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Rise of the Ndrangheta

Posted By: FireHawk

Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 01:31 AM

im fascinated about how a orginization that started in southern Italy rose to become the most powerful CO in Europe and some say even the world, its certently one of the wealthiest...to dominate the european drug trade..

how did it do it, was alot of it geographical advantages, or sheer intelligence/cunningness, making power plays etc.?
Posted By: FireHawk

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 04:04 AM

i assume it was a plethora of factors
Posted By: SonnyBlackstein

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 04:54 AM

Poverty, organisation, drugs and associated drug money and power. Endemic political and law enforcement corruption. Gateway to Europe. Geographical Gateway from Asia to Europe and NA.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: FireHawk
im fascinated about how a orginization that started in southern Italy rose to become the most powerful CO in Europe and some say even the world, its certently one of the wealthiest...to dominate the european drug trade..

how did it do it, was alot of it geographical advantages, or sheer intelligence/cunningness, making power plays etc.?


A combination of government efforts focused on their Sicilian cousins for so many years, their international reach, as well as them forming extremely strong ties with groups in South America to take advantage of Europe's growing cocaine trade.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: FireHawk
im fascinated about how a orginization that started in southern Italy rose to become the most powerful CO in Europe and some say even the world, its certently one of the wealthiest...to dominate the european drug trade..

how did it do it, was alot of it geographical advantages, or sheer intelligence/cunningness, making power plays etc.?


There is no organization called 'Ndrangheta.
That is simply a blanket name for a loosely connected collection of gangs.
There is no central structure, no organization and no hiarchey, and while they do weild some power in southern Italy, their global influence is highley over stated
Posted By: m2w

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 07:46 PM

inform yourself the arm
ndrangheta is highly organized and with a central structure and it run several italian cities included milan, turin, genoa and rome and it has cells in several european countries canada australia the states
Posted By: carmela

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 07:52 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
inform yourself the arm
ndrangheta is highly organized and with a central structure and it run several italian cities included milan, turin, genoa and rome and it has cells in several european countries canada australia the states


Although, Buscetta said there is no 'ndrangheta and no camorra, and that the alliance that defeated Raffaele Cutolo was cosa nostra. He also said the most powerful people in 'ndrangheta are also cosa nostra.
Posted By: m2w

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 07:55 PM

yes but the calabrians have their own organization and its very organized, although you call them ndrangheta, santa or calabrian cosa nostra
Posted By: carmela

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 08:01 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
yes but the calabrians have their own organization and its very organized, although you call them ndrangheta, santa or calabrian cosa nostra


Do you believe that La Santa is actually made up of cosa nostra?
Posted By: m2w

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 08:06 PM

in the past yes i don't know today
Posted By: LaLouisiane

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 08:49 PM

They say judge the organization by its actions, well in the past year 'Ndrangheta has been caught moving some serious weight in narcotics. I remember someone posting last year about what was it 7 tons of coke being caught on a ship headed for an Italian Port if I remember correct? If they aren't organized moving that kind of weight for billions of dollars then I'm no longer sure what organized means...
Posted By: carmela

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 08:54 PM

Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
They say judge the organization by its actions, well in the past year 'Ndrangheta has been caught moving some serious weight in narcotics. I remember someone posting last year about what was it 7 tons of coke being caught on a ship headed for an Italian Port if I remember correct? If they aren't organized moving that kind of weight for billions of dollars then I'm no longer sure what organized means...


Of course it's organized. They just use a horizontal structure, not the conventional top to bottom.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: carmela
They just use a horizontal structure, not the conventional top to bottom.

That's true. My wife is Calabrese, and she hates being on top.
Posted By: carmela

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: carmela
They just use a horizontal structure, not the conventional top to bottom.

That's true. My wife is Calabrese, and she hates being on top.


As soon as it left my fingers, I knew someone would say it. grin
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 10:22 PM

Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
They say judge the organization by its actions, well in the past year 'Ndrangheta has been caught moving some serious weight in narcotics. I remember someone posting last year about what was it 7 tons of coke being caught on a ship headed for an Italian Port if I remember correct? If they aren't organized moving that kind of weight for billions of dollars then I'm no longer sure what organized means...


Of course it's organized. They just use a horizontal structure, not the conventional top to bottom.



