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Question about Carmine Galante ?

Posted By: Strax

Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 12:43 PM

I read somewhere on internet,while he was in prison,he told a black, "Get off the phone fuck*ng n*gga" and around him were more than 200 blacks,no one touched him ? Any truth in it,or can anyone confirm it ?

Thanks in advance.

Posted By: SC

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 12:55 PM

That's the rumor, Strax.

It's one thing to quote the term, as you did above, but don't you use the N word yourself. You'll notice I edited it out, and it is not allowed here.
Posted By: Strax

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 03:17 PM

Ok i am sorry,i just typed out the quote.I didn't want to hurt anyone or to be racist.
Posted By: Frosty

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 05:48 PM

I had also read this, and did he not get involved with blacks in drugs or am I thinking of someone else ?
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 05:53 PM

It's probably true that he said it, but he wouldn't do it today unless he was truly insane. The prison system is just much too different today.

John Gotti caught the beating of his life from a black inmate and literally had to turn to the Aryans for help. In Galante's day, the black guy probably would have been killed inside the prison within a matter of days.

Times change.
Posted By: Frosty

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 06:08 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
It's probably true that he said it, but he wouldn't do it today unless he was truly insane. The prison system is just much too different today.

John Gotti caught the beating of his life from a black inmate and literally had to turn to the Aryans for help. In Galante's day, the black guy probably would have been killed inside the prison within a matter of days.

Times change.
That they do and thanks but, was thar something with drugs involved ? TY
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 06:11 PM

Galante was one of the biggest heroin dealers who ever lived, Frosty.
Posted By: Frosty

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 06:16 PM

And then he got the blacks to work with, or for him right.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Strax
I read somewhere on internet,while he was in prison,he told a black, "Get off the phone fuck*ng n*gga" and around him were more than 200 blacks,no one touched him ? Any truth in it,or can anyone confirm it ?

Thanks in advance.



Vinny Teresa is the origin of this story. There was always prisoners standing in line to use the prison phone. Lilo never bothered to satnd in line, he just cut in whenever and wherever he felt like it.
Another thing Teresa tells us is that Lilo often acted as an uninvited arbitrator.
By coincidence, Lilo could walk up to two guys who would have an argument of some sort. The argument could had been based upon such trivial question of who was the righteous owner of a soap or a toothbrush! Lilo then listened to the both guys stories and immediately made out the ruling. "You are right, that guy is wrong." And that was the end of the argument. The two guys didn´t dare bring it up again since Lilo had finished it off.
Posted By: Frosty

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/19/11 08:25 PM

Thanks, HK, that thar is what I was thinken, I knew thar was somethin about somethin , they were all involved in H !
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 12:43 AM

I have heard about this story and i think its very possible it is true. Galante was a diagnosed psychopath who thought he was untouchable so i dont doubt it
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 01:01 AM

Speaking of Galante's relationship with blacks...


From the book Bringing Down the Mob by Thomas A. Reppetto:

"Released in 1974, he returned to the drug business. It was Galante who is reputed to have invented the notorious "black man test." In order to determine the quality of a quantity of heroin, an African-American addict would be kidnapped and injected with a double bag; if he became comatose within a specific time, the narcotic was judged to be of the correct purity."
Posted By: SC

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 01:05 AM

Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Galante was a diagnosed psychopath ...


Anyone who publicly announced that he'd make Carlo Gambino shit in Times Square had a few screws loose.
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 01:08 AM

Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Galante was a diagnosed psychopath ...


Anyone who publicly announced that he'd make Carlo Gambino shit in Times Square had a few screws loose.

I'm still surprised gambino didn't have galante killed before he died considering he killed respected captains from other families just because they made some drunken remarks
Posted By: capo16

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 06:53 AM

hmm maybe, maybe not gotti had a similar incident with a black guy while he was in jail the guy ended up punching him. Soon after gotti put a 100k contract on the guy but prison authorities got wind of it and moved the guy to a safer part of the prison and the guy soon got out on parole
Posted By: SC

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 07:01 AM

Originally Posted By: capo16
gotti had a similar incident with a black guy while he was in jail the guy ended up punching him.


