Top Family

who would you have ... boss, underboss, consigliere, 3 top captains, dont matter if there dead lol (most are) -

Boss - Tony Accardo
Underboss - Carlo Gambino
Consigliere - Lucky Luciano
Capo - Albert Anastasia
Capo - Neil Dellacroce
Capo - Carmine Galante

I would also have Louis Buchalter, Jimmy "the Gent" Burke and Harry "Pittsburgh Phil" Strauss..un-made of course


Now thats a crime family you do NOT fuck with...

Boss: J Geoff
Underboss: SC
Consigliere: Turnbull
Streetboss: Don Cardi
Caporegime: pizzaboy
Enforcer: Carmela

That's all you need to know here.

Boss: Carlo Gambino
Underboss: Vincent Gigante
Consigliere: Frank Costello
Capo: Aniello Dellacroce
Capo: John Gotti
Capo: Anthony Corallo
Capo: Joe Massino
Capo: Paul Castellano
Enforcer: Benjamin Siegel

Boss: Totò Riina
Underboss: Carmine Galante
Consigliere: Al Capone
Acting boss: Nicky Scarfo
Capo: Roy DeMeo
Capo: Anthony “Gaspipe” Casso
Capo: Tommy “Karate” Pitera
Capo: Filippo Marchese (I am not sure if this one is known in the USA, but in Italy he is known as one of the most violent and psychopatic killers)

I think this would be the most violent, psychopathic and incapable of doing anything rational crime family of all ages!

I don't think Galante would do well in a subservent Capo role unless he was running his own crew a few towns over and kicking up what he felt comfortable with. I'd much prefer the distance.

I like the idea of Accardo being the boss, Aiuppa too after I watched Casino last night

i'm sure galante would be like a pussy cat with Joe batters in charge ... nobody fucks with Accardo (if ya shoot him in a dream you better wake up and apologize)... .. I loved when Galante was asked if he was worried that he might be killed by his enemies - he just smiled and said "nobody will ever kill me, they wouldn't dare", I think you were mistaken Carmine my friend.. a little carried away with the mobster quotes ... fuck it I'll say another of my favorites ... Lefty Guns "A little violence never hurt anyone"

Those are the 3 guys I'd have in the administration but Luciano would be boss, Gambino underboss, and Accardo consigliere.

Why Luciano as boss; historical thing?

Strange only "ovation32" mentioned Frank Costello,i would put him as consigliere or even underboss.

Boss - Lucky Luciano
Underboss - Meyer Lansky
Consigliere - Arnold Rothstein/Johnny Torrio/Nicholas Morello
Capo - Tommy Lucchese
Capo - Tony Accardo
Capo - Paul Ricca
Capo - Carlo Gambino
Enforcer - Nails Morton
Fixer - Frank Costello

BOSS: John Gotti Jr
UNDERBOSS: Joey Merlino
CONSIGLIERE: Angelo Ruggiero

Boss: Nicky Scarfo
Underboss: Anthony Casso
Consigliere: Roy DeMeo

lol

That family would average 100 murders a year!

yep lmaooooo

Boss: Luciano
Underboss: Lucchese
Consigliere: Accardo
Capo: Anthony Spero
Capo: Sonny Franzese
Capo: Carlo Gambino
Capo: Chin Gigante

Boss - Lucky Luciano
Underboss - Carlo Gambino
Consigliere - Frank Costello
Capo - Tony Accardo
Capo - Anthony Corrallo
Capo - Chin Gigante
Capo - Tommy Lucchese

These guys, as a team would inflict some serious damage.

I feel sorry for whomever crosses THIS family!

that is a bad position .. Roy as Consigliere ..you can imagine the kind of conversation going on

Nicky - "what ya think we should do with this guy that owes us some money"...

Roy - "shoot him in the fuckin head - take him to fountain ave"

lmaooooooo

Boss: Nicky Scarfo
Underboss: Anthony Casso
Consigliere: Roy DeMeo
Capo : Sam DeStefano

Now its 125 murders a year~

possibly more.... there would not be too much forgiveness going on .. each of them guys loved killing people..

hahahaha

I still think they are quite harmless compared to Totò Riina - that guy was more like a terrorist than a mafioso - he had hundreds of people killed, some of his capos murdered even children.

