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Why was Tony Caponigro set up?

Posted By: Longislandguy14

Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 02:45 PM

We've all heard the story of what happened when tony Caponigro killed Angelo Bruno. Why would funzi tieri set up Caponigro like that? I know tieri wanted atlantic city but why do it in that fashion? Then tieri denies giving permission for the hit on Bruno, I imagine it wasn't a pleasant end for Tony Bananas. The Philly mob never recovered from the aftershocks. It just seemed like a pretty hardcore scenario for the genovese family to be associated with.
Posted By: southend

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 03:32 PM

He broke the rules
Posted By: Dellacroce

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:19 PM

The geneveses just used capinegro as a pawn and when they were done with him they feed him to the wolves.
Posted By: bobbytran

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:29 PM

Damn siggies.
Posted By: azguy

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: southend
He broke the rules


??? I thought he went and asked for their permission and then after the fact the Genovese denied giving an ok....
Posted By: bobbytran

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: azguy
Originally Posted By: southend
He broke the rules


??? I thought he went and asked for their permission and then after the fact the Genovese denied giving an ok....


So you're calling them liars....look at what happened to the last guy who called them a liar.
Posted By: Longislandguy14

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:40 PM

Lol
Posted By: azguy

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: bobbytran
Originally Posted By: azguy
Originally Posted By: southend
He broke the rules


??? I thought he went and asked for their permission and then after the fact the Genovese denied giving an ok....


So you're calling them liars....look at what happened to the last guy who called them a liar.


No, I'm just asking for clarification. I thought he was double-crossed..?
Posted By: bobbytran

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:58 PM

Yeah he was they used him to take Bruno out, and like stated above they disposed of him once they had no more use of him.
Posted By: Longislandguy14

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 04:58 PM

In reality though, tieri's plan probably brought an assload of heat, not just to Philly either.
Posted By: bobbytran

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:00 PM

If I were Capognigro I would of went into that meeting armed with a couple gernades with deadman switches.
Posted By: Longislandguy14

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:05 PM

I heard that tieri had a personal beef with Bruno or something. They were both associated through Carlo gambino. When Carlo died it was open season on Bruno I suppose.
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:05 PM

The Gambino's later did something similar when they used Jonny Keys.
They sent Sammy Gravano to befriend him and "promise" him that Paul Castellano was gonna back him.
Sammy then turned on him and whacked him as per Big Pauls instructions
Posted By: LittleMan

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:12 PM

Yes, he was double crossed. Considering the greed and lust for money associated with the mob, the events were hardly surprising.

Reminds me of when Tony Soprano whacked Phil without approval from the commission. It's only fiction, but the NY capos that gave him the go ahead probably denied it....leading to the diner scene.
Posted By: SilentPartnerz

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:12 PM

Tony Caponigro controlled a huge bookmaking and numbers operation in northern New Jersey. Jersey City and Newark. That area is also full of Genovese guys. The Genovese guys wanted those money making rackets for themselves. When Bruno was alive, a sit down was held, where Carlo Gambino used his influence with the Comission to get a favorable ruling for Caponigro, against Funzi Tieri. Meaning, Caponigro got to keep his rackets. When Carlo Gambino died, Bruno (Caponigro) lost their protector. This is when the Genovese made their play to take over the northern NJ rackets. They had Bruno and Tony Cap killed. They also were able to work with Scarfo to get access to Atlantic City rackets.
Posted By: Longislandguy14

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:14 PM

@garyh that's fucked up. Shit like that made has set lcn on the path of decline.
Posted By: Longislandguy14

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:17 PM

Wow I didn't know that. Thanks
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 05:44 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryH
The Gambino's later did something similar when they used Jonny Keys.
They sent Sammy Gravano to befriend him and "promise" him that Paul Castellano was gonna back him.
Sammy then turned on him and whacked him as per Big Pauls instructions


Good point Gary. Castellano was very trigger happy when he had to be despite being a white collar boss
Posted By: ninogaggi

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 07:02 PM

silent is right on funzi wanted that book. frank tieri def knew how to play the game...cunning individual
Posted By: TonyG

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 09:12 PM

Originally Posted By: SilentPartnerz
Tony Caponigro controlled a huge bookmaking and numbers operation in northern New Jersey. Jersey City and Newark. That area is also full of Genovese guys. The Genovese guys wanted those money making rackets for themselves. When Bruno was alive, a sit down was held, where Carlo Gambino used his influence with the Comission to get a favorable ruling for Caponigro, against Funzi Tieri. Meaning, Caponigro got to keep his rackets. When Carlo Gambino died, Bruno (Caponigro) lost their protector. This is when the Genovese made their play to take over the northern NJ rackets. They had Bruno and Tony Cap killed. They also were able to work with Scarfo to get access to Atlantic City rackets.


