Wiretaps From The Old Days

1.The following surreptitiously recorded conversation between Sam Giancana and Johnny Roselli speaks for itself:

Roselli: ... He [Frank Sinatra] was real nice to me... He says: "Johnny, I took Sam's name, and wrote it down, and told Bobby Kennedy, 'This is my buddy, this is what I want you to know Bob'. "Between you and I, Frank saw Joe Kennedy three different times-Joe Kennedy, the father. He called him three times... He [Frank] says he's got an idea that you're mad at him. I says: "That, I wouldn't know".

Giancana: He must have a guilty conscience. I never said nothing... Well, I don't know who the fuck he's [Frank's] talking to, but if I'm gonna talk to... after all, if I'm taking somebody's money, I'm gonna make sure that this money is gonna do something, like, do you want it or don't you want it. If the money is accepted, maybe one of these days the guy will do you a favour.

Roselli: That's right, He [Frank] says he wrote your name down...

Giancana: Well, one minute he [Frank] tells me this and then he tells me that and then the last time I talked to him was at the hotel in Florida a month before he left, and he said, "Don't worry about it. If I can't talk to the old man [Joseph Kennedy], I'm gonna talk to the man [President Kennedy." One minute he says he's talked to Robert, and the next minute he says he hasn't talked to him. So, he never did talk to him. It's a lot of shit. Why lie to me? I haven't got that coming.

Roselli: I can imagine... Tsk, tsk, ...... if he can't deliver, I want him to tell me: "John, the load's too heavy.

Giancana: That's all right. At least then you know how to work. You won't let your guard down then, know what I mean... Ask him [Frank] if I'm going to be invited to his New Year's party.



2.Giancana, Roselli criticizes CIA bugging devices and indicates a preference for the more compact, FBI version:

Giancana: You can't take a big mike like that and put it in a flat.

Roselli: Sure, if you can take it apart.

Giancana: If you take it apart, you might not get the volume as clear as...

Roselli: Well, you play with it, you get an electronics guy... One thing, let me tell you what it is. The CIA has it...

Giancana: Like a cigarette.

Roselli: The FBI out there... has got a portable, it takes conversations way out... I told them, for Christ's sakes report on that thing.. ...... .1 got another kind you.. A guy in LA who's got an electronic cap kind of thing, and he showed me that... so I got to find out what the smallest thing is. If you put it in there, you got a receiver? And receive it when you are set up?

Giancana: Maybe a block, two blocks, three blocks...

Roselli: How big was your receiver?

Giancana: Like a... the box was only this big, maybe three inches by three inches. We were talking "blah, blah, blah." It picked it up. Think about it.

Roselli: Yeah. I'll work on it. Bobby is in Washington .


3.Buffalino/Hoffa Wiretaps

There is a quote from a conversation involving Sheeran, Hoffa, and mob bosses Russell Bufalino and Angelo Bruno in which Hoffa was warned not to try to retake the presidency of the Teamsters.
Bufalino, to Hoffa: "There are people higher up than me that feel you are demonstrating a failure to show appreciation... for Dallas."
After the sitdown, Bufalino told Sheeran, who was a staunch Hoffa supporter: "You're dreaming, my friend. If they could take out the president, they could take out the president of the Teamsters."
Later, Hoffa talked to Sheeran about the warning and about what was said.
"Dallas -- did you hear that word tonight? Remember that package you took to Baltimore? I didn't know it then, but it was high-powered rifles for the Kennedy hit in Dallas... That pilot [David Ferrie, whose name appeared in the assassination investigation] for Carlos was involved in delivering the replacements you brought down....
"Jack Ruby's cops were supposed to take care of Oswald, but Ruby bungled it. That's why he had to go in and finish the job on Oswald. If he didn't take care of Oswald, what do you think they would have done to him -- put Ruby on a meat hook. Don't kid yourself. Santo and Carlos and Giancana and some of their element, they were all in on Kennedy."


4.And Henry Hill speaking in codes...

FBI transcription of a phone tap of Henry Hill's line:

MAZZEI: You know the golf club and the dogs you gave me in return?

HILL: Yeah.

MAZZEI: Can you still do that?

HILL: Same kind of golf club?

MAZZEI: No. No golf clubs. Can you still give me the dogs if
I pay for the golf clubs?

HILL: Yeah. Sure.

(portion of conversation omitted)

MAZZEI: You front me the shampoo and I'll front you the dog pills...
What time tomorrow?

HILL: Anytime after twelve.

MAZZEI: You won't hold my lady friend up?

HILL: No.

MAZZEI: Somebody will just exchange dogs.

Good stuff thanks !

I assume Santo is Trafficante, right ?

Yup,thats him alright

Those are outstanding... seriously... especially Giancana stuff... great find!

Thanx Jimmy...i especially like the one with Momo and Roseli talkin about CIA & FBI wiretaps...like whats better,PS or xBox?

No way the Sheeran stuff was on wiretap. Or else, what would we be debating on as far as the JFK assassination goes? Has to be Sheeran's faulty memory

Still, good stuff. Sometimes I get frustrated reading the Chicago stuff because they take so many words to get a point across that my head starts to hurt.

Heres some more Chi Outfit wiretaps,federal prosecutors played a series of secret recorded conversations between Frank "The German" Schweihs and adult book store owner William 'Red' Wemette from the late 1980...

1. On the fate of a street tax collector Schweihs didn't like: "I think he's gonna open up a hotdog stand in Alaska."

2. Schweihs reassures Wemette that he's safe from harm as long as Schweihs protects him: "No, you don't have to be afraid, you got my word on that. There ain't no one gonna fucking touch you unless they knock me down first, and I'm not an easy guy to knock down, Red. You're with us, you're with me and there ain't no one gonna fuck with you - case closed! You got my fucking solemn promise on that."

3. Schweihs tells Wemette he won't be around for a while: "I - I won't see you for a while. I gotta - I got a fucking hit. I gotta go somewhere - something come up. So I don't know when I'll see yas."

4. Schweihs on the likelikhood that a rival gangster Mike Glitta sent someone to shake Wemette down, after Schweihs had already claimed the business: "Now, if Mike sent this cocksucker, sent this cocksucker here to bother you, Mike's in some fucking serious trouble, Red! Cause he has no excuse, he knows better. He knows this fucking joint is spoke for. And I don't think he would be that stupid to try and step on my fucking pecker or the people I'm affiliated with. Do you understand?"

5. On the need to make a competitor of Wemette's see the need not to mess with him: "He was told not to, but I don't know if he's goofy, or if we have to make a believer out of him."

source: http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/tv/chicagos_mob_wives.php

And a long ass convo between Nick Civella & Oscar Goodman....

GOODMAN: This is Oscar Goodman.

TAMBURELLO: Oh, yes. Please hold on a minute, Oscar.

CIVELLA: Hello.

GOODMAN: Hi, how are you?

CIVELLA: How are you, fella?

GOODMAN: Very good. How you doing?

CIVELLA: You know who this is?

GOODMAN: Certainly. How are you doing?

CIVELLA: I'm good and, ah, I'll tell you what. Ah, first, how's the missus and Grot (phonetic) and the rest of the children?

GOODMAN: They're all doing fine, thank you.

CIVELLA: I'll tell you what. I just, a few minutes ago, was given some information that you've been pretty tied up with a friend of yours who's having a tremendous misfortune, who's had a tremendous misfortune.

GOODMAN: That's correct.

CIVELLA: And if I'd knew that, I wouldn't have even disturbed you. I'll tell you the truth, I wouldn't, you know. I didn't know it until (overlapping conversation; unintelligible)

CIVELLA: Well, anyway, what I was going to ask you to do I done otherwise, because when I found this out, I didn't want to disturb you, so I done it otherwise. What, while I got you, I might -- are you in your office?

GOODMAN: I am.

CIVELLA: You are, huh? Anyway, I was reading some of your local papers there and there's some things that are turning out pretty fair, huh?

GOODMAN: Some are very good.

CIVELLA: Yeah.

GOODMAN: Some are very good.

CIVELLA: Are.

GOODMAN: Others are going to be a little tougher, but some are very good.

CIVELLA: Are you rushing or do you always talk fast?

GOODMAN: I always talk fast when I, when I talk to people I know, I talk fast.

CIVELLA: You're, you're not rushing then?

GOODMAN: No, not at all, not at all.

CIVELLA: Ah, let me, ah, maybe, ah, I don't know how, how to put this. Ah, ah, one of your clients, you know, ah, you and I have touched on once before about it.

GOODMAN: Right.

CIVELLA: Ah, do you have a definite opinion yet about whether he's going to pull up or is he going to, ah ...

GOODMAN: Going forward, as I understand it.

CIVELLA: Oh, that's, that's his position?

GOODMAN: That, as I understand it, there's been nothing that has ever been conveyed to me to the contrary.

CIVELLA: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. I, I'm only going to tell you this but you, then you got to leave it right or, you know.

GOODMAN: OK.

CIVELLA: OK. I was going to ask you that, to get ahold of him to have him reach me, see.

GOODMAN: All right.

CIVELLA: But, but I've already done it now.

GOODMAN: I see.

CIVELLA: All right. So, so please forget it.

GOODMAN: OK, fine.

CIVELLA: All right?

GOODMAN: Yes.

CIVELLA: You don't know anything about nothing about nothing, nobody know, he, he'll get back to me and let, then I'll do it my own way.

GOODMAN: Very good. I won't even say anything.

CIVELLA: All right. But can I, can I ask you without, ah, ah, not trying to compromise you, I just ask you as one, ah, you know, friend to another.

GOODMAN: Right

CIVELLA: Ah, what is your feeling about the position he's taking?

GOODMAN: Ah, well, ah, we get into that whole psychological profile.

CIVELLA: Yeah. Yeah. Back again to that.

GOODMAN: It's the old story.

CIVELLA: Yeah.

GOODMAN: The old story.

CIVELLA: Yeah.

GOODMAN: But, ah.

CIVELLA: Would you agree that he might be opening up a tremendous big can of worms?

GOODMAN: Ah I, I might agree to that, but he never would.

CIVELLA: (Unintelligible) I know what he'd never agree, but I don't think he's ever made a mistake in his life.

GOODMAN: Right.

CIVELLA: You know.

GOODMAN: Right.

CIVELLA: My god, I, I know people like that, you know.

GOODMAN: Right. But with the, the timing of certain things here, and, ah, things that are happening in town, and it's a shame that everything's, ah, culminating at the same time. Because, ah, one thing is going to affect, ah, others, that's my opinion.

CIVELLA: Yeah. Yeah.

GOODMAN: And, ah, there's nothing I can do to stop it.

CIVELLA: Have you expressed your concern to him, Counselor?

GOODMAN: Ah, not as strongly as I'm stating it to you.

CIVELLA: And why don't you?

GOODMAN: Because, ah, it would get ah, all it would do is get him to have another lawyer represent him.

CIVELLA: Well, sup --, but, as, but I mean is, you know, as, ah, as, ah, oh, I see. Well, ah, I guess that, that's, just, I thought maybe as, ah, you know, as just right-from-the-shoulder thing, I'd say, Look, you're gonna do it probably, but I, I'd be remiss if I didn't tell you exactly how I feel, you.

GOODMAN: Oh, I think we're about five years too late.

CIVELLA: Oh, really?

GOODMAN: Yes.

CIVELLA: Oh, boy.

GOODMAN: Yep. I, well, let me put it this way. Ah, ah, he feels that, ah, his, his manhood is at stake.

CIVELLA: Mas --, masculinity.

GOODMAN: Right. Well, whatever.

CIVELLA: Yeah.

GOODMAN: And, ah, it, he feels that he's been pushed around and he wants his opportunity to, ah, for whatever it's worth, to strike back. And this is, this is.

CIVELLA: Even if you become a snitch?

GOODMAN: No. No, I don't think he would ever go that.

CIVELLA: What, what, what, what degree do you, what degree does it, ah, difference, what difference is it?

GOODMAN: Well, ah, I, I've never even begun to talk in those terms.

CIVELLA: Well, what, now I, understand, I don't mean.

GOODMAN: I know what you're saying. You're saying.

CIVELLA: Well, what, actually, though, is the difference. Is there a moral difference?

(Unintelligible)

CIVELLA: Maybe, maybe there's a legal difference. Is there a moral difference?

GOODMAN: I'm gonna have to, I, I want to think about that.

CIVELLA: What, for Christ's sake. Ah, ah, I, I don't think you have to give it a lot of thought, Counselor.

GOODMAN: Well.

CIVELLA: You, you've probably written briefs on it, if, ah.

GOODMAN: Well, let me, let me say this. That, ah, if the inquiry is a narrow inquiry, as it, as it started out to be, ah, I don't see any problems. If it, ah, broadens, then, ah, then it's gonna be his decision as to how much he wants to answer. I, I'm, I would advise him to stop at a certain point. Ah, certainly.

CIVELLA: Sure, sure, because it could open a lot of, ah, you know. Don't forget, ah, we, we reach, sometimes we reach a point where we force an adversary to, to react a lot different than he would under ordinary circumstances. But when the circumstances become extraordinary, then he's forced to react. Don't you, you know, any, anybody can see, should be able to see that, that you cannot oppose that strongly, people in, in certain positions. Sensitive positions. Publicly. Just doesn't make fucking sense. But anyway, I don't know why I'm telling it to you. I should be telling it to him, which I will. Anyway, listen, I appreciate, I always, you always did say that I don't have any trouble getting you, and you're right, and I tell people, I reach him, I don't have any trouble.

GOODMAN: That's right. Whenever you need me.

CIVELLA: Listen, thanks for the call back.

[BREAK IN THE TAPE]

GOODMAN: ... that way.

CIVELLA: Yeah. Listen, what, ah, of course, I, I'm just repeating it, our conversation stays confidential.

GOODMAN: Fine. I didn't even talk to you.

CIVELLA: Client-attorney, right?

GOODMAN: Very good.

CIVELLA: Thank you, buddy. And, ah, my best at home.

GOODMAN: All right, And my best to everybody, too.

CIVELLA: Thank you very much.

GOODMAN: Nice speaking with you.

CIVELLA: Bye.