That should be a rule.. well, a commandment .. Thou shall not fuck with Toto Riina..or Leoluca Bagarella or Matteo Messina Denaro or Bernardo Provenzano - or any of them guys, and if you do and you aint already dead, then shoot yourself and save yourself the hassle

Boss: Tony Accardo
Underboss: Vincent Gigante
Consiglieri: Fat Tony Salerno
Capo: Joe Massino
Capo: Antonio "Ducks" Corallo
Capo: Joe Ligambi

Soldier: Nicky Crow Caramandi
Soldier: Michael Franzese
Soldier: Gaspipe Casso
Soldier: Neil Dellacroce
Hitman: Roy DeMeo and his crew.

The other example I made was the most violent crime family possible, while this one I think would be the least violent:

Boss: Angelo Bruno
Underboss: Harry Riccobene
Consigliere: Joe Colombo
Capo: Carlo Caputo (the boss from Madison)
Capo: Angelo Marino (the boss from San Jose; this one even had money extorted from him as if he weren’t a mafioso at all)
Capo: Willie Moretti (Frank Costello’s cousin)

Riccobene? I could agree with the others

I put him there because he didn't manage to kill anybody during the war with Scarfo apart from Monte and even that was a sort of self-defense. And I also find his physical appearance very funny, he just doesn't look like a gangster, but like a dwarf Santa Claus , even though I know appearances may be deceiving.

Hilarious

Boss: Charles H. Gotti
Underboss: Paulie DiMarco
Consig: Hector Pagan

lmao .. I first saw him in a interview and thought OK this fella is talking the talk..he's survived a few attempts on his life..but then I saw footage of him in court I ain't seen a gangster so small.. my kid could kick his ass

Boss- Angelo Bruno

Underboss- Sal Testa

Consigliere- Joe Ligambi

make money dont make headlines

Dont make headlines? With Testa? I dont think so
Put Accardo on that list and there you go.

...guess you didn't read the bit about him taking a few shots while in a phonebooth, wrestling the gun out the hands of a guy 50 years younger and sending the hit team all running during a murder attempt. There's a reason he was made at 17. All due respect, he'd probably come down the chimney and kick your kids ass. Then possibly eat some cookies. Im not sure.

Author Thom L. Jones did a great piece on him for Gangsters Inc a while back; http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-trouble-with-harry

i yearn for the good old days when GA used to say "make money, dont make headlines" that about Ligambi during his Mob Talks

Good old days? Its still lhis catch all catch phrase. He basically says it a least once in every video, regardless of who he's talking about. He could write a book anonymously, call it "Make Money, Not Headlines", and we'd all know who it was as soon as we saw it.

i also miss those surveillance shots of ligambi yelling at Bent Finger Lou

if only Uncle Joe knew then what we know now...

True, true. So true.

Sal Testa was an old school guy and Loyal guy. Scarfo said kill and Testa did. Sal Testa was a born leader and would have been a great boss at an early age.

Boss- Lucky Luciano
Underboss- Carlo Gambino
Consigliere- Tony Accardo
Capo- Neil Dellacroce
Capo- Anthony Casso
Capo- Joe Massino
Capo- Vincent Gigante

Something pretty fucking gay about a bunch of mafia fan boys making an "all-star" mob family chart....

Nah Philly, just guys the other posters would think make an ideal family. Like a fantasy team

Thats what he said; pretty gay.

Revering a mobster like all the others who made a fantasy team, that's pretty fan boyish



I didn't know Anastasia says that regularly. That's pretty fan boyish of you do know that he says or does something that on a regular basis.

I don't see anything "gay" about this topic.. I actually enjoyed to see what you all thought ...

and I would not call myself a "mafia fan boy".. were all men in here buddy .. I'd say there are something "pretty fucking gay" about your post..

Take the gay stuff off the boards.

I don't consider myself a "mafia fan boy" either. I am more interested in the fight against the mafia rather than in the mafia itself. And I surely don't admire them. This topic is just a game, I think, what's wrong about it?

And not to mention that a topic like this was already made.

personally I don't know what wrong with this topic.. but hey wtf do I care.. and since it's apparently already been posted ..my bad, I wont post any more "gay" topics

Nope. No reverence. Fact. Even the cookie part (citation needed) He was a homicidal douchebag like every other mobster too.


^^^misses the point

You should probably actually read and watch more of his investigative journalism work. Keep puttin in the work friend!!

