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Posted By: IvyLeague

New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/07/10 10:35 PM

Acting Boss: Andy Russo
Acting Underboss: Benjamin Castellazzo
Acting Consigliere: Richard Fusco

Here are Russo and Castellazzo below. If I can locate a picture of Fusco, I'll post it too.

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Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/07/10 10:40 PM

Geez, Richie Fusco has been around forever. If I'm not mistaken, he's in that famous picture with Sinatra at the Westchester Premier Theatre way back in 1976.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/07/10 10:43 PM

1976 - Left to right: Paul Castellano, Gregory DePalma, Sinatra, Tommy Marson, Carlo Gambino, Aladena Fratianno, Salvatore Spatola, Seated: Joseph Gambino, Richard Fusco

Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/07/10 11:27 PM

gregory depalma, is that the gambino gangster that fbi agent jack falcone was around with?
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/08/10 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Mukremin
gregory depalma, is that the gambino gangster that fbi agent jack falcone was around with?


Yeah, that's him back in the 70's.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/08/10 08:26 AM

jezus, he changed that much? Well then i have to congratulate Jack Falcone for his great work.

But still after reading his book, i sense a wannabee joe pistone image. Guess all of the undercover agents have that attitude.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/08/10 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Mukremin
jezus, he changed that much?

People do age over a 30 year period, you know.

Ah, youth lol.
Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/08/10 07:13 PM

damm i wish i can read gangland this week they actually have 3 great articles. The feds are are seeking the death penalty against Vinny Gorgeous which means Massino will probably make his debut as the first turncoat Boss! and Colombo Joel Cacece.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 08:30 AM

I hate them, why the hell seek death penalty against Vinny Gorgeous? They should give Gas Pipe Casso the fucking injection frown
i really liked vinny
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 02:47 PM

Why would you like these guys, let's be honest, they're all killers. But I must admit they are some sort of fascinating.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
Why would you like these guys, let be honest, they're all killers. But I must admit they are some sort of fascinating.

Excellent take, Sonny. I applaud your ability to display morality without being preachy.

Yes, the are fascinating, from a sociological standpoint, but let's not forget that they're almost all murderers.
Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 03:18 PM

Its the old Robin Hood syndrome eh?

Also applicable to wild west outlaws and gangsters.

We like to root for the bad guy sometimes,no matter how awful thay may be in reality!
Posted By: GaryH

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 03:18 PM

DeMeo fascinates me the most but I've never liked him and certainly would never have wanted to have met him
Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 03:21 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryH
DeMeo fascinates me the most but I've never liked him and certainly would never have wanted to have met him


Yeah, him and his spooky crew eh?
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 05:52 PM

i havent read about the demeo crew alot, but one thing is certain. Gas Pipe Casso is far more worse, he killed more then 30 people by hiw own hands. Not counting the many others who did it in the name of casso.

Why i like them? They have class, and something mystic. And yes they are bunch of killers, and didnt do anything good in their life. They didnt work everyday for a living, like we do. But still i like them to a certain degree.
Posted By: Sonny_Black

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/09/10 07:05 PM

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

Excellent take, Sonny. I applaud your ability to display morality without being preachy.


Thanks PB.

Originally Posted By: GaryH
DeMeo fascinates me the most but I've never liked him and certainly would never have wanted to have met him


I would like to meet a guy like him, but only if he's behind bars and would never be free again. I would like to ask him questions about how he experienced killing people and why he chose to do that. What the mob life was like etc. Maybe some inside information about his organization. Because these guys are interesting in how they behave and live their life. I don't aprove of killing innocent people, because that's just horrible, but to be honest I don't really care if these guys kill eachother or crooks who deserve it.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 06:16 AM

and remember they have rules, unlike other ethnic criminal organizations like Russians and many latin groups. No killing of cops, fbi, government, and civillians.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 07:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Mukremin
i havent read about the demeo crew alot, but one thing is certain. Gas Pipe Casso is far more worse, he killed more then 30 people by hiw own hands. Not counting the many others who did it in the name of casso.


