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John Franzese, denied compassionate release.

Posted By: Beanshooter

John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/03/16 12:27 AM

The Brooklyn U.S. Attorney’s office is opposing 99-year-old Colombo mobster John Franzese's request for an early release from prison because of his advanced age and medical issues.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/colo...ticle-1.2697126
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/03/16 02:39 AM

I still think he outlives his sentence. Crazy.
Posted By: OakAsFan

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/03/16 03:03 AM

Can't remember if this is the right guy, but in Kenny Gallo's book he talks about how someone named Franzese still keeps in contact with his son that turned state's evidence, that he was showing Kenny current pictures of his grandchildren, etc.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/03/16 11:18 AM

The FEDs have no mercy for aging mobsters, Persico's sentence was also upheld a couple of days ago.

I wonder how Christy Tick managed to get out of jail..
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/03/16 11:44 AM

Franzese should rot in jail for all the horrible things he's done. Persico too.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/03/16 11:58 AM

Franzese and Ianniello were still extorting businesses well into their 90's.

I wouldn't be surprised if Furnari is doing the same thing.

These guys should never be let out.
Posted By: bigboy

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 12:14 AM

Maybe they should consider this before committing their crimes
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 12:35 AM

Originally Posted By: bigboy
Maybe they should consider this before committing their crimes


Oh they won't. Not even at the age of 100.
Posted By: blueracing347

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 02:44 AM

He doesn't look 99.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 10:57 AM

Originally Posted By: blueracing347
He doesn't look 99.


I would've said 98.
Posted By: Philip_Lombardo

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 06:30 PM

lol lol lol
Posted By: MusclesMarinara

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 07:00 PM

looks good for 99
Posted By: njcapo35

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 11:38 PM

#Free Sonny Franzese #Underboss #Oldest Mafioso #Tough-Talking Wiseguy #Time Served
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/05/16 11:42 PM

Originally Posted By: MusclesMarinara
looks good for 99


Doesn't look a day over 97.
Posted By: americafyeah

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/06/16 03:45 PM

it's possible he's not really 99. i don't know that his d.o.b. has ever been verified,or if it's possible to at this point.i would like to believe his bday is feb 6, which would make him an Aquarius. but i can't in good faith say that he is an Aquarius. maybe he is,we may never know for sure
Posted By: CleanBandit

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/06/16 05:13 PM

What difference does it make if he's an Aquarius or not? Lol.
Posted By: mulberry

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/06/16 05:20 PM

If he can still change his own diapers then he's doing ok
Posted By: mchang93

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/08/16 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: americafyeah
it's possible he's not really 99. i don't know that his d.o.b. has ever been verified,or if it's possible to at this point.i would like to believe his bday is feb 6, which would make him an Aquarius. but i can't in good faith say that he is an Aquarius. maybe he is,we may never know for sure

I think the confusion in age is he was either born in 1917 or 1919 so wouldn't make too much of a difference. My great grandfather was born in 1919 died in 2002 and I thought he lived a long ass life this dude is the true Italian Stallion. I'd put money on him in a street fight vs most men half his age too.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/10/16 04:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: MusclesMarinara
looks good for 99


Doesn't look a day over 97.


That's not actually such a humorous difference.
Two years at 99 is a huge amount which is not to be trivialised.
Ask a 99 year old how trivial it is to be either 99 or 97.
Posted By: thedudeabides87

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/11/16 11:25 PM

Sorry if this has been covered before but was he in prison during the Orena Persico war?
Posted By: Zavattoni

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/12/16 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: thedudeabides87
Sorry if this has been covered before but was he in prison during the Orena Persico war?


I believe he was in prison during the Orena/Persico war. I believe he was a Orena ally, though. My question is; Since Persico, and Franzese don't like eachother, Why hasn't Persico tried to kill him?
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/12/16 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
Originally Posted By: thedudeabides87
Sorry if this has been covered before but was he in prison during the Orena Persico war?


I believe he was in prison during the Orena/Persico war. I believe he was a Orena ally, though. My question is; Since Persico, and Franzese don't like eachother, Why hasn't Persico tried to kill him?


This is a big misconception. He sided with Persico and did everything he could to get Allie Boy in the driver's seat. Allie was a like a son to him. Sonny was even overheard on a wire saying how much he loved the Persicos lol.
Posted By: Beenaround

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/13/16 11:35 PM

Good..like he really was compassionate with others.
Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/14/16 01:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Beenaround
Good..like he really was compassionate with others.


I couldn't agree more. This is a guy who should never get out. He has a lot of blood on his hands and talks about it like it's a cool thing. How is it cool to be a serial killer and do heavy time? Gotti, Basciano, the Persicos are just like this guy. I will never understand why people like this are seen as legends. Just a bunch of bums.
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/14/16 05:49 AM

I don't understand why people come on this board and "try" to blast people that say anything about gangsters. I have yet to see a post where someone was saying the guy was innocent and should be roaming the streets tomorrow. If gangsters trying to find a way to get out of prison bother some of you, well maybe you are just on the wrong message board.
Posted By: Extortion

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/14/16 09:06 AM

Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Beenaround
Good..like he really was compassionate with others.


