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gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife

Posted By: gangstereport

gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/27/15 11:18 AM

http://gangsterreport.com/gr-exclusive-chicago-mob-wife-strikes-blow-to-outfit/

She testified in front of a grand jury about bobbys crew
Posted By: Snakes

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/27/15 12:37 PM

Maybe this Hollingshead guy has something on Vena which may be what Scott was alluding to in his last article when he stated Vena was heavily targeted by the feds. I don't know what kind of bodies they could pin on him but it still makes for some interesting months ahead.
Posted By: SinatraClub

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/27/15 03:15 PM

The hit man statute is still apart of the Rico right? If so, they can pin murders on him from over 20 years ago if they can somehow prove the murder was done to benefit the Outfit or to aid his rise in the hierarchy.
Posted By: thebigfella

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/27/15 03:37 PM

It didn't take much to make them flip...i wonder what they have on difronzo
Posted By: Louiebynochi

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 12:52 AM

Elmo amarante is a made guy with the bonnanos and is alive. Not a deceased outfit soldier
Posted By: funkster

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 01:03 AM

He's the guy that opened that strip joint in Harvey...right?
Posted By: chicagofan75

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 02:43 AM

I've heard two different theories about Elmo Amarante. One was he and his associate Allan Grossman were owed money by the owners of Arnie's in Harvey and they took over. A financial arrangement was then made with the Outfit. At some point, Arnie's closed and they went back to New York. I think Amarante was arrested soon after.

The second theory was that Elmo Amarante, who had ties to Chicago, was essentially detailed to the Outfit for a brief period of time. This is not uncommon for the East Coast families in order to protect their soldiers and associates who have run into trouble, either legal trouble or trouble with other crews.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 04:28 AM

Not sure how Scott made that mistake. The first theory above sounds plausible. The second sounds a little too "Moe Green taking Freddy in" and I'm not aware of anything like that happening, at least in recent times, between NY and Chicago. We should remember another Bonanno soldier, Vinny Faraci, was involved in the Crazy Horse Too club in Vegas run by Outfit associate Rick Rizzolo.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 02:58 PM

Originally Posted By: chicagofan75
I've heard two different theories about Elmo Amarante. One was he and his associate Allan Grossman were owed money by the owners of Arnie's in Harvey and they took over. A financial arrangement was then made with the Outfit. At some point, Arnie's closed and they went back to New York. I think Amarante was arrested soon after.

The second theory was that Elmo Amarante, who had ties to Chicago, was essentially detailed to the Outfit for a brief period of time. This is not uncommon for the East Coast families in order to protect their soldiers and associates who have run into trouble, either legal trouble or trouble with other crews.



arnies is not closed and probably never will
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 03:19 PM

The wife is not related to Amarante. Her name also isn't "Jillian."

She is actually related to Patty Cortez who is Jonny Spina's wife. Spina and Hollinghead were partners in several trucking enterprises - the Spina's may be trembling a bit more than Albie right now actually.
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 06:34 PM

She looks pretty hot....
Posted By: chicagofan75

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 08/28/15 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
The wife is not related to Amarante. Her name also isn't "Jillian."

She is actually related to Patty Cortez who is Jonny Spina's wife. Spina and Hollinghead were partners in several trucking enterprises - the Spina's may be trembling a bit more than Albie right now actually.


This actually adds another lawyer of intrigue. If Hollingshead was still close with the Spina's, either the Spina's are out of the rackets or Pannozzo tried to burglarize Hollingshead's house without permission or they already had suspicions about Hollingshead.

The Spinas are definitely made men and at minimum, former partners of Hollingshead. Therefore, Pannozzo could not burglarize Hollingshead's home without Spina's permission (if they are still active), or he did it without permission, or Hollingshead could not be trusted.

There is definitely a backstory that we do not know here, particular if Hollingshead was still in business with the Spinas. Perhaps there were some issues between Spina and Vena?
Posted By: mrs1Soprano

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/21/15 07:38 PM

Her name is def jillian ! Not Juliana his 55 year old ex ! Let's get the facts straight
Posted By: DanteMoltisanti

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/23/15 10:11 PM

Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
She looks pretty hot....


