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Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run?

Posted By: 116th_street

Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 02:40 AM

In this article about Whitey, the picture of him in Alcatraz is allegedly taken while he was only a few weeks into his life on the run? Do you really think he would take such a risk so short into his escape?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/17/justic...ger8pVODtopLink
Posted By: merlino

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 07:13 AM

I think he may because he was a sociopath
Posted By: merlino

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 07:19 AM

Will watch CNN special on him tonite watched the pay per view version over the summer and that was excellent
Posted By: Red_63

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 08:47 AM

Originally Posted By: merlino
Will watch CNN special on him tonite watched the pay per view version over the summer and that was excellent


They had a pay per view for whitey? When he had been at large for that long and given his age... I think he had one medical condition .. I was kinda surprised when they caught him. My friend (not knowing who he was) use to deliver sandwiches too him and he'd always pay with $2 bills
Posted By: 116th_street

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 09:25 AM

I guess he was in a mental state to do it, but he could not have been stupid either. And I would say that if he went back there on the lam, it was stupid. But who knows
Posted By: merlino

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Red_63
Originally Posted By: merlino
Will watch CNN special on him tonite watched the pay per view version over the summer and that was excellent


They had a pay per view for whitey? When he had been at large for that long and given his age... I think he had one medical condition .. I was kinda surprised when they caught him. My friend (not knowing who he was) use to deliver sandwiches too him and he'd always pay with $2 bills


Pay per view is probably still up it is really good, it was like $7 or $9. Did your friend deliver to him in southern cali or in boston?
Posted By: Bennie_The_Ball

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: 116th_street
In this article about Whitey, the picture of him in Alcatraz is allegedly taken while he was only a few weeks into his life on the run? Do you really think he would take such a risk so short into his escape?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/17/justic...ger8pVODtopLink


That picture is from a vacation before he took off. He went on the run with his other girl Catherine Greig. Teresa Stanley, the mother-in-law of former NHLer Chris Nilan,did not go with Whitey.
Posted By: Binnie_Coll

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 02:02 PM

binnie the ball, nice little video. thank you for posting it. not much is said about his brother, a power in the state senate. or how much he helped whitey. brother was a bigger crook than he was, only never convicted.
Posted By: merlino

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/18/14 04:46 PM

watching cnn video it is same as pay per view
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/20/14 01:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Bennie_The_Ball
Originally Posted By: 116th_street
In this article about Whitey, the picture of him in Alcatraz is allegedly taken while he was only a few weeks into his life on the run? Do you really think he would take such a risk so short into his escape?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/17/justic...ger8pVODtopLink


That picture is from a vacation before he took off. He went on the run with his other girl Catherine Greig. Teresa Stanley, the mother-in-law of former NHLer Chris Nilan,did not go with Whitey.


Yep that was a vacation pic while he was still the man in Southie.

Merlino I just bootlegged the damn documentary yesterday and as soon as I finished watched it I happened to flip to CNN and seen that they were showing it for free. Pissed me off! lol
Posted By: PetroPirelli

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 03:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Red_63
My friend (not knowing who he was) use to deliver sandwiches too him and he'd always pay with $2 bills


Come on! Why $2 dollar bills? He ran out of ones? He would of had one of his old hags convert the bills to not draw attention to himself panic.
Posted By: Holyoke

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 07:50 AM

He was definitely a rat/informant. He was meeting with FBI agents for over 20 years. While he probably did "play" them, there's just NO way he wasn't giving them info. Either way, I'd say Whitey got off easy.. He's gonna die in prison but he didn't get caught until he was in his 80's.
Posted By: Holyoke

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 07:52 AM

I meant to post this in the "Was Whitey a rat" thread. My bad.
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 08:16 AM

Originally Posted By: 116th_street
In this article about Whitey, the picture of him in Alcatraz is allegedly taken while he was only a few weeks into his life on the run? Do you really think he would take such a risk so short into his escape?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/17/justic...ger8pVODtopLink


Who gives a f .
Posted By: 116th_street

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 10:27 AM

I posted it because I thought it was interesting. What's with the attitude?
Posted By: Wilson101

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 11:07 AM

Don't mind him. probably just on his period
Posted By: 116th_street

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 12:20 PM

Thought so to:)
Posted By: merlino

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Bennie_The_Ball
Originally Posted By: 116th_street
In this article about Whitey, the picture of him in Alcatraz is allegedly taken while he was only a few weeks into his life on the run? Do you really think he would take such a risk so short into his escape?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/17/justic...ger8pVODtopLink


That picture is from a vacation before he took off. He went on the run with his other girl Catherine Greig. Teresa Stanley, the mother-in-law of former NHLer Chris Nilan,did not go with Whitey.


Yep that was a vacation pic while he was still the man in Southie.

Merlino I just bootlegged the damn documentary yesterday and as soon as I finished watched it I happened to flip to CNN and seen that they were showing it for free. Pissed me off! lol


Only reason documentary was better was it was unfiltered for everyone involved in the program as opposed to cnn's version
Posted By: dixiemafia

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/22/14 02:27 PM

Yea I imagine there was some beeps or mouth blurs on the CNN version.
Posted By: NNY78

Re: Did Whitey really visit Alcatraz while on the run? - 09/30/14 07:32 AM

Are the Feds trying to avoid compensating Bulger's victims?

