It was 20 years ago today

The "Hand of God" was born on June 22th in 1986 at Azteca Stadium, in Mexico City.

Argentina's Diego Maradona, left, beats England goalkeeper Peter Shilton to a high ball and score his first of two goals in a World Cup quarterfinal in Mexico City, in this June 22, 1986 photo. Argentina won 2-1. Maradona acknowledged that he struck the ball with his hand in the famous "Hand of God" goal against England in the 1986 World Cup quarterfinals. Speaking on his local television talk show Monday night, Aug. 22, 2005, Maradona called one of soccer's most controversial goals "something that just came out of me. It was a bit of mischief."



Don´t cry for me, England!

...that the New York Mets beat The Chicago Cubs 4 - 2 on a complete game from Ron Darling and a two run homer by Lenny Dykstra, to give them 46 WINS and 19 losses at that point in the season.


Don Cardi

... that Sgt. Pepper taught his band to play.. :p

I knew this would be about the Hand of God.

Maradona's a cheating little bastard. Say what you want about him, cheating eliminates all talent.

Also the talent to cheat?

The 'talent to cheat' is really non-existant, because if you had any talent, you wouldn't. Although Maradona was great, he cheated. Don't cry for me you cheaters is more appropriate.

Cheating scum, an Argentine player also fouled an English player which won Maradona the ball and to go on and score his second goal. Ah well, he later become addicted to cocaine and was obese.

That "cheating little bastard" as you say is GOD! He IS THE TALENT!
You wish he was in the scotlish team! :p

You say taht because getting the champion title in the world cup is really non-existant, get angry with Ghana! You wish you had Maradona in your team Don Andrew! You are always getting agry with me for everything and anything!
Maradona IS GOD, he is everyone`s one, and he is YOUR GOD and doesn`t matter if you want him or nopt as yours!

To tell you the truth you should say the last english defense player tried to break Maradona`s legs and he failed! in the second one...
Drugs?
Sure, Eric Clapton, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones are so healthful people, aren`t they?
But it doesn`t matter...Maradona is GOD! And everyone who gets angry with him is because they cannot have him playing in his team!

...They've been going in and out of style
But they're guaranteed to raise a smile...

Tell him I'm an atheist.

And yes, he can be in the Scotlish team for all I care. What country are Scotlish people from?

Tell him I'm an atheist.

And yes, he can be in the Scotlish team for all I care. What country are Scotlish people from? [/b][/quote]Scotland, I thought you said once you were from Glasgow, but it`s ok. If you are from Gateshead, England, I have to believe it.
Atheist are people who don`t believe things they cannot see with their own eyes. But Maradona is a God you can see, he is for real. I`m sorry Capo, he is everyone`s god, and he is YOUR GOD too, no matter what you think or want, he is just your God and that`s out of the question! :p

“If I prayed, I’d ask God never to reveal Himself to me. Because if He did I should know that He was not God. But a liar.”

As it happens, He has revealed Himself to me, in the form of a fat little cheating Argentinian dwarf.

The difference is that Jesuscrist WAS a lair, he didn`t even exist according to science matters. That "fat little cheating Argentinian dwarf" is GOD and you feel like going mad because you wish he had played for you! It`s called envidy!

Maradona is the only God in common for every religion!

You say taht because getting the champion title in the world cup is really non-existant, get angry with Ghana! You wish you had Maradona in your team Don Andrew! You are always getting agry with me for everything and anything!
Maradona IS GOD, he is everyone`s one, and he is YOUR GOD and doesn`t matter if you want him or nopt as yours! [/b][/quote]1) Ghana has nothing to do with this. I know full well that the U.S. didn't have a snowball's chance in hell in winning the World Cup.

2) Maradona was a great player, but I don't wish he was on my team.

3) Maradona is not God. I believe in God, but he's not Maradona. Pele was better anyway.

I want to ask you something;

Do you believe Maradona cheated? Also, why do you celebrate a goal that was obviously garnered by cheating? Last time I checked, football is called football for a reason.

...They've been going in and out of style
But they're guaranteed to raise a smile... [/b][/quote]... So may I introduce to you
The act you've known for all these years..