GOODMAN: Bye-bye.

source: http://archives.lasvegascitylife.com/articles/2012/01/27/news/local_news/iq_50603485.txt

[Talk between Francesco Del Balso and a heavy gambler named Dino]

Dino: "You owe me $17,000 and still haven't paid."

Del Balso: "Bro, there's no fuc**ng book in the city that doesn't belong to me, you know that? I have a fuc**ng book that's worth $50 million and you're telling me about $17,000. But you know how much we take? A billion dollars in action. You think I'm a fuc**ng clown or something, bro? I built a fuc**ng empire. What are you talking about 17 dimes ($17,000)? I spit on 17 dimes."

Dino: "I didn't call you a clown."

Del Balso: "I'm going to send my man Lorenzo ( Lorenzo Giordano) to talk to you. What the fuc*. Bring my fuc**ng money to me by the end of the week. I don't want to hear no story."

[Talk between Francesco Del Balso and a gambling clerk]

Clerk: "What's the password?"

Del Balso: "What password? It's me TT221."

Clerk: "Who is it?"

Del Balso: "It's the owner, Frank. Jesus Christ"

^ http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=861fe774-007c-4959-8933-f6a81de1a668 ^

[Vito Rizzuto talking to Rizzuto family money ower]

Rizzuto: I want 112 G'S today, I want my f***ing money today or Lorenzo (Lorenzo Giordano) says he's gonna grab you, He's gonna f***ing turn you into a pretzel.

There are three voices on this tape: The FBI informant, mob associate Ricky Silva, now in federal prison for a separate extortion case, and aging wise guy Anthony St. Laurent(Patriarca crime family). The meeting was called by "The Saint" as a job interview of sorts. The work? Gun down another mobster; Robert "Bobby" Deluca.

St. Laurent: "You interested in that other thing he told you?"

Silva: "Excuse me?"

St. Laurent: "You told him, right?"

Nardolillo: "Yeah."

St. Laurent: "You interested in that?"

Silva: "I'm going to have to talk about it."

St. Laurent: "Why?"

Silva: "I'm just ah..."

St. Laurent: "Tell me why though."

Nardolillo: "Like Ricky says, Bobby Deluca's a made guy."

St. Laurent: "No repercussions."

Nardolillo: "In other words, we don't want to have a problem."

St. Laurent: "It ain't going to be a problem one way or another."

Nardolillo: "We understand that. We don't want to have a problem with Louie after, either."

"Louie," according to federal prosecutors, is the reputed head of the New England crime family; Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio.

St. Laurent tries to reassure Silva and Nardolillo.

St. Laurent: "No repercussions. If you want, after it's done, I'll take you to him."

Silva: "What?"

Nardolillo: "One of us to Louie. He can take you, I'm not going."

St. Laurent: "I'll take you right to him."

Nardolillo: "To make sure we don't have repercussions."

St. Laurent: "And my word should be good enough."

Nardolillo: "No! Your word is good."

St. Laurent is in poor health, something he admits in the wiretap.

St. Laurent: "Everything is fine. I just can't walk, I can't walk... If I could be walking we wouldn't be here talking about it. You know what I mean?"

Investigators say St. Laurent wanted the hit to go down at Deluca's workplace, Sidebar and Grille, in Providence. But the tape reveals the men were worried about the location because of the steps that go down to the restaurant.

Nardolillo: "I don't want to get him in the joint; you have to get upstairs afterward. I'd rather get him outside. You know what I mean? I'd rather get him outside like walking to a car something like that where it's a lot easier."

What St. Laurent didn't know was that Silva wasn't going to take the job. It's clear he didn't want any part of killing a ranking member of the crime family. This is Silva and Nardolillo in the car, on the way to see St. Laurent.

Silva: "You can't kill a made guy and not have justification. that, Tony. That's playing with fire, man... $20,000 ain't worth me doing a life bid in jail."

source: http://www.wpri.com/dpp/target_12/local_...ia_20091102_nek

Mark Rossetti( Patriarca crime family capo and later on an FBI informant)trying to recruit this guy Michael Prochilo to do a robbery...


Prochillo: Hello?
Rossetti: Michael.
Prochillo: What up?
Rossetti: What are you doing buddy? What's your day look like tomorrow?
Prochilo: Tomorrow. I got a little bit of work in the morning and then that's it.
Rossetti: You want to hook up with me after work?
Prochillo: All right what time? What time you going to be around tomorrow? … Everything all right?
Rossetti: Well yeah, it could be.

In another call, Rossetti is heard talking to Quezada referring to church, which authorities say is code for doing the robbery.

Quezada: Are we going to church (expletive) tonight or tomorrow?
Rossetti: We were going to go yesterday, but you know, I don't know what the (expletive) happened to Buckwheat.
Q: Yeah, I need to repent, Goddammit.
R: Yeah, you should (laughs)
Q: You're (expletive) Jesus.

source:http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/18771802/2012/06/12/wiretaps-show-purported-mobster-heard-talking-about-break-in

“Shoot him in the (expletive) head. Say, ‘This is from the Saint,’ ” prosecutors allege St. Laurent coached an undercover cop posing as a hit man in 2007 on one of at least three attempts he made to execute DeLuca for control of his rackets, according to court papers.

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/02/gangster-to-plead-guilty-for-failed.html

a recorded conversation between reputed capo regime Edward “Eddy” Lato and a made member of the mob who was wearing a wire for the FBI, referred to tribute payments going to a boss named “Anthony” in Boston.

Lato: "He passes it all out ... he told me. I said, what?"
Witness: "Who?"
Lato: "You give all this away. He gives all that money away."
Witness: "Anthony?"
Lato: "What a spaccone. The other guy, his guy, ah, Mark, ah, and the other big kid, what's his name? The other one that got pinched with Mark."
Witness: "Oh, Darren. [sic]"
Lato: "Darren [sic]. What the [expletive], what do you keep for yourself... you got to keep this money for yourself, are you nuts?"
Witness: "So what's the sense..."
Lato: "So we're bringing you money and you're giving it away like [expletive] candy."
Witness: "And we're taking the shot."

"Their conversation then delved into their frustration over the fact that they send their tribute to the current Boss 'Anthony' and he then passes [it] out among other NELCN figures including Mark Rosetti and Darin Bufalino," prosecutors wrote in the court filing. "Lato then explained to the Made Member that his frustration is exacerbated by the fact that he believes that he is taking all the risk of being observed by law enforcement."

"Listen, if we take down a score," St. Laurent is quoted in the affidavit. "I'm gonna take some off the top for the old man."

The "Old Man" would be Manocchio, who turned 83 in June 2010. But unlike the previous Dons, who suffered from serious health problems, Manocchio is a health fanatic. Often seen running from his Federal Hill apartment to a nearby golf course; the elder Boss looked more like he was 50.

http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_wpri_underworld_bosses_rhode_island_20081124

John Gotti Jr wiretaps

On Curtis Sliwa, whose kidnapping Gotti allegedly orchestrated: "He's just a -- . . . . The guy was one of the most hated guys in the city, the police department hated him, everybody hated him and yet he's a millionaire today."
On life after Raybrookprison: "If they let me leave here, let me into Canada, I'd leave tomorrow morning. I'd leave. There's no longer anything here for me. Nothing. I have a bad taste in my mouth."
On a winning legal strategy: "That's how you win cases, PR. I need my mother, I need my mother, who knows what happened to my father, to go on Larry King and tell them what the government does. I need my sister, who's in the media business, to rally behind her brother."
On the mob: "I stay here, I gotta start killing people. I just wanna move on with my life. . . . Nothing good there, no good memories there. Nothing but treachery and deceit, that's all that's here, treachery and deceit."
On revenge: "If any of them ever come here . . . I swear it to you on my dead brother and my dead father, I swear to you I will meet them by that . . . door, with two padlocks in my hands, and I will crack their skulls. I promise you that. This I take as my solemn oath as a man."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2009/10/excerpts-of-junior-gotti-wiretaps.html

"You know they're Bonannos if they say, 'Hey, Bo, Hey, Bo,' " reputed acting capo Joseph "Joe Lefty" Loiacono, 64, allegedly joked to a fellow mobster.

"Ya know who used to do that all the time? Joey Massino," Loiacono said. "Do I want to do what he used to do? No way."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2009/10/bonanno-wiretaps-mob-leaders-thumbed.html

Massino, who is secretly leading Basciano down the garden path of betrayal, draws out the younger captain on what prosecutors said was the murder of Randy Pizzolo. It is the Pizzolo hit which involves the death penalty as spelled out in "King of The Godfathers."

Massino: I took twenty years to put this together. It's easy to take a life. I can take a life everyday.

Basciano: I know that.

Massino: What am I going to gain taking a life everyday?

Basciano: (Inaudible)

Massino: Who?

Basciano: Randy was fuckin' jerkoff, beau.

Massino: Yea, but did it warrant--wait a minute, did it warrant the clip?

Basciano: I tell you what, he goes into Villa Sonoma, drunk, with a fuckin' pistol.

Massino: So, why didn't you just chase him?

Basciano:...you want to know why? Because he's a fuckin' dangerous kid that don't fuckin' listen. He talks stupid, he talks that a fuckin' jerkoff. He's fuckin'--He just an annoying kid.

The tapes, transcripts of which are now available, continue to give insight into the way the Bonanno family was trying to regroup itself after Massino was convicted in July 2004. Massino annointed Basciano as a street boss who was supposed to consult two or three other trusted captain. But Basciano was so smitten by the power that he considered himself a first among equals, as this exchange with Massino shows. Basciano said that other captains had to check with him before ordering hits but he didn't have to check with anybody.

Though both worked together in the Bonanno family, the Massino tapes show that problems developed in late 2004, when Basciano acting as street boss gave Mancuso powers in case he (Basciano) was arrested. This was shown as Basciano talked with Massino in jail. The transcript is now on filed in Brooklyn federal court in Basciano's death penalty case.

Basciano: My objective over here was for Joe Massino, not for Vinny Basciano. I put everybody together as a tough guy and told everybody that this is for you, it's not me. I made certain decisions over there to avoid all the bullshit of comin'back and forth in the can and I hadda make them in street. I told everybody, these decisions that I'm making aren't set in stone. If Joe wants to change 'em, he changes them. I'm doin' this right now for the good of this [borgata]. Everybody agreed. Michael Nose says Vinny, you know somethin'? I'm proud of ya. ...

Massino: Well, there's somethin' wrong now because...

Basciano then tried to explain the problems with Mancuso.

Basciano: The problem is over here, the first message I think that went out. What happened was, Michael might have moved too fast...after I got pinched, he went to Dominick and he started askin' Dominick questions about what I had goin' on the street. Dominick caught a delusion 'casue I know they had an argument.

Massino: Okay, okay.

Basciano then said that it wasn't Mancuso's business what he had. But Massino interjected and said Basciano couldn't say it wasn't Mancuso's business "if it's comin' to La Cosa Nostra." In other words any crime family business was something Mancuso had to be aware of, said Massino.

During the January 7, 2005 jailhouse conversation Massino had with Vincent Basciano, which was secretly taped, both men talk about the elevation of one "Michael" presumably Michael Mancuso, to a position of power in the Bonanno family. Massino is secretly cooperating with the FBI and seems to be trying to challenge Basciano, who had been Massino's selection as acting street boss until he got arrested, on the selection of Mancuso. The taping is part of Chapter 28 in "King Of The Godfathers." The transcript is filed now in Brooklyn federal court in Basciano's upcoming trial.

Basciano: Michael is lookin' for his day in the sun. I put Michael there with your consent, and I appreciated Michael"s...

Massino: No, you didn't put Michael there with my consent, you did it on your own.

Basciano: Well, I sent word afterwards.

Massino: After you did it, what good is that? Well I'm goona be straight up with ya.

Basciano: Yea.

Massino: I wouldn't do that to you....

Later on, in a humorous reference, Massino remarks about how there was some suggestion in a magazine that he was friendly with some woman seen with him in a surveillance photo. Massino tells Basciano he didn't even know the woman and that his wife, Josephine had a catty remark about the woman shown in the photo.

Massino: My daughter tells me yesterday, my wife got a microscope. And she's lookin' and she's tellin' my daughter, she' too old and too fat, daddy wouldn't go with her.

Basciano: That's your wife's sayin'?

Massino: Yesterday I had too much to do. I got a visit. I hadda wash my clothes, two lawyer visits.

Basciano: Bo, washing your clothes is a fuckin' trip though, right?

Massino: I can't wear the , the briefs, I gotta, I got a bah I got four pairs of boxers.

Basciano: I don't know who you do it in the that shower.

* * *



Basciano: How you feel, buddy?

Massino: I feel good.

Basciano: Oh, yeah?

Massino: My sugar's been good, but.


Basciano: Right, right, right.

Massino: You never mentioned one word about Randy (Pizzolo)...That was on a Friday. The following Friday we had a co-defendant meeting that's when you tell me that yous clipped him. Why don't yous tell me that Friday? Why didn't you ask me?

Basciano: (sighs)

Masssino: Why didn't you ask me that Friday? You didn't.

Basciano: It was already in the works beau.

Basciano: They had to check with me.

Massino: Yeah, but you don't have to check with them.

Basciano: No.

Massino: Why? What makes the difference...you understand where I'm coming from?

Basciano: ...What I did what I tried to do, Joe, I tried to give a structure because everybody was all over the fuckin' board. And what I did, by me taking the reigns, I annointed myself, through you, as acting boss. I made Michael acting underboss and Anthony acting consiglieri. I told everybody: nobody makes a move without coming to me....

Basciano was apparently talking about Michael Mancuso and Anthony Rabito. Massino seemed a bit puzzled by Basciano's remarks, saying that he should sit down with the other so-called ruling panel members to discuss things. Massino said discussion was the way to do things, even when he was the boss. "I was the boss, and I used to sit down with Tony Green and Joe C., hey discuss things." Basciano agreed with Massino.


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"[Anthony] Ace Aiello is like a Luca Brasi," Basciano said, comparing the Bonanno soldier to the Corleone's loyal hit man, on recordings played in Brooklyn federal court yesterday.
"He's your Luca Brasi," Basciano said.