Read Murder Machine, by Jerry Capeci, and you opinion will probably change. Casso was involved in almost 40 murders but the DeMeo crew was an entire crew of serial killers. They were involved in over 100 murders. Many of them killed in the apartment next to the Gemini Lounge, drained in the bath tub, cut up into pieces, and sent to the Fountain Avenue dump.
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 07:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Mukremin
and remember they have rules, unlike other ethnic criminal organizations like Russians and many latin groups. No killing of cops, fbi, government, and civillians.


As far as the American mob goes, that's generally the case. But there have been exceptions to that rule where they have killed civilians, cops, etc. The OC groups over in Italy are more like the Russians and Latin American groups, in that they will kill anyone.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 10:03 AM

I recieved just that book you mentioned, i am going to read it wink
and yesterday i finished reading Gangbusters, its a good book but the author acts like the mafia is dead and is more like a street gang with low life criminals. I dont agree with that, they are still active with scams involving millions of dollars. And he describes Gaetano Lucchese as one of the best dons of OC. Oh not to forget Ducks Corallo, they were smart yes but not the way he describes them.

Yes there are exceptions, like the killing of Fat Pete Chiodo's sister if i remember correctly with order of Casso. And a couple in the Colombo wars, the american mob also has a rule right? not to kill infront of his wife or children. But that rule was also broken several times, most notably in the Colombo Wars.
Posted By: GaryH

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 11:05 AM

The Demeo crew murdered between 75 and 200 people (FBI Estimate).
Even Gotti gave Demeo a wide berth.
Casso went paranoid crazy when he was co-boss of the Lucchesse which is when he started clipping his own men left right and center - where as Demeo was only ever a Gambino soldier.
As far as mob killers go, they dont come much worse than Demeo
Maybe "Tommy Karate" Pitera (Bonnano) is almost on a par.

For sure, read "Murder Machine" and "For the sins of my father" (by Roys son Albert).
Both books are excellent.
Last I heard, Albert was trying to get his book made into a movie - dunno if that will ever happen though?
But for me, Roy DeMeo takes some beating in the contention for the title of the mobs worst killer
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 06:13 PM

Jezus, thats massive. Its a very nice book indeed, i am allready at half chapter 2 and cant wait to read it further. The prologue was very nice, would love to see a movie about the Demeo Crew.

BTW is this book any good:
The Butcher: Anatomy Of A Mafia Psychopath
its about the Bonanno mobster Tommy "Karate" Pitera
Posted By: Lilo

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Jezus, thats massive. Its a very nice book indeed, i am allready at half chapter 2 and cant wait to read it further. The prologue was very nice, would love to see a movie about the Demeo Crew.

BTW is this book any good:
The Butcher: Anatomy Of A Mafia Psychopath
its about the Bonanno mobster Tommy "Karate" Pitera


I reviewed that book here. YMMV ohwell
http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post557546
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 06:57 PM

I skipped it, Lilo. I was so turned off by Philip Carlo's writing style in his book about Gaspipe (cliche after cliche rendered it almost unreadable, and the author is clearly quite impressed by these goons), I just couldn't bring myself to read the Pitera book.
Posted By: Lilo

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 06:59 PM

You didn't miss much PB. I think Carlo could use a stronger editor.
Posted By: pizzaboy

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Lilo
I think Carlo could use a stronger editor.

Exactly wink smile.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 10:32 PM

hmm think ill pass this book, what do you guys think of the books about joe massino? and gangbusters? i read them, they were cool. But i have my doubts about gangbusters, author got some things messed up.
Posted By: GaryH

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/10/10 11:11 PM

Hi Mukremin.

Have you read

"Murder Machine" about the DeMeo crew
"For the sins of my father" (written by Roy DeMeo's son)
"Underboss" about Sammy Gravano
"Mafia son" about Greg Scarpa (which I'm currently reading)

All 4 of the above books are very good reads and I didnt want to put them down.

