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Posted By: Don Sicilia
Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 02:16 PM
Welcome to the 2005-2006 Gangster BB Yahoo Fantasy Football League!
The live draft will be on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 at 7 PM Eastern time.As we've discussed, this league will be a hybrid head-to-head/points-system league. Weeks 1 - 13 will be the regular season for Head-to-Head and Points-based. After Week 13, a points-based champion will be crowned and will get a "Top of the Gangster BB Sports Page" designation (if it's OK with JG, that is). Weeks 14, 15 and 16 will be the playoffs for the top 6 finishers of the Head-to-Head regular season and a champion will be crowned at the end of Week 16.
It is on Yahoo, so you have to get a Yahoo ID and password before joining.
To get to the league, click on:
Yahoo Fantasy Football Go to "Join a Custom League".
League ID #: REGISTRATION CLOSED
League Password:
The league will have 14 spots - first come, first serve. Anybody can join.
If you got any questions, post or PM me.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 02:45 PM
I'm in.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
The league will have 15 spots - first come, first serve. Anybody can join......
Weeks 1 - 14 will be the regular season for Head-to-Head and Points-based. After Week 14, a points-based champion will be crowned and will get a "Top of the Gangster BB Sports Page" designation (if it's OK with JG, that is). Weeks 15 and 16 will be the playoffs for the top 4 finishers of the Head-to-Head regular season and a champion will be crowned at the end of Week 16.
I'm in.
But I thought we were gonna have 14 teams and a 13 week balanced schedule
If there are 15 teams and everyone plays everyone else once, then one team will have a bye every week, and it will take 15 weeks to complete the regular season schedule, which moves the playoffs back to weeks 16 & 17.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 02:56 PM
See what I added to my post above.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 03:04 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
See what I added to my post above.
Good point... I've made changes accordingly.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 04:12 PM
I'm in. *first time I've HAD to say that lol*
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 04:21 PM
DB.....I noticed that you changed the playoffs from four teams to six. How is that gonna work?
Nos. 3, 4, 5, and 6 play a wild card game in week 14 with the top two teams getting a bye, then four teams left for week 15, and the championship game week 16?
Also, I don't see your team in there DM.....
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 04:29 PM
yeah I'm at work, having problems getting in
I'll do it tonight.
I spoke prematurely about being in **double doors wide open**
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 04:32 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
DB.....I noticed that you changed the playoffs from four teams to six. How is that gonna work?
Nos. 3, 4, 5, and 6 play a wild card game in week 14 with the top two teams getting a bye, then four teams left for week 15, and the championship game week 16?
Yep... That's how it works.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 04:36 PM
Sounds good.
The more teams in the playoffs, the less of a chance of one of the really high scoring teams getting screwed, too.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 04:40 PM
just so I'm clear here, week 17 isn't played because so many stars sit out? or is there another reason?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 04:54 PM
That's right DMC - results from Week 17 aren't generally used fantasy-wise because many stars sit out that week preparing for the playoffs.
Posted By: Freddie C.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 05:41 PM
I'm in
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 07:21 PM
I'm in.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 08:22 PM
Can old chicks play? Or is this only opened to those under 25 years of age?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 08:38 PM
Great! We have the original Thelma and Louise playing in the game.
And we got DMC in the game too.
Plaw can say all he wants, but I'm the real "Chick Recruiter". :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Plaw can say all he wants, but I'm the real "Chick Recruiter". :p
I'v said that all along.
You're the only one who can get Louise (Buffy) to come out of hiding. You DA MAN!!!!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 09:08 PM
Buffy's gonna play?
And Crabby, too?
I'm proud of you, DB. You
are the man.
All we need now is the Big Daddy Wuss.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 09:11 PM
Im in
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 09:44 PM
I've been adding all y'all to my YIM buddy list, so please approve me next time you get on...
I'm hardly ever on YIM, but will if y'all start yappin' trash talk on there!
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/20/05 11:08 PM
It's on like Donkey Kong biatch!
Posted By: The Iceman
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/21/05 03:49 AM
Count me in as well.
Posted By: Tony Love
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/21/05 04:21 AM
I'm in, I'm "tnylve"
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/21/05 02:36 PM
I'm on right now, and yes, I added you, Geoff.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/21/05 09:31 PM
Yeah I'm in. 12 midnight draft, not bad. Could've been worse. I think last years was a late one for me. Hey at least I arrived on time... eh DJ? :p
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 01:45 AM
Yes, except it seemed like you bastards changed the time whilst I was at work/school so I had no idea we moved it back by 15-30 mins.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 06:59 AM
We have three people who say they're in (DMC, Iceman, and JB), two unidentified teams (Najeh Crappenport and Stormriders), and two unidentified owners (csaflag1861 and john_paxson25).
