Capone's Empire 1925-1932

My previous post named “Al Capones Army” got me thinking about making my own “chart” of Capone’s empire which lists his close underlings, some of his associates, establishments, business enterprises and hideouts. I don’t state that my list is completely accurate because its very hard to tell who was who back in those days. So if anyone has any additional info or found any mistakes in this list, please feel free to contribute.

Boss

Alphonse Capone (top guy in the gang that commanded huge respect and took his cut from every form of illegal or legal enterprises)


Bodyguards

Phil D'Andrea (main bodyguard and trusted advisor)
Frank Rio (most loyal bodyguard and gunman)
Frank Maritote (brother in-law of Al and prime strong-arm man)
Anthony Volpe (long time bodyguard,bookmaker,collector and close friend of Al)
Vincenzo Gilbaldi (bodyguard and top hitman)
Louis Campagna (one of Al’s top bodyguards and advisors)
Jack Bilbo (bodyguard and collector)
Ralph Pierce (one of the top bodyguards,political enforcer and vice overseer)
Fred Morelli (door keeper for Al)
Ronald Kerr (part time bodyguard)
Harry Cullett (Al’s part time bodyguard and also worked as detective)


Chauffeurs

Anthony Cuiringione (Al’s first driver)
Sylvester Barton (Al's chief driver)
Joe Sicalzi (Al’s substitute driver)


Top Advisors

Johnny Torrio (came back from Italy in 1928 and became elder statesman)
James DeAmato (one of Al's top advisors and also there’s a rumour that he was one of Al's spies in case of any internal rebellions)
Alex Greenberg (one of Al's main financial advisors and bootlegging operations)


Top Men

Ralph Capone (top lieutenant, gambling operator,brothel operator and bootlegger)
Frank Nitti (top guy in charge of all strong-arm and 'muscle' operations and also bootlegging)
Jake Guzik (Al’s personal bagman, payoff guy, political fixer ,gambling operator, bootlegger, and brothel operator)
Fischetti brothers (Al's cousins and also advisors,bootleggers, gamblers,managers,plitical enforcers and out of town contacts)
Paul Ricca (strong-arm and 'muscle' operations, bootlegging, labor extortionist,various gang connections and out of town contacts)
John Capone (gambling and bootlegging)
Jimmy Amaratti (Chicago Heights connection)


Muscle Men

Big Ed Stash (top hitman)
John Scalise (top hitman)
Albert Anselmi (top hitman)
Louis Barko (top hitman)
Robert McCullough (top hitman and enforcer)
John Burns (top hitman and bootlegger in Cicero)
Joseph Lolordo (hitman and bodyguard)
Bruno Roti (bomb expert and enforcer)
James Belcastro (bomb expert and enforcer)
Rocco DeStefano (enforcer,robber and bootlegger)
Sylvester Agoglia (close friend of Al, hitman, enforcer and undertaker)
John Armando (constant companion of Vincenzo Gilbaldi in murder)
Danny Stanton (hitman,labor enforcer and bootlegger on the South Side)
James Fawcett (hitman and labor enforcer)
Louis Dorman (hit man and bootlegger)
Louis Russo (hitman and bodyguard)
Fred Rossi (hitman and bodyguard)
James Sammons (hitman and robber)
Tony Accardo (hitman,gambling enforcer and in 1928 became bodyguard for Al)
Pete Pizzo (enforcer and close associate of Ralph Capone)
Danny Vallo (enforcer)
Frank Biege (enforcer)
Sam Hunt (hitman)
Fred Hunter (hitman)
Frank DelBond (hitman)
Clyde Bridges (hitman)
Charles Spizzori (hitman)
Louis Scaramuzza (hitman)
Patsy Tardi (hitman)
Leo Clark (hitman)
Anthony Arasso (hitman)
Rober McCullough (hitman and burglar)
Joe Piza (enforcer)
William Bolton (kidnapper and enforcer)
William Niemoth (robber and enforcer)
Ralph Buglio (hitman)
Frank DeMere (hitman)
Louis Morganno (hitman and bodyguard)
Antonio Trangorello (hitman and manager)
Dominick Nuccio (hitman)
Silvio Belgivello (enforcer and burglar)
Pepe Genaro (bootlegger and hitman in Calumet City)
Louis Clementi (hitman)
Daniel Covico (hitman)
Walter Stevens(enforcer and gun for hire)