LOL....Like Abruzese women !
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 10:26 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
inform yourself the arm
ndrangheta is highly organized and with a central structure and it run several italian cities included milan, turin, genoa and rome and it has cells in several european countries canada australia the states


There is no central structure and no hierarchy.....It is a blanket name for autonomous gangs most of whom have no contact with one another.
It is a term more closely comparable to “gangster” than Casa Nostra
Posted By: carmela

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Originally Posted By: m2w
inform yourself the arm
ndrangheta is highly organized and with a central structure and it run several italian cities included milan, turin, genoa and rome and it has cells in several european countries canada australia the states


There is no central structure and no hierarchy.....It is a blanket name for autonomous gangs most of whom have no contact with one another.
It is a term more closely comparable to “gangster” than Casa Nostra


You really need to stop with this now.
Posted By: Dellacroce

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 10:42 PM

Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
They say judge the organization by its actions, well in the past year 'Ndrangheta has been caught moving some serious weight in narcotics. I remember someone posting last year about what was it 7 tons of coke being caught on a ship headed for an Italian Port if I remember correct? If they aren't organized moving that kind of weight for billions of dollars then I'm no longer sure what organized means...


Of course it's organized. They just use a horizontal structure, not the conventional top to bottom.


First off dont even bother wit da arm guys a fugazzy!

Second,not to question our Sicilian princess(and if im wrong just tell me to shut da fuck up about it), hasnt it come out that after a lot more investigating that the Ndrangheta has a more vertical hierarchy then previously thought and that its the camorra thats more horizantal?
Posted By: Five_Felonies

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/18/14 10:55 PM

if word get back to italy the way the arm has been talking than i wouldn't be surprised if the next time he's in canada on "business" he gets kidnapped. arm, brace yourself for the searing pain of calabrian chili's in your pee pee. ain't nuttin da calzone can do to fix it either pal. smile
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
if word get back to italy the way the arm has been talking than i wouldn't be surprised if the next time he's in canada on "business" he gets kidnapped. arm, brace yourself for the searing pain of calabrian chili's in your pee pee. ain't nuttin da calzone can do to fix it either pal. smile


yeah...they all know who "The ARM" is...and even if they did, I when they came at me I could throw a bag of smack and a $10 bill on the floor and they would all be on their hands and knees, and I would calmly walk away
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 04:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
They say judge the organization by its actions, well in the past year 'Ndrangheta has been caught moving some serious weight in narcotics. I remember someone posting last year about what was it 7 tons of coke being caught on a ship headed for an Italian Port if I remember correct? If they aren't organized moving that kind of weight for billions of dollars then I'm no longer sure what organized means...


Of course it's organized. They just use a horizontal structure, not the conventional top to bottom.


First off dont even bother wit da arm guys a fugazzy!

Second,not to question our Sicilian princess(and if im wrong just tell me to shut da fuck up about it), hasnt it come out that after a lot more investigating that the Ndrangheta has a more vertical hierarchy then previously thought and that its the camorra thats more horizantal?


Son...First...don't embarass yourself
Second..no, no such thing has come out and if it has on some dumb ass documentary on cable, it is bullshit. There is no organization called 'Ndrangheta, no central control, no structure, no hiarchey.
Anything eklse is pure fantasy
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 04:14 PM

Is it time for more Arm spastic hysteria? I think it might just be.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: slumpy
Is it time for more Arm spastic hysteria? I think it might just be.


methinks you suffer from a clinical case of projection complex my frind..I state facts cool and calmly...you and your ilk burst blood vessals.
All I can think of when I hear the 'Ndrangheta fantasy is "Carlos the Jackel"
He was a south American "terrorist" in the 70s and 80s. He was the Boogie man, the most dangerous man in the world, he was credited with killings and bombing all over the world, etc....In the end...turns out he killed one guy in France over a guns for drugs deal gone bad, tried to kill an Isreali diplomat but never got within a mile of him, and shot and wounded a member of the Popular front for the liberation of Palastine, and was wounded himself....thats it.
This 'Ndrangheta fantasy is both amusing and silly.
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 04:38 PM

my ilk? what ilk would that be? People who don't pretend to be associated with organized crime families to (attempt to) impress people on an online community?