"Did your wife get the money, by the way?" Basciano asks on the recording. "I sent your wife money."
Massino replied that his wife, Josephine, received the tribute from Basciano, which was stuffed inside a bottle of champagne.
"A bottle of Dom Perignon. $50,000. It came from Vinny," Massino explained on the stand.
Prosecutors played the recordings Massino made in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn to prove that Basciano ordered the hit.
Massino proved adept at drawing out evidence for the feds.
"Randy -- you OK'd it?" Massino asked Basciano.
"I gave the order," Basciano replies. "Randy was a f--king jerkoff."
Massino pushed further. "Did it warrant the clip?"
Basciano explained that Pizzolo went to meet a made man while carrying a pistol -- a major Mafia no-no.
Massino kept pushing Basciano to reveal more.
"I don't want people talking that 'we' clipped Randy. 'You' clipped Randy," Massino said.
Massino explained to the court that "we" means the family, while "you" means Vinny ordering it on his own.
"No, nobody knows that. 'We' didn't do it," Basciano answers.
"He's a f--king dangerous kid, who don't listen. He's just an annoying kid," Basciano said.
"These guys were out there doing whatever the f--k they want. I thought this kid would be a good wake-up call for everybody.
"People get killed every day. They gonna blame everybody in The Bronx on me?" Basciano said.

The full weight of Massino's betrayal is made clear in the loyalty Basciano showed on the recording.
"I'd go to hell and back. I made an oath to you," he told Massino.
Massino, who turned informant in 2005 after being convicted of seven murders and facing death-penalty charges on an eighth, complained Basciano didn't clear the hit with him first.
"Why didn't you ask me?" Massino asked.
"It was already in the works, bo [slang for boss]," Basciano said. "This kid though . . . this kid deserved it. This kid was a f--king thorn. He didn't listen to no f--king body."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/joseph-big-joey-massino-recordings.html

He would shed light on slightly vague metaphors from Basciano, like when the latter said in a taped conversation, “It’s your show. I’m only out here running it for you.”

Massino clarified: “He’s running the Bonnano family.”

When a prosecutor asked the aging mobster what he meant by saying someone “had a hair up his nose about Michael,” Massino responded, “He had a bug up his ass.”

When Massino was asked to clarify what he meant by calling Vic “a boob,” he just repeated, “He was a boob,” which drew muffled snickering from several people in the federal court room.

“It takes all kinds of meat to make a good sauce,” he said at one point, as a metaphor for the many types of mobsters who constitute a good crime family.

Basciano did his fair share of talking on the tapes as well as the two discussed laundry, women and food. At one point he said, “I was f-----g made for this life.”

When Basciano was taped saying, “I told them who to use,” Massino told prosecutors that meant Basciano gave the order to use two members of the Bonnano family to murder Pizzolo in 2004.

When prosecutors played recordings of Massino discussing other mobsters who had worn a wire or his relationship with Basciano.

“I’m your boss, but I’m not your boss,” Massino said in a taped conversation. “I’m also your friend.”

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/feds-turned-bonnano-boss-massino-for.html

They groused about their accommodations.
MASSINO: Oh, you gotta see the flood I had in my cell yesterday.
BASCIANO: The toilet?
MASSINO: No, the f------ roof. Five towels, mopped the floor. I gotta walk around.
BASCIANO: That's my bunkie (cellmate). F------ jerk.
MASSINO: They're comin' to get us.
BASCIANO: Bo, I get stronger every f------ day.
They griped about their wives and girlfriends.
MASSINO: They come out with a magazine, FHM. It's about me. Paris. All the bull----. I'm at a wake, 1986, Frankie DeCicco. I'm walkin'....
BASCIANO: I saw it.
MASSINO: You see the girl alongside me?
BASCIANO: Oh no. I didn't see that. That's her, Bo?
MASSINO: No!
BASCIANO: Your wife saw that?
MASSINO: I don't know who the f--- she is. My daughter tells me yesterday, my wife got a microscope. And she's lookin' and she's tellin' my daughter, 'She's too old and too fat. Daddy wouldn't go with her.'
BASCIANO: That's your wife sayin'? On everything else you need this.
MASSINO: I really set her off. Really, really, really.
BASCIANO: She ain't gonna divorce you, Bo. My wife ain't gonna divorce me either.
MASSINO: I don't know. I don't know.
BASCIANO: Maybe if she seen that, she want my girlfriend ...
MASSINO: If I had a baby? Fuhgeddabout that.
BASCIANO: I denied it.
MASSINO: But with Big Lou (James Tartaglione, captain in Bonanno family), you tell him your girlfriend's pregnant? You had the baby already, no? Or am I wrong?
BASCIANO: Yeah, I had the baby already.
MASSINO: So what are you talking about pregnant?
BASCIANO: I never told about my girlfriend being pregnant. She had the baby two years ago. I said (to then-wife), 'Angela, it's not true.' I said, 'It's a lie.'
They marveled at the ascension of octogenarian gangster John "Sonny" Franzese to Colombo underboss.
MASSINO: I mean, the funniest thing, Sonny's gotta be 87 years old and I like Sonny. It's just crazy.
BASCIANO: You gotta see him. He's gonna be in here.
MASSINO: How long more does he got to live?
BASCIANO: He's in some shape, Bo. He might live to be a hundred. He'll be the screwiest underboss.
They pondered whether legit guys can double as gangsters.
BASCIANO: The only problem is Jerry, like you said, he works from nine to five.
MASSINO. That's OK. That was Ronnie Mozzarella's thing. 'Oh, I gotta go sell mozzarella.' I said you gotta go at night or the weekends. You can't stop a guy from makin' a living. You gotta service your guys. I lost my cake business. I lost my deli because I was on the lam. He shut right up.
BASCIANO: How did Ronnie Mozzarella get there? What was he born and became a mozzarella guy? He got there because of us.
They discussed the importance of leadership.
MASSINO: When you become a boss, you become a c---s-----. You can't make everybody happy ... I got the toughest f----- job in the world. If I listen to everybody I won't have a f----- friend. I'm not stupid. I didn't fall off no f----- pumpkin truck. To me, life is precious.
They waxed philosophic.
MASSINO: We got enough enemies. We're fighting the law. We're fighting the rats. We fight ourselves. We can't confuse our people. We gotta confuse the enemy.
BASCIANO: I know you're a compassionate guy and I know you believe in giving everybody a second chance.
They compared laundry.
MASSINO: Yesterday I had too much to do. I had to wash my clothes.
BASCIANO: Bo, washing your clothes is a f----- trip, though, right?
MASSINO: I can't wear the briefs. I got four pairs of boxers.
BASCIANO: I don't know how you do it in that shower.
And they parted friends - temporarily.
MASSINO: I'll see ya. Have a good weekend.
BASCIANO: I love you, Bo.
MASSINO: I love you too. It felt good, the (fresh) air.
BASCIANO: You sleep alright?
MASSINO: Eh, I'm not a sleeper.
BASCIANO: Yesterday, I passed your room, you had a towel over your head.
MASSINO: Yeah, because the light bothers my eyes. I read the (trial) minutes and s---.
BASCIANO: Take care.
MASSINO: Be good.

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/bonanno-mob-boss-big-joey-massino-chats.html

"I was thinking of who to put there, and Vinny Basciano put himself there," Massino said.
When Basciano's lawyer George Goltzer asked Massino if that meant he didn't want Basciano to take over, he said: "Correct . . . I could have killed him [Basciano]. They [the Genovese family] wanted to kill him. I said, 'Take a pass.' "

Massino said five hit men were hiding inside a closet and waited for a pre-arranged signal to jump out and begin firing at Dominick "Big Trin" Trinichera, Alphonse "Sonny Red" Indelicato, and Philip "Philly Lucky" Giaccone.
Massino said the three men were buried about 15 feet deep with the help of the Gambino family.
"John Gotti [who helped with the disposal] said, 'You'll never find them.' "

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/massino-saved-vinny-gorgeous-from-being.html

* Murder must look random instead of professional, so don't bury bodies in out-of-the-way locations. "Do it in the street. Throw [a body] in the street," Massino said.
* Massino said he didn't believe in hiring the family members of his soldiers because "you can't be a father and a son in the same crew. It don't work."
* And don't let fear stop you, he advised Basciano when discussing the younger man taking the reins. "You can't be afraid to be [in] the top seat. I wasn't afraid."
* As for ever trusting a lawyer to help communicate your orders, don't, he said. "A lawyer never gets a message right. I was getting messages [to people] through my daughter."
* Massino also said it was a complete violation of his policies for anyone to kill without his permission, insisting, "Life is precious to me."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/wiseguys-words-of-wisdom.html

"I don't know if I'm gonna get divorced," Massino confided to Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano in a secretly taped prison conversation.

Not even a delivered bottle of Dom Perignon champagne with $50,000 hidden inside could appease his fuming spouse.

"She's on tranquilizers and she's got my daughters going out of their f------ minds," the mob boss said.

"She started Thursday night with the girl again," he continued, apparently referring to testimony about a goumada at his trial.

Meanwhile, prison life was wearing down Massino.

"I went to the bathroom 15 times," he complained. "The food is terrible. The shower is terrible."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/joseph-massino-ex-bonanno-crime-boss.html

“He told me that they were going to make a move on me — they were going to kill me,” Massino testified. “If John was in the street, I believe him and my brother-in-law would have killed me.”

“I broke my f - - king ass like Guadalcanal,” Massino is heard telling Basciano on the tapes.
Ironically, Massino testified that even after many of his close associates had turned on him, Basciano remained loyal.
After he went to prison, only Vinny Gorgeous delivered a share of the earnings from the family’s various illegal businesses to Massino’s wife.
“I didn’t get a dime,” Massino said, referring to his loansharking business and his sports-betting operations.
“[Basciano] was the only person who was doing the right thing,” he said.

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/gottis-plan-to-whack-me.html

Massino then described how he secretly taped Basciano in prison talking about killing mob associate Randolph Pizzolo in 2004.
"He told me that he had him killed," Massino explained to the jury. "He said he was a scumbag, a rat, a troublemaker, a bad kid."
When asked what his last title was, Massino replied, "I was the boss - official boss."
"Was anyone above you?" assistant U.S. Attorney Taryn Merkl asked.
"Nobody," Massino replied.
Massino described what he did for the crime organization as, "murders, responsible for the family, make captains, break captains."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/mafia-turncoat-joseph-massino-ex.html

"Randy — you OK’d it?" Massino asked Basciano, referring to the murder of Bonnano associate Randy Pizzolo, for which Basciano faces the death penalty.
"I gave the order," Basciano replies. "Randy was a f—-ing jerkoff."
Massino then pushed him further.
"Did it warrant the clip?"
Basciano then explained that Pizzolo went to meet a made man while carrying a pistol – a major Cosa Nostra no-no.
Basciano said rather than just shun him from the family he had him whacked to set an example.
"He’s a a f——ing dangerous kid, who don’t listen. He’s just an annoying kid," Basciano said.
"These guys were out there doing whatever the f—- they want," he added, referring to the behavior of other Bonnano members. "I thought this kid would be a good wake up call for everybody."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/mob-boss-confirms-hit-while-wearing.html

Wiretapped conversations between Gambino members and action-star Steven Seagal.

On the FBI tape, they say that the tough-guy actor was "petrified." At this meeting Anthony 'Sonny' Ciccone, an alleged capo in New York's Gambino organized-crime family, and his "right-hand man," Primo Cassarino, joked with Vincent Nasso about Seagal's less than heroic reactions to their shakedown attempts. The whole situation brought out the 'Paulie Walnuts' in Cassarino. "I wish we had a gun on us," he says on the tape, "that would have been funny."
The Gambino family wanted him to keep making action films, and they also wanted him to pay them $150,000 for each of his futures projects.

But Jules Nasso on a previous occasion had warned Ciccone that Seagal wouldn't scare easily. As quoted by Jerry Capici on his Gangland website, FBI wiretaps overheard Nasso saying, "You really gotta get down on him. 'Cause I know this animal, I know this beast. You know, unless there's a fire under his ass."

But Ciccone and his crew were prepared to set that fire under Seagal. At the Gage and Tollner's meeting, Ciccone said to Seagal, "Look at me when I talk to you. We're proud people... Work with Jules and we'll split the pie." Primo Cassarino later took Seagal aside and told him, "If you would have said the wrong thing, they would have killed you."

source: http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/scams/steven_seagal/index.html

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Worlds most famous tapped convo between mob boss Frank Costello & judge Thomas Aurelio...

"How are you, and thanks for everything," Aurelio said.

"Congratulations," Costello answered. "It went over perfect. When I tell you something is in the bag, you can rest assured."

"It was perfect," Aurelio said. "It was fine."

"Well, we will all have to get together and have dinner some night real soon."

"That would be fine," the judge-to-be said. "But right now I want to assure you of my loyalty for all you have done. It is unwavering."

Despite the disclosure of the wiretap, the grateful Aurelio went on to be elected to the judgeship after beating back disbarment proceedings. Clearly, when Costello said something was in the bag, it was in the bag.

source: http://www.fofweb.com/History/MainPrintP...mp;WinType=Free

[John Gotti speaking to Sammy Gravano]

Gotti: Soon as anything happens to me, I'm off the streets. Sammy is the Acting Boss. So, I'm asking you... How do you feel? You wanna stay as Consigliere.. or you want me to make you offical Underboss?.. Acting Boss? How do you feel?, What makes you feel better? .. Think about it.

[John Gotti speaking to an unknown Gambino associate and a soldier named Frank]

Gotti: I wanna know when they got in them and how they got in them! These are all businesses that nobody had a f***ing year ago, Frank!. On my back!?... My son didn't open no new companies up.

Frank: Ok, ok, ok.

Gotti: My brothers didn't, my son in laws didn't. They open no new companies up. They took it upon themselves. Sammy made my brother Pete get involved with that f***ing a**hole with the windows. He never made a dime, He's going to jail for it. Well tell me something that one of my family got that they never had it before?. I'll make you f*** him in the a**!.

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTaHAuxQVvY ^

[Joseph Iannuzzi and Tommy Agro]

Agro: I had you all over f***ing Florida! But f***ing 10 years you did this. I did the longest and worst and what you did was you f***ed me!

Iannuzzi: All you did! was robbed someone, put it in you're pocket and lie to me and hide it from me. And that's all you f***ing did! Lie, double bang everybody.