Bootleggers

Joe Fusco (Al’s main bootlegger and beer baron)
Carl Torraco (also one of Al's main bootleger and business manager)
John De Bias (bootlegger and robber)
Lawrence Mangano (big time bootlegger and gambling operator on Chicago’s West Side)
Doc Stacey (bootlegger)
John Bolton (bootlegger and robber at Taylor Avenues)
John Genaro (big time bootlegger,robber, bomber and enforcer in Calumet City)
Louis Lipschultz (brother-in-law of Jake Guzik big time beer baron and gambler in the Western suburbs)
Anthony Pinelli(bootlegger in North/West Chicago)
Al Hart(bootlegger)

Gambling Squad

James Mondi (Al's main gambling overseer)
Hyman Levine (chief collector and bookmaker)
Joseph LaCava (one of Al’s main gambling operators from Cicero)
Louis LaCava (one of Al's main gambling operators and field agent from Cicero)
Frankie Pope (also one of Al's main gambling operators in Cicero)
Fifke Corngold (main gambling operator in Cicero)
Louis Cowen (Al's main bondsman,gambling operator and publisher of the Cicero Tribune)
David Russel (gambling operator and collector)
Robert Curry (gambling operator and bootlegger)
Julius Benvenuti (policy racket king)
Pat Manno (gambling operator)
Leslie Kruse (Al's bagman and bookmaker)
Harry Russell (big time gambling operator)
Frank Ryan (big time gambling operator)
Rocco DeGrazia (first started as a driver and after as a gambling operator and enforcer)
Nicholas DeGrazia (gambling operator and enforcer)
August Circella (gambling operator)
Antonio Spano (gambling operator)
Louis Barsoti (gambling operator)
Marty Guilfoyle (gambling operator on North/West Side)


Brothel Operators

Denis Cooney (main brothel chain operator and fixer in the First Ward)
Harry and Sam Guzik (main players in prostitution and brothel chain operators)
Ralph Smith (brothel chain operator)
Phil Kimmle (brothel operator)


Labor Rackets

Murray Humphries (Al's labor extortionist)
Jack White (enforcer in labor extortion)
Joseph Peskin (labor extortionist)
Lawrence Imburgio (enforcer in labor extortion and bootlegger)
Max Caldwell ( labor extortionist)
Ralph O'Hara (labor extortionist)
Fred Evans (labor extortionist)
Joey Glimco(enforcer in labor extortion)
George Barker (enforcer in labor extortion)


Al’s Lawyers

Edward O’Hare (also business partner in gambling)
Michael Allern (Al’s tax lawyer)
Albert Fink (Al’s tax lawyer)
Lawrence Mattingly (Al’s tax lawyer)
Roland Libonati (also a close friend of Al and allegedly involved in race tracks)
Hiram Mendow (allegedly involved in bootlegging also)
Eric Holder
Thomas Nash (the courtroom wizard)
Fritz Gordon


Capone’s Political Force

Bill Thompson (Chicago’s mayor)
John Coughlin(alderman of the First Ward)
Johnny Patton (Al's political force and race track operator)
Morris Eller ( 20th ward)
William Pacelli ( 20th ward)
Joseph Klenha (mayor of Cicero)
Albert Prignano (member of the Chicago City Council)
James Adduci (Capone gang member and 2nd District representative)
Daniel Serritella (City sealer acted as liaison between Capone and the City’s administration)


Police Force

Police Captain Hugh McCarthy
Robert Larris McCullough
James Roger LeFevour
Theodore Svoboda (police captain in Cicero)

