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Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti

Posted By: PP

Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/18/13 11:43 PM

Anyone have any info on him and why he was taken out?

Seems like the FBI has someone that has said Anthony Calabrese was the shooter, but he hasn't been indicted.

Was he a soldier in the Cicero crew? Who could have ordered it? Marcello?

http://blogs.suntimes.com/mob/2008/01/the_feds_on_the_hatchs_demise.html
Posted By: Chicago

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/18/13 11:52 PM

The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.

He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice.
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/18/13 11:59 PM

The transcript of the guy wearing a wire on Calabrese is pretty interesting if you can find it. Him and another guy (probably Robert Cooper but I don't think he's indentified in the transcript) beat the crap out of the guy wearing the wire.

Calabrese is already doing life or essentially life for something else. Cooper was convicted of the murder but it received very little media attention for some reason.

I think I remember reading that the feds are probably just waiting to play some card before/if they go after Calabrese for it.
Posted By: mulberry

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Chicago
The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.

He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice.


If Chiaramonti and Zizzo were killed by Sarno, why didn't Marcello have Sarno killed?
Posted By: Chicago

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 12:11 AM

This is just my opinion about all of it, But it all ties in with Zizzo then disappearing. It appears that Sarno was trying to take control of things. There was also talk about the Hatch feuding with Caruso from 26th St. That could also be part of it.
Marcello lost a lot of ground because he was in jail in 2001 and had been there for a long time. There wasn't much he could do about certain things.
You can say what you want about a guy still having power from jail, but when you get right down to it, Jail is Jail.
Posted By: FriedRavioliFarts

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 12:41 AM


Wasn't part of it because Captain D's relative wanted to open a Connie's in Lyons?
Posted By: 12thStreet

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 01:09 AM

I think Marcello gave the orders on both Zizzo and Hatch. Hatch was running around pissing everybody off from Elmwood Park to Cicero to 26th Street. Had Sarno killed those guys without a green light from Marcello or Jimmy I, he would have been killed too
Posted By: PP

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 01:14 AM

Pretty interesting if Sarno was able to take out both Hatch and Zizzo.

I'm guessing he would have had to have gotten the green light from his superiors. But why take both of them out? Who benefited besides Sarno?

Leads me to believe somebody close got to Zizzo and made him disappear.

Thanks for the replies.
Posted By: 12thStreet

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 01:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Chicago
The Hatch was a made guy in the Cicero Crew. He ran a franchise in partnership with Tonny Zizzo before he went away in the 1990's. They had soldier/associates working under them.

He got killed because there was not strong leadership at the Top of the Cicero Crew in 2001. Marcello was still in jail and had been gone for a long time. Sarno was beginning his internal feud against Chiaramonti & Zizzo. Marcello was not there for leadership and protection. Zizzo and Chiaramonti belonged to Marcello. Sarno belonged to The other Capo faction within Cicero which was headed by Ferriola and then Infelice.
The more I think about it, Chicago, you're right. Sarno was probably acting on behalf of Inendino -- not Marcello. It was Inendino solidifying things through Sarno with Marcello unable to do anything about it as he was incarcerated
Posted By: 12thStreet

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 01:19 AM

It was kind of Cicero vs. Melrose Park when you think about it eh, Chicago??
Posted By: Chicago

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 02:04 AM

It was definitely an internal thing within Cicero. Somebody then got 26th St to also support them and then the moves were made against those people.
Zizzo and the Hatch were close. Zizzo was the Gambling type of guy and The Hatch was the Loan Sharking type of guy, a very typical partnership among made guys running a franchise. They both belonged to Carlisi, Marcello.
Within the Crew of the Top Boss, there are men who are direct with him and then there is a Capo who also has the other made men in the crew.

Example #1: Taylor St., Giancana & 2 Capos, Battaglia & Bucciere. There was no underboss of the Outfit. Giancana refused Cerone ( The Cheapskate)

Example #2: Cicero, Auippa & Capo Ferriola

Example #3: Elmwood Park, Cerone & Capo DiFronzo

With Carlisi dying and Marcello being gone for so long, I believe tension erupted within Cicero between Sarno, Chiaramonti ( Who also pissed off Caruso 26th St with his mouth) and Zizzo.