Why was Caponigro set up? Because they could, for the reasons outlined by SilentPartnerz above, and because Caponigro was an ignorant greedy bastard. The Genovese's played him like a cheap harmonica.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: SilentPartnerz
Tony Caponigro controlled a huge bookmaking and numbers operation in northern New Jersey. Jersey City and Newark. That area is also full of Genovese guys. The Genovese guys wanted those money making rackets for themselves. When Bruno was alive, a sit down was held, where Carlo Gambino used his influence with the Comission to get a favorable ruling for Caponigro, against Funzi Tieri. Meaning, Caponigro got to keep his rackets. When Carlo Gambino died, Bruno (Caponigro) lost their protector. This is when the Genovese made their play to take over the northern NJ rackets. They had Bruno and Tony Cap killed. They also were able to work with Scarfo to get access to Atlantic City rackets.


This ^
Posted By: Lou_Para

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/13/13 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: azguy
Originally Posted By: southend
He broke the rules


??? I thought he went and asked for their permission and then after the fact the Genovese denied giving an ok....
He actually went to Tieri for permission,not the Commission.
Tieri told him that the Commission was in favor of the hit and that he would be the new Boss. When Bananas went to New York to actually meet with the Commission,Funzi sold him out and told the other Commission members that he never gave the OK for the hit.
Caponigro was a fool to take Tieri's word as opposed to hearing it from the full Commission.
Posted By: tommykarate

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/14/13 04:39 AM

He was probably under the impression Tieri was fam.boss.any good info out on johnny keys Simone. Gravano said he hated killing him that he was cosa nostra all the way.think he would have bn a good boss had he knocked off scarfo or some1
Posted By: Serpiente

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 08/14/13 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: SilentPartnerz
Tony Caponigro controlled a huge bookmaking and numbers operation in northern New Jersey. Jersey City and Newark. That area is also full of Genovese guys. The Genovese guys wanted those money making rackets for themselves. When Bruno was alive, a sit down was held, where Carlo Gambino used his influence with the Comission to get a favorable ruling for Caponigro, against Funzi Tieri. Meaning, Caponigro got to keep his rackets. When Carlo Gambino died, Bruno (Caponigro) lost their protector. This is when the Genovese made their play to take over the northern NJ rackets. They had Bruno and Tony Cap killed. They also were able to work with Scarfo to get access to Atlantic City rackets.
Right on the money..first guy to get it right
Posted By: frankg2469

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 11/30/13 09:13 AM

After double-crossing Caponigro,the Genovese Family reaped the major benefits mentioned above----the very lucrative North Jersey book and a piece of AC.A lot of sources say Bruno wasn't gonna share AC with anybody,but it's more likely that he was only gonna share it with the Gambino Family,as he was very close with Carlo Gambino and many of his relatives,including Paul.A couple of investigators have written books with details about numerous side partnerships(including drugs)Bruno had over a period of many years exclusively with Carlo's blood relatives.
Posted By: domwoods74

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 11/30/13 09:18 AM

A lot of it had to do with the genivese family controlling the Philly mob so they could get there vote on the commission the north jersey book went to blackie di Napoli a Philly guy who the genovese family controlled , he had been one of the yardville 7 along with genovese consigliere bobby manna
Posted By: Extortion

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 11/30/13 09:42 AM

Three words: funz of tieri

Find it weird commision maybe didnt find it suspicous caponigros mentioned of tieri, like he pulled that name out of a hat.
Posted By: azguy

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 11/30/13 03:01 PM

I read somewhere that in the late 70's and early 80's Philly was on the commission and would always vote with the Gambino's. Paul and Bruno were seen many times having dinner together and they had a very strong working relationships. There's no doubt that the West Side wanted to end that by having Bruno whacked.
Posted By: Iceman999

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 12/01/13 01:03 AM

Sorry if this is a little OT, but how come Stanfa got a pass for the Bruno hit? His connections were to the Gambino Familiy, weren't they? Is that what saved him?
Posted By: frankg2469

Re: Why was Tony Caponigro set up? - 12/01/13 03:08 AM

Word had it that both the Gambinos and important people in Sicily spoke up for Stanfa and assured that he was spared.Long John Martorano too----he was Bruno's regular driver and had driven him to Cous' that night,but begged off driving him home.Long John also told Mario Riccobene when he was trying to get him to set up his brother Harry that "Angie" was one of the 5 whackings he had participated in up to that point.It's long been suspected that Long John was the one who made the call to say that Bruno was on his way home.
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