Frontmen

Louis Romano(first worked as an enforcer and later as frontman for the Capone gang)
Gus Liebe (main manager for Capone’s establishments)
Matt Capone (Al’s brother and manager in many establishments)
Ralph Cavaliera (frontman and manager)
Mike Allegretti (manager of many establishments)
Nick Circella (manager of establishments)
Charlie Carr (manager of establishment)
Sol Van Praag (brothel owner, manager and first ward politician)
Jimmy Murphy (manager of establishments)
John Drew (manager of out of town establishments)
Harry Madigan (manager of establishments,political enforcer and bootlegger)
Patrick Harding (manager of establishments)
Tony Anton(hotel manager)


Arms Supply

Louis Scaramuzzo (Al's main gun supplier)
Peter Von Frantzius (Chicago’s most famous guns supplier,also his machineguns were found in Fred Burke's possession)


Contact Men

Willie Heeney (Al's main connection with St.Louis gangs and hitman)
Claude Maddox (contact with Chicago’s North Side gangs and out of town gangs)
Tony Capezio (contact with Chicago’s North Side gangs and enforcer)
Anthony Carfano (New York connections)
Frank Milano ( Al’s shakedown artist in Cleveland and former bodyguard)


Out of Town Hitmen

Fred Burke ( top hitman from St. Louis)
Raymond Schulte (top hitman from St.Louis)
Fred Goetz (hitman and bootlegger from St.Louis)
Gus Winkler (hitman and kidnapper from St.Louis)
James Ray (hitman and known robber from St.Louis)
Raymond Nugent (hitman from St.Louis)
Robert Carey (hitman and kidnapper from St.Louis)
Harry Keywell (hitman and bootlegger from Detriot)
Phil Keywell (hitman and bootlegger from Detriot)
George F Lewis (hitman from Detriot)
Eddie Fletcher (hitman from Detriot)


Booze Smuggling Contacts

The Bronfman brothers (provided the Capone gang with Canadian whiskey from 1924 untill 1932)
Bob Calandra and Tom Ciampelletti (provided Chicago’s South Side gangs with Canadian whiskey)
The Sleeman family(English whiskey smugglers for the Capone gang untill 1933)


Capone’s Top Establishments ($35,000,000 gambling profits a year estimated by federal agents)

The Four Deuces (headquarters, brothel and a gambling joint)
The Maple Inn (brothel and a gambling joint)
The Ship (the biggest gambling joint in Cicero)
The Stockade (brothel in Cicero)
The Green Mill Cocktail Lounge (entertainment local)
The Rock Garden Club (gambling joint in Cicero)
The Lauderbacks Club (gambling joint in Cicero)
The Radio Inn (gambling joint in Cicero)
The Cotton Club (gambling joint)
The Belvedere Club (entertainment and bootlegging establishment in Hot Springs)
The Laramie Kennel Club (dog race track)
The Hawthorne Kennel Club (race track in Cicero)
The Miami Beach Kennel Club (race track in Florida)
The Sportsman Park (race track in Northfield,Ohio)
The Oaklawn Park ( race track in Hot Springs)
The Wilows (entertainment and bootlegging establishment in Reno,Nevada)
The Bank Club (gambling joint in Reno,Nevada)
The Rex Hotel (gambling joint in Hurely,Wisconsin)
Silver Street (big time gambling and brothel district in Hurley,Wisconsin)


Beer Breweries ($60,000,000 profits from bootlegging a year estimated by federal agents)

The Roosvelt Road Brewery in Cicero
The Ogden 52nd Avenue Brewery
The West Hammond Brewery
The Stock Yards Brewery
The New City Brewery
The Sleeman Brewery
The Manhattan Brewery
The Bielfeldt Brewery
The Sieben Brewery
The Pfeiffer Brewery
The Atlas Brewery
The Canadian Ace Brewery


Capone’s Main Bank

The Pinkert State bank ( this bank was the main place for the Capone gang in funnelling their dirty cash)


Capone’s Headquarters

The Hawthorne Hotel at 4823 22nd Street, Cicero (Capone’s main headquarters in 1926)
The Anton Hotel at 4835 W. 22nd Street, Cicero (second headquarters in 1926)
The Metropole Hotel at 2300 S. Michigan Avenue (Capone’s main headquarters in 1927)
The Lexington Hotel at 2135 S. Michigan Avenue (Capone’s main headquarters in 1928 until 1931)