The other inmate didn't just punch Gotti. He kicked the shit out of Gotti.

The times have changed since Galante was in prison. The blacks don't roll over to the wiseguys anymore. A lot of the change came about in the mid '60s along with the rise of the Black Muslims. Even out on the street, the Mob started to back off the path of the Muslims.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 09:03 AM

I believe gotta got a pair of jordan's as a gift from the guy as a sign of forgivness
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 09:34 AM

When was galante in jail and by any chance did he drive a packard?
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 09:34 AM

When was galante in jail and by any chance did he drive a packard?
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 09:54 AM

Lilo´s psychiatric report from 1931 (his age at that time was 20 or 21) can be found in the Vault (part 10 of 12):

"Neat in appearence, mental age of 14 and a half.
Dull emotionally, IQ of 90 (which is actually slightly above average, if I´m not mistaken).
Shy with strangers.
Diagnosed as neuropathic with psychopathic personality."

Lilo was released from prison in 1974 but put under the supervision of the US Board of Parole.
According to the documents he was constantly being watched by the feds during this time. He traveled to Florida several times and met with hoodlums in Texas.
If Lilo was engaged in heroin trafficking at that stage, he must have had worked out a perfect system to keep this under the feds radar. But there is nothing in the documents that suggests this. Lilo was under parole. So my humble opinion is that he kept himself out of this trade at that stage.
Of course, I could be very wrong. But keep in mind that it wasn´t until after the Lilo murder in 1979, that the heroin trade (what later became the Pizza Connection case) REALLY took off.

Interesting is Lilo´s participation (or how do you say it?...) in the funaral of Carlo Gambino, a man he intensly hated.
Various Mafia documentaries with footages from this funeral picks up Lilo standing talking to Tony Mirra (his bodyguard at the time). So when Lilo was put back into jail in 1977, it wasn´t because of heroin trafficking, it was because of him consorting with known criminals.
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 10:39 AM

The heroin trade was in full swing during the 70s then the cocaine trade came in and then you had crack which overshadowed most other drugs during the late eighties and early 90s. During this time heroin started to make a comeback because it asian gangs started bringing in from southeast asia. Alot of the pizza connection people started getting arrested during the early 80s from investigations into them from the 70s when it was at its peak.

It wasnt actually american born mobsters that were trafficking heroin at the time it was mostly sicilians operating under different families for protection.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 12:03 PM

I dont think this is pic is from the fivefamiles blog is it


Originally Posted By: capo16
hmm maybe, maybe not gotti had a similar incident with a black guy while he was in jail the guy ended up punching him. Soon after gotti put a 100k contract on the guy but prison authorities got wind of it and moved the guy to a safer part of the prison and the guy soon got out on parole
Posted By: Scorsese

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 12:16 PM

was the guy who attacked gotti a member of the dc blacks prison gang.
Posted By: Mussolini14

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 03:00 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: capo16
gotti had a similar incident with a black guy while he was in jail the guy ended up punching him.


The other inmate didn't just punch Gotti. He kicked the shit out of Gotti.

The times have changed since Galante was in prison. The blacks don't roll over to the wiseguys anymore. A lot of the change came about in the mid '60s along with the rise of the Black Muslims. Even out on the street, the Mob started to back off the path of the Muslims.



Doesn't look like a severe beating. One little cut on the forhead no broken Jaw, or nose, not even a black eye or fat lip. Looks more like a sucker punch than a sever beating. I read somewhere that the guy who punched Gotti got paroled soon after and ended up killing a cop so LE wished the hit Gotti put on the guy had gone through.
Posted By: SC

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 03:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: SC
The other inmate didn't just punch Gotti. He kicked the shit out of Gotti.


Doesn't look like a severe beating. One little cut on the forhead no broken Jaw, or nose, not even a black eye or fat lip. Looks more like a sucker punch than a sever beating.