Last I checked the ability to communicate effectively without the use of profanity was how one displayed their calm, cool, collectedness. And, might I add that a "projection complex" is Algebra jargon, not the state of projecting ones insecurities onto others. Further, projection is a theory devised by one Sigmund Freud who has largely been denounced by modern psychology/psychiatry.

But of course, you knew all that, right? Or should we end this ridiculous charade?
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: slumpy
my ilk? what ilk would that be? People who don't pretend to be associated with organized crime families to (attempt to) impress people on an online community?

Last I checked the ability to communicate effectively without the use of profanity was how one displayed their calm, cool, collectedness. And, might I add that a "projection complex" is Algebra jargon, not the state of projecting ones insecurities onto others. Further, projection is a theory devised by one Sigmund Freud who has largely been denounced by modern psychology/psychiatry.

But of course, you knew all that, right? Or should we end this ridiculous charade?



See, there goes you blood presure rising again, and your projection kicking in again
Your ilk, is actually people who hear things second and third hand, and try to pass it off as irrefutable forst hand knowledge. That never works with people, like myself, who actually know what they are talking about. It just makes you look silly.
For the record, I am the type of guy who uses profanity when I am perfectly calm, if I am angey or upset, I become very articulate and a master wordsmith.
I told you before Corkey, I am the best connected guy someone like you will ever talk to, listen and learn, or listen to fucking mooks who cut and paste off FBI public web sites and parrot whet they heard on a documentary on Crime TV...your choice.
Bottom line on this topic...there is no super human calabrese boogie man gangsters hiding in the clost...it is fantasy, myth and hype
Posted By: m2w

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 04:53 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
There is no central structure and no hierarchy.....It is a blanket name for autonomous gangs most of whom have no contact with one another.
It is a term more closely comparable to “gangster” than Casa Nostra


the ndrangheta bosses met every year in a calabrian mountain, santuario dei polsi
they have initiation ceremonies and are connected eachother
they even have a central structure now according to italian police, not horizontal anymore
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm

See, there goes you blood presure rising again, and your projection kicking in again


pointless troll baiting.


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Your ilk, is actually people who hear things second and third hand, and try to pass it off as irrefutable forst


I have no idea what "forst" is supposed to mean, but I have never once done this.

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Second hand. That never works with people, like myself, who actually know what they are talking about. It just makes you look silly.


You're right, your ad hominem straw men arguments that lack any and all credibility totally make me look silly.


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For the record, I am the type of guy who uses profanity when I am perfectly calm, if I am angey or upset, I become very articulate and a master wordsmith.


No, you're an uneducated ignoramus who uses words awkwardly and often incorrectly (projection complex, for example). Your syntax, spelling and grammar are generally atrocious and about on par with an autistic 12 year old. The only thing you're a master smith of is bullshit nobody believes but you.

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I told you before Corkey, I am the best connected guy someone like you will ever talk to, listen and learn, or listen to fucking mooks who cut and paste off FBI public web sites and parrot whet they heard on a documentary on Crime TV...your choice.


Connected how? You're a nobody. An internet tough guy who obsessively tries to prove he's connected to a bunch of people who don't give a shit who you think you are.

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Bottom line on this topic...there is no super human calabrese boogie man gangsters hiding in the clost...it is fantasy, myth and hype


I never made this claim... More strawman arguments. That all you got, pops?
Posted By: LaLouisiane

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:09 PM

I wrote Tommy Pitera a few times, am I connected yet?
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: slumpy
Originally Posted By: TheArm

See, there goes you blood presure rising again, and your projection kicking in again


pointless troll baiting.


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Your ilk, is actually people who hear things second and third hand, and try to pass it off as irrefutable forst


I have no idea what "forst" is supposed to mean, but I have never once done this.

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Second hand. That never works with people, like myself, who actually know what they are talking about. It just makes you look silly.


You're right, your ad hominem straw men arguments that lack any and all credibility totally make me look silly.


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For the record, I am the type of guy who uses profanity when I am perfectly calm, if I am angey or upset, I become very articulate and a master wordsmith.


No, you're an uneducated ignoramus who uses words awkwardly and often incorrectly (projection complex, for example). Your syntax, spelling and grammar are generally atrocious and about on par with an autistic 12 year old. The only thing you're a master smith of is bullshit nobody believes but you.

