Rise in homicides sets off alarms in Paterson

http://www.northjersey.com/news/rise-in-homicides-sets-off-alarms-in-paterson-1.1652472

It's no joke out there.

It's gotten a lot worse recently. Worst month in a while. 14 shootings (and those are the only ones that cops know of) and 3 homicides in 4 days.

I know I grew up there until I was 12 and I live off main ave in Clifton now a few blocks away from crooks. Obviously not a problem area but I'm very in tune with what's going on out there. My cousin is a cop out there and his two brothers are high up in the fire dept. I have a close connection to the city but it's disgusting what's going on out there. All neighborhood bullshit. Up the hill down the hill. I kid I know took three in the face a little over a week ago and survived. Small caliber bullets and some luck. It won't get better anytime soon.

The strip clubs there in that city are Awesome....lol

There are zero rules in Paterson, it's the Wild West. In my younger years I once bought a bag of weed from a gas station that was a complete front for an open air drug market!! The gas pumps had water in them, true story. The guy would pretend he was pumping your gas (we don't pump our own gas here in Jersey) and when he was up in your window pretending to pump you your gas sell you any kind of drug you want. It was actually a brilliant set up.....

It is disgusting what goes on in these neighbor hoods and Black Lives Matter movement ppl have some balls.

For starters it should be all lives matter but fine if they can't go that far at least make it all black lives matter.

Every day in these cities there are probably 100 deaths related to gangs and drugs and none of those matter.

But the one in five thousand time a white person commits a violent crime against a black male that matters.

It is the most ridiculous concecpt and receives way to much media attention.

Imagine if I started a white lives matter movement?? Which would have more action because there are far more black on white crimes then there are white on black crimes.

But then I would be labeled racist.

It is laughable but it's not it's serious!

Paterson is a total shit storm and will never get better. You have a bunch of shit heads living there that just dont give a fuck about their neighborhoods.
There was some hispanic kid that sucker punched an old man last year and he gets sentenced next month. The kid is a piece of garbage and kind of sums up what paterson is all about. Hopefully the scumbag gets stabbed in the passaic county jail.
Simply put, Paterson has absolutely nothing to offer. At least Newark has a train station that goes to NYC and 2 colleges , rutgers and njit and the Prudential center.
Years ago, paterson was a nice working class hood with quite a few italians.

There was an article in the paper about him yesterday. He's taking a 3 year plea.

You'd be a day late and a dollar short.


http://www.whitelivesmatter.com/

They seem charming.

http://abc7ny.com/news/paterson-teen-pleads-guilty-in-knockout-game-punch-attack/1492487/

Paterson and camdem are like springfield up here in mass. Wild west. Abunch of the crime is people coming from the ghettos of nyc were gentrification is happening. These small cities rents cheap. Are the making newark better i would assume since its across the bridge from nyc the housing market is looking up.

Downtown Newark and the Ironbound (also known as the DownNeck section) are in the early stages of gentrification. The ironbound is mostly Portugese, European Spanish, and Brazilian. Brazilians are the majority out of the three groups and it's a very safe section of the city. The Ironbound has some great reatuarants and clubs. My buddies and I go out in the Ironbound to chase those gorgeous Brazilian broads....

Downtown Newark has a lot of luxury rentals going in slowly. I'm starting to see some hipsters and young people renting in Downtown Newark as a cheap alternative to Manhattan. Don't forget folks, it's only a 12 minute train ride into Manhattan from Downtown Newark, so it's just a matter of time until Downtown Newark has complete gentrification. There's a new skyscraper being erected in Downtown Newark that's going to be Panasonic's US HQ.

They are also building a new luxury high rise residential building in the Ironbound.

I love going to Devils games at the Rock, it's such a beautiful Hockey venue. Go Devils, can't wait for hockey season. There's also some good bars and restaurants in Downtown Newark that have popped up since the Rock opened up. Mercato is the newest and it's great.

If I had extra $$$$$$ I would start buying as many buildings in Downtown Newark as possible....

The really bad sections of Newark that get all the attention for all the wrong reasons are the Southward and the area that borders Irvington. The Western border with Irvington actually got so bad they had to create a "cease fire" task force. The North Ward of Newark where Bloomfield Avenue runs through that borders Belleville is now mostly Latin Spanish and is pretty safe. I get my pizza on Sunday's from Gencarelli's on Bloomfield Ave in the North Ward and I eat out a lot at Luigi's on Bloomfield Ave in the Northward. Michael Angelo's used to be the best Italian restaurant on Bloomfield Ave in the North Ward but they moved out to Fairfield in the suburbs in the general West Essex/Eastern Morris area (Fairfield, Caldwells, East Hanover, etc) were most of the old Bloomfield Ave North Ward and Down Neck (Ironbound) Newark Italians have moved out to....

being mad at black people for starting a movement about cops shooting blacks is racist

not too mention what the fuck does black lives matter have to do with this article

First off I am by no means racist.