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 08:19 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
We have...two unidentified teams (Najeh Crappenport
That's JB...
Cont'd by plawrence:
and Stormriders)
... and that's Iceman.
DMC is the only unaccounted-for wuss.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 12:26 PM
That's what happens to me. My work has all these kinds of sites blocked on our computers. I just hope my home computer doesn't decide to act up come draft day.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 01:38 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
(csaflag1861 and john_paxson25).
I bet you can't guess which yahoo id is mine. I'll give you a hint, I'm a Bulls fan from the North whose mom and sister are actually two different people.
I'm just kidding Iceman. I just thought your id would have been Val_Kilmer4Life.
Posted By: Spike716
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 06:33 PM
I'm in.
Spicy Chicken Wings, ready to give everyone a dose of agita.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 06:34 PM
I'm in!
Posted By: zo
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 06:57 PM
ummm unfortunately it looks like im not in....is there a way i could get in...maybe add 2 more teams to the league? please
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 07:25 PM
Plaw... PM is full, Mr. Popular.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/22/05 07:57 PM
Well, I'm a novelist now.
Posted By: The Iceman
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/23/05 04:37 AM
To clarify things a bit yes like our don stated earlier my team is Stormriders, and I'm csaflag1861
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/23/05 11:32 PM
when is the draft order decided?
If you can help it DB you should make it earlier rather than later so people can alter their strategies accordingly.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/24/05 12:42 PM
I think the draft order is randomly decided 15 minutes before the draft begins. If there was any fairness, those who finished last in the standings last year (
) would get the first picks, and so on. New people pick last.
Edit:
League Notes
* The draft order will be randomly determined approximately 30 minutes before the draft begins.
Right on the League homepage.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/25/05 08:38 PM
DJ correctly put it, RB. Usually, Yahoo sets the order 30 minutes before the draft starts. However, if there is a great demand for it, I have the option of setting the draft order manually. If people wanted, I could do my own randomization in advance of when the computer does it.
My feeling is 30 minutes is more than enough time to plan your strategy. At least it's never been a problem for me. If others feel differently, let me know.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/25/05 08:51 PM
I should get the #1 pick for finishing at the bottom last year.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/25/05 08:53 PM
I say let the league pick the draft order. I feel strongly that most of the people here are serious enough players that they are probably tweaking their strategy now. They will go into the draft already knowing their lead picks, along with 2nd and 3rd choices.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/25/05 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Double-J:
I should get the #1 pick for finishing at the bottom last year. You only finished so low because you came to draft late.
JG, on the other hand, had no excuse. :p
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 07/26/05 02:45 AM
Mmm, I will give my firstborn son for Willis McGahee, unless I can get Peyton Manning first.
Posted By: zo
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/03/05 04:42 PM
yaaay! im in....thanks don sicilia...o yea...heads up guys...im a pro hahaha....ive been playing fantasy for like 10 years now....good luck to everyone hahaha
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/03/05 04:54 PM
Uh oh, Zo's a pro... We can officially be scared.
:p
Barring any comings and goings
(insert DMC joke here), here are the first week matchups:
PL (Plaw) vs DB (Douche Bigelow) - Classic Matchup
DM (DMC) vs DJ (Double-J) - Battle of the right-wingers
SP (Spike) vs FC (Freddie) - Young'uns
TU (Turi) vs JG (Da Don aka Pork) - The Brit Turi likes to call JG a Minute Man
TL (Tony Love) vs JB (Jimmy Buffer) - Battle of New comers
IM (Iceman) vs LD (LDV aka Buffy) - Iceman looking to cool league's only chick
ZO (Zo) vs RB (Raggingbull) - 10-year Pro vs Skydiver
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/03/05 04:58 PM
Originally posted by zo:
yaaay! im in....thanks don sicilia...o yea...heads up guys...im a pro hahaha....ive been playing fantasy for like 10 years now....good luck to everyone hahaha
Playing? or playing well?
:p
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/04/05 12:45 AM
Pssht, how can I compete with the guy who has the best balls around?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/10/05 02:55 PM
I guess the league is full, and we don't need a sticky on this anymore.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/12/05 11:47 AM
I think it should be sticky simply because we're going to be discussing things throughout the season, so wouldn't it make sense to keep it up there?
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/12/05 12:02 PM
If we're discussing stuff it'll be at the top anyway.
No! You shut up!!!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/12/05 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Double-J:
I think it should be sticky simply because we're going to be discussing things throughout the season, so wouldn't it make sense to keep it up there?
Baseball isn't stickied and it always finds its way to the top
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/17/05 06:37 PM
Just a reminder, the live draft will be on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 at 7 PM Eastern time.
