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Godfather too Detailed?

Posted By: Rudik

Godfather too Detailed? - 11/22/04 09:11 PM

I have read The Godfather 3 times now. And what I notice about Puzo that he is too detailed. Not enough dialogue. Tell me if I am wrong.
Posted By: Don Sonny Corleone

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 11/23/04 02:27 AM

I dont think that The Godfather is some sort of unquestionable masterpiece or anything like that, however I though it was very decent, and if anything,too descriptave....at least when it came to Lucy operation.
Posted By: plawrence

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 11/23/04 09:38 PM

It's a novel. The author describes what's happening, he describes the physical surroundings, he describes what the characters are thinking.

You want dialogue, read the screenplay.
Posted By: mr. soprano

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 11/24/04 08:26 AM

plawrence do i detect a bit of annoyance from you? wink
Posted By: Liz_85

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 11/24/04 03:06 PM

I love Puzo so much because he's so descriptive. Mark Winegardner is much the same, so I'm glad he's the one who's written the prequel, we're keeping with the theme.
Personally, I prefer the detail to lots of dialogue. Like Plawrence said, I watch the movie if I feel like listening to people speak. The book creates great visuals, which is why I love it so much.
Posted By: mr. soprano

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 11/25/04 03:18 AM

i personally think that the only place that puzo went into much detail on, and devoted to much time to, is the johnny fontane and lucy mancini parts. i find them boring, and i usually just skip those parts.
Posted By: Chancre

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 12/09/04 03:19 AM

Place, Fact, Scene. All the essential elements are there. Too much dialogue would create just another dramatic vacuum!
Posted By: Tony Mosrite

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 12/09/04 05:35 PM

I love the book just the way it is, but I do find the Johnny Fontane's and Lucy Mancini's stories VERY boring.
Posted By: JustMe

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 12/09/04 06:20 PM

Yes, I skip those parts too. And it is really a good literature, written in a very decent language. As to its being too detailed... Details are what you read books for! Nothing else, even movie, can give you as much details of character, way of thinking, inner processes, as book can. That's why nothing can equal literature for the fullness of emotional experience. Only dreams and music, perhaps... smile
Posted By: Cancerkitty

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 12/11/04 03:05 AM

I gotta say, this Godfather is the only film I've ever seen that I prefered over the book. FFC cut out all the boring stuff, and all the weird sex-organ-deformation stuff, and that made all the difference for me. It seemed like Puzo couldn't decide between writing a mafia book or a porno sometimes.
Posted By: JustMe

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 12/11/04 03:33 PM

Besides the stuff that should be cut of course, Coppola cut many necessary things, and there are things that you cant show in the movie, even if you are a perfect actor. And movie is always short of time, they cut and cut to make it shorter - how stupid rolleyes . And he changed many things in the original novel he'd better leave as they were. So I definitely prefer the book, the skipped wersion without Fontane-Mancini parts wink
Posted By: Don Smitty

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 01/17/05 12:40 AM

The Godfather is the Bible of American novels......
Posted By: Don Cardi

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 01/17/05 12:58 AM

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Originally posted by Cancerkitty:
It seemed like Puzo couldn't decide between writing a mafia book or a porno sometimes.
SC covered this exact topic in another post and explained, not in these exact words, but something to the effect that back in the fifties and sixties authors chose to put soft porn in their novels as that type of content helped sell books back then. If you've ever read an Ian Fleming James Bond novel, they were filled wih sexual content.

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Posted By: goombah

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 01/20/05 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Cancerkitty:
I gotta say, this Godfather is the only film I've ever seen that I prefered over the book. FFC cut out all the boring stuff, and all the weird sex-organ-deformation stuff, and that made all the difference for me. It seemed like Puzo couldn't decide between writing a mafia book or a porno sometimes.
I would agree that FFC left out the less interesting stuff from the novel. However, I would have liked to see the following from the book:

1) inserted into the beginning of the GFII film: the scene between Kay & Hagen, where Hagen is sent to bring Kay home

2) a flashback scene showing Luca Brasi killing the 6 Capone men

3) a flashback to a young Santino telling Vito that Santino witnessed his father murdering Fannucci.
Posted By: DutchGodfather

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 01/22/05 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by goombah:
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Originally posted by Cancerkitty:
[b] I gotta say, this Godfather is the only film I've ever seen that I prefered over the book. FFC cut out all the boring stuff, and all the weird sex-organ-deformation stuff, and that made all the difference for me. It seemed like Puzo couldn't decide between writing a mafia book or a porno sometimes.
I would agree that FFC left out the less interesting stuff from the novel. However, I would have liked to see the following from the book:

1) inserted into the beginning of the GFII film: the scene between Kay & Hagen, where Hagen is sent to bring Kay home

2) a flashback scene showing Luca Brasi killing the 6 Capone men

3) a flashback to a young Santino telling Vito that Santino witnessed his father murdering Fannucci. [/b]
4)The old lady in Sicily who asks Michael what happened to Luca Brasi. And that she tells the story of the Irish girl and the baby. It would have made Luca a lot more scarier if FFC putted that in the movie. smile
Posted By: JustMe

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 01/22/05 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by DutchGodfather:
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Originally posted by goombah:
[b] I would agree that FFC left out the less interesting stuff from the novel. However, I would have liked to see the following from the book:

1) inserted into the beginning of the GFII film: the scene between Kay & Hagen, where Hagen is sent to bring Kay home

2) a flashback scene showing Luca Brasi killing the 6 Capone men

3) a flashback to a young Santino telling Vito that Santino witnessed his father murdering Fannucci.
4)The old lady in Sicily who asks Michael what happened to Luca Brasi. And that she tells the story of the Irish girl and the baby. It would have made Luca a lot more scarier if FFC putted that in the movie. smile [/b]
I would like to see Mike-Kay relationship as it was in the book. It would be more, but it would be more natural for both. The way he cut off almost everything there was between them is one of the weakest things about GF.
Posted By: Martin Sbalzi

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 01/25/05 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by Rudik:
I have read The Godfather 3 times now. And what I notice about Puzo that he is too detailed. Not enough dialogue. Tell me if I am wrong.
I don't see how any book can be too detailed. If anything, it makes the story much better to read because you can imagine what the scenery is like. The dialogue seem perfect for me. The only part I disliked about The Godfather was Book II, where Johnny Fontane was given $20, 000, 000 to produce a movie. It seems boring and carried on for quite a bit.
Posted By: Debz

Re: Godfather too Detailed? - 02/24/05 07:39 PM

I agree I found some Johnny Fontane and Lucy parts on the novel quite dull aswell...I dont know if it was the fact that they were not covered so much in the film...or probably because they didn't seem to have much point to them confused I watched the film before reading the book...so i had the images playing in my head as i was reading it..its a brilliant book tho no questions asked lol
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