FBI files on Robert "DB" DiBernardo

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/2011/11/gambino-capo-dealed-in-boy-on-boy-porn.html

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/files/robert-dibernardo-fbi-files-part-1.pdf

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/files/robert-dibernardo-fbi-files-part-2.pdf

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/files/robert-dibernardo-fbi-files-part-2.pdf

Another golden nugget of info from the all mighty "friends of ours"

I sense that whoever works for that site or whoever runs it has a definite interest in the gay community, they always take special care when posting on the gay bar topics and the lesbian/gay topics in general.

The guys also got some great MC stuff.

The Hollywood Goodfella reminds me quite a bit of Friends of Ours

I guess the Mafia looks a blind eye at this kind of activity much like they turn one at the drug business. I would have hoped that this wouldn't be tolerated.

In the end, it really does come down to the money. Paul and other guys were recorded on tape badmouthing DB about being in the porn business but that never stopped them from taking money from him.

However, Nino Gaggi did come down on Roy DeMeo for trafficking in child porn. In fact, he threatened to kill him if he didn't stop. Roy had been involved in the regular porn business for a while but he argued that "was the way the industry was going" and they "couldn't stay competitive" if they didn't adapt. But DeMeo made him quit anyway.

Every family probably had at least one person handling that business for them. It would be interesting to know every crime all members of five families have commited in their lifetime.

Gnarly! Coming from you I believe this, it's certainly a fascinating tidbit.

You can read about it in the book "Murder Machine."

You're right. There's heaps of pages and files on Stonewall and mob involvement in gay bars, quite interesting stuff.

Plus it's called "bitter queen".

lol and i just found out the hosting location is San Francisco CA, United States. Haha

Thats an odd place to run a news blog on organized crime

Still a great blog, in any case. I like the way he talks shit and bags on mobsters and criminals. A bitter queen indeed.

Kudos for Nino... Old school to the bonezzzzzz....

Different sources say it was Angelo Ruggiero or Sammy Gravano who instigated DiBernardo's whacking. Who do you guys think was responsible?

I never seen this thread until now and definitely going to read up on these. This is the first time I think I've ever seen DiB in a picture, of course it's not the best picture but it works!

Been looking for the mob week episodes of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher but they are proving elusive. Hundreds of episodes on YouTube but this ain't one of them!

Cindy DiBernardo, Jerry Capeci and Steve Schirripa were among the guests. Anyone remember this?

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=20...pg=4997,7239740

he was a very important $$$soldier in the 80tys he had interest in the porno biz alway the way up in Worcester mass and in rhode island nevermind nj, cali, and florida. he was 50/50 on a porn store up here in 1980. all the porn guys from different familys worked with him and needed his help. think he was under indictment when he was murderd or out on appeal. the westside and patriarca family had a understanding but when d.b. came into the picture there had to be sitdowns.

Fat Fat owed DB $250K or so and Gravano wanted control of DB's union. They both had Gotti's ear. If he was dealing in kiddie porn he deserved what he got.

Didn't Gaggi tell Montiglio he didn't want him going near porn because his grandmother wouldn't like it ?? Killing people I guess was accepted by granny !!

Bitter queen is a decent blog. Great article I read about salvatore granello a genovese huge earner who was a kiddy molester and got whacked out by eboli. Dude was a fing pig who deserved what he got. Does anyone know a good book about the end of the Newark family and the genovese takeover of nj and the battle between tony bananas and the genovese after catena retirement

Anyone else think he looks like the dad from Diff'rent Strokes?

Lol you think dealing child porn warrants a death sentence? I mean maybe the people making the flicks..

They all may act like its the worst thing in the world (and it is) but in the street its how it goes and it around every corner supply and demand and all the little book stores and there were a shit load involved in everything!!! Money loans booze to minors and sex of any kind with anything. in AC and up the Black & Whitehorse pike and up and down the state was all connected and it went right to the boss.

The bosses that went for that shit were the bosses that lived it grew up in the allys where and when the children learned rank sexually and as they grew up it got worse and and turned into a business. NY guys were all over AC and big names this fat redhead guy Fat Richie was in and out of every hole in the wall he was connected to DB and to NY and Philly and had a crew of kids everyone knew and it went right back to guy like little Harry and he was with DB and Ny guys in that.

Some took money blind but others knew the suffering those kids were going through and as they got older they were used for something else ...shit some kids if nobody came around while they were hanging out those kids would disappear quick ...sold for whatever reason.

Some sold for movies some to prostitute others used in a different city as a street kid that ended up in a drug or other crew.

This stuff was rampant in 60’s 70’s early 80’s when the big crack down came .

Scarfo Jewish partner was wrapped up with Fat Rich and DB but not Bruno it was the guys Harry from west Philly was and a few Jewish guys one was a multi millionaire that i will not name i know his son and he does well and his head guy was his fathers head guy and still kicking at 80 running shit but all is legitimate as far as i know and he owns some good businesses .