Now nobody miss it [cough]Double-J[/cough]! :p
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/18/05 12:04 AM
To quote Dave Chappelle...
motherfucker.
Posted By: Freddie C.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/23/05 06:17 PM
The wait til the draft is killing me! I've been doing some mock drafts at work.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/29/05 12:01 AM
LDV dropped out???
Now what??
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/29/05 12:06 AM
She asked me to take her place, but the league is closed and I can't register. Let me know the leaque ID name and password and I'll take her place.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/29/05 12:11 AM
League is #186866 but I don't recall the password. I suppose the Commish could PM you with that...
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/29/05 12:31 AM
Mmm, I can't wait. Damn you all if I don't get Willis, you bastards. If I get Tomlinson or Manning, I will trade for McGahee
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/29/05 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Double-J:
Damn you all if I don't get Willis, you bastards. If I get Tomlinson or Manning, I will trade for McGahee McGahee just rose to the top of my draft list then. :p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/29/05 12:35 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Double-J:
[b]Damn you all if I don't get Willis, you bastards. If I get Tomlinson or Manning, I will trade for McGahee McGahee just rose to the top of my draft list then. :p
[/b][/quote]hah I don't necessarily WANT McGahee but I think I'm just going to take him now lol
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/30/05 10:02 AM
You should keep your cards close to chest Double J.
Anyway, I'm going for Emmit Smith.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/30/05 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Anyway, I'm going for Emmit Smith.
Why, so that you can trade him for Jerry Rice later?
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/30/05 01:53 PM
Pssht, everyone knew I was a McGahee mark since last season.
Besides, I'd probably trade for Losman just to have another Bill on my roster (btw - Geoff you can keep Bledsoe :p ).
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 07:38 AM
I can't help but feel a bit nervous that DB hasn't been around a while - and the draft is today!
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 09:44 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I can't help but feel a bit nervous that DB hasn't been around a while - and the draft is today! Yeah that's my fault. I told him the draft has been postponed until next week. Sucker.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] I can't help but feel a bit nervous that DB hasn't been around a while - and the draft is today! Yeah that's my fault. I told him the draft has been postponed until next week. Sucker. [/b][/quote]This may result in chaos and anarchy. There may be biting scratching, punches being thrown, name calling.
But enough about me....what would you guys do if DB wasn't around? Just as long as you all don't fight over the same Johnson.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 01:14 PM
Bad news for me. I've just come online to pre rank my players because I may not be able to make tonight (which I've been looking forward to for a long time especially since my other Yahoo fantasy game was a boring automated draft). I hope I can make it but if not I'll be whining like Double J was last year because I'll end up with a shite team. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 02:25 PM
OK guys... sorry to be MIA, but now I'm back. As a reminder:
The live draft will be today, Wednesday, August 31, 2005 at 7 PM Eastern time.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 02:27 PM
Good to see you, Commish.
JG was worried about you.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 07:50 PM
FYI, here is the scoring for our league.
Stat Categories: Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (6)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (3)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (1)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (0)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-3)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-6)
Posted By: Freddie C.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 07:50 PM
I might not be able to make the draft tonight! I have rush social at a fraternity that I might be pledging. I don't know what time it starts yet.
Would I be allowed to have a friend draft for me?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 08:05 PM
You can pre-rank your picks just in case...
My question is, if I were to pre-rank my picks, can I still override those live? I don't want a thunderstorm to come in and cause me to shut down in the middle of it; but can I pre-rank and still override during the draft?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 08:43 PM
FC - Like JG said, you could always prerank your players. With that said, I don't have any problem with a friend drafting for you. Two things...
1 - He better not be obnoxious.
2 - No complaining later on in the year when you are in 10th place because of a bad draft. :p
Just kidding with ya, FC. Good luck tonight.
JG - You can always override a pre-rank list during a live draft. It's up to you who you choose, list or not. However, if your computer locks you out somehow, yahoo will choose from your list.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Bad news for me. I've just come online to pre rank my players because I may not be able to make tonight (which I've been looking forward to for a long time especially since my other Yahoo fantasy game was a boring automated draft). I hope I can make it but if not I'll be whining like Double J was last year because I'll end up with a shite team. :p
Try to make it Turi. If not, I'll log on as you and choose an all-Steelers team. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 09:25 PM
Is it better to pre-rank or not. I've made a pre-rank roster, but now I'm thinking maybe I should just kill that.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 09:49 PM
I need help, can someone tell me what yahoo ID I used to sign up?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 09:58 PM
:p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:02 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
:p Great now everyone knows my yahoo ID, you could have stuck to the message board user agreement and private messaged me with it.
Now I must go change my identity.
HOLA Mis amigos, I am Pablo Guzman lol
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:07 PM
Sorry, wasn't thinking...