Capone’s Hideouts

Montrose Court Apartment complex (part time headquarters in 1926,1927 and 1929 Johnson City “Little Chicago”, Tennessee)

The John Sevier Hotel (part time headquarters in 1926,1927 and 1929 Johnson City “Little Chicago”, Tennessee)

The Hilton Milwaukee City Center (part time headquarters and residence in 1928 Milwaukee)

The Royal Pines Hotel (Al’s hideout at Crystal Lake. This was the only hotel stop in the 1920s between New York and Atlantic City)

The Allegan Hospital (medical center in Michigan owned by a doctor who allegedly had ties to Al Capone,and it was used by him and his men when they needed to get away from Chicago or needed medical help)

Residence at the Letterkenny Road in Quadeville, Canada ( Capone used this place as hideout and business arrangements)

Residence in Northwoods Wisconsin (Capone used this place as hideout in 1927)

French Lick Springs Resort (French Lick, Indiana)

Residence at Caloosahatche River,Florida ( Capone used this place as a hideout and theres even a photo taken there in the late 1920s or early 1930s. Capone didn’t use his Miami Beach mansion at 93 Palm Avenue as a hideout because every rival and law enforcement knew the place)

Capone also had several other hideouts located in Minnesota; Olean, New York; Dubuque, Iowa; Jacksonville, Florida; Grand Haven, Michigan and Lansing, Michigan.

which time period are you exactly talking about? 1926-1931?

as always, great work!

It says 1925-1932.Why?

oh, i overlooked it. thanks

No problem man and thanks

joey aiuppa is missing

Yeah i thought of that but the thing is i really dont know where to place him.Maybe as an enforcer?What do you think?

there are nearly 0 reliable sources about aiuppas wild years, because his first arrest was in 1935 for suspicion of attempted murder.
he was most probably a heavy hitter (connected to dillinger and the karpis gang) and was known for controlling gambling in cicero and suspected by the fbi as prostitution-kingpin aswell. from 1930 onwards he owned numerous clubs and gambling joints

Thats true,i cant find no records about him during the Capone era.Thats why i didnt put him on the list.I know that he was involved with many independent gangs and thats it...

I added Abthony Pinelli as a bootleger during the Capone era from the North/West side.Later he was promoted and took his operations to Gary,Indiana

personally, i estimate the number of greased cops and political fixers much MUCH higher as we have names in your list. what do you personally think toodooped? what was he REAL number?

You are absolutely right.The number of corrupted cops was much higher and we cannot tell the real number.Ive only listed some police captains that had major role in Capones protection

I also added...

The Stockade (brothel in Cicero)

Robert Carey (hitman and kidnapper from St.Louis)

Tony Anton(hotel manager)

Theodore Svoboda (police captain in Cicero)

Marty Guilfoyle (gambling operator on North/West Side)

Anthony Pinelli(bootlegger in North/West Chicago)

Walter Stevens(enforcer and gun for hire)

He had several run ins with the law in the early 30s.
Dec of '33 he was indicted as a co-conspirator in the TNT shakedown(Trucking n Transportation). They were extorting coal yards by holding up deliveries. At that time he was an official with Teamsters local 782 Maywood and had O'brien listed as an alias.
In Jan 0f '34, a Joseph Aiuppa was picked up and released in Bellwood as a suspicious character in the vicinity of the house the cops were killing Handsome Jack Klutas in.
In May of '35, in a retrial he was found not guilty of the TNT charges.
June of '35 were the assault with intent charges in Berwyn, which were dismissed. Two days later he was picked up in Oak Park on general suspicion.
In Aug he would be picked up as part of a group suspected of robbing country clubs. He would be released when he told the cops he worked for Johnny Moore (AKA Claude Maddox) Three of the guys picked up with him (including an 18yo Rocco Pranno) would confess. All three were also suspected of robbing the Villa Park Bank.

This gives me the impression that he was definitely on the police radar at the time and already had enough clout to wiggle out the charges.

i meant BEFORE 1930, his time under capone.