Eh, I still think Riccobene was a stand up guy.
So he did really eat cookies left your for your Santa?



I'm not fan boyish enough to watch more of his investigative journalism, mob or non OC related.

Yes. Cookies left your for your santa. Exactly.

You wins at grammars! Prize is your cookies for your santa!



But "fan boyish" enough to cry butthurt over "fantasy teams"? I get it.

Whatevs, Im just breaking your balls now. I dont really care if you guys want to make your "All Star Fantasy Mob Leagues", I was just agreeing with Philly. Keep putting in the work!!

You're a stand up guy Mickey

JoeBatters was never the boss of the Chicago Outfit, he was the mediator for Joey "O'Brien" Aiuppa (the single wealthiest Chicago boss of all-time) & Jackie 'The Lackey' Cerone.

Incredible that people to this day still think that JoeBatters was the boss of the Chicago Outfit. Just goes to show you why the Outfit outlasts all.

Oh & as far as bosses go, Moe Giancana was the greatest American gangster of all-time, bar none.

I don´t get your posts, BridgeportVet.

Accardo WAS the outfit boss in the 1940s and 1950s
And Giancana, the greatest gangster of all time?
Let´s not get carried away here...

He was not. Paul Ricca ran the Outfit during that time period, with Accardo & in place as underbosses. This proved to be unsuccessful & it was decided that Giancana would take the reigns. After Giancana, Joey 'O'Brien' Aiuppa abruptly took hold of the Outfit, placing Jackie Cerone & Joe B. as consigliere & underboss, respectfully. So no, Joe Batters was never the boss of the outfit, always used as a smokescreen & a mediator, and that's the way Ricca/Aiuppa wanted it, they were the most long-term successful Outfit bosses because no one knew their names, and they stayed out of court (until the whole Vegas thing when Aiuppa & Cerone went down). Tony Accardo didn't mind going down in history as a "top boss", even though anyone with any real Outfit knowledge will laugh at the notion.

I'm new to this website, the general crowd seems to be folks with mainly knowledge of the East Coast factions. I've read a bunch of false Outfit trivia during the short time that I've been a member.

And yes, Moe Giancana was absolutely, positively the greatest American gangster that ever put on a fuckin fedora. He was everything a gangster should be & more: completely bulletproof, mingled with celebrities & ultra-powerful figures, walked it, talked it, and the Outfit was more profitable & powerful than it had ever been (and ever has been) during his reign.

I dont think so.. Giancana spoke about his connection with CIA.. A real gangster keep his mouth shut.. It's a great gangster but not the Greatest..

Accardo was the boss and to say he was never boss is ludicrous, and as far as Giancana being bulletproof - I gotta laugh at that - he was shot seven fucking times, I do consider myself to have some "real" outfit knowledge and I think you got a little mixed up buddy ... where do you get your information from?

Right.
Giancana held the top spot for only 8 years, just before being chased out of Chicago by his peers. Does that make him the all time greatest gangster?
Then what about Joe Profaci who ruled for 35 years? Or Magaddino for over 40 years? Or Bonanno for close to 40 years etc...?

Voices in his head?

don't worry this guy is just a troll and giving people a hard time....

In early 1960's, there is an FBI audio recording of high ranking Genovese saying that Ricca still had to approve decisions. This is while Giancana was acting boss. I'm not sure if this was the case when Accardo was boss though.

Anthony Accardo was NEVER the boss of the Chicago Outfit. Anyone with real knowledge on them knows this, it's just common knowledge.

Where do you goons get your Outfit info from? lol only folks that watch YouTube & Outfit documentaries believe the incredibly effective deception that Accardo was ever boss. He was consigliere & front boss all his life, and he was content with that position.

Seriously, this is supposed to be a forum about real life LCN knowledge & I have only seen folks with Hollywood knowledge. Ask me anything you like, I understand that the Outfit is the most secretive syndicate & very little about what really goes on within their realm, but a select few of us are in the know. I thought I would be generous by coming here to share/trade some information on the Chicago Outfit, but so far I've only gotten nasty, juvenile feedback.