I couldn't agree more. This is a guy who should never get out. He has a lot of blood on his hands and talks about it like it's a cool thing. How is it cool to be a serial killer and do heavy time? Gotti, Basciano, the Persicos are just like this guy. I will never understand why people like this are seen as legends. Just a bunch of bums.


Why join a mafia board and are so fascinated with them, then talk a bunch of shit about them?
Posted By: Madonn

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 10:17 AM

That guy has done so much crimes in his life. He's a pretty tough guy, I'd say. Think about how much stories he has to say if you get him to talk about it.

Guy's probably met all kind of mobsters.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Extortion
Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted By: Beenaround
Good..like he really was compassionate with others.


I couldn't agree more. This is a guy who should never get out. He has a lot of blood on his hands and talks about it like it's a cool thing. How is it cool to be a serial killer and do heavy time? Gotti, Basciano, the Persicos are just like this guy. I will never understand why people like this are seen as legends. Just a bunch of bums.


Why join a mafia board and are so fascinated with them, then talk a bunch of shit about them?

I ask myself the same question quite often while on here. The best are the guys who talk about these guys and call them pussies or something along those lines. Fucking guys would shit on themselves if they ever got into an altercation PERIOD never mind a street guy. I rarely contribute anymore because of the bullshit that goes on here.
Posted By: BobbyPazzo

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I don't understand why people come on this board and "try" to blast people that say anything about gangsters. I have yet to see a post where someone was saying the guy was innocent and should be roaming the streets tomorrow. If gangsters trying to find a way to get out of prison bother some of you, well maybe you are just on the wrong message board.

+1
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: BobbyPazzo
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I don't understand why people come on this board and "try" to blast people that say anything about gangsters. I have yet to see a post where someone was saying the guy was innocent and should be roaming the streets tomorrow. If gangsters trying to find a way to get out of prison bother some of you, well maybe you are just on the wrong message board.

+1


+2
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Extortion

Why join a mafia board and are so fascinated with them, then talk a bunch of shit about them?


They don't even know that themselves, not even a Freudian psychoanalist can figure that one out.
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 05:59 PM

I don't understand that metaphor. Lots of people are horror movie aficionados. It doesn't mean they want to put on a hockey mask and start killing virgins.

I like Kiss. It doesn't mean I want to put on cat facepaint and start having threesomes with mother/daughter groupies.

You can find organized crime interesting as a topic and still operate with a sense of detachment about the whole thing.

I mean is anybody here honestly going to try and defend some douchebag who has - literally - lost count of how many people he has murdered?

What's worse is the relatives of scumbags like DeBatt and DiBernardo going on Diane Sawyer to whine about Sammy Gravano killing their loved ones as if they have the moral high ground when their loved ones sold drugs to children and distributed child pornography.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 06:14 PM

Don't take it personal Moe, you know you're my buddy..

But to be honest, I do not praise nor defend any criminal but I do find the history of organized crime, and the American and Sicilian mafia in particular, very fascinating.

So personally I find it strange and even a bit hypocritical to be morally outraged about the excact thing I'm clearly so fascinated with.

Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 07:31 PM

None taken, Billy.

And I can see it from that viewpoint too.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 07:44 PM

wink

Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 07:54 PM

I've encountered this ridiculous line of thinking by more than a few on these boards over the years. In their misguided view, one apparently has to lose sight of right and wrong or root for career criminals and murderers to have an interest in the mob. That's really what it comes down to. We have people on these forums who apparently have the emotional level of an 8 year old and are surprised when not everybody worships mobsters like they do.
Posted By: BillyBrizzi

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 08:48 PM

Who's worshipping anybody over here Ivy?? Or rooting for mobsters??

These are assumptions you make!!

That would be on one extreme end of the spectrum, the other extreme end is coming on these boards and constantly talking shit, saying they're all scumbags and must fry in hell and what not.

That shit gets old..
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: John Franzese, denied compassionate release. - 07/21/16 11:08 PM

Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Who's worshipping anybody over here Ivy?? Or rooting for mobsters??

These are assumptions you make!!

That would be on one extreme end of the spectrum, the other extreme end is coming on these boards and constantly talking shit, saying they're all scumbags and must fry in hell and what not.

That shit gets old..


Perhaps not you but, believe me, in the 10 years I've been on these boards there have been plenty of posters who root for these guys and never miss a chance to defend them. Of course, when pressed, they will deny they do it because they realize how ridiculous they would look.

As for myself, I have no need to constantly talk about what kind of people mobsters are because that's obvious, or should be anyway. But apparently some do need to be reminded. Anyway, I've always been more interested in the mob as a whole than individuals.
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