Second the article is discussing how bad the violence in Paterson is and how young black males are shooting and killing each other all the time.

How does it not relate to the black lives matter? Where are they? Off the top of my head there were 3 black males killed in Paterson, 2 in Newark and 3 with a few severely injured in Atlantic City in the past 4 days ..... Why are they not there protesting the violence?

South Paterson is all Arabs, a matter of fact a lot of the 9/11 Plane hijacker scum lived in South Paterson at one point. There's parts of South Paterson were all the store signs are even in Arabic....

Victor Cruz of the GIANTS is from Paterson, he grew up in a pretty rough section but he had sports that saved him and his Father who came into his life later on was a Black Firefighter with the City of Passsic.

another shooting this morning

http://www.nj.com/passaic-county/index.s...cart_river_home

I grew up in south p Dante before we moved. All my friends growing up were Palestinian and Turkish. Where I live in Clifton downtown is just an extension of south p all Arab and Turks some white and Rican. This violence will not stop. It's an all out war on the other side by the fourth ward. But you're spot on as usual with al your comments about the city especially the strip clubs lol.

Bobby P,

I think Dante's comments about Arabs in Paterson was a response to a post that I put up and erased. In the post, I noted that when I've been through Paterson....half the people walking around appear to be Hispanic or Arab.
The recent flareup appears to be Black victims, but the street element of Blacks,Hispanics, and Arabs is VERY visible in Paterson and has been for a while. I was wondering out loud why the one guy decided to make this thread about BLM.

I think I also wanted to ask you, as a guy from there what set off the recent murders?

Dante,

agree with your points about Newark. That's the city I grew up in.All the progress that occurred under Booker has stopped.

I made a comment a few months back about the Vailsburg area slowly becoming gentrified. I made the mistake of thinking that just because I saw white faces in an area where there aren't many Whites, that the people were urban professionals and hipsters. But when these Whites walk their dogs, they ACTUALLY pick up and dispose of the poop. Meaning they ain't hipsters or urban professionals.

You're not racist. What you are is right.

Main Street from crooks to Madison is a 90% Muslim neighborhood. The rest of the city is mostly black and Latino. The recent rise has nothin to do with bloods or crips it has to do with neighborhood beefs. Mainly what they call up the hill and down the hill. U have blood an crips fighting onthe same side because thy are from the same hood. The county jail used to be separated by gang units. Now it's by where you're from. Its crazy. If you happened to notice a lot of Arabs u probably were I the south paterson area of Main Street which leads downtown. As u get past south p u run into school 8(latino) then it's mostly Latino until u could turn left on broadway which will take u to the fourth ward a predominantly black hood. It's the most dangerous area and a high drug zone. But there's a few other spots that are hot as hell as well as far as violence. Like I said its a block and neighborhood thing right now that's making it bubble.

Sorry right on broadway not left. Left would take u to cianci street which is the old Italian stronghold and where they taped sopranos where tony meets Paulie to tell him furio is coming over and where he meets Phil and talks about Vito. The statue of Lou Costello with the baseball bat. Also union ave used to be Italian but now is heavy Latino some black and 21 st ave which is heavy Colombian but used to be all Italian. There's still cafés on these three blocks but few Italian left as residents

Dante knows what's up

Thanks Bobby P,

I thought the Bs and Cs stuff eliminated the hood solidarity.so I read what you wrote.....was familiar with what it meant, but thought that up hill downhill didn't apply anymore.

I think the gang sh*t is stupid in general, but I especially thought that it didn't fit the landscape of tightly packed cities like in NJ...or on the East Coast. I could see it taking root out in Long Island, where things are more spread out.

Bobby P is from Paterson, his comments are spot on. My one side of family is from the Totowa/Paterson border area. The border of Paterson and Totowa still has a ton of Italians, mostly on the Totowa side- in fact the entire town of Totowa is predominantly Italian. But the Union Ave part of Paterson near Totowa still has at least one social club left and some Italians holding out still. There's also Gelotti's in Paterson which is the best spot for an Italian ice on this planet earth. Also on Union Ave in Paterson there is Ralph Piccolo's Pizza which was in The Sopranos where Jackie Jr hangs out and where Christopher goes the first day he gets made. The infamous , "Don't Disrespect the pizza parlour" scene was filmed right there in Ralph Piccolo's Pizzeria on Union Ave in Paterson. I think in the show it was called the Ohhhfah Pizzeria or something like that....