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I told you before Corkey, I am the best connected guy someone like you will ever talk to, listen and learn, or listen to fucking mooks who cut and paste off FBI public web sites and parrot whet they heard on a documentary on Crime TV...your choice.


Connected how? You're a nobody. An internet tough guy who obsessively tries to prove he's connected to a bunch of people who don't give a shit who you think you are.

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Bottom line on this topic...there is no super human calabrese boogie man gangsters hiding in the clost...it is fantasy, myth and hype


I never made this claim... More strawman arguments. That all you got, pops?



You really need to get some anxiety meds son...you are entering a full blown melt down, not good for your long term health
Like I said son, keep nut sucking the mooks who cut and paste from Real deal, FBI misinformation sites, and other such bullshit, and keep obsessing over my every word. For some reason it strikes a nerve, but thyat is between you and your case worker. By the way Corkey, thinking you speak form "everyone" is another mental disorder, you may want to bring that up at your next appointment as well.
Bottom line Sport.....you can parrot and nut hug all the wannabe mafia historians you like...I have been in and around it 40 years...and you know shit.....thats a fact,
Oh, almost forgot,,when you resort to spell checking, that proves you are a little bitch, desperate and that...you lost
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:18 PM

q: More strawman arguments. That all you got, pops?

And the answer is, yes, that is all you have. That's what I thought. Sit.

Edit: And I don't spell check, I'm just not a moron... But yes. Spell checking means I lost the "argument"... I can't even... And you're over 40 years old (supposedly)? This is the logic of a toddler.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:22 PM

Originally Posted By: slumpy
q: More strawman arguments. That all you got, pops?

And the answer is, yes, that is all you have. That's what I thought, son. Sit.


Obsessed (Clearly I have struck a nerve)...not to mention hijacking the thread...have your meds adjusted Corkey, you are not doing well at all

So....shall we let him have a good cry and get back on the topic of Ndrangheta?
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:26 PM

You do realize not one single person believes your bullshit stories, right? I mean...There's no way you are actually this deluded.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:32 PM

Originally Posted By: slumpy
You do realize not one single person believes your bullshit stories, right? I mean...There's no way you are actually this deluded.


There yopu go thinking you speak for "everyone" again....really, mention this to your mental health professional, they may want to adjust your meds
Actually Corkey, I have had two people send me PMs knowing who I am in R/L, and a lot of others guess and come close and oters thank me for my info.
tell ya what sport...here is an assignment for you, disprove or refute ANYTHING I have ever posted in these forums...anything at all.
This should be fun...I'll be waiting
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:37 PM

Uh you're the one who made the claims and thus the onus is on you to provide the evidence... Which you have never done, once. you expect people to take your word for it. That's not how life works, and its pretty sad I even have to explain this to a grown ass man (supposedly).

So until YOU provide evidence for YOUR claims most people will continue filing everything you say under "B", for bullshit. Because, without evidence, that's all it will ever be. A few gullible idiots may believe that, because you can drop a few names, that you're some kind of mafia insider... Which, if you were, I sincerely doubt you'd be on here talking about it instead of living it.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: slumpy
Uh you're the one who made the claims and thus the onus is on you to provide the evidence... Which you have never done, once. you expect people to take your word for it. That's not how life works, and its pretty sad I even have to explain this to a grown ass man (supposedly).

So until YOU provide evidence for YOUR claims most people will continue filing everything you say under "B", for bullshit. Because, without evidence, that's all it will ever be. A few gullible idiots may believe that, because you can drop a few names, that you're some kind of mafia insider... Which, if you were, I sincerely doubt you'd be on here talking about it instead of living it.

It's not on me to provide shit son....LOL
I already told you, I don't give your mothers fat ass what you believe or don't. Why would I care about the opinion of a mope with orange cheetos dust on his skid marked boxers posting from his Mom's basement like you.
The fact that you can't refute anything I have ever said IS my evidence.
Since you suffer from mental illness and are none to bright...I’ll say it again, refute or disprove anything I have ever posted. Names, dates, incidents bios, anything. If you can’t, and you can’t, it just goes to show what a complete punk ass bitch you are…come on Corkey….bust me….LOL
BTW..."Most people" is better, but still a form of delusional psychosis, you still have a ways to go
Posted By: SC

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:53 PM

Arm, you won't be warned again. Stop this bullshit and flaming.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 05:54 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Arm, you won't be warned again. Stop this bullshit and flaming.