Extortion its been a long time .... good to see you posting

https://youtu.be/8-QN0uPOsZQ


Alite and borello podcast with bobby who worked in these porn stores for paul castellano,roy demeo and robert debenardo...He said Castellano knew about the child sex trafficking and only ordered them to stop after he was arrested in the stolen car case...He also talks about how they set him up in the child porn racket and would send him on dates with old men when HE WAS A KID(DISCUSTING) Very fascinating and interesting

Yeah it is disgusting....

But it was a thing that any street kid knew.... parents kept kids close ..... its not like now people were praying on your children and it was in most major city’s .

It still takes a certain kind of guy to run these rackets and thats why Harry was always looked down apron , shady cats !

The guy Bobby the guys he is talking about owning the buildings are were some shrewd guys but there money is still making money even though they are gone

Guys would get a girl to drink and as soon as he could he get her on 714’s or heroin and get her or him under control, many thought it was to get them to be buyers it was to get them to do anything for a long time a sex slave for dope. .

I just finished watching The Deuce. I thought it was bullshit how Michael Rispoli's character had a moral epiphany re: the child pornography racket, when in reality nobody with his standing in the Gambino or Genovese family had any qualms about profiteering from it. I know how episodic television works and they had to make him more likeable or relatable in order to make Tommy Longo's betrayal more powerful, but come on...

And don't get me started on James Franco's portrayal of what are supposed to be effectively mafia associates. It would've been nice to have the main characters show more shades of grey, rather than being all out loveable rogues.

Getting back to my original point, this Robert Di Bernardo (who is mentioned in The Deuce) wasn't killed because of the filth he peddled. He was killed because of money. That's what it always comes down to.

The Deuce was a great show all the same. Slow-burning but worth sticking with if you approach it more like a book - just like all David Simon shows.

I just had to get off my chest that one bit which stuck in my craw.

That's what made The Sopranos so great. I love Tony Soprano as a character, as an antihero - but his actions were not written to be admired. His arc was what it should've been. You grow to loathe him by the end of the series. Likewise, Paulie and Christopher are great characters and have scenes and storylines that show a human side (that all people good and bad have) but you are never far away from a scene that shows their true nature to remind you that you're not supposed to be rooting for them.

Some of the mob stuff in The Deuce was uncomfortably akin to all those Movie of the Week type mafia movies, straddling the line too close in favor of making the mobsters look "cool".

Anyways, I'm rambling again...

Upped

This is why I think the Mob is evil. I know obviously they are not all into disgusting shit , but apparently the bosses back then were alright with it as long as they got their share of the profit.

Props to Nino if he really stopped DeMeo from doing that.

Upped for anyone interested

Nobody stopped anything, they all knew what was going on and they all profited from it. Nino told Roy to stop but he never did, in fact, he got in deeper and Nino kept taking the money and so did Paul. You had Ed "The Skull" Murphy, Genovese associate and Mike Umbers Gambino associate, Paul DiBella Gambino soldier, Joe Brochinni Lucchese soldier and Robert DiBernardo Gambino Capo all trading in gay teen porn, pedophilia and human trafficking.
http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2010/04/mafia-exploitation-of-kids-really-new.html?m=1

100% it’s all about the green, the honor was a facade for money. There’s no honor in pimping out teen runaways for money

Bullcrap. Thread upped by jerk to make an invalid point, they told him to stop, any money he gave they thought was from regular porn, which it may have been. The sites used as sources are extremely biased, especially Bitterqueen, which was produced by a gay man who claimed all the bosses were gay and had sex with each other in gay clubs. Sure, Anastasia and Genovese would hold hands and kiss while strolling together passed a jealous Carlo Gambino. If you want to make accusations use real sources. Louienochi claimed me, Nymafia and others here are child porn traffickers, so that speaks for his agenda and credibility.

Jace he's a jerk-off, plain and simple

You 2 are completely delusional with your denials and unwavering support that the mob didn’t do this. You guys really protect your fellow travelers....

Say whatever you want about Bitterqueen, but that was an awesome organized crime blog.

Mooney, ya think? You’re a smart one. Nothing gets by you.

How did you access the site?
It keeps asking for log in details but no register button

The feds shut it down for being too gay

I had a dirt bag uncle by marriage...He was arrested for making porn movies with underage kids...He was banished from the family...Nobody spoke to him again...We certainly didn't view him as a gentleman like lots of people seem to view DiBernardo

The only people that refer to child and teen traffickers, which is what "DB" was, as a gentleman, are fellow travelers like Jace and NYMafia
No high functioning adult with a brain in their head or empathy in their soul would ever defend scum of the fucking earth like that....these guys ignore irrefutable evidence...
Guys like DB or Kenneth Guarino were total pieces of shit except in that world were theyre viewed as gentlemen...Kenny Guarino was such a gentleman that he took in a 13 year old girl and had her star in his movie and they had to shut down production early cause she almost died from the bleeding because they literally tore her to shreds while making a porno....