If You'll notice ONCE AGAIN, Elmwood Park sat back and did nothing.
Posted By: PP

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 02:30 AM

When all this went down, Zizzo, Hatch and Sarno were all equals, correct? Made men?
Posted By: Chicago

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 02:56 AM

Yes, all made men. However, by 2006, Sarno was more of an 'Acting Boss'. Zizzo was not protected because he was at odds with Sarno and the real Boss of Zizzo, Marcello, was gone.

Elmwood Park could have done something in 2001 and 2006, but they refused to be involved in the street rackets
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 05:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Chicago
It was definitely an internal thing within Cicero. Somebody then got 26th St to also support them and then the moves were made against those people.
Zizzo and the Hatch were close. Zizzo was the Gambling type of guy and The Hatch was the Loan Sharking type of guy, a very typical partnership among made guys running a franchise. They both belonged to Carlisi, Marcello.
Within the Crew of the Top Boss, there are men who are direct with him and then there is a Capo who also has the other made men in the crew.

Example #1: Taylor St., Giancana & 2 Capos, Battaglia & Bucciere. There was no underboss of the Outfit. Giancana refused Cerone ( The Cheapskate)

Example #2: Cicero, Auippa & Capo Ferriola

Example #3: Elmwood Park, Cerone & Capo DiFronzo

With Carlisi dying and Marcello being gone for so long, I believe tension erupted within Cicero between Sarno, Chiaramonti ( Who also pissed off Caruso 26th St with his mouth) and Zizzo.

If You'll notice ONCE AGAIN, Elmwood Park sat back and did nothing.



if ricca was consigliere/senior advisor and he had the real power than he was #1

so in essence giancana was underboss

with accardo basically being ricca's shield
Posted By: Richards_bar

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 05:38 AM

I believe Hatch had ripped off Michael Magnafichi and one other individual in a joint trucking company, causing hundred of thousands of dollars of losses for the other two. Also he was seen having a argument with Pete DiFronzo where the Hatch shoved Pete, not long before he was knocked down.
Posted By: Chicago

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 06:04 AM

Hatch didn't get knock down because of Mike Magnafichi who's not even a made guy. The Hatch never shoved Pete DiFronzo. Pete DiFronzo had nothing to do with anything concerning the Hatch. He got knocked down for the reasons stated above which was an internal Cicero thing. If you don't believe it and think the Hatch got knocked down for allegedly shoving Pete DiFronzo, so be it.
Posted By: ChiTown

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 02:20 PM

It was Mickey Marcello that Hatch shoved before he got knocked down. Mickey was there trying to talk sense into him alongside The German, who hooked up with the Marcello brothers after he got out of prison.

Hatch was indeed in a trucking company with Magnafichi and I believe Jackie Cerone Jr.
Posted By: Faithful1

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 06:02 PM

Chicago, I sent you a pm.
Posted By: mulberry

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 07/19/13 09:35 PM

We may find out what really happened in 20 years when there's another family secrets trial
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 07:48 AM

When, in people's opinion, was Jimmy Inendino made?

Also, when was Lou Marino made? Their ceremonies had to be around the same time period (mid to late 70s?).

What was the total duration of Inendino's time served over the past 40 years? The guy has done an obscene amount of time standing on his head. It's only natural that he & Solly D would be bosses. They were already feared & respected prior to their multiple extended visits to the big house. Especially Jimmy I.

I know of at least one individual (Who Was 25/30 years older than Jimmy) that kicked up to him during the mid to late 70s in the southwest burbs. So he had to be made or at the very least greatly privileged in order to be commanding a crew of guys, several of which were fairly prolific bookmakers & sharks.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 08:34 AM

I assume that he was made at some point in the mid to late seventies, although it's possible that he wasn't made until he got through with his first prison stint, which was around the mid-nineties, I believe. He served almost twenty years for his first bust and then six or seven more for the bribery.

Marino was probably made in the seventies.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 08:41 AM

Although you never really know, especially when guys like Tocco had to wait until 1983 to get made.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 11:03 AM

What did Inendino go away for? Racketeering and extortion?