Outfit Bosses from 1931-on:
1931-1943: Ricca/Nitti
1943-1957: Ricca/Accardo
1957-1966: Moe Giancana/Ricca/Accardo
1966-1967: Sam Battaglia
1967-1969: Jackie The Lackey Cerone
1969-1971: Milwaukee Phil Alderisio
1971-1986: Joey Aiuppa/Jack Cerone/Tony Accardo (IN THAT ORDER)
1986-1989: Joe Ferriola
1989-1993: Black Sam Carlisi
1993-present: Johnny 'Bananas' DiFronzo

So as you can see, Accardo was never full-on boss. Kudos to the Outfit for continuing to confuse people on the matter to this very day.

So I guess that makes you a rat, right?

In one breath you say how secretive Chicago is, in the next you make a boastful post like this one.

You can't have it both ways. If you really are "in the know," then you're a R-A-T.

Seems like history is repeating itself on this forum.

A little contradictive, no?

Call me what you will, I'm not on board with what they do. I have a plethora of Outfit knowledge & it just frustrates me when I see/read falsities that are printed about them, as that is exactly what they want.

Common knowledge among those in the know*

I'm glad you're not rude and inconsiderate.

Some would argue that from mid 1940's up to about 1957, Accardo was defacto boss and Ricca was in a consigliere role. Accardo was respected as the go to person in that period by NY bosses, but there is evidence that the same was not always true for Giancana.

Those that would argue that would be 100% incorrect. It was the opposite. People believe the Accardo myth because Paul Ricca was JUST THAT GOOD at hiding himself, so was Moe Giancana & so was Joey O'Brien, which is why those goes are the top 3 Outfit gangsters of all-time (Ricca & Aiuppa would be up there regardless based on profits/assets alone). Accardo wasn't any more respected than anyone else, he was the Outfit's main speaker/rep during that time period. In no way, shape, or form does this mean that he was "the boss". Moe Giancana hated NY & everything it stood for, he looked at them as complete goofs & if he could have had it his way, he wouldn't have done any business/mingling with those clowns at all.

BridgeportVet: I'm sure many of us on this board would appreciate your "generousity" in sharing your knowledge of the Mob with us, but we'd like it better if you tried to maintain the high standard of courtesy and civility we maintain here.

Put another way: Quit calling people "goons," and if you want to brag, stand in front of a mirror.

So how has DiFronzo been so secure in power since '93?

if we bother you so much than leave!!!!!!

look how well that ended up for him......

Johnny Bananas DiFronzo is one of the most fascinating, polarizing Outfit bosses of all-time, hands down. He runs a very streamlined, zipped-up Outfit. He is of the Aiuppa/Cerone/Accardo school of Outfit bosses, meaning he is very shrewd & succinct. Everything is secured & backed-up ten fold. There are many rumours about JDF being a dry snitch, and those rumours probably have some truth to them, but it really doesn't matter at this point, no one is touching DiFronzo's Elmwood Park crew. He is also protected by the legendary Marco 'The Mover' D'Amico (consigliere at the moment) & his brother Pete DiFronzo, who is the current Outfit underboss. These are both two very wealthy & ruthless individuals (especially Marco) who's personal crews are some of the most infamous in modern Outfit history.

Getting rid of the Marcellos & the Calabreses was a big relief for DiFronzo, as those crews were pretty much the last of the savage street monsters. DiFronzo shuns any type of reckless street action. Needless to say, he is not particularly well-liked by Outfit guys outside of Elmwood/Melrose Park. Like I said, Johnny Bananas is an Aiuppa type boss in the sense that there are absolutely no hand-outs & you eat what you kill. Regardless of personal opinion on the man, he is an undisputed juggernaut in the world of organized crime & has always managed to stay under the radar (save for Operation Gambat)

BridgeportVet, maybe you should show us some proper sources before anyone would even consider believing you...

C'mon, Sonny, he's from Chicago. He doesn't need to provide any sources. HE IS THE SOURCE!

Hey Buddy you should try sitting on your hands till they go numb that way when you jerk off it feels like a stranger is doing it

lol I like it Dick.

He definitely knows how to use an adjective thats for sure. He may be wrong about...well everything...but those adjectives really make you wanna believe hes not an 18 yr old fan whose pop told him about the old neighborhood.

Sources or STFU.

You're right, I humbly apologize.

Enough with the comments about Vet's crap. It is obvious he is not to be taken seriously but let us not vilify him, either.