NYMafia seems like a good guy...He posts good stuff unlike lots of these kooks

The depth of the Mafia's involvement in the vice industry was ubiquitous before Thomas Dewey sent Lucky Luciano up the river in 1936. DiBernardo's mentor was Mickey Zaffarano, a Bonnano Soldier who's office was on the 2nd floor of the Pussycat Theatre at 1600 Broadway in Times Square. Then you had Matty "The Horse" Ianello representing the Genovese interests in peep shows and topless dancers. Paul DiBella and Robert Dibernardo for the Gambino's and Joe Brochinni rounding out the for the Lucchese’s. Ed "The Skull" Murphy and Mike Umbers were the associates doing the dirty work of human trafficking and pedophilia production and eliminating unwanted "loose ends".

Oh please, pedophilia, human trafficking, how about BS? The 2 biggest money makers for the mafia were gambling and unions, with loans in the mix. The sex business involvement was minimal and almost non-existent, until porn became an issue. Then the FBI and others started saying they were "Deeply involved" The internet with sites like Bitterqueen fueled the lie. Ianiello was barley involved and his part was in the real estate end of it. He had one club under his protection (The Horseshoe) and how deeply he was involved is sketchy if you look past the surface. Pedophilia involvement was not there, is not there, and is just put out by people angry about the Godfather movie or some other stupid thing.

I never heard of Bitterqueen before I saw the links posted above. Here's a brief summary of Matty's exploits in the sex trade.
"In 1960, Ianniello became partners with Edward L. DeCurtis, a longtime associate, in running private after-hours drinking clubs for gay men.[2] Ianniello eventually owned a string of clubs and nightclubs for gay men, including the Gilded Grape and the Hay Market.[1]"
"During the 1960s and 1970s, Ianniello controlled the lucrative sex industry centered near Times Square. He was convicted of bid rigging in construction, skimming union dues and extorting protection money from bar owners, pornography peddlers, and topless dancers as Times Square became filled with peep shows.[1]"
"In the early 1970s, Ianniello was promoted to caporegime.[6] Ianniello then controlled over 80 restaurants and sex-oriented clubs in New York, including most of those located in the Times Square area of Manhattan."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Ianniello

O.C. is intriguing or none of us would be here....

Two things though that nobody here should think is honorable is junk dealing and any kind of porn...

I lost a sister at 16 years old in the 70's..Just because everyone else was doing it, she tried it...

I know the family of one of Gotti's guys who pushed junk, and they're a beautiful family, but for all I know, he might have supplied the dose that killed my sister...How can ya defend that, by saying my 16 year old sister deserved it, and my mother had to live with that pain the rest of her life ??

Your parents can only watch ya so much...To see dirtbags like Alite proudly saying he was in the heroin business and yet media still courts him is disgusting

My younger brother just had to go through rehab for opioid addiction so I feel your pain.
My interest is simply historical, as a native New Yorker who's family goes back 3 generations, we had more than a little interaction with LCN.

Thwe Haymarket is the place I was thinking of, I incorrectly called it the Horseshoe. He may have had an internet in the gay bars, but the porn stuff no. He was also hardly ever in the area, as was indicated in his trial in the 1980's. BItterqueen is an awful source.

[quote=CNote]My younger brother just had to go through rehab for opioid addiction so I feel your pain.
My interest is simply historical, as a native New Yorker who's family goes back 3 generations, we had more than a little interaction with LCN.[/quote

Oxycodone or another?

Smack, they all end up on smack in the end because it's the most affordable, if they're lucky, they don't catch a dose of fentanyl and O.D. before they get help

My ex is a recovering addict... heroin and percocets. ..worse thing on the planet. Anyone dealing Heroin should burn in hell for a thousand years .
Fetanoyl is killing people. I’m here in south fla this is the rehab capital for it and it’s everywhere. And when you have been clean for months and then you relapse you think you can do as much as before and all it takes is one time to OD on fetanoyl and you have people pushing condensed fetanoyl pills like they’re percs....it’s disgusting there’s absolutely no honor is Heroin and any organization that was knee deep in it. Is complete scum

Sadly, the void in narcotics distribution in the US left by the demise of the American Mafia has been filled to some degree by The Mexican Cartels and even worse Big Pharma who is probably responsible for the deaths of more Americans in the last twenty years than all the OD's since the inception of The Five Familes 80 years ago

I hope the best for your brother...Its a strong addiction

Those Oxy's are a horrible drug. They've become the scourge of the U.S.

All coming courtesy to you of the big pharmaceutical companies. They gutted the country this last decade or so. Many unneeded, senseless deaths (all to make a buck)

Now you have a fake quote from me in your signature, not fair at all.

Thank you for your compassion, the recidivism statistics are grim indeed.

Brocchini beat up DeMeo for suggesting his stores peddle in the sick shit DB/demeo we’re known to delve in.