99 out of 100 scientists agree Jesus Christus existed. He lived in Palestina some 2000 years ago.


Maradona is definitely in the top 5 of best players ever, but IMO he's behind Garrincha and Pelé.

Soccer fans. :rolleyes:

You want some trouble too? :p

At least we talk about a real sport.

1-Actually USA was playing much better than Italy, and Italy was a strong team before, I don`t know what happen with them this year.USA has Donovan, Reyna(argentinian), and other that made a good job.
2-I know you do, but you don`t want to admit it!
3-Maradona is everyone`s God, and he is YOUR GOD too. No matter what you say, that`s the fact and that`s it!If you say Pelé is better than Maradona, you don`t know ANYTHING about this life!Pelé is the KING, MARADONA IS GOD!
4-Maradona was clever enough to make the goal with his hand, Shilton was taller than him and he had ONE chance.
You are american(as far as I know), I don`t know why you seem to be angry. Yogi Barrabbas is from England and he takes this as a simple joke.
5-You have said so many times "Maradona is a drug addict", it is the only thing you can say and that`s it. Jim Morrison didn`t die for drinking water my friend! And he was a bad example to the people, he used to stop the concert after 5 minutes just because he liked to make chaos all around.
6-You attacked me so many times and I let you go.But this time, I don`t and you better cut this conversation because I am gonna be the one who will get "The last word", I am starting to hate you Don Andrew, you are always bringing yourself up in my posts.
7-It is an anniversary, not a big deal as you feel it is!

99 out of 100 scientists agree Jesus Christus existed. He lived in Palestina some 2000 years ago.


Maradona is definitely in the top 5 of best players ever, but IMO he's behind Garrincha and Pelé. [/b][/quote]Bullshit, scientists have an agreement. They cannot believe in things they cannot see. Pelé is the king and Maradona is GOD. Tony Morisete says he thinks Maradona is better than Pelé!

Don't bet on that. Calm down, Pappo.

Don't bet on that. Calm down, Pappo. [/b][/quote]I know SC, I´m sorry. But "this" Don Andrew is always attacking me every time I say "A". I let him go so many times. But this time he got me nuts, he would be the one who should cooperate now...He said so many thing I could disagree with him but I never said anything, and he does all the time...

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To tell you the truth you should say the last english defense player tried to break Maradona`s legs and he failed! in the second one...
Drugs?
Sure, Eric Clapton, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones are so healthful people, aren`t they?
But it doesn`t matter...Maradona is GOD! And everyone who gets angry with him is because they cannot have him playing in his team! [/b][/quote]That England team had conceded 9 goals in their last 10 games before that match, it wasn't like he scored against the Italy back four of 1970 was it? And what have Musicians got to do with Maradona? Maradona was a footballer who acted in a very unprofessional way, pele was better, his goal to game ratio is one per game.

And as for Scientists not believing in what they cannot see, I suppose they don't believe Oxygen exists then?

Is that Nadsat for "envisage"?

I wonder if Alex Delarge was a fan of Maradona.

Maradonna is God in your Eyes and the argentinain people,nobody else

What about!

Iain Dowie
Jason Lee
Tony Daley

Now they was Players

They was what? Football players?

Yeah they played in The top tier of english Football(soccer)

I got you SC

You cannot see the oxygen but you can breath it, you cannot see love but you can feel it. Oxygen doesn`t have anything to do with religion... religion is just a stuff from people who are believers and that`s it. It doesn`t mean God, Jesuschrist or whatever existed. But Maradona DOES!

You said Maradona is a drug addict, well, those musicians don`t drink water my friend!

Maradona was champion in 1986 and got the second title in 1990, that is not little thing. Pelé was better? I am sorry to say this but...you know nothing about football, soccer or whatever you want to call this game... :p

Is that Nadsat for "envisage"?

I wonder if Alex Delarge was a fan of Maradona. [/b][/quote]EVERYBODY!

You DON`T UNDERSTAND De Niro! Maradona is everyone`s god, and he is YOUR GOD and that`s it.

As far as I know Jason Lee still plays. I almost didn't recognise him when he came to Scunny when he played for Boston. Don't know where he is now though, I think he's been released.