I was initially blown away by Carlo's "Iceman" book (till I learned that Kuklinksi was the biggest bullshitter in the western hemisphere).
I wasnt to impressed with Carlo's "Gaspipe" book and I think thats whats put me off buying the "Tommy Karate" book!

Is it just me or is there a lack of books on the Genovese family?
I suppose the Genovese have been lucky that not many of their guys turned rat/informant - thats probably the reason
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/11/10 03:53 AM

Ernest Volkman is well known for not getting all his facts right. In fact, Jerry Capeci has what he calls the "Volkie Awards," for authors who have screwed up like Volkman has in his books.

That said, even Volkman isn't nearly as bad as Phil Carlo, who is considered a total hack by many.

And, no, there isn't a lot of books on the Genovese. Usually just indirect things in other books. Like the materical on them in Five Families, etc.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/11/10 08:54 AM

Hi GaryH, i am currently reading Murder Machine. And the other books i allready ordered, so i will be recieving tthem soon.

Thats the reason why the Genoveses are still the most strongest family in whole of America.

Ernest Volkman says at the end that all of the families are shattered and broken in street gangs etc. Thats nonsense, oke maybe the book was written decade ago? that would explain some of it.
Posted By: Italian4Life

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/11/10 08:50 PM

Blood and Honor by George Anastasia, Book about Nicky Scarfo
The last Gangster: By George Anastasia. Book about Joey Merlino and the only former cop to made.

Flipped: Kenji Gallo. Modern day Colombo family.

Andy Russo is still alive? He was street Colombo boss in the 80s. This guy was old as dirt then.
Posted By: Mukremin

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/11/10 11:04 PM

modern day colombo family? hmm il buy it then, and i like joey merlino. he seems more like a moviestar grin

what about this book:
Breakshot: A Life in the 21st Century American Mafia

and the other flipped? thats a documentary, whre can i see it
Posted By: IvyLeague

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/12/10 05:40 AM

Breakshot is about Kenny "Kenji" Gallo. He actually used to post on the Real Deal forum. Probably still checks in now and again. He's half Asian, half Italian I think. Anyway, he started out in the drug business in California. Later he got into the porn industry as a director - whatever that means. He developed contacts with the LA mob family and worked with them for a while until he moved back east. First to Florida, if I remember right, and then to New York where he ended up working with the Colombos. He does have some entertaining stories but he seems to jump back and forth between refreshing honesty and self-serving hyperbole. But that's to be expected I suppose.

He used to have a website called HollywoodMafia.com Lots of stuff about the LA mob, past and present (what's left of it), a number of pictures, and a hilarious phone rant left by LA mob capo Jimmy Caci who thought Kenji was someone else that had called him. He now has his Breakshot blog site. Pretty much the same thing. He tells the same stories and argues with people who call him a "rat." He provides some good info but I've always found it strange how he's left the life but still can't leave it alone, so to speak.

http://breakshotblog.blogspot.com/

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Posted By: Dapper_Don

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 10/14/10 01:01 AM

^^^amen i check out his blog all the time just to see the comments that are left, i get the feeling he really resents/might be jealous of alot of the colombo guys on the street, he wont stop yapping bout them
Posted By: tattoo_mafia

Re: New Colombo leadership in latest Gang Land News - 11/27/10 03:08 AM

i would say that roy demeo was much more trechorous than gaspipe..( in my opinion) i have both books and done alot of cross referencing on both people and true they were both stone cold killers..the difference was that roy demeo used to cut his bodies up and dispose of the pieces..that is a whole different type of killer in my opinion..i have seen alot of violence in my life and known alot of the wrong people and i can actually say that some people get off on that stuff..
i did like the part where gaspipe got the guy who tried to kill him and then tortured him for hours before he finally put him out of his misery..come to speak of it, they both were homicidal maniacs..if you havent read it, read murder machine about roy demeo
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