I always thought the same thing, that the Bloods and Crips made zero sense here in Jersey where you have thousands of people tightly packed living on top of each other in cities like Newark Jersey City and Paterson, Etc. Never understood why the black gangsters here in Jersey picked up those west coast affiliations. I always thought it made more sense for the black gangs here to have "drug organizations" and control high rise residential towers like in the show "The Wire" with the StringerBell/ Avon Barksdale Organization

It did kill the hood beefs when the B shit hit heavy in like 96 and it stayed about your set until like 5 years ago when this block and hood shit exploded. It used to be in you were sex money murda , it didn't matter if you were kills season line from 16th age or Don Juan line for north main... U stuck with eachother. Totally different now. Everything Dante said is exactly what's what. Geloti's is the best. My boy rabbit has his spot on union ave in totowa w the machines in it. Dante knows who he is

Every day in these cities there is probably 100 deaths related to gangs and drugs and none of that matter.


And what is different than the stuff this whole website is about.there is very few black men who could close to the crap the guys this website is based on have done. You ship every job you can out of the country then wonder why folks sell drugs?. if you are that concerned(which i doubt)tell these gop jokers since they dominate the state houses to legalize it all and watch these killings disappear. What they are doing is no more than what Al Capone and others did.i am not saying it is right, but let's get real

getting mad at BLM= N-word shut up and keep letting us F you over.just keep being quiet while scumbag cops with garbage work records kill unarmed black folks and go on paid leave.

plus the homicide rates have dropped in every big city compared to bush-clinton-bush eras by 40% or more. go check it out.

we know crooks whether they are black,white or yellow have no standards, the effing cops are supposed to!!!!!! that is why people are pissed.

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Hey satch7
Stop playing dumb. You know damn well shipping jobs out of the country has nothing to do with black on black crime. They've been killing each other from day one, its their damn culture. They need to stop having babies out of wedlock, plain and simple. It aint about jobs.
They will be wtill be blaming whitey a hundred years from now, you watch.
They could have a million job offerings and they woukd still be having babies, selling drugs, and killing inncocent people. Why? Because thats what they do.

Satch is full of shit.

13% of the population is black, committing over 60% of violent crimes.

Effeminate cuck metrosexual white guilt males seeking approval from institutionalized lesbianic femenists at rape apology seminars buy this crap.

God damn moon bats.

Sauce, that was very well said ! Excellent explantion.

to crash:

who moving heavy weight dope shipments in tons? it daggone sure is not the brother in the hood is it? and all that crap is drug related. what middle class and upper middle class brothers gang banging and doing drive-bys none fool!!!!!! poor folks of all races commit crime

crash you have written a bunch of ignorant racist garbage on here. I can contact well over 100 degreed black folks on my linkedin account, when I hear a white person talking that shit I know they do not know any black folks. we have all seen folks standing in line in the inner cities to fill out job apps on tv. I know black airline pilots, I know scores of black engineers,and I see white folks on corners begging here in Washington state. I bet you this for every moron fucking up in the hood there are 20 kids going to school doing the right thing.



Are you fixing your own community? Because white people usually kill other white people. This white on white continuous cycle of death needs to be stopped!

to sauce I got something for you


Highlights:
For the period 2008–12— Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).
Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8–2.5 per 1,000).
The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.
Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).
Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).
Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5137

everybody with two brain cells know poverty and greed drives crime. when I was poor it briefly entered my mind to sling dope once I got my papers that bullshit left my head. I am a black man who knows the deal .

but I got some more facts for you

the Bureau of Justice statistics arrest trends for 2010 showed that whites were arrested more than blacks for violent crimes, property damage and drug possession/use/abuse and manufacturing than blacks, and again, the victims are typically white as well

I can tell you these poor white boys in metro seattle with drug habits bust these white folks ass breaking in their homes.they are prowling their cars,following the UPS guy and stealing the boxes.a white lady told me about a white woman who moved to seattle talking about she was glad to be away from minorities, She said she busted her bubble fast and told her the white men and women with drug habits will fuck you over first out here