I was the first to say you were hot on 8/28 wink come on now Jillian!!!???
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/24/15 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
She looks pretty hot....


I was the first to say you were hot on 8/28 wink come on now Jillian!!!???


Thanks.. I know wink
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 03:35 AM

But FYI I'm a good girl.....
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 04:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Thewife
But FYI I'm a good girl.....


What's your opinion of Joe the Shark?
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 04:29 AM

Well he got the judge on my husbands case to sign my 15k bond over to him without my permission. He forged my signature,... So ya that's what I think of him. Plus my goal is to put him in jail next to his buddy's .... Hahahaha bye bye joe ....
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 04:33 AM

And it's not even like I have to try .. The evidence is right there... He works with all the gangbangers and mob guys and corrupt cops leaking info back and forth. I had to deal with his [BadWord] wife and she is just as corrupt as him. Although I recently heard she's tucking his money just in case he gets busted.
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 04:37 AM

Originally Posted By: chicagofan75
Originally Posted By: ChiTown
The wife is not related to Amarante. Her name also isn't "Jillian."

She is actually related to Patty Cortez who is Jonny Spina's wife. Spina and Hollinghead were partners in several trucking enterprises - the Spina's may be trembling a bit more than Albie right now actually.


This actually adds another lawyer of intrigue. If Hollingshead was still close with the Spina's, either the Spina's are out of the rackets or Pannozzo tried to burglarize Hollingshead's house without permission or they already had suspicions about Hollingshead.

The Spinas are definitely made men and at minimum, former partners of Hollingshead. Therefore, Pannozzo could not burglarize Hollingshead's home without Spina's permission (if they are still active), or he did it without permission, or Hollingshead could not be trusted.

There is definitely a backstory that we do not know here, particular if Hollingshead was still in business with the Spinas. Perhaps there were some issues between Spina and Vena?



Bobby def did NOT get permission from ably.. That's why he's disowned at this point...
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 04:40 AM

And he won't even give up anyone to save his 22 year old son from life in prison... Poor kid. He was so young. When I first met him I thought he was just a little kid, but his dad got him addicted to oxys, hence his future behavior....
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 08:35 AM

The Shark basically only takes one kind of client, and he's been suspect for a long time. Still, back in the day, the Outfit had a whole school of sharks, not just one, so we could say that's an improvement. Then you got a made guy from Elmwood Park making sports videos, and Solly D making a video of himself taking the ice bucket challenge, well, you may not have a need to stay in WPP too long after the feds are done with your case.

In the meantime, appreciate you taking the time to post here and answer questions. As a courtesy I suggest reading the rules because some people who let their emotions get the best of themselves have gotten in online fights that got them banned, and there will always be those people who know how to push buttons. Not that you would lose control of your emotions, but it has been known to happen. smile
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/28/15 02:12 PM

Jill what about Jonny and Christy? Weren't they out there still lookin out for Jeff?
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/29/15 04:19 AM

Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Jill what about Jonny and Christy? Weren't they out there still lookin out for Jeff?


We are related to them. So what would you think?
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 09/29/15 05:22 AM

I would think related or not if they think your talking they aint gonna have no love for you feel me?
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 10/02/15 01:19 AM

Y'all can think anything you want. I could care less. But to make this all clear. Bobby fucked up and ruined things for a lot of people. Everyone knows he went way too far after Jeff got locked up. I've heard he calls people begging for money on his books without success. And has been turned away for bond money .. I mean he only needs 100,000 to get out. Why wouldn't someone pay up for him ? Because they are staying far away from that sneaky piece of crap. He's a disgrace to the outfit.
Posted By: HandsomeStevie

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 10/02/15 04:58 AM

They probably think after Jeff could flip then maybe bobby could too. Bobby sounds like a fuckin snake i wouldnt do shit for him either. Especially if its like a made guy like Vena hes begging. if i was Vena i would steer clear of that dude.
Posted By: Thewife

Re: gangster report: Outfit bust blame on wife - 10/02/15 05:55 AM

Exactly wink
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