But I doubt
everyone saw it. :rolleyes:
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:09 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Sorry, wasn't thinking...
But I doubt everyone saw it. :rolleyes: Hold on did you take me seriously?
It was just said to be funny since I got a lashing when I posted DB's name lol
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:12 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
It was just said to be funny since I got a lashing...
I would have thought you enjoyed that... :p
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Is it better to pre-rank or not. I've made a pre-rank roster, but now I'm thinking maybe I should just kill that.
Dunno. It killed me last year when the draft got moved back, and I didn't come in until 15 minutes later. I put players higher on the chart so I wouldn't forget them if they were available late, though some (McGahee, Lee Evans) turned out to be good, I could've had much better picks.
Basically, if you show up, you'll be fine, Bethie.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:20 PM
Bada bada bada bada bada.........Bing
Phew it was a close one but I'm here. Suckers. Thought you'd be doing this without me. It's nearly 11.30pm and I'm sober.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:27 PM
get on yahoo :p
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:33 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
get on yahoo :p
I'm on the yahoo web page, are you talking about some chat or something? Just seen the draft order, I like it. Anyway I remember last year we had a seperate pop up window for the draft. How do I get that up?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:34 PM
go ot the main page and there is a link to "enter live draft"
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 10:45 PM
15 MINS EVERYONE! GET YOUR ASSES IN THE DRAFT ROOM BY CLICKING ON 'ENTER LIVE DRAFT' (you may have to refresh the page on yahoo)
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 08/31/05 11:07 PM
I have to apologize. I ran the test a long time ago and everything worked just fine. I've done at least 50 online drafts on yahoo throughout the year, but that was in my old apartment. I didn't even think to test it out in my new one and the firewall is blocking the online draft tool. I guess I'll just to have to sink and swim with the players yahoo picks for me. I really don't give a shit either way since there isn't money involved so winning is irrelevent, but I just wanted to let you guys know why I wasn't there.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 12:53 AM
Good draft and Good night people. I'm going to need a lot of coffee in four hours time.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 04:01 AM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Good draft and Good night people. I'm going to need a lot of coffee in four hours time.
I could have given birth in less time :rolleyes:
What in the world were some of you doing????
Posted By: The Iceman
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 05:34 AM
Man oh man did I ever get a sh*t team. Jake Plumber & Patrick Ramsey as my 2 QB's
And here I was complaining when I got Mark Bulger & Drew Brees on one of my other fantasy teams. Man compared to Jake Plumber & Patrick Ramsey, Mark Bulger & Drew Brees are Joe Montana & Dan Marino in their prime.
This season I'll
And no I did not participate in the draft. Since I work nights.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 06:48 AM
I'll listen to offers for anyone on my team.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 07:48 AM
At the risk of jinxing my season...
I like this year's roster better than last year's!
QB Bulger, Griese
RB Dillon, McAllister, KFaulk
WR DJackson, Mason, KJohnson, McCardell, Gardner
TE Franks, Troupe
K Vinatieri, Rackers
DT Pats, Giants
Not tremendous, but, still not that bad... at least for being 12th pick of 14 teams...
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 12:10 PM
QB Brooks, Boller
RB Julius Jones, Larry Johnson, Mewelde Moore
WR RMoss, JWalker, SSmith, DPatten, BWade
TE Heap, Clark
K Reed, Scobee
DT Eagles, Dolphins
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 01:09 PM
At first I was a lil disapointed with how the draft was going, but overall I am pretty pleased with my team. I dont have a whole lot big name superstars, but I feel like I have a really ballanced and solid team.
QB Michael Vick
RB Kevin Jones
RB Chris Brown
WR Anquan Boldin
WR Deion Branch (Ive got a big feeling about him this year)
WR Donte Stalworth
TE Jeremy Shockey
K Mike Vanderjagt
DEF Chigago
If anybody is interested in some trades, I am looking for an elite reciever, so dont be shy with the offers.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 01:38 PM
Mmm, I was both pleased and disappointed, I waited too long to draft a WR, but oh well. I still have Bruce and Houshmanzedah and Burress (I hope Manning has a good year, but I didn't take him as a QB), though I wanted to get Lee Evans.
I did manage to get Willis though
QB T. Brady
WR I. Bruce
WR T. Houshmandzadeh
WR P. Burress
RB W. McGahee
RB B. Westbrook
TE A. Crumpler
K S. Janikowski
DEF Baltimore
If anyone would like to trade, I'd be willing to dip into my pool of WR's for a decent starting RB.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 01:43 PM
Considering I only have like one person I really wanted my team is hopeless. I'll probably be earning the name Basement Bethie again this year.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Considering I only have like one person I really wanted my team is hopeless. I'll probably be earning the name Basement Bethie again this year.