You cannot see the oxygen but you can breath it, you cannot see love but you can feel it. Oxygen doesn`t have anything to do with religion... religion is just a stuff from people who are believers and that`s it. It doesn`t mean God, Jesuschrist or whatever existed. But Maradona DOES!

You said Maradona is a drug addict, well, those musicians don`t drink water my friend!

Maradona was champion in 1986 and got the second title in 1990, that is not little thing. Pelé was better? I am sorry to say this but...you know nothing about football, soccer or whatever you want to call this game... :p [/b][/quote]You've missed the point some what, and it appears you have 'Maradona is God' as your whole argument. Pele was better because as an out and out striker he could do anything, he once took the ball past a goalkeeper without even touching it.


The best player in the world turned into that? No.

As far as I know Jason Lee still plays. I almost didn't recognise him when he came to Scunny when he played for Boston. Don't know where he is now though, I think he's been released. [/b][/quote]Jason Lee has just signed for my local Team Notts County on a free,could be a useful signing

He is thiner now! So what if he is fater or thiner?However, fater or thiner, he IS THE BEST. Remeber he skkiped 5 english players in his second goal. Pelé was unable to do it by himself! Pelé had 10 good players to help him. Maradona was the 11 players in ONE!!!!



Here is GOD smiling for you, Scarface!



With Robbie Williams at Manchester United's Old Trafford Stadium in Manchester, England. It`s the Soccer Aid Charity soccer match.


HE IS LOVED EVEN IN ENGLAND!!!

God Maradona bless you, Scarface!

Pelé scored 1281 goals in 1375 games.
Maradona 246 goals in 530 games.

If I disagree with you and say that Pele is better, I know nothing about football? How stupid and close minded are you?

Maradona is not my God. You do not get to decide who my God is. My God is not Maradona you stupid fuck.

But to be fair, Don Andrew, you know nothing about religion.

Who's your god?

At least we talk about a real sport. [/b][/quote]I'll give recognition that soccer is an international sport, but the fan reaction is in some cases maniacal. It's a sport! Not a reason for mayhem. Hundreds of English supporters were arrested in Germany. Relax. Enjoy the competition. It's not a reason for testosterone-letting.

Please define "real sport". To me "real sport" is one played or contested without objects (like balls) or judges (like gymnastics). Real sports are foot races, swimming races, boxing matches (knockouts) or wrestling matches. The more boundaries and judges you have, the less it is a sport and the more it is a contest or exhibition.

Pelé scored 1281 goals in 1375 games.
Maradona 246 goals in 530 games. [/b][/quote]Scoring goals doesn´t mean you are the best player. I told you, Pelé had good players to help him, so he could score many goals because he had the work done thanks to them. Maradona had to play ALONE. And Maradona scored goals in a way Pelé didn´t and skipped many players much better than Pelé. Pelé needed help and he was helped by his mates. Maradona didn´t need it, if he did or didn´t it doesn´t matter, Maradona did everything by himself. He did everything ALONE in the soccer field.

Of course you don´t know about football. Pelé could never be better than Maradona.
And yes, he IS your GOD!
Maradona bless you!
SC...what about some "aggressive manners" like this? :rolleyes:

In the Holland-Portugal match, there wasn´t "fair play". 4 players were sent off. It looked like a Karate tournament instead of Scoccer.

SC...what about some "aggressive manners" like this? :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]Were the rolleyes meant for me??

Don Andrew - that kind of comment is inexcusable here. No matter what the provocation you simply can't say that on the boards.

Don Pappo - you may want to tone down your brow-beating here. I've never heard of this soccer player until I read your posts, and he sure as hell isn't MY god. You made your point about how much you love this guy but stop beating a dead horse already.

It was the fault of the referee. He drew too many cards. They players didn't really play in a karate manner, they just played nasty (winning time, kicking balls away when the others had a free kick, ...)

Who's your god?[/b] [/quote]Missed my point, gents. If by saying Pelé is better than Maradona, we know nothing about football, then denying Maradona as our God means we know nothing about religion.

Perhaps a smiley might help to cushion sarcasm.

Ah, I see.

Well Done! You got the point!