Feds plan to call Whitey Bulger's girlfriend to face grand jury in hunt for his assets

Federal authorities plan to call James “Whitey” Bulger’s girlfriend before a federal grand jury in a bid to force her to help them locate money and other valuables the gangster may have stashed around the world, according to two people familiar with the case.Catherine Greig, 63, who is serving an eight-year prison term for helping Bulger evade capture for more than 16 years, was transferred earlier this month from the federal penitentiary in Waseca, Minn., to the state-run Donald W. Wyatt Detention Facility in Central Falls, R.I., according to a person who is close to the Bulger and Greig families. A US Bureau of Prisons website also notes that Greig is no longer in its custody.Greig has been told that she will be placed before a federal grand jury in Boston that is attempting to track Bulger’s hidden assets, which would be distributed among the families of the gangster’s victims, according to the person close to the family, who asked not to be identified.

Greig has insisted that she does not know of any secret stashes by Bulger, now 85.It is unclear when Greig would appear before the grand jury.A Waseca penitentiary official said Sunday that authorities could not provide any further details about Greig, who is slated to finish her sentence in June 2018.Christina DiIorio Sterling, a spokeswoman for the US attorney’s office, said Sunday, “We cannot confirm grand jury investigations or Ms. Greig’s whereabouts.”However, after Bulger was sentenced to two consecutive life sentences last November for participating in 11 slayings, prosecutors said they planned to aggressively pursue his assets and could convene a grand jury in an effort to compel people to testify.Patricia Donahue, whose husband, Michael, was gunned down by Bulger in 1982 while giving a ride home to the gangster’s intended target, said she doubted that Greig, who has been steadfastly loyal to the gangster, would cooperate with authorities against him. Still, Donahue said she was happy that investigators were trying to track the gangster’s money.“I am glad to see the government is finally doing something about it and not just letting it go,” she said. “I don’t think she’s going to tell them a thing, but it would be nice if she did.”

Greig, a former dental hygienist who, like Bulger, was raised in South Boston, began dating the gangster in the mid-1970s and joined him on the run in early 1995.Bulger, one of the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted, and Greig quietly lived in a rent-controlled apartment in Santa Monica, Calif., just two blocks from the beach, until they were captured in June 2011. Agents found $822,000 cash and 30 guns hidden in the walls of the apartment.
After Greig pleaded guilty in June 2012 to conspiracy to harbor a fugitive, conspiracy to commit identity fraud, and identity fraud, her lawyer said she was in love with Bulger and “absolutely stands by her man.”Former assistant US attorney Brian T. Kelly, who was part of the Bulger prosecution team, would not comment on any grand jury proceeding, but said it was logical for investigators to press Greig for information.“The one person who is in the best position to know where Bulger’s money is, is Catherine Greig, so it makes sense that the government would seek to question her,” said Kelly, a partner in the law firm Nixon Peabody. “It’s public record that he used safe deposit boxes in several locations and it stands to reason there might be another one out there, and that’s why it’s likely they want to question her.”

Bulger was convicted last year of participating in 11 murders, drug trafficking, and other crimes while operating a sprawling criminal organization in Boston from the 1970s through the 1990s. He is currently incarcerated at the Coleman II federal penitentiary in Sumterville, Fla. In addition to the two life sentences, he was ordered by a judge to pay $19.5 million in restitution to his victims and to forfeit another $25.2 million to the government.The forfeiture judgment allows prosecutors to seize all of Bulger’s assets, including a $50,000 diamond claddagh ring and the $822,000 seized from his California apartment, and future profits the gangster might make from selling his life story. Prosecutors have pledged to split the profits among the families of Bulger’s victims.Bulger’s attorney Hank Brennan said he was aware that Greig had been transferred to the Rhode Island prison, but did not know anything about the new federal grand jury investigation. He criticized the government for failing to give Bulger’s victims a share of any of the assets it seized from Bulger and his associates while the gangster was on the run, or even disclosing how much had been located.“We’ve never received an accounting of how much money they’ve taken that’s attributed to Bulger,” Brennan said. “It’s been almost 20 years and they’ve never provided the families or the public an accounting, so perhaps now the time has come to do that.”

While Bulger was on the run, the government netted $2 million from Bulger’s share of a 1991 lottery ticket, $99,335 from a BayBank safe deposit box, and $106,709 from the sale of Bulger’s condominium in Clearwater, Fla., according to court filings. The FBI seized $50,000 from a safe deposit box belonging to Bulger in London. Agents also seized the contents of safe deposit boxes believed to belong to Bulger in Florida, Ireland, and Canada.Since his capture, Bulger has written letters from prison professing his love for Greig and blasting the government for sentencing her to eight years in prison.He confided to a longtime friend, who shared the letter with the Globe, that Greig had managed to do what the criminal justice system couldn’t: “Got me to live crime free 16 years — for this they should give her a medal.”Shawn Donahue, whose father was killed by Bulger, said he doubted Greig would say anything to the grand jury.“She’s one of the only people that isn’t ratting,” he said. “All of [Bulger’s] other friends ratted on him. She’ll do her time and that’s it.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/09...PfeP/story.html
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