Could we have a list of which member is which team? Cause I'm not sure which team you are, Bethie
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 04:34 PM
I don't know who half the people in this league are. But I'm Buffy's Proxy. Here's my roster.
Daunte Culpepper - QB
Brandon Stokley - WR
Joey Galloway - WR
T. Glenn - WR
R. Johnson - RB (Just because every girl should have at least one Johnson)
W. Dunn - RB
Tony Gonzalez - TE
J. Wilkens - K
Atl- Def
M. Hasselbeck - QB
L.J Smith - TE
M. Booker - WR
R. Ferguson - WR
M. Shipp - RB
Cinc - DEF
J. Kasay - K
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 06:08 PM
Here's the list of team names, owners (abbreviations)
- Scunthorpe Steelers - Turi (TU)
- Brotherly Love - Tony Love (TL)
- Chicken Wings - Spike (SP)
- DMC - DMC (DM)
- Buffy's Proxy - Beth E (CC)
- zorriffic - Zo (ZO)
- Stormriders - Iceman (IM)
- RB's Giants - Raggingbull (RB)
- Buffalo Clash - Double-J (DJ)
- Black Car Drivers - Plaw (PL)
- Playaz Football Club - Freddie C. (FC)
- Jersey 69ers - JG (JG)
- Najeh Crappenport - Jimmy Buffer (JB)
- Douche Bigelow - Don Sicilia (DB)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 07:35 PM
Our first trade of the year folks...
PL gets Rudi Johnson (RB - Cin) and Tony Gonzalez (TE - KC).
Bethie gets Laveranues Coles (WR - Was), Priest Holmes (RB - KC) and Randy McMichael (TE - Miami) and drops Terry Glenn (WR - Dal).
This gives us a good chance to go over my trade policy. Trades will stay pending for 2 days. During those 2 days, anyone in the league can vote against the trade (where I think if 5 people vote against it, the trade is vetoed).
I will only overturn trades in 2 scenarios, regardless of what the votes say:
1 - I am somehow convinced that an accident occurred in an accepted trade.
2 - If a trade is seriously, I mean seriously, out of whack - e.g. Peyton Manning for Kyle Orton. Usually, there's collusion if a trade like this goes down.
Other than that, the votes rule. This means it's that much more important that everyone stays current and checks either the board or the yahoo page on a consistent basis.
Feel free to post your feelings about the trades, but remember, the votes count.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 07:40 PM
As for the Plaw-Bethie trade...
Very one-sided to plaw's favor. I'm especially disappointed since I have to face plaw in Week 1.
Although Priest is slightly better than Rudi, Priest is a huge injury concern. That leaves Tony Gonzalez vs. Coles and McMichael. Ummmmmm...
Very early in the season so who knows.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 07:41 PM
doesn't that mean Bethie has to drop someone?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 07:43 PM
I dropped Terry Glenn.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/01/05 07:45 PM
Hey, the basement apartment needs a good cleaning, what can I say.
Besides, he initially wanted Culpepper. And that, I could not do.
Posted By: Tony Love
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/02/05 12:38 AM
I kind of missed the draft. I don't think I'll be pursuing this league.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/02/05 12:55 AM
Commish? :rolleyes:
My opinion: You can't just abandon your team like that as there are 13 other people in the league depending on you. Not everyone made the draft, but they're playing - because they gave their word that they would. What if someone wanted to make a trade w/ someone on your roster?
At the very least check it each week for injuries and make sure you have all the roster spots taken up with the best options. Cuz otherwise it just wouldn't be fair to the rest of us.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/02/05 01:01 AM
maybe I'm missing something here but you got a pretty damn good team, it's head to head so you would really disrupt the league by not playing.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/02/05 11:42 PM
Trade #2
Plaw gets Andre Johnson (WR - Hou) and Patrick Ramsey (QB - Was)
Iceman gets Santana Moss (WR - Was) and Eli Manning (QB - NYG)
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/03/05 02:53 AM
How long does it take from when someone drops a player before you can claim him?
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/03/05 12:49 PM
My team looks good at the top of the table.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/05/05 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Double-J:
How long does it take from when someone drops a player before you can claim him?
Immediately, I believe.
The delay here is because of our 48 hour waiting period for trades to become official.
Posted By: Tony Love
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/05/05 04:13 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
My opinion: You can't just abandon your team like that as there are 13 other people in the league depending on you. Not everyone made the draft, but they're playing - because they gave their word that they would. What if someone wanted to make a trade w/ someone on your roster?
I understand. Good point. I didn't know that I would still get a team if I missed the draft. I didn't quite understand how I could get players which I didn't choose. Either way, I'll continue to be active in this league. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/05/05 04:43 PM
Thanks, Tony!