Agro: I told you this last year!. You keep f***ing with me and I'm going to leave you all by yourself. Let me tell you something my friend, I like you very much. You got away of murder from me. But I always thought you would turn and be a f***ing man with me. Because I respected you and made a f***ing man out of you all over Florida. You're only alive because I kept you. You aint even supposed to be alive because I was making an example of you for any motherf***er that traded me out again!. You would of been gone, You aint supposed to walk away anymore. You f***ed me and that's the worst thing you ever did!. I got guys that would eat your eyes out of your f***ing head!.

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUCo1HqZUA ^

In May 1962 while staying at the Volney Hotel in New York City,Meyer Lansky described the G-men as "racketeers" and the "new mafia":

LANSKY:They're nothing but racketeers, every one of them. After five years they get out, get on a big corporation's payroll. Now what happens, you and I . . . let's say I work for IBM. You came. They say [redacted] is doing the same business. He has no FBI guys working for him. Pop, they chop his legs off. They find him with a sweetheart, they find him with this, they find him with that. This thing's gonna get an investigation. It's a new mafia. The investigators are going to get investigated. It's just a matter of time. It's the same with those senate investigators. You remember those McCarthy hearings. That lying with the pictures.

On another occassion Lansky referred to Bobby Kennedy as "an arrogant punk" who had no right to judge the mob life:

LANSKY:Let me tell you something. Anyone who hasn't lived, hasn't the right to tell anyone else anything. He's a young boy, 37 years old. He hasn't lived yet and he wants to tell others how to live. He's an arrogant punk.

In June 1962 when discussing race with some associates at his New York City hotel room, Lanksy said the following with respect to blacks:

LANSKY:If you find a person stealing who doesn't have enough to eat, there a reason. But tell me why you steal if you've got money in your pocket. You see these n***** [n-word] kids stealing. Their parents are ignorant, no education. There's a certain spark in them.

He further stated that LANSKY:"n****** [n-word] are getting even with white people through welfare and they're laughing at the white people."

And then when comparing Scandanavians against Latinos he stated:

LANSKY:They're not only physically healthy, but their lives are more healthy. They're cleaner. They're not as criminal as some of the other nationalities. The Latins are more criminal. They had to steal to subsist.

source: http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/2012/05/meyer-lansky-in-his-own-words.html ...theres also some fbi documents on Lansky

[Donnie Brasco "Joseph D. Pistone" talking first with John "Boobie" Cersani and secondly with Dominic "Sonny Black" Napolitano on October 21st, 1980 at 12:20am]



Cersani: Hello.

Pistone: Hello.

Cersani: Yeah?

Pistone: Donnie..

Cersani: Yeah Donnie?

Pistone: What's going on?

Cersani: How are you Donnie?

Pistone: Alright, how are you?

Cersani: How's Florida?

Pistone: Hahaha, come down and visit.

Cersani: You must be used to it by now.

Pistone: Yeah, what a way from you to come back.

Cersani: Well yeah, now I'm about ready to come back.

Pistone: Well listen, now you come back, the dog tracks are open. I mean theres something to do at night.

Cersani: Aha...

Pistone: We go at dog races...

Cersani: Yeah..

Pistone: You know...

Cersani: Aha...

Pistone: Now we don't have to sit around and be dead at night.

Cersani: Yeah, that sounds good.

Pistone: I've taken a beating at the dogs though, but your lucky. So maybe eh... You come down and my luck will change.

Cersani: Wait a minute Donnie (Conversation cuts off)


[Pistone and Sonny Black]

Sonny: Where are you now, home?

Pistone: Yeah... is Lefty there?

Sonny: He's across the street Lefty. He's laying in the truck. He's gotta get rid off the lion.

Pistone: Yeah I know, who is he gonna give it to?

Sonny: You know what he wanna do, he's crazy.

Pistone: Why?

Sonny: He said he'd ship it down there and can chain it at back of the club.

Pistone: He's screwy!

Sonny: Yeah, he's nuts.

Pistone: A lion in a chain, imagine that?

Sonny: None, theres no question about it.

Pistone: Yeah well listen, you know the lady that we caught down in Miami. Yeah well uh, she want's 200. You know for the service.

Sonny: What weekly?

Pistone: No, from when we started to upto now.

Sonny: Alright, so give it to her.

Pistone: Alright, I just wanted to clear it with you.

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OswY2bjuk2k ^

[Joseph D. Pistone "Donnie Brasco" talking with Benny "Lefty Ruggiero]

Lefty: You're gonna be sent for. And I promise you one thing. Nothings gonna happen to you. Cause I stuck up for you. All the way. I warned you, I'm not giving you up, I die with you. In other words, I want this guys head. I got to have his head. Cause he's looking for mine.

Pistone: Why would I wanna become inducted as a wiseguy. I'm having a good time now.

Lefty: Donnie. You can lie, you can steal, you can cheat, you can kill and it is all legitimate.

[Another talk between Benny "Lefty Ruggiero" and Joseph D. Pistone]

Lefty: Hey Donnie, what happened?

Pistone: Huh?

Lefty: What happened last night?

Pistone: Last night? I called you this morning.

Lefty: No, you didn't call me this morning.

Pistone: No, I missed you. I called you by the club.

Lefty: Let me tell you something, I got to the club 2 O'clock this afternoon. You wasn't there at 2 O'clock so I left.

Pistone: I called you there at eh, quarter 11.

Lefty: Let me tell you something Donnie, the man never told me nothing (club owner). He's playing games with me. He knows that I'll him and I don't like whats going on... What happened to you last night Donnie, you never answered my question.

Pistone: I went down to the bookie joint, I asked for you but he said you weren't there but Sonny was there.

Lefty: Let me tell you something my friend, I waited there 10 minutes to 11 for your phone call.

Pistone: I'll just call you tonight, I'm just a bit sleepy.

Lefty: That's your f***ing problem Donnie.

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4tsq3HXPB4 ^ - Hard to understand at certain moments.

The first was from an electronic surveillance pursuant to a court order which was executed by the members of the New York City Police Department in May 1963. The occurrence had taken place in the third week of April. This is within a matter of weeks. The people involved, Peter Ferara, who was a Capo, and the Carlo Gambino LCN family, and Michael Scandifia, who at that time is an acting Capo.

MIKE. He was told specifically * * *
PETE. To come and see me?
MIKE. You're a captain. No, they don't want to come to you. They don't want to come to you to embarrass you with your daughter.
PETE. Who did they tell that to?
MIKE. They told that to Freddy.
PETE. Yeah.
MIKE. They don't want to embarrass you. Three of them called. To him. They said, "We don't want to go to Petey Pumps, we don't want to embarrass him with his daughter."
PETE. They already did.
MIKE. They already went to you * * * er * * * this week * * * this is the bullshit.
PETE. Yeah.
MIKE. They don't want to give you no * * * in other words, they are telling you they don't want to embarrass you. In other words, they won't go to the convent. Well, I would say, right now, they are giving you the zing. You want us to go to the convent? You want us to embarrass you? Well, then, see that the right thing is done.
PETE. Yeah.
MIKE. Actually, what it boils down to, they're looking to use a stick. "But now we'll go on midnight raids. We'll do this, we'll do that, we'll do the other thing. You're a Captain. You belong to Carl's Family".
PETE. Well, previous to that he hands me Carlo's picture. "You know him?" I said, "Sure I know him". "How long you know him?" "I know him twenty, thirty years".
MIKE. They didn't expect you to say nothing.
PETE. "Can you tell us anything about him?" "The only thing I could tell you about him is that he is a business man, been in business all his life. Brought up four kids. They had a good education. They're all in business. They all went to college and married a profession. I said, what else could you ask for? He's got a nice family". See what they do * * * they want to get a message through. I mean get a messagethrough someplace. There's no question about it.
MIKE. They want to put the heat on you, me.
PETE. Yeah.
MIKE. Because here's the proof of it. They've gone to every Captain.
PETE. Yeah.
MIKE. And they call them "Captains". One guy said "Foreman" And the other guy said "Capo Regina". I mean they're going right to each head. To the head of everybody they're going to. But for them to say this, when he told me this, I said "Jimmy, I think he already saw them".
PETE. Yeah.
MIKE. "I think he already saw them" I said. Now to put the heat on him to go to his daughter, I said, this don't make sense to me. I said, "Where the (obscene) does this come into the picture?" Now they don't want to embarrass you.
PETE. What are they going to embarrass me for? What can they do? Go up there?
MIKE. Well, God forbid! They can't * * * they can't throw her out.
PETE. No.
MIKE. They couldn't throw Albert's brother out. How are they going to throw her out?
PETE. Nah. They can't throw her out.
MIKE. Embarrassment, that your daughter is a nun. I mean, Jesus Christ! it's supposed to be an honor.
PETE. They can't do nothing. They won't do nothing.
MIKE. Dirty (obscene)! Now that they bring out everything Pete, the Cosa Nostra is a wide open thing.
PETE. Yeah.
MIKE. It's an open book.
PETE. It's an open book.
MIKE. Pete, you know as well as I do, familiarity with anything whatsoever breeds contempt. We've had nothing but familiarity with our Cosa Nostra * * * if it brings up sides what the hell are we supposed to do? I only know one thing Pete. The Cosa Nostra is the Cosa Nostra. You just do what the (obscene) bosses tell you!

source: http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo2/jfk5/saler.htm

^^^ This is the Ralph Salerno Testimony.Its a very good read!

You trying to muscle me Toodoped? The wiretap war is on.

Bring it on!

Paul Castellano to Joseph "Piney" Armone during a recorded talk:

Castellano:"You only live once, Piney. Am I right? You don't get to do everything. No one does. Me, I got no regrets. The thing I wish, I wish I had more education. I wish I was more, ya know, educated. But I say that now. At the time, what I wanted was the streets, so I took 'em. I always felt, if there's something you want to do, do it now. Don't fuck around waiting. Am I right?"

Armone:"Yeah, Paul, you're right."

Castellano:"But at the same time, let's not kid ourselves.
This life of ours, this is a wonderful life.
If you can get through life like this and get away with it, hey, that's great. But its very, very unpredictable. There's so many ways you can screw it up. So you gotta think, ya gotta be patient. A lotta guys they're yanking their zipper before their dick's put away, then they wonder why they got snagged. And they don't know when to zipper their fucking mouth shut, either.
I tell 'em 'You listen, you learn. You talk, you teach.' Am I right, Piney?"

Armone:"Yeah, Paul, you're right."

Castellano:"Because there's just so many fucking things that can blow up on you."

Armone:"Yeah, Paul, there are."

Castellano:"There's so many ways they can get you."

other recorded conversation..

Castellano:Look, when we sit down to clip a guy, we have to remember what's at stake here. There's some hazards. Guys forget that. They get a guy behind in his vig payments, they get a hard on about it, right away they want to whack him.
Why? Just because they're pissed off, they're aggravated. But what I say is:
"Hey, you're making a living with this guy. He gets you aggravated, and right away you want to use the hammer!
How do you get your fucking money then?"
It's means and ends. The idea is to collect.

Armone:But you know, Paul, I think some guys just take so much pleasure from breaking heads that they'd almost rather not get paid.

Castellano:Yeah, yeah. We got some guys like that. Dick fists, I call 'em. I'm always sayin' to 'em,
"Just to take a guy out, that ain't the point." Because I tell ya', Piney,
anytime I can remember that we knocked guys out, it cost us.
It's like there's a tax on it or some shit.
Somebody gets arrested. Or there's a fuckup, which means we gotta clip another guy, maybe a guy we don't wanna lose.

source: http://www.gambino.com/bio/paulcastellano.htm

Gotta say im off for tonight!cheers King

[John Gotti in a Brooklyn meeting]

Gotti: I'm not in the mood for the toys, or games, or kidding. I'm not in the mood for clans. I'm not in the mood for gangs. I'm not in the mood for none of that stuff there. This is gonna be La Cosa Nostra till I die. Be it an hour from now, or be it tonight, or hundred years from now when I'm in jail. La Cosa Nostra. This ain't gonna be a bunch of your friends, they're gonna be friends of ours. But at the same time would be friends of ours. It's gonna be the way I say its gonna be. La Cosa Nostra. Because a guy is nice to you and I'm not talking about you. I'm just saying you might. Makes him a good guy. It makes him a motherf***er to me. It don't make him a good guy. It makes him a good guy if he's one of us and proves he's part of us. And I'm the best judge of that, I think right now. So you got a reason Frank, say it. I love you, say it, but thats not the point. This thing here, I'm not so sure of the five guys that I'm putting in are the first five guys that should be going in. What can you do? I'm doing it because I want this thing to be proper. We get some guys that can preserve it and they'll be there forever. They won't be having secret f***ing. Parties where people won't be allowed. That we don't want and that we don't need. I wanna see an effort. I gotta see an effort for La Cosa Nostra. How many of these guys come to me, come tell me I feel sorry for you got trouble. I don't, I don't need that. I ain't got no trouble, I'm gonna be alright. They got the f***ing trouble.


[Jimmy Fratiano with an unknown organized member named Chuck]

Chuck: Yeah Jimmy?

Jimmy: Yeah Chuck?

Chuck: Yeah, I been tied up all weekend.

Jimmy: Chuck, I'm gonna tell you something. You have that $200 in my f***ing hands by tomorrow. If you ain't got the $200 in my f***ing hands tomorrow, you understand me?

Chuck: Mmmmm..

Jimmy: You better stay there because I tell you. You've reached the end of the line with me my friend. You have one more time, no more bull***t. By tomorrow night at 6 O'clock. You have that $200 in this joint. Believe me kid, If I don't see it by 6 O'clock you don't owe nobody nothing. You understand? You have it by 6 O'clock by tomorrow night. By god I promise you, Believe me I promise you. I'll break every f***ing bone in your body before I go to jail. Every f***ing bone in your body! I swear on my kids. You understand?

Chuck: Yeah, I do.

Jimmy: Alright, good.

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnvbfeEyC...ture=plpp_video ^

Cool,i never knew that Fratiano's voice was on that wiretap

, Good isn't it? You gotta get up a little early to catch me Toodoped.

[Jimmy Fratianno]

Fratianno: I kill people better than others, I think it would bother me If I killed an innocent person.

Man: What do you mean by innocent person.