I am totally willing to leave this conversation as it is...it is he whom continues...I already made my point...so will do
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:02 PM

I'm sorry you are incapable of understanding how a debate works and that, asking me to research "any" claim you've made in the past is pointless because I never called them into question, (what I did call into question was your credibility as a primary source - as in, you have none) I don't even read 90% of your asinine posts. This is a ridiculous diversion tactic because you are trying to make it about me, when it's all about you and the "first hand experience" you claim to have. Obviously you can't prove it, or you would have already - just to shut me up, instead of demanding that I somehow disprove who you are and who you know; Which, even if I could confirm with some degree of accuracy is not something I am at all interested in doing.

Further, What you are attempting to do is a logical fallacy known as "Argument from ignorance".

here, let me help you:

"In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.

The fallaciousness of arguments from ignorance does not mean that one can never possess good reasons for thinking that something does not exist, [sic] wherein a position must be demonstrated or proven in order to be upheld, and therefore the burden of proof is on the argument's proponent."
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:06 PM

Originally Posted By: slumpy
I'm sorry you are incapable of understanding how a debate works and that, asking me to research "any" claim you've made in the past is pointless because I never called them into question, (what I did call into question was your credibility as a primary source - as in, you have none) I don't even read 90% of your asinine posts. This is a ridiculous diversion tactic because you are trying to make it about me, when it's all about you and the "first hand experience" you claim to have. Obviously you can't prove it, or you would have already - just to shut me up, instead of demanding that I somehow disprove who you are and who you know; Which, even if I could confirm with some degree of accuracy is not something I am at all interested in doing.

Further, What you are attempting to do is a logical fallacy known as "Argument from ignorance".

here, let me help you:

"In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.

The fallaciousness of arguments from ignorance does not mean that one can never possess good reasons for thinking that something does not exist, [sic] wherein a position must be demonstrated or proven in order to be upheld, and therefore the burden of proof is on the argument's proponent."



.....................See my above post
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:07 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Arm, you won't be warned again. Stop this bullshit and flaming.


Could you please ask Slumpy to do what you asked me to do?
Thanks
Posted By: SC

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: TheArm
Could you please ask Slumpy to do what you asked me to do? Thanks


Slumpy, please stop egging him on. Ignore him; I think that is what most members are doing.
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: TheArm
Could you please ask Slumpy to do what you asked me to do? Thanks


Slumpy, please stop egging him on. Ignore him; I think that is what most members are doing.


Thanks I think...lol
Posted By: slumpy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:15 PM

Sure thing
Posted By: Dago_From_Chicago

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:25 PM

I have poopy draws on and have cool ranch dip on my chin and chest with a big bottle of piss next to the couch.
Posted By: SC

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/19/14 06:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Dago_From_Chicago
I have poopy draws on and have cool ranch dip on my chin and chest with a big bottle of piss next to the couch.


I think you can find other boards on which to post this nonsense.
Posted By: StLguy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/20/14 12:55 AM

"There is no central structure and no hierarchy.....It is a blanket name for autonomous gangs most of whom have no contact with one another."

"there is no super human calabrese boogie man gangsters hiding in the clost"

And there's also no mafia. Just a bunch of Italian business men. Read about the famous olive oil importer Joe Bonanno. Better yet, talk to his son. He's been spillin' the beans about you Arm. He said that you and Joe Bonanno wanted to cut down on competition from the jews so you had Hitler gas a bunch of them. The 'Ndrangheta tried to stop you but was too weak so all they could do was stay in Calabria and fuck Elisabetta Gregoraci. This should be the foundation of all new rackets: fucking Elisabetta Gregoraci. She's a fox.
Posted By: carmela

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/20/14 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: StLguy
This should be the foundation of all new rackets: fucking Elisabetta Gregoraci. She's a fox.