Do you have a source to link Edward O’Hare to Capone regarding anything other than the dogtrack(s)?

Also when it comes to Hot Springs, AR:
What source do you have linking him to ownership in the Belvedere Club or Oaklawn Park? There were atleast 6 more casinos, why no stake in them?

He had a room rented year round on the fourth floor (412 or 442) at the Arlington Hotel in Hot Springs.

Not saying I dont believe you I would just like to see the sources. Gambling in Hot Springs was only allowed because it was home grown, not brought in by out of town gangster elements.

The only famous gangster I've ever found to have interests in Hot Springs casinos is Owney Madden, who lived there for decades and is buried there. Over the years he had up to 25% interest in almost all of the casinos, at various times. He also fought for control of the wire service with the local politians.

The informations mostly came from Virgil Petersons testimony at the Kefauver hearings in 1950.He states that the syndicates czar of dog racing in Chicago and Florida during the Capone period was Edward J. O'Hare. He used to be connected with William Johnston and John Patton(the boy mayor of Burnham)at the Sportsman Park and they were the owners of many race tracks.Patton, O'Hare and Jack Guzik were also involved in the operation at the Laramie Kennel Club and the Hawthorne Kennel Club.Also in 1929, an indictment was returned in criminal court,charging O'Hare, and others with conspiracy in offering perjured testimony as to betting at dog tracks in Illinois.

I dont have any info on O'Hares involvment in the Oaklawn park,but i have infos that Ralph Capone had his shares in it.

The Belvedere club was a night club which was often visited by Al himself.Many belive that Al and Joe Kennedy used the club to manufacture and sell illegal booze.This info comes from Robert Raines book on Hot Springs underworld.

Do you have a source to link Edward O’Hare to Capone regarding anything other than the dogtrack(s)? Did he ever represent Capone in any way as a lawyer? He was more of a front man, was he not? Just my opinion. There is no doubt that O'Hare was involved in numerous dogtracks.

Love to see what you have about Bottles having an interest in Oaklawn park, the same family(Cella) has owned it since the 1910s. I could see them having stakes in horses or something along those lines but Capone was known for just blowing his money on gambling and gifts.

The Belvedere still stands, it has a decent golf course on it. If you go into FBI files from the era they go against a lot of Raines claims. Ive never read his books but the museum is a little far fetched. I mean do you really believe that Luciano, Lansky, and Costello sent Madden down to Hot Springs in 1935 to start a gambling racket? There had been organized gambling in the region for decades by then. Leo and the politians were the bosses, thats why the gangsters loved hanging out down there.

If Al was going to own a stake in any of the clubs I would think it to be the Ohio Club(which was named Al Capone's at one time) or the Southern Club(which there is a clear veiw of from his room at the Arlingtion).


Once again Im not trying to argue with you, I would just rather see some type of source or proof other than word of mouth.

Where's Sam giacanna, capone first met him in a brothel and used him as a driver, button man and numbers guy, also his lawyer abraham...to my understanding abe was recommended to capone by his brother ralph after his release from alcatraz

Hello ,my name is Patrick McCullough.My dad was Big Bob McCullough who started Al when Johnnie Torrio asked my dad to show him around .My Dad was with Johnnie after he left the black hand gang.my dad and Al hit it off and were best friends till the day Al passed on his estate on palm Island in Miami Beach.Al liked the fame ,my dad took care of business.and would hide out in Cedar Lake Ind about 10 miles from Crown Point .When Dillinger got arrested they held him in Crown Point jail where he carved a gun out of soap to excape.Two things wrong with story .1) what did he use to carve a huge bar of soap with...empty cell and 2) what did he use to dye the soap with to make it black.the Truth is my dad knrew all the cops in that area and bribed them with 10,000 dollars with the comment of...I don't care what you say on how he got awayu but I want him with me and Al at Sportsman tomorrowMy Dad was one of the shooters of St Valentines day..Exact words was damn guys cant'shoot and get the job done right .Many outer facts from union elections to when he a Nitti went to Hollywood to take it over .Extorted a million from a producer who went to Washington .Frank got indicted ,my dad didn't .Frank killed himself because he didn't want to go back to jail.He commented on the safe opening telling them we didn't need anyhidden staircases or vaults....WE OWNED CHICAGO..Never arrested or trialed for anything.Best friend was Ohare also .History has itall wrong..Could go on for days about this subject