Fratianno: Well, your an innocent person my friend.

High tension convo between Frank Sinatra & Control Board's chairman Ed Olson bout Sinatra's casino license...

Frank:"You listen to me Ed... .you're acting like a fucking cop, I just want to talk to you off the record."

Ed:"Who I am speaking to?"

Frank:"This is Frank Sinatra! You fucking asshole! F-R-A-N-K, Sinatra."

Frank:"Now, you listen Ed! I don't have to take this kind of shit from anybody in the country and I'm not going to take it from you people...I'm Frank Sinatra!"

Frank:"You just try and find me," the singer threatened, "and if you do you can look for a big fat surprise...a big fat fucking surprise. You remember that, now listen to me Ed, don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with me, just don't fuck with me."

Ed:"Are you threatening me?"

Frank:"No...just don't fuck with me and you can tell that to your fucking board of directors and that fucking commission too."

Ed:"It might be better for all concerned if you concentrate on your enterprises elsewhere and depart the Nevada gambling scene?!"

Frank:"I might just do that. . .and when I do, I'm going to tell the world what a bunch of (obscene gerund) idiots run things in this state."

The next day two investigators came to watch the count at the Cal-Neva and Sinatra yelled across the casino to Skinny D'Amato, "Throw the dirty sons of bitches out of the house."

But since the count had already started, the agents left before an incident could be started, but came back the next day, only to have D'Amato offer them $100 each "to cooperate." The agents reported the bribe to Olson, who took moves to revoke Sinatra's license.

source: http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_109.html

[Federico "Fritzy" Giovanelli and Frank "Frankie California" Condo]

Fritzy: Hey, Frankie, these are the best two fucking days, yesterday and, and today so far.

Frank: I'm glad, I'm happy.

Fritzy: I'm already planning' all f***inh rapes, I'm planning.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: Marone. You better keep quiet somebody might be there.

Fritzy: No, there's nobody, only the cleaning woman. And she's about 60-years-old.

Frank: Eh.

Fritzy: Well, did you come down last night?

Frank: No.

Fritzy: Ah, good. I, I, she bought some, uh, I had my friend with me.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: He's calling me f***ing names. Freddy the Frog, Frankie the Frog.

Frank: Me too?

Fritzy: Yeah, Frankie the Frog, Freddie the Frog. Oh yeah, he goes, “I gotta call…that's better, Frankie the Frog.” Well I says, “Well Freddy the Frog is Frankie's brother.”

Fritzy: I says, “Hey, we're brothers, so you…” alright, he's calling, ah, ah, what the fuck was he, all f***ing names. He's crazy. He's crazy.

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: He’s crazy.

Fritzy: What? He’s goin’, “Frog.” Meantime, thought in my f***ing head he win the game. He knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. He gives ya a f***ing spin.

Frank: Why'd ya go down Sunday? You're starting to break him in again.

Fritzy: Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah.

Frank: You're breaking him in again. He'll have you down there all summer.

Fritzy: Fuck that. I ain't going, I got too many f***ing things, my, I, uh, he told the other guy, the other guys going to California.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He said he told Larry, he says, “You gotta hang around.”

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He says, “You wanna bury me,“ he told him. Larry says, “You wanna give me the f***ing last rites.”

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: Mannaggia marone. This guy, this guy's got cancer, he dyin' and everything.

Frank: F***ing joint, he's worried about that joint stayin' open.

Fritzy: I don't know.

Frank: Huh.

Fritzy: Huh.

Frank: Uh. Wants to keep the f***ing joint night and day, night and day.

Fritzy: I know.

Frank: People open four o'clock in the afternoon. He wants to open Saturday and Sunday, seven o'clock in the morning.

Fritzy: What the f*** is there?.

Frank: Nobody.

Fritzy: What the f*** is there?. You know? Ha?

Fritzy: Anyhow, you uh, you feeling a little better?

Frank: Yeah, I feel better.

Fritzy: But you're rested up more, ya know, I mean…

Frank: I've been coughing.

Fritzy: Well you bet, look, hang up now and go, find out what time your appointment. Whatya, ya, ya. Ya know the guy might have morning appointments. He may, may have it in the afternoon. Call right now. Get that resolved Frank.

Frank: As soon as I come back from that f***ing appointment I'm starting exercising

Fritzy: Well, find out what they tell you.

Frank: You got all that stuff down there you never use it. I wish I had that, I'd be using it everyday.

Fritzy: Frankie, Frankie, my life is not that f***ing easy.

Frank: You got no time for yourself.

Fritzy: Alright, my f***ing life ain't that easy.

Frank: Try and get The Rubber this week. The Rubber.

Fritzy: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Rubber, The Rubber killed me.

Frank: Now listen to me. You leave that part of your body alone.

Fritzy: The Rubber killed me.

Frank: The other part. You see how nice your face looked? You circulated your blood.

Fritzy: You're right.

Frank: That was good for you.

Fritzy: You're right. But I, I just gotta give myself some time. Once I got the...

Frank: He could rub you down there, it's all cured.

Fritzy: Once I'm cured I want it to heal now. I gotta put the heat and the medication until for another day or two while I'm heal, ya know healing it up. I finally got, ya know, some place. I, I mean Frankie, you woulda heard the click here like the boom that went in. Ya know, ya know I went to chiropractors, I went everyplace I went. I went to the bone man. I got all kind of medication. The chiropractor all he did was press on me.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He didn't do no f***ing stretching like this, this was a, if you come here and see the way I stretch it, and it's an actual pull. You know a lot of times we pull our legs and all that there. It ain't good enough. You know what I'm talking about?

Frank: In the old days of the, the rack.

Fritzy: Of the rack. The same thing like the rack. If you come, you see this is like the rack.

Frank: You would have no trouble.

Fritzy: No trouble at all. Your f***ing back is fine. Well that's what I got here. I got the rack.

Frank: Put them on the rack.

Fritzy: Yeah I got the rack. Come here, you'll see the rack.

Fritzy: Yeah, it's great. I got the cure now. My cousin Patty was walking by this morning.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: I said, “What's the matter?” “My f***ing sciatica.” I says, “Come with me, come to my house. Right now I cure you.” “Nah, nah, nah.” “Come with me,” I told him.

Frank: He’s on the rack.

Fritzy: Yeah, I put him on the f***ing rack. I straightened him out.

Frank: You're gettin' more people comin' there now.

Fritzy: I know, well look, I cured him.

Frank: They'll be coming from all over .

Fritzy: I'll cure them.

Frank: Before you know it, you'll be putting a shingle out.

Fritzy: Of the cure. I got the cure. You know something, how much money I went through? Have you any idea?

Frank: And all you needed was the rack.

Fritzy: The rack. And that's all anybody does need is the rack.

Frank: And it pulled it right out, huh?

Fritzy: That's right. That's all you need. But you see that other, c'mere, you see that other, thing the gravity bar?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: It's not good enough.

Frank: No.

Fritzy: Because you need somebody else pulling ya on the other side. To pull you down, to give you that, ah, to pull you in.

Frank: Yeah, huh.

Fritzy: Yeah. I, I, I, I'm finding all the medications over here.

Frank: Now you feel good?

Fritzy: Well, so, look, Frankie I don't wanna talk myself into, ya know what I mean? Into something.

Frank: If you got a click there that was just…

Fritzy: I got a big click.

Frank: Yeah, that's it.

Fritzy: A big click. Even my wife heard it.

Frank: There's no more clicks?

Fritzy: No, now since I been hanging, no click. In other words after that major click that one thing, no more.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: I haven't heard anymore now. I've done it already four times since then. And I'm going now, I’m going on right now.

Frank: Maybe I'll come there, get one too.

Fritzy: Well, whenever you want, you come over here, nice, you lay out, and I show ya how. And you give yourself as much force as you wanna give yourself. Nobody's gonna force. In other words, it's a question of how much you wanna give yourself.

Frank: You’re getting taller than me now…

Fritzy: You better believe it, wait'll you see. Either that or I was…

Frank: Hah?

Fritzy: Ya know what my wife told me?

Frank: Hah?

Fritzy: My wife told me about my mother-in-law. My mother-in-law hurt her vertebraes going back. She broke her back. All, real tough time she had.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Do you know that woman shrunk three inches?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Because of the disintegrating vertebraes?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Three inches!

thats fritzy!lol. sounds just like him. he could chew your fucking ear off quicker than a rotweiler. his sentences sounded just like that to.lol...'yeah, hey, well, the fuck, you know, that fucking, that,that,that fucking guy, he,he,he just, just fucking, fucking, fucking,.....' .lol! and all you could get in edgwise was a quick 'uh huh'.lol. he is a real gentlemen. very,and i mean very generous guy.

lol. 'Fritzy: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Rubber, The Rubber killed me.

Frank: Now listen to me. You leave that part of your body alone.

Fritzy: The Rubber killed me.

Frank: The other part. You see how nice your face looked? You circulated your blood.

Fritzy: You're right.

Frank: That was good for you.

Fritzy: You're right. But I, I just gotta give myself some time. Once I got the...

Frank: He could rub you down there, it's all cured. ' haha

Lol. Yeah, I wish he didn't swear as much. It takes me longer to add the **** sign.

[Federico "Fritzy" Giovanelli and Frank "Frankie California" Condo talking about financial advice]

Frank: Well, you got a, you, you were workin' a little bit, no Freddie?

Fritzy: Yeah, I am. Yeah, well, my boss has been good with me.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Yeah. I'll tell ya, I got sick, he didn't take me off the payroll or nothin', ya know?

Frank: Oh, that's nice.

Fritzy: He, ya know, he was very good about it. So...

Frank: That's good.

Fritzy: So, at least I, I didn't have to go on a f***ing disability claim.

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: Well, thank God for that.

Frank: That's the main thing.

Fritzy: In other words, I had to go on disability.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Who the f***, how the f*** you gonna survive?

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: You know, uh, lot of things.

Frank: I know what it is. I get my pension check, my friend, helps me out a lot, too.

Fritzy: Eh, I wish I had one.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: I wish I had one...

Frank: I worked all my life.

Fritzy: I, well, whattya think I done?

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: Ya know, I'm on a f***ing, I'm paying Social Security since I'm 18. I'm 53 years old. I never missed a f***ing year.

Frank: Well, you have a pension when you get older.

Fritzy: Yeah, but look at the, what pension I'm gonna have?

Frank: Why?

Fritzy: I, if I could take my money, Reagan (President) is passing a new law.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: That you don't have to join the Social Security.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And you as an individual could say, "I don't wish to participate in Social Security."

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Now, there's states that abide by that, ya know?

Frank: Yeah, but that's a good thing.

Fritzy: What?

Frank: Social Security.

Fritzy: No it ain't.

Frank: Why?

Fritzy: Because if you add up what I put into Social Security...

Frank: Yeah, go ahead and add it up. And when you hit 65, you know what you're gonna get back?

Fritzy: What?

Frank: You get like 1500 a month. You might get a thousand a month and you might, say you're gonna live 'til 80 years old.

Fritzy: Yeah. Oogatz, yeah.

Frank: You gonna live 65, 70, 75...

Fritzy: Yeah. Tony Andrews, the first f***ing check he never cashed. He was 65.

Frank: He did, he never...

Fritzy: He never cashed the f***ing thing.

Frank: No, he died, huh?

Fritzy: He died, before, he couldn't even cash the f***ing thing. It came and he died before...

Frank: How long is he dead now?

Fritzy: Marone. I don't know, about ten years.

Frank: He woulda been, like uh...

Fritzy: Nah, he woulda been...

Frank: 75.

Fritzy: 75. He was young.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He was young, ya know. But, hey, the booze.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: The f***ing booze.

Frank: That f***ing booze, you abuse it.

Fritzy: An alcoholic. I used to call him Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Yep, no f***ing good.

Frank: He borrowed ya?

Fritzy: Yep, but that, I don't care about that. I don't mind a guy borrowin', he ain't got nothing. This guy's got.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Yeah, this coc*suck**. This, I'm gonna, ya know, really. He's got...

Frank: ...home, he's got a, he's got a condominium.

Fritzy: He's got a condo, he's buyin' a new car. That's when I wanna, "You coc*suck**. That three, that five, six thousand dollars that you gonna go put on a f***ing car, you f***ing no good coc*suck**, you." You know, really?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: No good bas***d

Frank: Never made an attempt...

Fritzy: What about all the f***ing jewelry, all the f***ing jewelry they got. Nice.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: If I had, I owed my f***ing money, I'd take all the rings, everything I got and I'd go and sell 'em and say, "Here, lemme pay my debts."

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Who the f***? What kinda? I'll tell ya one thing. The day I live and the day I die, when I die, nobody's gonna come and say, "The man owed me ten thousand. The man owed me two thousand." I ra, I will go to work before it ever comes.

Frank: ...the same way

Fritzy: Before it comes to that. Before it ever comes to that.

Frank: Freddie.

Fritzy: Cause some people, they got no face, they got.

Frank: That's right.

Fritzy: I'll tell ya, I'll tell ya. That's why I say, all my f***ing life, I says, I used to laugh, "This guy. Oh, what a wonderful guy. That guy. Oh yeah, alright." I says, ya know what I used to say? "I ain't got much, but they gotta shine my f***ing shoes as far as f***ing principle."

Frank: You gotta be, you better believe that.

Fritzy: Yeah. No, to myself I used to say. I says, "Look at all this f***ing bulls**t." To myself, I know my conduct. And that's all I...

Frank: You got a heart of gold, Freddie.

Fritzy: No, pa, look. The heart is one thing.

Frank: You gotta heart of f***ing gold.

Fritzy: Ya hear what I says?

Frank: Make a fool out of you.

Fritzy: Cal, the heart is one thing. The second thing is the face.

Frank: Yeah, I know...

Fritzy: The face, the face is more important.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: In other words, they got they got the face of a wh***. They don't give a f*** one way or the other, "Well, yeah. Okay." I gotta have somebody be little me.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: And while I know I'm.., ya gotta know how to co, how to handle them people, you know what I mean? You know, that, that's their game. That's the way. "Alright, fine." There's just so much you, you do. And just so much that comes and reverse.

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: But this guy turned out to be a real lemonade.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: And he, he abused his family, that dirty coc*suck**. Not even his own sister's talkin' to him now.