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Double-J:
[b] How long does it take from when someone drops a player before you can claim him?
Immediately, I believe.[/b][/quote]No, there is a waiver delay as well so people can't collude by bypassing the official trading method. That's why there's a waiver ranking.
Originally posted by plawrence:
The delay here is because of our 48 hour waiting period for trades to become official.
That's what a meant about the 48 hours.
You can
claim the player immediately, but you have to wait 48 hours for him to officially become yours.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/06/05 03:40 AM
Trade Update
TL gets Brett Favre (QB - GB) and Jimmy Smith (WR - Jac).
JB gets Carson Palmer (QB - Cin) and Chad Johnson (WR - Cin).
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/06/05 03:51 AM
Commish Alert
As I thought about the Trade rules over the weekend, I realized that Yahoo has changed its rules (at least, I think they did). I previously thought that a 2/3's majority in voting will decide whether a trade goes through or not but going by Yahoo, it only takes a 1/3 vote to overturn a trade (in our league, that would be 5 votes).
Because of this change, I think the best way to handle trades is through the Commish's office. Generally, I will let trades go through unless the following three scenarios arise:
1 - I am somehow convinced that an accident occurred in an accepted trade.
2 - If a trade is seriously, I mean seriously, out of whack. Usually, there's collusion if a trade like this goes down.
3 - There is an overwhelming response against the trade by people posting here on the GBB. By overwhelming, if a good majority post with credible objections to the trade, I will overturn it.
Sorry for the confusion. In my opinion, Yahoo's 1/3 rule, although created to prevent trade collusion, could actually cause trade block collusion.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/07/05 06:12 PM
Trade Update
PL gets Reche Caldwell (WR - SD)
DJ gets Jerome Bettis (RB - Pit)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 03:51 PM
First Week starts today. Unlike other unsophisticated games (
), players aren't locked into their roster positions in our league until their games start. That means you can continue to make changes all the way until game time (I'd give it a 10 minute window before games start just to make sure).
The season kicks off today with Oakland vs. New England.
Without further ado, our week one matchups:
Buffalo Clash (DJ) v. Zorrific (ZO)
Chicken Wings (SP) v. Jersey69ers (JG)
Buffy's Proxy (CC) v. Stormriders (IM)
Black Car Drivers (PL) v. Douche Bigelow (DB)
Scunthorpe Steelers (TU) v. Najeh Crappenport (JB)
DMC (DM) v. Playaz Football Club (FC)
Brotherly Love (TL) v. RB's Giants (RB)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
First Week starts today. Unlike other unsophisticated games ( ), players aren't locked into their roster positions in our league until their games start. That means you can continue to make changes all the way until game time And you just
had to remind people didn't you. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 04:12 PM
That's what a Commish is for! :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
That's what a Commish is for! :p
One exception: double headers.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 04:20 PM
Or telling people when a player is injured and your opponent has him on their roster.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 06:22 PM
Head to head games are different.
There are times when it works to your advantage to share info with other players.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 06:24 PM
If I'm playing a guy who has Pearless Price and PP gets in a car accident, or should get hung in his jail cell, or get hit by a bolt of lightening, and my opponent has him on his roster.....guess what I'm doing.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
First Week starts today. Unlike other unsophisticated games ( ), players aren't locked into their roster positions in our league until their games start. That means you can continue to make changes all the way until game time (I'd give it a 10 minute window before games start just to make sure).
The season kicks off today with Oakland vs. New England.
Without further ado, our week one matchups:
PL (Plaw) vs DB (Douche Bigelow) - Classic Matchup
DM (DMC) vs DJ (Double-J) - Battle of the right-wingers
SP (Spike) vs FC (Freddie) - Young'uns
TU (Turi) vs JG (Da Don aka Pork) - The Brit Turi likes to call JG a Minute Man
TL (Tony Love) vs JB (Jimmy Buffer) - Battle of newbies (in our league at least)
IM (Iceman) vs CC (Bethie) - Iceman looking to cool league's only chick
ZO (Zo) vs RB (Raggingbull) - 10-year Pro vs Skydiver Umm...those aren't the matchups I'm seeing on the screen, commish...
I've got:
Buffalo Clash (Double-J) v. Zorrific (Zo)
Chicken Wings (Spike) v. Jersey69ers (Geoff)
Buffy's Proxy (Beth E) v. Stormriders (The Iceman)
Black Car Drivers (Plaw) v. Douche Bigelow (DS)
Scunthorpe Steelers (Turi) v. Najeh Crappenport (Jimmy Buffer)
DMC (DMC) v. Playaz Football Club (Freddy)
Brotherly Love (Tony Love) v. RB's Giants (RB)
So you might have to do your "predictions" and analysis over again.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 07:15 PM
Weird... That's what they were about 2 weeks ago.
