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Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around?

Posted By: NickyScarfo

Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/09/11 03:35 PM

I can't find the picture of it but there is a famous picture from Time magazine in 1992 I think of the whole Gambino Hierachy and 21 Captains I believe. If anyone has it please post it.
My question is Have these crews been reduced from that number then, and today who are some of the players running those original crews? I guess D'Amico and Marino are the only guys still operating from the picture, I think Conte has retired.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/09/11 04:21 PM

Are you talking about this picture?

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Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/09/11 04:45 PM

These are still alive:

Frankie Locascio (in prison),
Anthony (Sonny) Ciccone (in prison),
Jackie "Nose" D´Amico (in prison),
George DeCicco (in prison),
Johnny Gambino (in prison?),
Thomas Gambino (retired),
John Gotti Jr (retired),
Peter Gotti (in prison),
Danny Marino (in prison),
Louis "Bracciole" Ricco,
"Big" Lou Vallario (in prison)

Actually this chart is not 100 percent accurate.
Three capos escaped under the FBI´s radar when this chart was made; Tony "Baker" Napolitano Sr, Joe "Z." Zingaro and "Little" Nicky Corrozzo.
Posted By: PhillyKid

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/09/11 05:22 PM

In "Making Jack Falcone", Greg DePalma tells Falcone/Garcia that the Gambino's have 25 crews, this was around 2002/2003. The chart compiled on the Real Deal form lists 23 current Capos (as well as the Acting Capo if the official Capo is imprisoned).
Posted By: NickyScarfo

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/10/11 01:21 AM

Yes thanks HK that's the picture I mean. Surely a lot of those crews aren't around today, for instance did anyone take over Tommy Gambino's crew? Or Conte's?
Philly Kid I have also read that about the number of current crews however wasn't there a gangland article which said they were down to like 14 or something?
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/10/11 07:46 AM

Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
Yes thanks HK that's the picture I mean. Surely a lot of those crews aren't around today, for instance did anyone take over Tommy Gambino's crew? Or Conte's?
Philly Kid I have also read that about the number of current crews however wasn't there a gangland article which said they were down to like 14 or something?


Tommy Gambino took over Frank Piccolo's crew that was based in Connecticut. When Tommy went to prison in the early 90's, George Remini took over. Now the crew is run by Carmine Sciandra. Not sure about Conte's crew.

Back in the mid-1990's, the Gambinos were said to be down to 10 crews. This was after the Gravano defection, which took down Gotti and several captains. But I imagine that was 10 fully functioning crews. Later DePalma talked about there being more.

The 14 crews was the number often cited for the Genovese family in reports from the 70's and 80's.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/10/11 09:07 AM

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: NickyScarfo
Yes thanks HK that's the picture I mean. Surely a lot of those crews aren't around today, for instance did anyone take over Tommy Gambino's crew? Or Conte's?
Philly Kid I have also read that about the number of current crews however wasn't there a gangland article which said they were down to like 14 or something?


Tommy Gambino took over Frank Piccolo's crew that was based in Connecticut. When Tommy went to prison in the early 90's, George Remini took over. Now the crew is run by Carmine Sciandra. Not sure about Conte's crew.

Back in the mid-1990's, the Gambinos were said to be down to 10 crews. This was after the Gravano defection, which took down Gotti and several captains. But I imagine that was 10 fully functioning crews. Later DePalma talked about there being more.

The 14 crews was the number often cited for the Genovese family in reports from the 70's and 80's.


Ivy, let me agree with you regarding the Gambinos. Right on the money.
There are indications that "Italian" Dom Cefalu took over Patsy Conte´s crew. First as an acting capo, and later (after serving a short prison term) as an official capo.

When it comes to the Genoveses, they seem to have had close to 20 capos around mid 80s. Mukremins chart (which I hope will soon be ready for display) suggests this.
Posted By: ht2

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/11/11 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles

When it comes to the Genoveses, they seem to have had close to 20 capos around mid 80s. Mukremins chart (which I hope will soon be ready for display) suggests this.