By the way, what do you think about Aiuppa? I heard much about Giancana being Accardo's and Ricca's puppet (don't know if it's true, I don't have first-hand information). But Aiuppa, was he a power by himself like BridgeportVet says or do you think he was just a puppet like the other front men?
I am asking this to understand better if the "Strawman" trial in which Aiuppa was one of the main defendants was a hard blow for the Outfit or did the law enforcement just scratch the top of the iceberg.

Nicholas whats the mickey mouse connection ? I want in !!!

Hey SP ..I guess you tried it out it worked for u lol..is SPMOB for smallpenis mob lmfao im j/p man

Johnny Bananna my dick!

Moe Giancana was nobody's puppet, let's get that out of the way. Tony Accardo never pulled the strings for anyone, he was a lifetime consigliere, which is a high-ranking position as is, obviously. But a guy like Accardo couldn't sniff a guy like Moe's fuckin jockstrap, you can bet your ass on that.

Joey 'O'Brien' Aiuppa, 'Old Man O'Brien', or simply 'The Old Man' as he is universally referred to here, was the single wealthiest boss in Chicago Outfit history, and believe me: He was THE BOSS. He & Cerone bullied Accardo into switching to their side in the late 60's & got him to turn his cheek when they took out Moe.

I think Aiuppa going away didn't hurt the Outfit too much on the streets here, because he had already set up such a rock solid base on the Southside & in general. He had already implanted the LaPietra people in Bridgeport/Chinatown & Cicero had been locked down for years. He also cut down street-level bullshit to a bare minimum, and completely streamlined the Outfit's business endeavors. He set up the modern Chicago Outfit, it would simply not exist if it were not for Old Man O'Brien.

Old Man O'Brien was a shrewd man. He dressed & acted like a ho-dump small town fisherman, you would have never been able to point him out on the street as the boss of the Chicago Outfit. But he was, and boy was he rich, and ruthless. Joey O. never had any kids of his own (he caught something at one of Capone's brothels that prevented him from ever procreating) but he loved two gangsters like they were his own son: Louis 'Louie The Mooch' Eboli & Marco 'The Mover' D'Amico. He sponsored both of them when they were made into the Outfit during the late 70's.

Still, Accardo never went to jail and the only time he was convicted it was immediately overturned, that should mean he had power and connections. Most of the “official” bosses went to jail sooner or later, he didn’t. As I said, I don’t know who is right in this debate because everything I know comes from the books and internet, so I can’t really express opinions, but Accardo seems an intelligent gangster due to his ability to evade justice. That’s a shame for the judicial system, really. The way he had those thieves who robbed his home flayed (or something like that, I don’t remember) is just crazy. In my opinion, it’s a strange combination of craziness and intelligence.

I completely agree, Ricca & Accardo were the two most elusive, long-term successful Outfit figureheads of them all. Their combined respective time spent outside of the joint is a mind-blowing stat.

For Ricca, it was pure cunning & absolute power/ruthlessness. He was truly the great one.

For Accardo, it was a combination of luck, savvy, & hiding behind other guys. Accardo was never as powerful as other top guys, he didn't have the rackets, wasn't a gambling guy, etc. He knew a lot about politics, knew how to butter up to top politicians, that is why Accardo was useful to the Chicago Outfit. He never made top decisions, never had the final say in anything. He was an intelligent guy, no doubt, and he was always loyal & friendly with other gangsters, which is why no one ever had the desire/reason to toss him under the boss.

But why do you think Accardo’s power was exaggerated? I mean, what are your information sources? You may feel offended by the way in which some other users asked this question, but if it’s asked in a polite way, why do you personally believe the official information to be wrong? After all, if it were made up by the FBI, it would be in their interest not to exaggerate, but to diminish Accardo’s importance since they were never able to catch him.

Haha I don't feel offended, I just know what I'm talking about. His IS slightly exaggerated; Joe Batters was a powerful guy, but he got to where he was by never stepping on toes & going along with the program.

It wasn't made up by the FBI, that's the information they got & they have every right to believe it. Fact is, Roemer was getting his info from Jackie Cerone, who was Aiuppa's right hand man, and Joey Aiuppa never wanted anyone to know he was the man, same with Paul Ricca. As I previously stated, Accardo was perfectly content being the front/fall guy, he was just that loyal.

I appreciate your rationality & polite nature, my friend. Any other questions you have, please grill me.