Thanks for pointing it out!
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 07:21 PM
No problem. I thought I was wrong for a minute, cause I've been planning on matching up with Zo all week, and then when I heard I was facing DMC, I was like "wtf"
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 07:30 PM
I think what happened was that the order got rejiggered when LDV left the league and Bethie took her spot.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I think what happened was that the order got rejiggered when LDV left the league and Bethie took her spot.
It's always the chick's fault. :p
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 08:57 PM
Wouldn't have it any other way...
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/08/05 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Double-J:
No problem. I thought I was wrong for a minute, cause I've been planning on matching up with Zo all week, and then when I heard I was facing DMC, I was like "wtf" so "wtf" is how you kids say scared shitless? :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 12:07 AM
Who else is watching The Stones on the Football kick off show. What's the last lyric to "Start me up"? You make a dead man...what? I missed that.
Why the f*ck is Freddie Prinze Jr hosting the show? When I think of football his wimpy ass is the last thing I think of.
Posted By: Big Daddy Don
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 12:51 AM
Ten minutes to kick-off of the 2005 NFL season and we all know what the means ......
Big Daddy is in DA House and giving a big shout out to all his Peeps .... First piece of business .... the trade of
PL gets Rudi Johnson (RB - Cin) and Tony Gonzalez (TE - KC).
Bethie gets Laveranues Coles (WR - Was), Priest Holmes (RB - KC) and Randy McMichael (TE - Miami) and drops Terry Glenn (WR - Dal).
I vote NO :p
As you were Peeps ....
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 12:54 AM
Bad Daddy is in DA House! I feel touched.
I had to give plawrence his Johnson. You know how men are about these things.
I vote someone go to Turi's roster while he is sleeping and steal me a Man-ning.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 02:46 AM
3 players, and 6 whole points at halftime. :rolleyes: 7
yards from Dillon - WTF? Bad start to a loooooong season. :rolleyes:
Edit: I knew my patented Anti-Jinx™ would work! Dillon TD!
But umm... 'tieri missed an extra point kick??? :rolleyes:
Edit: Another Dillon TD, and, 'tieri made the pat
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 04:05 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[b]Trade Update
TL gets Brett Favre (QB - GB) and Jimmy Smith (WR - Jac).
JB gets Carson Palmer (QB - Cin) and Chad Johnson (WR - Cin). [/b]
So does this trade go into effect this week? Cause as some people like to say in other threads, if the trade was made long before the roster deadline, but didn't get officially approved until after week 1, I would hate to win in such tainted circumstances. Whoever gets the better of this deal obviously did so because of their superior football intellect and we wouldn't want that advantage to get short-changed in the standings. Simple things like league rules shouldn't stand in the way of determining who wins a league.
Edit DRUNK POST!
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 04:24 AM
Never mind. I went to check the answer myself and, despite the fact my lineup was set, once the trade took effect since favre and smith were no longer in my lineup due to the trade, I am without a qb and a wr this week. What a dipshit I am for having a job. I now realize I can much better serve society by sitting at my computer stroking my penis and waiting for my trade to be approved. Setting my lineup on Wednesday night when the dealine is Thursday is obviously a rookie mistake on my part. I have learned my lesson and will now live on welfare for the remainder of my days in order to ensure that my lineup is set despite last minute changes. After all, the zero dollars I earn if I win this league will more than make up for the waste of my college education. KMart cashier is a very noble profession.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 04:32 AM
Well I'm waiting for all the Christian Conservatives to come and tell me to shape up or ship out. It's only 12:31 on the east coast. I'm sure there is still quality programming on EWTN that has some of you up late. Please come chastize me and put me in my place. After all, what kind of a person would actually pay attention to his students all day long, then commit himself to coaching duties when there is the possibility that a fantasy trade you made three days ago might finally take effect the morning of the games. And to think I placed six year olds before myself! That definately doesn't fall in line with No Child Left Behind standards! I should be disgraced!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 06:01 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
[b]Edit DRUNK POST! [/b]
No shit. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 06:14 AM
I'd post tonight's results, but, 1) I don't feel like looking up who's who, and, 2) I'm not the commish of this game. :p
But will say that I am 3 pts behind in my "projected" score... and only have 6 players left...
But bring it on, Chicken Wings! I could use a spicy Sunday snack :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 01:58 PM
JB... So young... So much sarcasm... :p
Honestly though... Is anyone on this board really giving you a hard time about being up to speed fantasy-wise? I'm just confused about the sarcasm in your last few posts.
Also, your trade was effected yesterday and a particular player's roster position will not lock until his game starts (e.g. You can put Carson Palmer in at QB up until his Sunday game starts or if you decide to pass up on Palmer, you can put Harrington in at QB up until his later game starts).