She's married to that faccia brutto Flavio Briatore. I have no idea how this guy gets all the hot women, honestly.
Posted By: StLguy

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/20/14 03:44 AM

"She's married to that faccia brutto Flavio Briatore. I have no idea how this guy gets all the hot women, honestly"

http://www.motifake.com/facebookview.php?id=51012

http://www.funny-city.com/photos/5401-why-you-should-study
Posted By: TheArm

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 02/20/14 06:20 AM

Originally Posted By: StLguy
"There is no central structure and no hierarchy.....It is a blanket name for autonomous gangs most of whom have no contact with one another."

"there is no super human calabrese boogie man gangsters hiding in the clost"

And there's also no mafia. Just a bunch of Italian business men. Read about the famous olive oil importer Joe Bonanno. Better yet, talk to his son. He's been spillin' the beans about you Arm. He said that you and Joe Bonanno wanted to cut down on competition from the jews so you had Hitler gas a bunch of them. The 'Ndrangheta tried to stop you but was too weak so all they could do was stay in Calabria and fuck Elisabetta Gregoraci. This should be the foundation of all new rackets: fucking Elisabetta Gregoraci. She's a fox.


LCN has a central structure, not as central as it once was, but it is still an organization.
Ndrangheta is just a term used to describe a bunch of gangs who are loosely connected, if connected at all
Posted By: DoctorTwink

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 07/07/14 07:57 PM

Originally Posted By: m2w
inform yourself the arm
ndrangheta is highly organized and with a central structure and it run several italian cities included milan, turin, genoa and rome and it has cells in several european countries canada australia the states


True they are even powerful in Italy, and lots of other European countries.
Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 07/09/14 11:24 AM

What made the Ndrangheta so powerful?

In three words: invisibility, blood ties and organization


The basic local organizational unit of the 'Ndrangheta is called a locale (local or place) with jurisdiction over an entire town or an area in a large urban center.A locale may have branches, called 'ndrina (plural: 'ndrine), in the districts of the same city, in neighbouring towns and villages, or even outside Calabria, in cities and towns in the industrial North of Italy in and around Turin and Milan. Sometimes sotto 'ndrine are established. These subunits enjoy a high degree of autonomy – they have a leader and independent staff. In some contexts the 'ndrine have become more powerful than the locale on which they formally depend.Other observers maintain that the 'ndrina is the basic organizational unit. Each 'ndrina is "autonomous on its territory and no formal authority stands above the " 'ndrina boss", according to the Antimafia Commission. The 'ndrina is usually in control of a small town or a neighborhood. If more than one 'ndrina operates in the same town, they form a locale.

Blood family and membership of the crime family overlap to a great extent within the 'Ndrangheta. By and large, the 'ndrine consist of men belonging to the same family lineage. Salvatore Boemi, Anti-mafia prosecutor in Reggio Calabria, told the Italian Antimafia Commission that "one becomes a member for the simple fact of being born in a mafia family", although other reasons might attract a young man to seek membership, and non-kin have also been admitted. Marriages help cement relations within each 'ndrina and to expand membership. As a result, a few blood families constitute each group, hence "a high number of people with the same last name often end up being prosecuted for membership of a given 'ndrina". Indeed, since there is no limit to the membership of a single unit, bosses try to maximize descendants.

At the bottom of the chain of command are the picciotti d’onore or soldiers, who are expected to perform tasks with blind obedience until they are promoted to the next level of cammorista, where they will be granted command over their own group of soldiers. The next level, separated by the 'Ndrina but part of 'Ndrangheta, is known as santista and higher still is the vangelista, upon which the up-and-coming gangster has to swear their dedication to a life of crime on the Bible. The Quintino, also called Padrino, is the second highest level of command in a 'Ndrangheta clan (name Ndrina), being made up of five privileged members of the crime family who report directly to the boss, the capobastone (head of command).

For many years, the power apparatus of the single families were the sole ruling bodies within the two associations, and they have remained the real centers of power even after superordinate bodies were created in the Cosa Nostra beginning in the 1950s (the Sicilian Mafia Commission) and in the 'Ndrangheta a superordinate body was created only in 1991 as the result of negotiations to end years of inter family violence.