I was at a BBQ at my boys grandmothers last night on summer and cedar street. It's 12 and there's music blasting all over the place. BBQs everywhere. But it's peaceful. I took a video and sent it to friends like look it's loud as fuck and they had no respect for the neighbors but it's clean fun. Literally a minute later I hear automatic weapon shots go off which had to be like three blocks away because it was loud. All of a sudden we saw cops everywhere looking frantically. They pulled up on us, looked, and then Kept it moving. Bro I will not even go out there to see friends anymore. And summer street ain't good but it ain't where the majority of shootings have happened. Summer and cedar is where the cops killed that guy who pulled the gun out on them. I knew him. He smokes dust so he was a maniac. Down the block on summer and pearl which is closer to the fourth ward thy killed this working man Roc who I know for years. They hit the wrong guy. He worked, was well liked in the neighborhood, and had no affiliation to the street life. It's a shame. He didn't deserve it. I know his whole family man. Great people. Everyone I talk to is ready to leave the city and never look back but most don't had the financial means to do so. It's a war zone and these young kids are shooting with their eyes closed. What a mess. You have to see it to believe it. It's insane. And the kids coming up are so desensitiZed when it comes to murder and death it's appalling. U talk to your average 15/16 year old and they talk about death like its a football game. I know a lot of you guys hav no sympathy for the people living in this shit but I do. I grew up wih a lot of these people and most of these kids weren't given a chance. Fathers are locked up or on drugs , sometimes mothers too. It's hard to break the cycle man. I don't know how it's gonna get better. It's all out war now. They're gonna keep shooting and shooting.

Bobby P.,

Glad you didn't get hit, BUT....with all due respect, what were you thinking? The place you knew doesn't exist anymore.And even without the local spike in violence, a Labor Day cookout (at night?) in the hood is NEVER a good look.

One day I was in a bind,and on the road... stopped off at the public library on Alexander Street in Newark to make a photocopy and a local dude tried to "Chris and Snoop" me. Asked me how to get to South Orange Avenue, like I was a lost tourist.

Outsiders have a right to judge these hoods and the people who live there. One thing that they will never know though, is how they would have fared, survived, and made it out of some of these places if they were brought up there. We can both answer that question for ourselves because we did it.

As arrogant as people tend to be, thinking they did things on their own, the truth is that nurturing,support and values given to us by the ones who helped raise us...plays a big role in what we make of ourselves.

I know people who succeeded despite having NONE of that, but like you said...not having that puts anybody at a big disadvantage.


*Hope that was some good barbecue for you to risk your neck like that.

You guys keep talking about how we dont know what its like to surive in the high crime ghetto area's.. Well guess what? You are right!!! Know why? Because we arent having babues out of wedlock at 75%.
All the problems in the black community can be traced to irresponsible behavior.
Think about it.
Make the schools better, offer more after school programs bla bla bla.
Tax payers pay for all this stuff and it gets wasted because all these kids are running around unsupervised.
You need skills and education to succeed. Its not something thats owed to you simply because you are born. You earn it.
I have no problem helping children since they never asked to be here, it was their irresposnsible parents ( if you want to call them that) who brought them here.
How about spending money on the dangers of out of wedlock kids and getting pregnant at an early age? How about that ???
I dont care how many fuckin jobs are available, you need to be raised correctly.
I love how black athletes get paid millions, have a bunch of babies with different woman, send checks every month amd think they are fathers... They are garbage cans.
Until the black community decides to help themselves, why should hard working people( blacks included) pay forntheir irresposnsible life styles.
Blacks getting shot every day? Of course, there are no fathers to enforce discipline. This shit is getting old. Let em keep killing each other. Just stay the fuck out of my hard working neighborhood.
How about this, go to a very poor white neighborhood and tell me how many drive by shootings there are.. The answer will ne zero. The black culture is so flawed i wonder if it will ever get better.
Next time i see another 19 year old black covered in tattoos, gold teeth, wearing dreadlocks, and pushing a baby carriage, im gonna vomit.

Crash,

I thought that "your children spoke proper English & that the gates that surround your property kept you safe from common ghetto trash"*

*sign off line from an infamous radio dj

What is your life like that you seem to be in such constant contact with these "lowlife" people?

First off that seen was great. I know a couple Chris and snoops out here that strictly kill like its business and they take pride in their work. Nuts. As far as me being out there... Bro I ain't gonna go to governer, the blvd (rosa parks) , or anywhere close to those battlefields but where I was at ain't that bad. The shots were more than likely coming from the other side of Roberto Clemente park. It's close but not really because theres a park and school that separate it. Bro I probably won't go to any kind of Social gathering out there anytime soon but I ain't gonna not go to a friend who i consider family's family BBQ because of what's going on out there. It's a decent block where they live close to the Italian cafés on 21st ave. the thing is with paterson u can go over one block and it's night and day brother. Now the fact I was waking on summer street that late wasn't smart but there was so many beautiful woman out I couldn't help it. And not no hood boogers. Straight up beauties who work and conduct themselves like ladies. But I won't be chilling out there anytime soon.