In regards to the prior conversation from last year, did it occur to Chicago that maybe EP didn't step in because they were ok with Zizzo and Hatch going down?
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 11:41 AM

Gambling, loan-sharking, hijacking, and check stealing for his first sentence and bribery, tax evasion, money laundering, and theft for his second.

I think that Elmwood Park viewed the Cicero thing as more of an internal struggle. Even at that time, DiFronzo was not going to let himself get involved with a possible murder trial.
Posted By: cookcounty

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 12:30 PM

elmwood park and cicero let the heights massacre each other in the 70s/80s

so elmwood park they probably really don't want to deal with cicero's fighting post 2k
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 12:51 PM

The bosses always gave a lot of leeway when it came to capos running their own territory.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Snakes
The bosses always gave a lot of leeway when it came to capos running their own territory.

Exactly my thinking. If either had affected EP's interests, I'm sure something would have been done about it to exert some influence in the decision. I know people think Sarno was a big shot at the time, but wasn't he already reporting to Jimmy I?

Snakes, any idea if that clip of Jimmy I threatening the guy who owed him money on the infamous wiretap was used in his conviction?
Posted By: SgWaue86

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 01:50 PM

Yes I believe it was used to convict him, and also to have his bail denied.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 02:00 PM

Yeah, I believe Inendino was in jail at the time of both Hatch and Zizzo's killings. He was still on probation from his first bust when he was hit with the second group of charges so he probably would have been denied bail anyway.

What people who doubt Sarno being in charge of Cicero at the time don't realize is that everybody else of consequence in that crew was in jail. Marcello, Inendino, Solly D, Louis Marino, etc. There was literally nobody else left to run it.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 06:44 PM

Good point. You also had Bellavia locked up.

I know it's been debated ad nauseam, but I wonder if Jimmy I and Solly running things, with their street pedigree, if they aren't "setting things right on the street" a la Marcello talking about doing so prior to his FS conviction.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 07:33 PM

some great insight per usual, gentlemen.

Fosco & I both agree that the LaPietras were the ones that made Jimmy I, but on the other hand, if that indeed is the case, then it would've had taken place in the early 90s, as I'm pretty sure Jimmy, up until the time he got out of the joint the first time in the early 90s, was 100% a Ferriola crew member.

Here's the thing that we need to always keep in mind about the Cicero crew: it was made up of two factions. Carlisi/Marcello & Ferriola/Infelice. Throughout the 80s & up until the mid to late 90s, the Carlisi crew was always dominant over Ferriola's, as Carlisi was Aiuppa's personal underboss. After Black Sam died & Jimmy Marcello went away, you saw the Ferriola crew slowly start to take over via Mike Sarno & his guys, so basically all the guys that were second/third tier in the Ferriola faction during the 80s.

Sarno, who was a Ferriola crew member under Bobby Salerno, married into the Inendino family which catapulted him to the front of the line in the Ferriola crew. In all honesty, Hatch Chiaramonti (Carlisi crew member) probably did deserve to take over Chinatown, or whatever big promotion he was klooking for, but he just didn't have any of his old boys on the street to have his back & support him, and Sarno & his guys (Ferriola) didn't trust him. Same exact situation with Zizzo. So essentially, Ferriola's guys ended up winning out over Carlisi's in the battle for the Cicero crew.

That's exactly why everyone assumes Jimmy I & Solly D are the big bosses now. They were/are both Ferriola/Infelice guys.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 07:33 PM

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Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 07:39 PM

HSC, Jimmy I was part of the Wild Bunch so I'd say he was 100 percent Joe Nicks....agree?
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 07:52 PM

Yeah that's what I'm saying. So if he got made in the mid/late 70s, it would've had to have been via Ferriola, who was with Cicero by then. But most people say that he didn't get made until the early 90s, when he went with Chinatown because all the Ferriola/Infelice guys were locked up.