Looks can be deceiving.... from all accounts I've read, Gotti took a beating.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 03:22 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: SC
The other inmate didn't just punch Gotti. He kicked the shit out of Gotti.


Doesn't look like a severe beating. One little cut on the forhead no broken Jaw, or nose, not even a black eye or fat lip. Looks more like a sucker punch than a sever beating.


Looks can be deceiving.... from all accounts I've read, Gotti took a beating.


Because of the lightning, he doens't even look like Gotti. He does look like a thirty year old when Gotti was pushing 60.
Posted By: Mussolini14

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Mussolini14
Originally Posted By: SC
The other inmate didn't just punch Gotti. He kicked the shit out of Gotti.


Doesn't look like a severe beating. One little cut on the forhead no broken Jaw, or nose, not even a black eye or fat lip. Looks more like a sucker punch than a sever beating.


Looks can be deceiving.... from all accounts I've read, Gotti took a beating.


You're right, its hard to tell by one pic with lighting like that. It does make him look much much younger with traps that rival Brock Lesners.. I know Gotti was a relatively big guy but his traps are deceivingly large in that pic.
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 09:08 PM

Various Mafia documentaries with footages from this funeral picks up Lilo standing talking to Tony Mirra (his bodyguard at the time)

If I was a mob captain or self proclaimed boss as Galante was then I cant think of a better guy to have as my bodyguard! LOL

Does anyone have any links to footage of Galante and Mirra at the funeral?
Thanks
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 09:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Scorsese
was the guy who attacked gotti a member of the dc blacks prison gang.


No, just some loner sociopath. Walter Johnson was his name. And, yes, he later killed a cop after he was released.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 10:14 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryH
Various Mafia documentaries with footages from this funeral picks up Lilo standing talking to Tony Mirra (his bodyguard at the time)

If I was a mob captain or self proclaimed boss as Galante was then I cant think of a better guy to have as my bodyguard! LOL

Does anyone have any links to footage of Galante and Mirra at the funeral?
Thanks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtMzwbpiBHI

At exactly 0:19:47 into this documentary you will find Galante at the Gambino funeral. If I´m not mistaken, Tony Mirra (in dark glasses) is standing right behind him.

(Credit to NickyScarfo for finding this one.)

In other documentaries I have seen them two talk to eachother. I´ll see if I can find them.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 10:27 PM

Actually...when studying the footage a little bit closer, it doesn´t seem to be Mirra at all. Now, I´m not so sure anymore... confused
Posted By: JCrusher

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/20/11 11:43 PM

Ya i didn't see mirra. i watched it a few times.
Posted By: GaryH

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/21/11 08:30 PM

The guy seems a little young and fresh faced to be Mirra
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/21/11 09:08 PM

You´re right. And the nose is definitely not Mirra´s.
I was wrong about footages showing Mirra at the Gambino funeral.
And if Wiki is to be believed, Mirra was in jail at that time, serving a 8 year sentence for drug pushing.
He must have been released sometime around 1977 because that was when he got made into Mickey Zaffarano´s crew, according to Lefty Ruggiero.
However, Lilo and Mirra were close, They were both indicted in the same case dealing drugs in the early 1960s. Also, there are indications that Lilo made Mirra.
Posted By: gemini_killer

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/27/11 01:23 PM

is this Galante?, I never noticed this before - I love this site lol nice one guys
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/27/11 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: gemini_killer
is this Galante?


Yeah, that´s him.
Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/27/11 10:53 PM

It was me
Posted By: gemini_killer

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 12/27/11 11:00 PM

lol he looks like one mean mf'er, I'm sure i've seen footage of him with his daughter and someone tells him theres a camera and he trys to cover his face with a sheet of paper, unsuccessfully .. quite amusing... lol
Posted By: Moe_Tilden

Re: Question about Carmine Galante ? - 06/25/14 11:10 PM

Is there any footage of Galante available? That YouTube link is dead.
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