Unlike the Sicilian Mafia, the 'Ndrangheta managed to maintain a horizontal organizational structure up to the early 1990s, avoiding the establishment of a formal superordinate body. Information of several witnesses has undermined the myth of absolute autonomy of Calabrian crime families, however. At least since the end of the 19th century, stable mechanisms for coordination and dispute settlement were created. Contacts and meetings among the bosses of the locali were frequent.

A new investigation, known as Operation Crimine, which ended in July 2010 with an arrest of 305 'Ndrangheta members revealed that the 'ndrangheta was extremely "hierarchical, united and pyramidal", and not just clan-based as previously believed, as said by Italy's chief anti-mafia prosecutor Piero Grasso.

At least since the 1950s, the chiefs of the 'Ndrangheta locali have met regularly near the Sanctuary of Our Lady of Polsi in the municipality of San Luca during the September Feast. These annual meetings, known as the crimine, have traditionally served as a forum to discuss future strategies and settle disputes among the locali. The assembly exercises weak supervisory powers over the activities of all 'Ndrangheta groups. Strong emphasis was placed on the temporary character of the position of the crimine boss. A new representative was elected at each meeting.[44] Far from being the "boss of the bosses", the capo crimine actually has comparatively little authority to interfere in family feuds or to control the level of interfamily violence.

At these meetings, every boss "must give account of all the activities carried out during the year and of all the most important facts taking place in his territory such as kidnappings, homicides, etc."[44] The historical preeminence of the San Luca family is such that every new group or locale must obtain its authorization to operate and every group belonging to the 'Ndrangheta "still has to deposit a small percentage of illicit proceeds to the principale of San Luca in recognition of the latter’s primordial supremacy."

Security concerns have led to the creation in the 'Ndrangheta of a secret society within the secret society: La Santa. Membership in the Santa is only known to other members. Contrary to the code, it allowed bosses to establish close connections with state representatives, even to the extent that some were affiliated with the Santa. These connections were often established through the Freemasonry, which the santisti - breaking another rule of the traditional code - were allowed to join.

Since the end of the Second 'Ndrangheta war in 1991, the 'Ndrangheta is ruled by a collegial body or Commission, known as La Provincia. Its primary function is the settlement of inter-family disputes.The body, also referred to as the Commission in reference to its Sicilian counterpart, is composed of three lower bodies, known as mandamenti. One for the clans on the Ionic side (the Aspromonte mountains and Locride) of Calabria, a second for the Tyrrhenian side (the plains of Gioia Tauro) and one central mandamento for the city of Reggio Calabria.

Posted By: furio_from_naples

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 07/09/14 11:48 AM

the Ndrangheta thanks to immigrants from Calabria, spread all over the world especially in Canada and Australia.Robert Trimbole (1931-1987) was a infamous drug baron that during the Vitnam War when many american soldier go to Austraulia where large spaces couldn't be controlled entirely by the police, sell large amounts of marijuana before moving to heroin.
Trimbole is a central character in the drama series Underbelly: A Tale of Two Cities.

as regards Italy, in Fratelli di Sangue (Blood Brothers) of Nicola Grattieri is explained as the Ndrangheta became until 1990,kidnapping industry, famous was that of John Paul Getty III in 1973, with the ransom money financed drug trafficking , before moving in 1990 to completely drug trafficking (famous is the legend, which is perhaps true that with the money were built entire neighborhoods in small towns in Calabria, which people call as the name of the kidnapped).

What made the Ndrangheta, so powerful was the fact of being considered both the Italian state by both other organizations, a bands of violent shepherds,fierce but disorganized.
So after that in 1992, Cosa Nostra had declared war on the state is ended almost to disappear, their place in the international drug market was taken from the Ndrangheta (famous is the case where a mobster was about to be killed by the Clobian because can't pay a drug load and a ndrina men onlyon his word that he will pay at the place of theman, let the Colombian to free the man).

Also in ndrine who is the son of members, in turn, becomes a member, he has no choice if he wanted to flip,he would be disowned by his family, and would betray the whole family, and this is an extraordinary incentive.

The pentiti in the Ndrangheta, can be count on your fingers.
Posted By: stevietro

Re: Rise of the Ndrangheta - 07/11/14 10:34 AM

The close-knit structure, i.e blood family relations within the crime family, and the general remoteness of Calabria was the perfect breeding ground for the 'Ndrangheta to develop.
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