However, like I said, I have reason to believe he was made & had a crew operating under him by the late 1976.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 07:55 PM

I have heard that he originally came up on the South Side so him being made by the LaPietras makes sense. I have also heard that he and Toots Caruso run the South Side now with Solly D running Cicero.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 08:02 PM

Well he was born & grew up on Taylor street but relocated to the south side & has operated out of there for the most part ever since.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/02/14 08:03 PM

Well he was born & grew up on Taylor street but relocated to the south side & has operated out of there for the most part ever since.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 01:26 PM

Probably old news to most, but here is Fosco's take on the hit.

http://americannewspost.com/joseph-fosco/2414/difronzo-authorized-hit-on-the-hatch/
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 01:38 PM

I have read that but take it with a grain of salt since Fosco hates DiFronzo.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 03:26 PM

Seems like the theories posited in this thread make more sense, rather than Rudy Fratto clipping a pretty heavy hitter over a few K. Though I still believe Bananas at least gave his placid approval.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 04:24 PM

Pretty heavy hitter is an understatement, Big Tony was a monster on the streets & one of the most ruthless enforcers that the Outfit ever saw.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 05:00 PM

So that having been said, do you really think Elmwood Park didn't at least give its tacit approval?
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 06:06 PM

I really don't think they gave a shit either way. I think everyone was happy to have Tony off the streets, the guy was a complete lunatic & had absolutely no respect for the young guys like Toots & Sarno, etc
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 08:47 PM

Agreed. This thread is the first that I've heard that Jimmy I might be on the Southside as opposed to Melrose/Cicero. Are most of you in agreement with this? HSC, any thoughts to my earlier question regarding whether or not Jimmy I and Solly are "setting things right on the streets"?

Also, anyone have this full article regarding Solly's making ceremony? This is only a partial bit of it. Was Solly made at the supposed Como ceremony in 89?


http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4090443.html
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/03/14 09:11 PM

Another question for you gentleman after re-perusing the discussion thread on ANP...Angelo claims Joey O directly proposed Marco's button. I find that hard to believe. I would think that at the time Joey was still on the street, Marco would have been a pimple on his ass. But I could be wrong.

Second question, Joey was out for a full year before he died. How involved was he? Too sick to run shit?
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/04/14 02:59 AM

Way too sick to run anything. He could barely walk proper.

If anyone proposed Marcos making it was O'Brien. Louie Eboli & Marco D'amico were indeed like sons to Aiuppa. Marco became close to him when he moved to Cicero & Aiuppa had known Mooch since he was a young'n in Melrose park. Neighborhood kid/old man mentor type situation.
Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/04/14 06:50 AM

Copy & paste the entire sun times article, it's only giving non subscribers part of it
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/04/14 11:17 AM

Aiuppa needed a walker during his trial so you could only imagine how he was after ten years in the can.

On the topic of Solly D, I recall a funny story I heard somewhere (maybe another board) about Solly D, Aleman, and some other guys in prison and how Aleman got in trouble because he somehow finagled his way into getting a cell all to himself. The same story also talked about Solly D laying in the sun in the prison yard with a piece of cardboard and some tin foil trying to keep his tan up lol. I'll have to see if I can find it, again.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/04/14 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: HuronSocialAthletic
Copy & paste the entire sun times article, it's only giving non subscribers part of it

I don't have it..that's why I posted the link was hoping someone on here did and could post it.


Snakes, if you could find the link that would be great. Sounds like an interesting article. Where was he, Milan?
Posted By: jonnynonos

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/04/14 02:55 PM

Anthony Calabrese and Robert G. Cooper murdered the Hatch. This used to link to the entire transcript which was pretty interesting reading.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=5956633

I forget who hired them. At one point I had come across something that strongly suggested it was someone well known but as I am getting older I have a harder time keeping this stuff straight.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/04/14 03:43 PM

It's been pretty well established that Tough Tony did it...question is who ordered him to?
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/08/14 01:30 PM

Are guys like Frank Bonavolante, Richie Gervasio, Vince Falzone, and Joe Cumbo (who were all part of the big Cicero/Carlisi indictment of the early 90s) still around?
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/08/14 01:57 PM

Bonavolante died in prison. Not sure about the other two.
Posted By: funkster

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/08/14 07:02 PM

He had a brother involved too, no?
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/08/14 07:33 PM

Yeah, he's out but there's nothing on him since then so he may very well be a civilian now.
Posted By: Snakes

Re: Anthony "The Hatch" Chiaramonti - 05/08/14 07:43 PM

BTW, back to an older conversation, Fosco said that Inendino got made in the early nineties when he got out of prison.
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