According to FBI charts, the Genovese had only 6 capos in the early 1960's. I guess the position of capo was a much more powerful position in the past (before the 1980's) , in that there were fewer of them.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/11/11 09:12 AM

I dont think there was any difference, a Capo was and still is a Capo. Only difference was that there were more soldiers under a Capo. Its harder to get things organized with few capos.
Posted By: HairyKnuckles

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/11/11 12:03 PM

Originally Posted By: ht2
Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles

When it comes to the Genoveses, they seem to have had close to 20 capos around mid 80s. Mukremins chart (which I hope will soon be ready for display) suggests this.


According to FBI charts, the Genovese had only 6 capos in the early 1960's. I guess the position of capo was a much more powerful position in the past (before the 1980's) , in that there were fewer of them.



Well, I think that you are refering to the Genovese chart that was used in the Valachi hearings. On that chart six capos are shown. But those six were the ones that were known at the time.

Here is a small excerpt from a FBI document (dated 1969) that can be found on the Mary Ferrell Foundation site, showing 15 different capos.

Vito Genovese Family 1960

Boss Vito Genovese
Underboss Gerardo Catena
Consigliere Michele Miranda
Capodecina Anthony Strollo
Angelo DeCarlo
Eugene Catena
Michael Coppola
Peter Defeo
Frank Tieri
Antonio Carillo
Cosmo Frasca
Rocco Pellegrino
Vincenzo Generoso
Salvatore Celembrino
Vincent Alo
Ruggiero Boiardo
John Biele
Thomas Greco
James Angellino

The FBI had learn more about the Mafia and who the players were by the end of the 60s than they knew in 1963.
Considering the huge number of soldiers in the Genovese Family (perhaps as many as 450 made men) and only six capos, doesn´t make sense. No capo would be able to run and control a crew of 75 made men (in average), and additional hundreds of associates.
Keep in mind that these 15 capos are the known ones by this time. So there could have been even more of them.
Posted By: ht2

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/11/11 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
The FBI had learn more about the Mafia and who the players were by the end of the 60s than they knew in 1963.
Considering the huge number of soldiers in the Genovese Family (perhaps as many as 450 made men) and only six capos, doesn´t make sense. No capo would be able to run and control a crew of 75 made men (in average), and additional hundreds of associates.
Keep in mind that these 15 capos are the known ones by this time. So there could have been even more of them.


Thanks for clearing that up. It makes a lot more sense. Whoever put together the Genovese chart never bothered to consult with Valachi, who was a member of this family for the previous 30 years. Unless he was ignorant of the structure of his own family.
Posted By: phatmatress

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/11/11 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By: ht2
Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
The FBI had learn more about the Mafia and who the players were by the end of the 60s than they knew in 1963.
Considering the huge number of soldiers in the Genovese Family (perhaps as many as 450 made men) and only six capos, doesn´t make sense. No capo would be able to run and control a crew of 75 made men (in average), and additional hundreds of associates.
Keep in mind that these 15 capos are the known ones by this time. So there could have been even more of them.


Thanks for clearing that up. It makes a lot more sense. Whoever put together the Genovese chart never bothered to consult with Valachi, who was a member of this family for the previous 30 years. Unless he was ignorant of the structure of his own family.
he wasnt the brightest bulb in the box most every thing he said was a prepped response from the fbi
Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/12/11 04:44 PM

Good info guys, thanks. Is this Tommy Gambino different from the guy in Los Angeles?
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: Are all these Gambino Crew's Still around? - 12/12/11 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Jimmy_Two_Times
Good info guys, thanks. Is this Tommy Gambino different from the guy in Los Angeles?


Yes. He's not the one in LA but the one who is the son of the late Carlo Gambino. He ran the garment center rackets for the family. But he is retired now and actually does live in California now, I think.
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