Hi, my name is Colonel Robert R. McCormick and I started a little newspaper in Chicago back in the 1920's... perhaps you have heard of it?
http://www.chicagotribune.com

Ah really? My dad was Jake Guzik... god rest his soul I miss him.

Do you have any photos of your dad with Capone or anyone that you could post?

@Hulk: Please, feel free. And thank you for stopping by.

I really dont think that O'Hare had any other criminal activites other than the dog tracks.He never represented Capone directly but he represented other Capone members on many occasions.O'Hare solved many legal problems for the Capone gang,mostly in the areas of gambling,real estate, stock transactions and money laundering.In a two year period,O'Hare managed to dismiss gambling charges against more than 5,000 defendants.He also represented many people who in fact revolutionized the racing tracks and patented the mechanical rabbit.We cannot consider him as a frontman because he knew the inner workings of the gang very well,and thats why he was the key informant for the Capone trial,which later led to his own demise.All of these infos come from Capone's trial and the Kefauver hearings in 1950.

@thebigfella Giancana was too young during the Capone period as boss.Yes maybe he was hired a few times to do some dirty work but still he wasnt considered as a member of the gang or close associate.

As for attorney Abraham Teitelbaum,i already have him on the list

@Hulk As for your dad Robert McCullough,was he only considered as a tuff enforcer or he had other illegal activities also?

Joking aside, I echo Alpha_Romeo and Faithful1, Hulk... please tell us more and absolutely post some pics if you have some. You definitely have our attention, sir.

My point about abe is that he was introduced to al by his brother ralph after his release from alcatraz not before

@ hulk: who put the hit on fast eddie

Thats not true.He was a family lawyer for the Capones since the early 30's and knew Al before Alcatraz.

Heres a proof..


Teitelbaum(on the left) and Capone(on the right).THis picture is taken beofre Al went to jail for tax evasion

Any sources in the book on Hot Springs? Just like to know before I buy it.

Sounds like O'Hare should be in the top men list.

@toodoped: that picture was taken after capone was released from prison, they called capone back to court in florida to find out when he will pay the rest of his taxes and that was abe explaining everything to him, I read nothing that says abe knew al before he went to prison, abe was ralph lawyer in the early 30's, he never represented al before alcatraz

You can look at that picture and tell al capone was older and slimmer

I checked the picture and looks like you r right about it.Its taken in 1941,thanks for clearing that up @thebigfella.You are right about their relationship before Alcatraz and maybe i should delete Abe from the list.

But theres one old article from the LIFE magazine in 1951 which still gives me the doubts,quote "Ten years ago(meaning in 1941)Abraham enjoyed a good laught with his OLD friend and FORMER client Al Capone..." and also another newspaper article that says Abe had many underworld connections with top figures during the mid 30's.There also reports that Al's mother knew Abe since 1930.Also in 1932 Abe was ivolved in labor relations.

Either way since theres no other hard evidence ill delete Abe from the list.

I think that the Raines book is a very good read and you should check it out.

As for O'Hare being in the top man list,i think that its too much because he had only connections in the race tracks.Guys like Ralph or the Fischetti bros had their hands in every criminal enterprise

@toodoped: at that point in al capone life many media reports was saying al was crazy and stayed at his mansion steering at the walls, when capone showed up for court that day with his brother ralph is surprised everyone because al had a cigar in his mouth and he was dressed to the 9's with a huge smile on his face he was about to answer one of the reporters questions but abe stopped him

no jack mcgurn? he wasnt close to al i take it.

He is on the list under his real name

Good work Toodoped Tony Accardo was a Top Bodyguard in the late 1920s . Do you think Tony Saved Al life in that drive by they say after that he was with Al all the time as his top bodyguard

I would place my bet on Frank Rio

well ty for telling me his real name appreciate it

Nice list Toodoped. But shouldn't Tony Capezio be on the list?