Bobby P,

Glad you're safe, just busting your chops.Plus everybody knows that the only food that's worth getting hit for in Paterson is at The Brownstone.

I'd take a hit from a .22 for the food there.

The area that we drove through getting there was Ramsey Street. Everybody was Latino with handful of Arabs(they had hats with their country flags on them, otherwise they appear Latino)

Ramsey street? U sure that's what it was ? You sure it wasn't Robert street. That's my old block, like where I would chill and move my work. I was young. Bro you're buggin. The brownstone does it's thing but you got E&V for Italian. Cash only. La Tia Delia for Peruvian at market and mill, the mofungo house for Puerto Rican which is market street but on the other side of paterson not by Delia, sala ha dine for Palestinian( wrong spelling) on main street and Gould in south p, toros for Turkish on hazel, for hot dogs and burgers u got the corrale right next to toros, libbys on mcbride, good pizza at Taormina at the end of Madison not by Main Street , I got a few good spots for Jamaican, same for soul food. Let me know what Ur in the mood for next time you're out here

http://www.northjersey.com/news/four-mor...-days-1.1654823

I live in north jersey and just like so many other stories I partied in high school and that led to dabbling in pain killers.

Broke my leg got Vicodin and got hooked... Found s doctor to give me 90 30s and 60 vike tens (and 30 Xanax bars to help me sleep) a month...

Once that ended I went to herion and it is every where in Paterson.

If you drive down most streets they will yell to you or at times when I was lifting and big I looked like a cop and would have to ask but it was still so easy to find it.

I remember coming home from the city after s concert and wanted some to put me down after rolling all night and went to Rosa Parks at 5 am and someone was out there to serve you....

24 hours a day and 365 days a year.... Christmas Easter you name it they are out there!

Bobby Pazzo,

Is Taormina better than Patsy's for pie? I've been to Patsy's before but never Taormina....Curious

Never been to Patsy's believe it or not. Taormina used to be amazing, its still good but it's not like it once was. Still good pizza though.

Well, it was another lovely and joy filled holiday weekend in Baltimore City...Like 20 people shot

And among those injured...were two children under 10 and a pregnant female

Baltimore obviously doesnt discriminate

What a shit hole!

Bodymore, Murdaland I been out there. It's insanity. As bad as paterson is it ain't got shit on bmore. Bigger city but it's the mentality they have out there. Nothing to lose tattooed around their gun wounds.

BLM is about the police killing unarmed and/or innocent black people

there are other programs and protest about blacks killing blacks

I stay out of the city if I can. Not because im a pussy but I value life. A lot of dudes out there don't, they figure they are doing life or getting killed and never making it. They killed Lor Scoota over jealousy and him about to make it out the hood.

I mean parts of the city aint bad if you going to an orioles game or ravens or something. But def parts you dont wanna walk along the street on for sure lol

Hey cookcounty,
BLM has everything to do with blacks killing blacks. Because of all the extreme violence perpetrated by blacks, when cops go into those violent stricken hoods they are much more cautious.
All the outrage from all the hardworking people is because blacks slaughter each other each day and no one says anything because godforbid the truth is told . But if a cop shoots a black guy its a lynching.

Seriously , how many unarmed blacks get killed by white cops each year? How many? Not many, thats for sure. You have a gun on you get approached by a cop and get shot, its your own fuckin fault. Dont carry an illegal gun !!!
That parasite in Milwaukee is playing gang banger in hell right now. Fuck em.
White cops killing unarmed blacks; is it really an eppidemic? No !!!!!!

So you're going to conveniently ignore the second sentence of Cook's post where he mentions the groups that do speak out against black on black violence. these organizations also protest and march, and just because you may have not been aware of their existence doesn't mean they haven't been speaking out against these things for years. you couldn't hide the hate in your blood if your life depended on it.

+5000

Notice none of these great debaters are stepping into the Tombstone thread. The black community talk is becoming narcissistic.

BlackFam

I've already had to stop myself about ten Times already from going off on this fool, but I decided to not eat the troll bait, lol

I hear you guys, we had like 400 shootings, I think? 90 murders in August....

http://www.northjersey.com/news/paterson...tings-1.1656663

That's insane.