Frank: No kiddin'?

Fritzy: Sure. He abused...

Frank: That how bad he is?

Fritzy: What?

Frank: That's how bad he is, huh?

Fritzy: You know how much money he took away from them? Have you any idea?

Frank: Hey, Freddie. A junkie and a degenerate gambler is the same thing.

Fritzy: Well, I'll tell ya something. I wanna, he, ya know, he, he, he, eh, ya know, eh, he just, he's out of line. He's way outta f***ing line, this guy.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He's just outta line.

Frank: He don't gamble no more, huh?

Fritzy: Eh, he's a coc*suck**. He turned around, nice, bulls****** , "Ah, I'm gonna, I'm sellin' over here and I'm goin' to Florida." "Oh, Florida's alright, huh?" He supposed to sell that place and pay his debts.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Now he comes back, he says to me, "Oh, if I sell it there's only about 20,000 in there." "Yeah? Well then sell it to me, ya coc*suck**,'' I says. I'd like to stick it in his a**.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: I'd like to stick it in his ass. "C'mon, we'll put it on the market. I'll send the guys in on the market price and see what you pull out with."

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Uh, really.

Frank: Why don't you do it?

Fritzy: Nah, I'm gonna. I don't let him bulls*** me. F*** him.

Frank: Don't let him bulls*** ya.

Fritzy: I'm not. I'm, I ain't gonna tolerate him no more.

Frank: If he's like that Freddie, don't let him f***ing bulls*** ya.

Fritzy: He's, that, that's the way he is. You know why?

Frank: Uh-huh?

Fritzy: The home, that's all I, I went by the, by his sister-in law dear departed soul. She said, "They all call me f***ing nuts. I holler. I holler." He took his brother's business, he took his brother-in-law's f***ing business. He took the, all them, them shares. He ate it and he gobbled it all up for himself, this dirty ba**ard

Frank: huh?

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And he ate it all up for himself.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Nice, nice, nice, nice. And then, I don't mind, never mind I don't mind that. And they were, they were getting' their handy pay, ya know?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Before you know it, they reduced it and reduced it. They reduced them to nothin'. He reduced them, ya know? Eh, this is a...

Frank: His brother's family.

Fritzy: What?

Frank: His brother's own family.

Fritzy: Yeah. Yeah. He don't talk to them across the street. He wishes they were never there. Yeah, I'll tell ya, the guy that made him make the f***ing livin'. And I'm the guy that, ya know, I caught him, uh, ya know, doin' the Russki-Tushki there.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Goin' back.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: He made me go, dear departed soul the brother made me go through all the papers, everything. Marone, what I didn't catch on this guy.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: I...

Frank: You caught 'em, huh?

Fritzy: Yeah. I says, "Tony." Wait, wait, wait. I says, "Tony." "I've been to this. I do that." "Tony, you wanna take my advice?" I says, "He's your brother. You'll make a big stink over here and you're gonna look bad yourself. The best you could do is you clip his wings, stay on top of him and from now on you'll watch and do whatever you gotta do, this, this and that. I stopped him from doin' a lot of things. I shouldn't have stopped him. When I think about it, ya know? And he corrected it and all of a sudden, Tony was gettin', like, double or triple what he used to get.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: You know, uh, hey...

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: So if he could rob his brother then when he was alive, imagine after he died.

Fritzy: So whattya been doin'? You been drinkin' or...

Frank: Who's home? Nobody?

Fritzy: Nobody. No.

Frank: We went out last night. Me and Quiet Dom.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Yeah, we painted the town.

Fritzy: You're kidding?

Frank: Yup.

Fritzy: Yeah, where'd youse go?

Frank: We went to Marylou's. Yeah, we ate down there.

Fritzy: Just the two of youse?

Frank: And a few other people.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: That's nice. You had a good time?

Frank: Alright. Then he went back. I didn't go back.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: He must be sayin', "This coc*suck** didn't come back." Heh-heh-heh.

Fritzy: Uh.

Frank: Top of 'em all the time.

Fritzy: Uh, well.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: Ya know.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: whattya gonna do, ya know?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Whattya gonna do, whattya gonna do? In the meantime...

Frank: Hey, ya got your own life. Ya gotta have a little recreation. That f***ing joint, ya can't be in there night and day.

Fritzy: That'll kill ya, California.

Frank: I know it.

Fritzy: They'll f***ing kill ya, I'll tell ya.

Frank: That f***ing dampness in there at three o'clock in the morning.

Fritzy: Ah. I don't know how the f***, eh.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: I feel sorry for ya, I'll tell ya the f***ing truth.

Frank: I ain't putting this winter in there.

Fritzy: I'll tell ya.

Frank: Takin' off, I'm, I'm comin' home.

Fritzy: I feel sorry for ya.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Yeah, I, I, with all my heart. Don't repeat, I don't wanna...

Frank: I'm not a f***ing kid, you know.

Fritzy: I don't wanna f***ing say it, but ah...

Frank: Up every morning until two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning.

Fritzy: Ah.

Frank: That f***ing place is like an iceberg.

Fritzy: Hey.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: If you don't feel good, go home.

Frank: Oh, yeah.

Fritzy: Go home.

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: You understand?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: You know, say, "Hey, I'm gettin' weary, I can't take it. I got the chills."

Frank: Hmm.

Fritzy: "I got the pains. I got the pains. I got the chills." This f***ing way ya get home a little earlier.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: And you get up a little earlier and, and you change your routine a little bit, ya know what I mean?

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: Now, ya know. Look, I, I, how the f***, I don't know how f***ing' long you could uh take it. I'll tell ya the fuckin' truth. Ya gotta take it, ya gotta take it.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: There's nothin' else, uh, to do, but I'm only sayin' that that's kinda f***ing, ya know, eh.

Frank: He's, he's not a, a considerate man, ya know? He's not a considerate man. He's always for himself, ya know, in other words.

Fritzy: I can't f***ing believe, he'll give ya the, he'll give ya, f***ing the shirt off his f***ing back...

Frank: He'll rip ya in another one.

Fritzy: That's right. He'll f***ing rip you to death. You're right, you're right.

Frank: Forget about it. He'll take the good out of everything.

Fritzy: Ah, marone a mi.

Frank: You could do so many things for so many years and then you make one little error and, uh, forget about it.

Fritzy: I know. I know, pal.

Frank: Ya know?

Fritzy: I know all about it, pal.

Frank: There's no lookin' at the good parts, ya know, the good years.

Fritzy: Ah.

Frank: Ya know?

Fritzy: I wish, uh, ya know, I wish I could talk to ya better. I can't talk to ya the way I would wanna talk to ya.

Frank: How's your wife? Alright?

Fritzy: Yeah. Ya know, uh, ya know, up and down, hot and cold. Ya know, like uh...

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Few days okay, everything is fine. All of a sudden, out of nowhere...

Frank: Everybody's cognito. Over there, that guy had a wedding in The Plaza, forget about it.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: That guy, what's his name in Brooklyn? You know who I mean.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: What a f***ing wedding I hear he had.

Fritzy: Oh, you're just startin' to find out?

Frank: Mamma mi.

Fritzy: You're just startin' to find out?

Frank: The governor was there.

Fritzy: You're startin' to find out? Who the f*** is he kiddin'? Do ya, ya know, I gotta tell ya something, not for nothing. The governor was there, the f***ing United States senator was there, the congressmen were there.

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: The, the f***ing guy from Japan was there, the guy from, the ambassador from f***ing Ekinawa, Okinawa was there. You, you make one f***ing turn around the f***ing bend], you understand what I'm sayin'?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Who the f*** are they kiddin', who the f*** are they kiddin'?

Frank: Hmm.

Fritzy: Ya know, you know, really.

Frank: He had a little party.

Fritzy: Well that's, look, ya know.

Frank: Huh. Mmm?

Fritzy: Eh, what can I tell ya, my friend?

Frank: The guy had some blowout, right?

Fritzy: Forget about it. You know, ya know why we didn't get a f***ing invitation?

Frank: Mmm?

Fritzy: Cause he didn't want nobody to see who the f*** he invited.

Frank: No. He didn't, eh...

Fritzy: No?

Frank: Gave ya an invitation.

Fritzy: Who?

Frank: Nah.

Fritzy: Hey, he knew...

Frank: Everybody.

Fritzy: Pal, he knew how to bother me.

Frank: He gave even The Rubber.

Fritzy: Wha?

Frank: He gave The Rubber an invitation.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Yeah. You know the guy that rubs me?

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: He, he, he got one.

Fritzy: He goes out there, to Brooklyn?

Frank: Yeah, he rubs 'em.

Fritzy: Oh, he does?

Frank: He lives out there.

Fritzy: Wha?

Frank: He lives near there, he knows, he's born around there.

Fritzy: Well, The Rubber is one thing. That don't mean nothin', but I'm...

Frank: I'm sayin' he gave him one, and ya know he's gonna tell, uh, who is that this guy everything, huh?

Fritzy: Yeah, well that don't mean nothin'. He gave him one too. He sent one to him.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Ya know?

Frank: Uh-huh?

Fritzy: But, uh, I just, I just...

Frank: You didn't get one, huh?

Fritzy: No. No.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Not that, you know why?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: He asked, he sent somebody personally for a couple of favors which I went out of my f***ing way.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And I done it. I went half a f***ing dozen times, back and forth, back and forth. Now the wedding comes, he don't send a f***ing invitation?

Frank: Hmm.

Fritzy: You know what I'm talkin' about?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Eh, you know something, I happened to be at the fuckin', I happened to be somewhere.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: And I put some money in an envelope and sent it.

Frank: Oh, you did?

Fritzy: Yeah. In other words, I do one better.

Frank: That was nice of you.

Fritzy: Yeah, well, ya know, I turn around, so, so one guy had remarked, "He would've sent everything down."

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: But, uh, ya know. He just...

Frank: The other guy didn't want it.

[A lousy investment leads fiscally conservative Fritzy and associate Harry Dickran to conclude that their money is better served in more legitimate rackets than the stock market. Also, Harry talks about having to can an ungrateful brother-in-law whom he pity-hired at his wife's urging.]

Fritzy: How'd the stocks do?

Harry: About the same. Ya know, there, there's no big, radical movement.

Fritzy: No, huh?

Harry: Nah.

Fritzy: I thought there was some big, major change.

Harry: I thought so, too, with those two articles...

Fritzy: Yeah, right.

Harry: I figured that at least those two would, like, start...

Fritzy: Well, ya know, lemme tell ya about these, they lay and wait, they don't jump on it right away. They wait. The money guys go out and investigate it. They wait, they look, they say, "You know what? It's true. Okay, let's start." Ya know?

Harry: But these articles should've helped. Those articles were good articles.

Fritzy: When did your stock first drop?

Harry: When?

Fritzy: Yeah, the very first time?

Harry: Oh, the day, I guess, the first day that they got all...

Fritzy: What was that in May? When the hell did they get hit?

Harry: Yeah, yeah about May, ya know, May 10th.

Fritzy: Alright, listen to me. You guys have to look to sell out around May 10th or before. Way before, maybe April.

Harry: Oh, yeah.

Fritzy: Ya know why?

Harry: If we knew.

Fritzy: No, 'cause they'll boost, no, I'm talkin' about this comin' up. They'll boost it now, boost it, and around, you'll be told, "Keep it, hold it, hold it..."

Harry: Nah, no more.

Fritzy: "...Keep it." Listen to me. April, we'll make a D-Day, we all go in...

Harry: You know what I did? You know what I had our accountant do?

Fritzy: Wha?

Harry: I had our accountant take a, take a, list of all the stocks, on all, everybody. Pensions, personal...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ...the whole thing. "What was the average price that we bought at?" 'Cause, ya know, some we bought at three...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ... some we bought at nine.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Ya know, so we averaged it out, uh, "You bought it at six."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: So I told him, "Now, the minute this goes, like six and a half, seven. Out."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Ya know, and then the next start. Soon as it comes to that, "Out."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Until we get our money back and that's it.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Then, f*** it, we're out of it.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: And, uh, there's the last time you see me do that.

Fritzy: What a f***ing joke.

Harry: Then I put it into the bank, ya know, I get a nice eight percent, eight and a half percent.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: Guaranteed. I sleep.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: F*** this.

Fritzy: I had it layin' there. Nice. I had it layin' there. I go take it out, I go put it over here. I can't believe what the f*** I done.

Harry: You know something? My, my living, my living, like your living and...

Fritzy: Right.

Harry: ...everything else is my trade.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: I make money in printing.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: I'm not supposed to make money on money, ya know that's, that's not my business.

Fritzy: Ya know, see what you said? That's where they fool everybody.

Harry: Sure.

Fritzy: That's where they fool everybody.

Harry: What the f*** do they know? Hey, ya, they tell me, "You can double your money." I can make a million dollars if I...

Fritzy: A f***ing bum, a bum. Let's, let's put it this way: A bum makin' 30,000 a year is gonna tell you how to invest, how to make...

Harry: Isn't that...

Fritzy: ...a million dollars. Get the hell out of here. Go away.

Harry: And, and...

Fritzy: I could see a guy makin' a coupla million a year tryin' to help me out to make a 100,000 a year.

Harry: But, you know Fritzy, the funny thing, ya know, ya know what the funny thing is? This fuckin' guy was like the expert, the this, he handled the money. F***ing thing goes downhill, right? Man can't get a fuckin' job.

Fritzy: He ain't workin'?

Harry: Well, they had to get it for him.

Fritzy: They hadda get him a job.

Harry: You know, that was me, I would, I, fuck him, I'd give 'em s***. Hey, ya know, ya, ya, ya know how I am in something like this? Ya know, I hired my brother-in-law here three years ago.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: My wife's brother. Guy was old, 60 years old.

Fritzy: Right, right.

Harry: His trade is washed up. His business is out. He always made five, six hundred a week...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ...and now he makes nothing.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: So, ya know, ya know, what am I going to do, kill this guy?

Fritzy: Nah. So you put 'em somewhere, keep 'em alive. Right.

Harry: I bring him in for 500 a week and he knows nothing.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Right? And then he, and he starts comin' in with, "Alright, I don't work overtime. I don't work when it snows."

Fritzy: You're kiddin'?