We Will Never know Maybe Both was there there no doubt he like both so they Must of Done Some Thing Right For Him A Lot of Killing

He is on the list as contact man

What information do you have on the o'hare murder? Who ordered it and why?

He informed on Capone to try and get his son into West Point or something like that. His murder could not even be connected to Capone considering he wwas murdered in 1939. But like everything else in Chicago it gets wrapped up with the name Capone.

My problem with Raines is it seems like he got most his info off wiki or along those lines.

Hot Springs was a spot for r and r not investment. Capone golfed with Drucci there. Lost money at a casino and signed an IOU.

Giancan was old enough to be sought for questioning concerning the St Valentins Massacre in 1929. This would lead me to believe the police considered him to be connected to Capone.

The 42 gang wasn't connected to Capone mob until 1932. Before that they were "hired" by numerous other gangsters such as the Gennas, Jack Zuta or the Aiellos. During the mid 1930's, one of the first members that was "made" into the Capone mob or the newly formed Chicago Outfit, was Sam Battaglia and maybe Louis Fratto if we consider him also a member or at least associate to the 42's since they all grew up in the same area. According to informants Giancana was “made” just prior to going to prison in 1939, so i don't believe that he had any connections to the old Capone mob in the late 1920's. He was 21 years old at the time and there's no hard evidence that he was a member.

It's too bad that this Patrick McCullough never came back to the forum, but I think that by claiming his father was a relatively obscure figure it suggests he was credible.



Here's some links about Robert Larry (Big Bob) McCullough:

https://books.google.com/books?id=m5cbT_sNq9AC&pg=PA133&lpg=PA133&dq=%22Robert+McCullough%22+Capone&source=bl&ots=OnmeoFLGvb&sig=ALw6peoD_FL9dn1QG3j5G_sHbqs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiXo_iLuPnKAhUCt4MKHRGMAZoQ6AEIIjAB#v=onepage&q=%22Robert%20McCullough%22%20Capone&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=AfE1DZjVKEEC&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=%22Big+Bob+McCullough%22&source=bl&ots=cYwbUxdHhN&sig=w9ulJTo9XSZzHfAB2Noo80K8Jg4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiluP3EtvnKAhVFvIMKHUIZCJoQ6AEIKDAC#v=onepage&q=%22Big%20Bob%20McCullough%22&f=false

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1950/10/14/page/7/article/slaying-quiz

https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmanac/document.php?id=cqal50-1378391

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1956/11/11/page/371/article/the-mob-goes-legit

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2245&dat=19890126&id=kpozAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lTIHAAAAIBAJ&pg=6274,3008033&hl=en

Well atleast you don't subscribe to the notion that Capone ran the whole town and everything in it.

And i don't think Capone bought into the whole made/capos structure, he ran a gang, be it a large gang with a lot of different types shapes and homelands.

According to some sources, Capone was "made" by the New York Mafia, or to be exact, he was made by the Masseria clan.But since the Chicago Outfit (Nitti, Ricca, Mangano, Fischetti,D'Andrea, Ralph Capone)was born from the old Capone gang,which was a large gang or mob formed by mobsters from various ethnicites and city areas, because of that the crime group always had non-Italians as members of the organization.During the time period of 1933/34 until 1975/76 the Outfit had only elements of a Cosa Nostra type of organization such as the hirearchy and the flow and directions of illegal money within the crime group. But during the mid 1970's the Outfit transformed into a typical Italian crime organization with the secret ceremonies, rituals and such.

by mid 70s you mean as soon as aiuppa took over? At least thats what ive concluded for myself before. But some even doubt nicks testimony during family secrets about the ceremony

Yeah thats right. I dont know who or what influenced the bosses to make the Outfit more traditional, but i dont believe it was Aiuppa who made the decision by himself.

Maybe as Gus Alex was the only non Italian High power left that why they started to go Traditional. Before there was so many non Italians in a High Position back in the day