 to become members. He also says that some paid with their business and then never saw their business again.


In Vinnie Teresa's book, he says Anguilo became a member pretty much the way pmac said it. Lombardo shut down his gambling activities because of the Keafuaver heat, Anguilo picked up the slack, started getting shook down by Larry Baione and others, didn't like that, so starting giving Patriarca $100,000 a month directly and became a member for that. However, Teresa hasn't always proven himself to be a credible source. I can see how that story can be interpreted as him buying his button, but I would say it is more him being a good earner.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/18/18 03:13 AM

It almost seems after they put jerry anguilo in prison for 40 yrs or whatever the boston globe guys wrote all types of nad shit about him. I mean he was some type of ww2 guy which today we look at as the cream of the crop. He got no love then we found out 20 yrs later whitey and flemmi was telling on them and they were killing there step kids ect. Then flemmi on stand last week sating they were paying like 6 8 agents who sole job was to take down anguilo and his brothers. I read alot about that guy he was as smart as they come. Book loans numbers and real estate plus the owned the night clubs guy was loaded. Google the house he died at. Wow
Posted By: artichoke

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/18/18 12:43 PM

Bravo great post i think he goes down with the best. the feds put his whole family in jail including his son. they also triedhim for a murder that barboza did.Jerry held his mud like a good naval person would. i think he was decorated in ww2 .
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/18/18 05:22 PM

Not all the brothers got in because of Jerry either, one of them I think Donato maybe? killed his way in. Jerry even mentioned it on wiretaps when fussing with his brother that he was the only killer in the room.

Angiulo had all of Boston in his pocket when it came to gambling so just imagine being over a city like Boston and raking in everything. Like pmac said, he owned a shitload. Fucker even owned a hospital!
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/19/18 08:23 AM

Robert Luisi jr in change of $ 10'000 monthly tribute was made by merlino in the early 1990s and become capo of philly mob's boston crew.
Posted By: pmac

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/19/18 04:06 PM

ya the brother donato was heard on the wires talking back to jerry, giving him shit. the other brother frank was a soldier and the oldest brother niccolo was the consig from the late 60tys till i think they all got arrested in 82. the boby luisi is a modern day example of buying the button i think they had other philly guys on tape talking about how for 10k merlino let you in. he must have got hell for that from other families in jail.
Posted By: The_Marble_Guy

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/20/18 02:58 PM

IMO I think Joe Ruggiero paid his way in somehow with the Patriarca's. I just find it odd he has all these " legitimate " business's in Fall River, etc but has never been pinched or anything. The only time you ever hear his name is having to do with business deals he's done. To me it smells like a buy in. No facts to back it up just my opinion from a distance. I hope New England doesn't get too butt hurt.......
Posted By: BensonHURST

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 06/23/18 05:43 PM

There are basically 3 ways in

1) Birthright i.e. your father, uncle cousin etc.

2) You are a big earner essentially you are buying your button that way. Keep kicking up
.... It's all always about money.

3) You are involved in a murder plot for the family.

In 2018 really aren't any murders anymore.

So either your taking over your dad's or uncles rackets or your earning/paying enough so your captain or boss will sponsor you.

Out right buying the button has probably happened a LOT more than we know however, it is against the rules and no one is looking to open their mouth about it.

It would go something like this you are seeing whoever is over you with an envelope(s) and you express your desire for the button, he gives you a wink as says keep this up and when they open the books I'll put you in.

Now whether that money in that envelope is coming from actual rackets or it's the guys communion money nobody knows or cares.

In life especially in cosa nostra what matters most is not what you are doing rather how you are doing it..
Posted By: Quiet_Doms

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 08/16/18 04:57 AM

A fucking shame and disgrace.
Posted By: Beenaround

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 08/16/18 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by BensonHURST
There are basically 3 ways in

1) Birthright i.e. your father, uncle cousin etc.

2) You are a big earner essentially you are buying your button that way. Keep kicking up
.... It's all always about money.

3) You are involved in a murder plot for the family.

In 2018 really aren't any murders anymore.

So either your taking over your dad's or uncles rackets or your earning/paying enough so your captain or boss will sponsor you.

Out right buying the button has probably happened a LOT more than we know however, it is against the rules and no one is looking to open their mouth about it.

It would go something like this you are seeing whoever is over you with an envelope(s) and you express your desire for the button, he gives you a wink as says keep this up and when they open the books I'll put you in.

Now whether that money in that envelope is coming from actual rackets or it's the guys communion money nobody knows or cares.

In life especially in cosa nostra what matters most is not what you are doing rather how you are doing it..


And know there's only one Rule..#1..You have to be nuts.
Posted By: jace

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 08/17/18 12:15 AM

[quote=MightyDR]According to Joe Valachi testifying at the McClellan hearings, when the books opened around 1954, Frank Scalice and Albert Anastasia initiated a couple of hundred members and some of them were "commercialized" as Valachi puts it, paying $40,000 to become a member. According to him they were "kids there who was with Frank Luciano" one called JoJo.

Later on in his testimony, Valachi lists several members who were initiated by Scalice. These include Jimmy Squillante, Jerry Mancuso, Aniello "Wahoo" Mancuso, "ch*nk" Leo, Frank Rocci, Tony the Geep, Mike the Geep, Carmine Camarado, Jimmy Ward, Salvatore Bonfrisco, Jojo and Dudu. Valachi indicates they all paid $40,000 to become members. He also says that some paid with their business and then never saw their business again.




I can believe Anastasia made a few pay him, but $40,000 was so much money in that time, I think $4,000 is more realistic.
Posted By: kingoflittlenewyork

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 08/17/18 02:55 AM

Part that seems off to me is the "initiated a couple hundred members" part. I know it's the Gambinos and they are the largest or 2nd largest of the families but making a couple hundred guys seems way off to me. Should be more along the lines of "initiated a couple members."

I read somewhere,i think on the other forum(if you post on this forum too please speak up, I'm not trying to take credit for your info) about how Anastasia being Calabrian had something to do with him selling memberships. Believe they said it is common practice in Italy for guys to buy into the 'Ndrangheta. I can't remember if it was the same poster(I think Pogo said this and I know he doesn't post here)but someone said it is acceptable for 'Ndrangheta leadership to alert authorities about a members activities if it will stop a murder or squash a beef.
Posted By: hoodlum

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 08/22/18 04:06 AM

Often, I read posts that speak of "the other forum" or something 2 that effect, is it forum ettiquite 2 not name other bb's? is there other similar forum's besides Gangsters Inc. & Five Families...something similar to this that I don't know about??…& who is this pogo that I often see mentioned..sometimes mocked?? just asking, not looking 2 defect ...LOL.
Posted By: MightyDR

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 08/24/18 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by hoodlum
Often, I read posts that speak of "the other forum" or something 2 that effect, is it forum ettiquite 2 not name other bb's? is there other similar forum's besides Gangsters Inc. & Five Families...something similar to this that I don't know about??…& who is this pogo that I often see mentioned..sometimes mocked?? just asking, not looking 2 defect ...LOL.


http://theblackhand.club/forum/index.php

Pogo is a poster there
Posted By: kingoflittlenewyork

Re: Mobsters paid to be made - 08/24/18 01:47 PM

The credit I gave to Pogo actually belongs to Hollander.
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