Harry: "I don't work when it rains." I say, "What the f***?" Now I didn't know about this, They were hiding it from me inside because they didn't want to upset me.

Fritzy: Yeah, huh?

Harry: Yeah. Alright. So, ya know, this went on and on and finally, one day, I said, "You know somethin'?" Ya know, I went back there and they said, "Well, this guy hadda do this because there's noboby in there to make plates." And I says, "Where's John?" That's my brother-in-law. "Oh," he says, "Well he goes home at five. He doesn't work overtime." I says, "Whattya talkin' about?" I says, "We're, we're in a fuckin' spot. You tell him you gotta stay." No, he won't stay. So I bring him in and he says, "Oh, yeah," he says, "those are the conditions you hired me under."

Fritzy: liar.

Harry: I says, "What the f*** are you talkin' about?" I says, I says, "You know, John," I says, "Ya know, you aren't workin', ya know..."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: I says, "My, my wife, your sister, put pressure on me to hire you."

Fritzy: Put pressure on me.

Harry: Oh, Jesus Christ, we had some, we had some argument with that.

Fritzy: Eh.

Harry: "I bring you in here," I says, "I give you $500 a week to train you and then we're gonna give you a raise."

Fritzy: You better watch how you talk about your partner.

Harry: Wha, whattya mean?

Fritzy: What, what you just says, who put pressure on you. You better watch, who put, who, who ya talkin', ya know, he get rid of you and, uh, do the hirin' and firin' over there.

Harry: Oh, I wish he would do it.

Fritzy: He still with ya?

Harry: Hey, you know what I did?

Fritzy: What?

Harry: After he told me, "Nah," he says, "you agreed to that." I says, "John," I said, "I agreed to shit." I said, "If you ever, if you ever gave me those conditions," I said, "you, you never would have been here." So then, you know, he started to get, like, a little out of line. I said, "Hey, John," I says, "look, because you're family," I says, "you either change your ways..."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: "...and you still got a job here."

Fritzy: Yeah, otherwise...

Harry: "If you don't change your ways, Friday's your last day."

Fritzy: That's all.

Harry: He wouldn't change his way.

Fritzy: You got rid of 'em?

Harry: How'd ya like? Yeah.

Fritzy: Sure.

Harry: F*** him. Whattya kiddin' me? I don't take that kind of shit.

Fritzy: In other words, his attitude was, "Ehh."

Harry: F*** him, I hope he's pumpin' gas somewhere, the coc*suck**.

Fritzy: Eh.

Harry: You know what I mean.

Fritzy: I know, I know, they don't, they don't understand.

Harry: He don't do this, he don't do that. Why, why don't you stay home, I'll mail you the check. What the f*** you...

Fritzy: They don't understand, they don't understand. Well, anyhow.

Harry: One of those things.

Fritzy: Alright.

Can you post the link for this?

Sentence from an wiretapped convesation between Lucchese soldier Vincent "Vinny Baldy" Salanardi and other wiseguy about "the life":

"Everything that happens in this crew is not going to be my problem. I am not a boss. I am not a captain. It's not my problem in life. Everything becomes my problem. I ain't the only wiseguy in New York City."

Salanardi was made in 1998 under captain John "Johnny Sideburns" Cerrella's Brooklyn crew.



On Jan. 15, 2004, the wiretapped conversation between Carmelo Bruzzese and Vito Rizzuto about personal family affairs and an upcoming transaction involving an unspecified exchange.

“I have it here in Toronto . . . is everything ready, if someone from there comes here,” Bruzzese tells Rizzuto just before Bruzzese is scheduled to come to Ontario.

“There is no problem,” Rizzuto assures him.

But there was a problem.

Rizzuto was arrested five days later in his home in Montreal as part of an FBI-led sweep of the Bonanno crime family that would eventually see him sentenced to 10 years in U.S. prison for his role in a murder.

Within hours of Rizzuto’s detention, his top lieutenant, Francesco Arcadi, called Bruzzese, according to the wiretap transcripts.

“It’s really honestly bad news,” Bruzzese responds. “I hope that everything will be resolved shortly.”

sources: http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Vincent_Salanardi

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/393148/...-man-in-canada/

Wiretapped conversation between Corky Vastola,Sam Decavalcante and Joe Zicarelli about every day problems and combinations...

Corky:I also sad this Sam,if this turns out to be a score,we shoot an end back here.

Sam:Wait a min i want to talk about money first so theres no misunderstanding.What end do you feel Joe should get?

Corky:25 per cent for here.Because theres two guys and myself ova there.Thats three of us.To Joe:So youre the fourth guy.

Sam:Do you think that right?To forget me?

Corky:Forget you?Well thats what i told Mike,but yeah.Lets make it 5.Ill take 20 per cent.

Joe:Me too.

Sam:Alright Joe,youre satisfied with 20 per cent?

Joe:Yeah im satisfied.

Sam:Now,how about the dues there?Where do the dues come in now?

Joe:I use the dues for his books,stationery,and to set him all up.

Corky:What are the dues a mounth.

Joe:Well you can make yours 5$,but i only have four here.

Corky:And what is the initiation fee?Ah but im goin to waive the fee to set up the shop.

Joe:Right.Than you could charge 25$,50$ or 75$-whatever you want.Why not 10 not and anybody that comes in after 25?

Corky:Yeah.All right.

Sam:well how you gonna make a score if youre cheap?

Corky:Well im goin to make the score this way.When i sit down with the boss(management),I tell him how much its gonna cost him in welfare,hospitalization and all that.Say a plant with 250 people ,will cost hom 4000$ a mounth-just for hospitalization.So altogether I make a package out of it.Ill say"Its gonna cost 100.000$ a year.Lets cut it in half and forget about it."And walk away.I show him first what its gonna cost-than how much im gonna save him by walking away.

source: http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%...9/Item%2001.pdf

I will once I've done all of the conversations, It would seem pointless posting the link because then I wouldn't have to post it on here.

[Frank's mother has died and Fritzy consoles his pal as only he can. First, he complains that his own mom is driving him crazy. He follows with the obligatory rant about the missus. Then the guys laugh about the kooky antics of Genovese boss Vincent "Chin" Gigante, who's been noshing with "The Bloomer" at the Carnegie Deli. Oh, and we don't know if those nuns still hustle the West Side piers]

Frank: Hello?

Fritzy: Mr. Frank.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: How are ya, Mr. Frank? How do you feel?

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: How do you feel?

Frank: Alright.

Fritzy: I woke you up?

Frank: I was sleepin'.

Fritzy: Two o'clock in the afternoon.

Frank: I went to bed this mornin', 5:30.

Fritzy: The, the vampire had you out?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Marone a mi.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Well, what time ya...

Frank: I'll sleep a couple of hours. Tired.

Fritzy: I'll hang up, I won't bother you.

Frank: How you doin'?

Fritzy: I figured I'd call ya up, see how you're feeling, you know, ya, ya, you know, I didn't talk to you since, uh, I last saw ya, you know?

Frank: How do you feel?

Fritzy: I'm alright, my mother, you know, she's, ah, f***ing headaches.

Frank: What's the matter?

Fritzy: Ah, she's up and down. She's, you know, if I, if I leave her alone she's very confused, ya know? She talks, but when she comes to doin' things, she's very confused. She gets mis, dis, you know, disoriented so I, you gotta put her back on the track. So somebody's gotta be there. I'm f***ing goin' crazy. Back, forth, back, forth, forth, back.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: But, uh, how you feel?

Frank: Alright, Freddie.

Fritzy: Alright, I don't, you know, just felt bad for ya, you know what I mean?

Frank: Whattya gonna do?

Fritzy: I know, I know. Whattya gonna do? Eh, now, now all little memories start racing through your head.

Frank: It's all over now.

Fritzy: I know.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: I know. ya know?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: They say, "They broke the chain." Boom. You know that?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: The chain, that's how the f***in' chain breaks.

Frank: Everybody alright?

Fritzy: My, eh, you know, my wife, eh. Ah, healthwise, they're fine.

Frank: She botherin' ya?

Fritzy: Oh yeah. Forget about it, Frankie.

Frank: She still the same?

Fritzy: Forget about it. She talks to me, "Are you and Gail, Gail and you...", like we're, like we're a couple. I mean, you know, I mean, like you wanna knock her in the f***ing head when she talks, you know? "Well you and Gail and...Gail and you." Imagine this? Imagine this f***ing woman.

Frank: Marone, huh?

Fritzy: Imagine this? I mean, instead of sayin', you know, "That other one," or something like that, "that f***ing c*n*," or this or whatever. "Gail and you. You and Gail." Like whatta, whatta we a pair I told her or somethin'? Alright?

Fritzy: Alright? She f***ing knows how to gnaw at you.

Frank: You still cookin'?

Fritzy: No, I quit.

Frank: You gave it up?

Fritzy: Yep. I f***ing quit.

Frank: You were makin' 'em too strong.

Fritzy: Ah, fuck it. She's gotta come in, she's, oh, what f***ing problems I had. I had a rib roast upstairs, right?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: So I turn around, I figured she's gonna make it.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And, you know, with all of us. She turns a, hey, Buddy's comin' in here. He's bringin' me some stuff. Bring it in. See what he's got. And, uh, she goes, I says, "Why'd ya make the rib, the rib roast? Geez, I, you know, I woulda liked to, you know, why didn't tell me you were gonna make it." "Oh yeah, well I gotta tell you when I wanna eat?" Da this and that, whatnot, "Uh, the other one, how many ribs did you give her with the rib roast with the roast? Now you're gonna go bim, buh-bum, buh-bum." Imagine this? The roast. With two f***ing words I said. Wait, the door's open. Wait, I gotta open up the door, just a minute...Hello?

Frank: Yeah, Freddie.

Fritzy: Alright, eh, go back to bed. I don't wanna, alright? Go back to sleep, pal.

Frank: No, that's alright.

Fritzy: I woke you up. I didn't know, I figured two o'clock you're up.

Frank: Helen was here.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: She just left.

Fritzy: And?

Frank: She wanted me to get up. I says, "Get out. Leave me alone, huh."

Fritzy: No kiddin'? So in other words, she bothered you too.

Frank: She came...

Fritzy: Ah, it looks like everybody's botherin' you, Cal.

Frank: Nah, that's alright.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: The nun called me up.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: She was on her way to the, for the funeral.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: She got stuck in traffic 'til 12 o'clock.

Fritzy: Whattya mean?

Frank: Comin' here, she got stuck.

Fritzy: Oh yeah?

Frank: Yeah. She says, I says, "Where are you at now?"

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: She says, "I'm on Pier 36."

Fritzy: What the hell's she doin' there?

Frank: Hustlin'.

Fritzy: Oh yeah? She goes with the can?

Frank: She goes there, they take her with the car and they hustle.

Fritzy: Oh yeah? Her and the other one, huh?

Frank: They beg. That's their order.

Fritzy: Oh, yeah?

Frank: That's how I met her, from the piers.

Fritzy: Oh. And they wind up with a, a, a C-note apiece, they made.

Frank: Oh, you shoulda heard 'em.

Fritzy: Wha?

Frank: She wants, uh, your name and address. I says, "No, send it to me, don't worry about it."

Fritzy: Marone, she wants a, 'cause she figures she's got a live wire here.

Frank: Nah, she's gonna send you something.

Fritzy: Yeah? Ah, well that was for your mother. I, I really, I...

Frank: You know how she is.

Fritzy: You know. They used to go see your mother?

Frank: Go see her? Forget about it.

Fritzy: Huh?

Frank: Forget about it. She used to feed her, everything.

Fritzy: See, that's why I did that, you know, I knew that, uh, they were a good help to her 'cause you used to tell me, you know what I mean? You told me...

Frank: Money every time.

Fritzy: Yeah, that's good. That's alright. Yeah. The Jaw gave her a C-note too, you know?

Frank: We send her to Italy.

Fritzy: What?

Frank: We send her to Italy.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: My brother and I.

Fritzy: Yeah, but The Jaw, The Jaw gave her a C-note.

Frank: Yeah, I know.

Fritzy: Yeah, he, he, ah, he parted.

Fritzy: Alright. Give everybody a kiss.

Frank: Love is in the air.

Fritzy: Yeah? Let me ask you something. The Bloomer is back? I thought The Bloomer went away?

Frank: She's back.

Fritzy: Oh, mamma mi. He's got, he must, that must be must be the 5 o'clock in the mornin' appointment.

Frank: Picks her up at 3 o'clock in the mornin'.

Fritzy: Mamma mi.

Frank: Then we went to the Carnegie.

Fritzy: Marone.

Frank: He ate a turkey sandwich.

Fritzy: Marone. Well, he's loosenin' up. He's loosening up anyhow. Ah, he looks happy, but. He looks happy. I dunno, maybe it's doing him some good. Huh?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Am I right?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: I'll tell ya, ya know, he needed that little change maybe. So don't pick on me when I fool around.

Frank: Huh?

Frank: He wanted to walk, he hadda walk on Broadway...

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Heart trails, you know?

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: He thinks the sun was shining.

Fritzy: Yeah? Eh, look, too bad you're out so late but, that's the only thing.

Frank: Ah, this is Dracula.

Fritzy: I know, I know. It's no doubt. You know why? He feels safer, you, ya gotta understand. There's peace and quiet at that hour. I think that means a lot to him.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: You know what I mean? I understand. I know what he, I, I know what he...

Frank: There's nobody to spy...

Fritzy: That's what I mean. He feels, uh, free. He's free at that hour.

Frank: Yeah. He's got the cape, you gotta get him the cape with the hat and everything.

Fritzy: Yeah, I know.

Damn man!you got whole lists of transcripts from these guys!Was it youre wire?!?Did you tapped thouse phones?!?!?

Haha! Only 45 wiretaps, I think i've told about 4 or 5.

45 wiretaps?!?!?damn man youve been busy

http://www.wmob.com/

figured id share the site where those transcripts are in in case people were interested, King I am not intending to derail the thread.

Thank you for sharing the site, very interesting.



I'm not sure if that's Fratianno, doesen't sound like him.

The crew had their own unique ways of dealing with dead-beat gamblers. The funeral home tactic was just one method. In the case of Steve Hospodar, a diminutive, 65-year-old gambler who fell seriously behind in his payments, Solly DeLaurentis and his partner and fellow underboss, Lou Marino of Palos Heights, decided to really put the fear of God into him.

What follows is a portion of a tape-recorded conversation at a south suburban restaurant between Lou Marino and the indebted Hospodar concerning the monies due the outfit. One can readily see that Marino is not a Shakespearean scholar – but is a man that can emphatically make his point. The transcript of the following conversation was introduced into evidence at the Infelise racketeering and extortion trial in a federal court.

Marino: You will find some fuckin' money.

Hospodar: I'm gonna try. I…

Marino: You will find some fuckin' money…

Hospodar: Like I say, I'm gonna try.

Marino: You motherfucker.

Hospodar: I'm gonna try.

Marino: You will find money.

Hospodar: Well, we'll see what happens. I, I'll make every…

Marino: Hey, I ain't seein'…

Hospodar: Every effort…

Marino: what happens!

Hospodar: I'll make every effort!

Marino: I ain't seein' what happens, you make a date you motherfucker, you cannot fulfill, you can't live with it. You will fuckin' get me money today.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: I give a fuck where you get it.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: You get me money. Go steal the motherfucker!

Hospodar: I'll have to.

Marino: You, I don't give a fuck! If I was in that spot that's what the fuck I'd be doin'! You just go fuck and do it, Steve, the, the game's over, Steve. I'll tell ya'.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: Right now.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: You'll fuckin' be here tonight. Here what I'm tellin' you, Steve?

Hospodar: Okay.

Marino: You fuckin' be here. What time?

Hospodar: You said between six, six-thirty.

Marino: All right. I wanna make it a right fuckin' time. I don't be…

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: fuckin' sitting in this joint.

According to the testimony given by a 38-year-old government informant, one Sam Joseph Malatia, at the racketeering trial, DeLaurentis then led Hospodar into the men's room and "messed him up a little." Solly "D" was suspicious that Hospodar was wearing a wire. He was, as it turned out, but they didn't find it. "When he came out, his (Steve's) wig was wet. Sol had thrown the wig into the toilet and put it back on his head." Lou Marino and Solly "D" were good at their jobs and so was the entire street crew, as we shall see.

source: http://www.ipsn.org/lolli1.html

This is a angry outburst by now jailed mobster Solly DeLaurentis in a telephone conversation with gambler-turned- government informer William "B.J." Jahoda:
"Don't refer to me as the boss or f---ing you're in
charge, you're the chief. Don't tell me that!"
DeLaurentis did not want Jahoda referring to him as a "boss" on a unsecured telephone line that could be -- and was -- tapped by the FBI.

Dapper Don - That was very pointless on sharing that when I was going to at the end, no point on me posting all of them on here when they are on another website.

It is Fratianno.

It saves us from waiting for you to post them all. Thanks for the link

If you didn't notice CAM. I'm at war with Toodoped and I need wiretaps!

youre loosin man...and time is runnin out...

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,
- againstANTHONY ROMANELLO,
also known as "Rom,"
Defendant.
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GLASSER, United States District Judge:
1'".

The intercepted conversations of Cafaro which are sought to be introduced in
evidence are set out in full:
The March 22, 2000 conversation:
Thomas Cafaro = Cafaro; Michael D'Urso = CW


CW: Let's just hope your friend don't leave, gonna be there.
CAFARO: Me, I believe, it's his if he wants it. And that's how 1-
CW: He might not want it. But then again you know what, he's not gonna
turn away because he ain't gonna subject himself to have listen to
all of these fuckin' idiots - after what he knows what's right and
wrong.
CAFARO: Well - then he may leave somebody there and talk to them.
CW: Right.
CAFARO: Like everybody else did.
CW: He can't leave his guys.
CAFARO: No.
CW: We'd all be running for the hills. [Pause]. See I didn't think there
was any of that.
CAFARO: I can't believe they didn't make, when he had his, when he
, It should be noted that the indictment in this RA alleges that the parties agreed,
rather than conspired to extort John Doe #2.
2 went in for the surgery and when he had the heat, I'm
surprised they didn't pull him out then.
cw: Who's gonna pull him out? Who's gonna pull him?
CAFARO: [U/I]
CW: You gotta be around to actually do something like that, I mean? You
know what's gonna happen?
CAFARO: How'd they put him in?
CW: What? You don't think your friend put him there?
CAFARO: Well, so they send him word. [U/I] put somebody else, who
do you want?
CW: Yeah who do you want? Who's gonna take it? Who's gonna take it?
CAFARO: Somebody will do him a favor if they ask him.
cw: Chuck don't want it.
CAFARO: If the other guy asked him.
CW: You know fuckin' Dom don't want it.
CAFARO: No - but I said, uh.
cw: Ernie will take it.
CAFARO: Yeah. What do you call it?
CW: He wouldn't be bad there.
CAFARO: NoCW: from what I hear about him.
CAFARO: You know who would have been good too, but he don't want
it? Is Tony from Corona.
cw: Oh, he don't want it either?
CAFARO: Nah. He has a ton of money.
3 CW: Uh, forget it. [U II] close with Mickey all these years. They use
excuses. I gotta take care of Mickey, I gotta do this.
CAFARO: He would have been good.
CW: You know him good?
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: He's respected.
CAFARO: Patty knows him well.
CW: He's acting right now?
CAFARO: Him? No. He walked. He gave everything up.
cw: He's still a skipper, huh?
CAFARO: He gave, he gave that up.
CW: Who the fuck do they?
CAFARO: They got his guy out there. Tommy Z's cousin stays with him.
CW: Rom?
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: They put Rom there?
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: Corne on?
CAFARO: That's what I heard.
cw: He finished [UjI]
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: [UjI]
CAFARO: Well, yeah, exactly. But still, you know.
4 CW: Listen, everybody uses scapegoats, let's be realistic. But I don't
agree with that, I gotta tell you the truth. I mean it works, but I
don't agree with it.
CAFARO: Let me tell you something. He gave up all of his business. He
gave up his bookmaking, shylocking, everything. He gave it to Rom.
He gave it to him.
CW: Really?
CAFARO: He's so wealthy, real estate wise. He's got buildings; he's got
property; he's got the restaurant. What the fuck does he need? And
he's smart.
cw: You can't forget how you got it.
CAFARO: Well, I'm sure he does what he has to do for the old timers.
CW: Well, take a guy like that. Don't they take that as an insult that he
doesn't want it? If you're needed, you're needed.
CAFARO: You don't know how he told him. We don't know what he
told him. He may have had a legitimate you know?
CW: Sometimes you've gotta help this thing. Not everyone can run away
from it. You gonna run away from it then hang your thing up and
take it on the hop.
CAFARO: What I'm saying is, he may have said, I've got to do certain
things, you know?
CAFARO: You wanna know something?
CW: [U/I] everything
CAFARO: Smart guys, you don't want them taking that position
because eventually they get, they go and what are you gonna have?
You see what's happening in all the other crews. They got amateurs.
CW: Yup. People gotta stay behind the scenes a little bit.
CAFARO: Oh, without a doubt. That's why all those years, nobody knew
who Ben was. See, nobody knew who he was.
CW: No, huh.
5 CAFARO: Nobody.
CW: See Joe, Joe never wanted it.
CAFARO: Yeah?
CW: He said, I've got everyone's ear, what do I need it for?
CAFARO: Well, that's the same thing I'm saying. What do I need
anything for? I just hang out with our friends.
CAFARO: Our friend, he's gonna look out for me.
CW: No doubt about it.
* * *
The June 14, 2000 conversation:
Thomas Cafaro = Cafaro; Michael D'Urso = CW
CAFARO: I used to laugh because there's a guy Joe CIA) construction.
He was very close to CUI). He used to tell him look you got this
business, let's put Tommy there. CUI) he used to tell him, no,
Tommy's alright he's got enough. I used to tell him, Pal, Something
I know I'm doing, you know, that maybe I forgot?
CW: Then what'd he say?
CAFARO: No, nothing. He said, "Don't worry about it." And that was it.
You know, then he got pinched. The kid Nicky, that young kid. Ton
of fucking money. Me and the Old Timer, that I was with that night,
we shake our heads. We can't believe. He says all these pieces of
shit, CUI) this guy the money.
CW: It's not good. People start saying, what the fuck, did they need it
for?
CAFARO: Well, now hopefully, you know, when he comes homes we'll
get a couple of things going. Who knows?
CW: Does the old timer [ChuckyTuzzo] down there see him? Does he go
see him at all?
CAFARO: No he can't, he can't go see him. He would love to. Think
that's why. I vote for him.
6 CW: Whose he answer to? Does he go see Tony too?
CAFARO: No, they see him.
CW: They see him?
CAFARO: No. They go see him, you know. He could have been there.
He turned it down.
CW: He don't look like he, he wanted it anyway.
CAFARO: They wanted him for a while. They've been on... He
used to be around Tony all the time, he's on a lot of tapes with Tony.
cw: He's no flashy guy either.
CAFARO: He used to be some fucking, you know-dapper
CW: Oh
CAFARO: He used to be, remember the old man Mickey, Generoso,
Mickey Dimino?
CW: No.
CAFARO: That was the meeting with him. They used to come every day.
I used to tell them, you look like the Bobsey twins.
CW: He's got cancer too.
CAFARO: You know, he stays behind the scenes. You know, tries to
help him out. He was coaching him for a while, you know. If he
would have listened, if Farby would have listened to him, he would
never had a problem.
CW: With what?
CAFARO: When he was going on meets and stuff, they were gonna set
it up. We'll bring you. My guys will bring you. Three, four cars. One
guy picked him up, bring him to another spot. You know, that's how
that guy is. When you go to a meeting, you know, you gotta 7:00
appointment. They start out three in the afternoon.
CW: Whose this?
7 CAFARO: The old timer.
CW: Yeah.
CAFARO: Start out three in the afternoon. One guy picks him up, brings him
here. He stays there. Then another guy takes him here. By the time he get's
over there, he went from here to here to here to here to there. By then, they
got to know if somebody's - you know. That's how he is. I never call him.
We never talk to each other on the phone. I left him that night. He knows
the next month I'll see him this date, at this time. If I'm not there,
something's wrong.
CW: Well what if you got an emergency?
CAFARO: If I got one? Well, I call somebody. CUI) He's got no more
beeper.
CW: Got a phone?
CAFARO:
him.
He's a hundred percent for our friend. A million percent for
[PAUSE]
CW: He's just a skipper right? He used to be a skipper right?
CAFARO: He's got a good .... They've got a good bunch of guys. They've
got a solid ...
CW: Who?
CAFARO: The old timer. He's got Tough Tony Corona.
CW: He's got em?
CAFARO: Rom
CAFARO: Yeah. They, you know. They're all with him. They've got Rom.
They got Tough Tony, they got this kid Mikey the Blonde.
CW: Good guys?
CAFARO: Oh yea, They're smart. CUI)
CAFARO: I know Rom like that.
8 cw: Rom's alright.
CAFARO: I know him like that. I met him twice.
CW: He's at the fucking track everyday ..
CAFARO: Tony came home from prison, wanted nothing to do with
it anymore. He gave everything away. CUI) Property.
CW: Who does?
CAFARO: Tony
CW: Rom, Rom. He's a friendly guy, you know. He's just, he's not as polished as Tony is.
CAFARO: No. No, Can't compare them. Night and day, night and day.
CAFARO: See Tommy Z. You met Tommy Z, right? Tommy LaRusso's
cousin.
CW: Right
CAFARO: That's how I met Tommy Z. I met him down at the EI
Dorado.
CW: Does Rom know Patty?
CAFARO: Patty used to go out there when my father was around. My
father was close to him. Every Friday night, he used to go out.
CW: They must have just straightened Rom out the last ....
CAFARO: No, for years.
CW: Tony needed that.
CAFARO: He could have had it.
CW: You can't fucking ...
CAFARO: He could have had it. He didn't want it.
CAFARO: He turned it down.
CW: Know what's gonna happen, pretty soon, they're gonna start telling
9 people you have to take it. Or otherwise ...
CAFARO: Usually no one refuses it. Smart people refuse,
CW: You know what I mean?
CAFARO: Tony. They get along good. He does a lot for him.
Helps him with his case. Helping him out.
CW: Tony's got a lot of CUI) .
CAFARO: He loves that restaurant - I mean he really works there.
cw: OhYeah.
CAFARO: He fucking walks around. We were in there one night. He
walked by the table. I mean, You know, he came to sit with us later
on. Every fucking waiter, he kicked them in the leg because there
was a chair backed up against the wall, and it was scratching the
thing. He buys a certain kind of meat, it's gotta be cut a certain way.

http://ia600808.us.archive.org/19/items/gov.uscourts.nyed.311902/gov.uscourts.nyed.311902.71.0.pdf

this was posted by sharpieone on the other side

It´s a good read...if you know what the hell they are talking about! One would really need to have the whole picture before understanding these wire taps transcripts. I guess they can be interpreted in all kinds of ways which is why the government gladly uses these in front of a jury. This transcript, the one posted, is not intellectually stimulating. But I assume the two men are talking about guys who doesen´t want the top job. The converasation eventually touches upon Tony Federici who also didn´t want the job and apparently gave up his operations to Tony Rom.

"CAFARO: Let me tell you something. He gave up all of his business. He gave up his bookmaking, shylocking, everything. He gave it to Rom. He gave it to him.
CW: Really?
CAFARO: He's so wealthy, real estate wise. He's got buildings; he's got property; he's got the restaurant. What the fuck does he need? And he's smart."

"CAFARO: Smart guys, you don't want them taking that position
because eventually they get, they go and what are you gonna have?
You see what's happening in all the other crews. They got amateurs.
CW: Yup. People gotta stay behind the scenes a little bit.
CAFARO: Oh, without a doubt. That's why all those years, nobody knew who Ben was. See, nobody knew who he was.
CW: No, huh.
CAFARO: Nobody."

- This "Ben", has to be a reference to Philip Lombardo who was nicknamed "Benny Squint; Benny Turpin", the Genovese leader back in the 1970s who totally flew under the feds´ radar.

^^^you are absolutely right Hairy

Came across this post. Very good wiretap stuff here.

What websites or where can I find and listen to commission case wire taps like the jaguar bug with Tony Ducks.