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 02:00 PM
Week 1 Matchups--------------------------
PL 0 (9 players left)
DB 5 (8 players left)
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ZO 0 (9 players left)
DJ 19 (7 players left)
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DM 12 (8 players left)
FC 23 (6 players left)
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SP 0 (9 players left)
JG 25 (6 players left)
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TU 1 (8 players left)
JB 0 (9 players left)
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TL 0 (9 players left)
RB 10 (8 players left)
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CC 0 (9 players left)
IM 0 (9 players left)
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Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
JB... So young... So much sarcasm...
I give the guy credit for being able to write well, at least.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 03:07 PM
DB can you put in parentheses (I can't spell) how many people each team has left to play
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/09/05 03:29 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
DB can you put in parentheses (I can't spell) how many people each team has left to play
Edited above...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 05:33 PM
Priest Holmes get a touchdown. Or course this morning I put him on my bench.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 05:34 PM
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 05:45 PM
I got spooked with all the reports of his past injuries and how he didn't play much last week. I gotta stop listening to other people and just go with my gut.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:05 PM
Deuce w/ the deuce!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:14 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Deuce w/ the deuce! and you got Dillon this week.....bastid :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:18 PM
We'd be tied right now if we were going this week. :p
I need Houston to score a couple times to wipe out Spike's 0 PtsAllow and I'll be in better shape...
Edit2: From my fingers to God's ears.
Edit: Freakin' ESPN - I can't get into any of their games.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:21 PM
Has anyone tried out the StatTracker feature?
Some good stuff there. I bought it last year for I think $10, but all I remember it doing is a real time update, by position, of everyone's score.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:22 PM
I can't get on ESPN either
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:22 PM
It's free this week, but I do buy it every year
Plaw, it's the same as it was last year -- both an improvement on the original version 2 years ago (the one you still get w/ Firefox - the IE version is the cool one)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:24 PM
Did they have all the same features last year? I don't remember.
(No ESPN for me either)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:25 PM
Darrell Jackson
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:27 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Did they have all the same features last year? I don't remember.
Yeah, they did. It was 2 years ago they had the stripped-down version...
DAMN! I thought Troupe would be an awful choice for TE today, and he scored.
And Griese on my bench has 11 pts already - but I had to start Bulger, right?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 06:37 PM
Week 1 - Sunday Early - Halftime Report
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
--------------------------
PL 9 [13] (9)
DB 25 [27] (8)
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ZO 3 [05] (9)
DJ 28 [29] (7)
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DM 40 [46] (8)
FC 26 [27] (6)
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SP 20 [38] (9)
JG 45 [62] (6)
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TU 9 [29] (8)
JB 27 [38] (9)
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TL 30 [45] (9)
RB 25 [35] (8)
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CC 7 [34] (9)
IM 9 [17] (9)
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Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 07:03 PM
WHY did you have to show the optimal points?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 07:46 PM
Marty Booker TD. How DO you do.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 08:10 PM
It's pretty bad when my kicker has more points then my QB.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 08:26 PM
Week 1 - Sunday Early - Final Report
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 26 [41] (3)
PL 27 [27] (4)
----------------------
DJ 40 [41] (4)
ZO 22 [37] (4)
----------------------
FC 29 [30] (3)
DM 54 [75] (4)
----------------------
JG 49 [74] (4)
SP 34 [55] (2)
----------------------
JB 41 [56] (3)
TU 18 [36] (6)
----------------------
RB 26 [50] (5)
TL 45 [69] (4)
----------------------
IM 18 [35] (2)
CC 27 [62] (4)
----------------------
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
It's pretty bad when my kicker has more points then my QB. Luckily the -6 Culpooper gave you in this game was worth +10 in the other one. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 08:30 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] It's pretty bad when my kicker has more points then my QB. Luckily the -6 Culpooper gave you in this game was worth +10 in the other one. :p
[/b][/quote]On top of this you insist on showing the optimal points. You're just a bundle of joy today.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 08:32 PM
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 08:32 PM
The two players Iceman has left just have to be Ravens.
What to do, what to do.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/11/05 11:51 PM
Week 1 - Pre Sunday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 41 [47] (1) Indy Def vs
PL 38 [50] (1) WR Wayne in a close matchup
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DJ 58 [58] (2) RB Westbrook & TE Crumpler vs
ZO 16 [38] (2) T.O. & TE Clark (not lookin' good)
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FC 32 [34] (2) WR Harrison & K Akers vs
DM 65 [86] (2) TE Heap o' & Philly Def
----------------------
JG 82 [113] (1) WR Mason vs
SP 39 [58] (1) McNabb probably not that good
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JB 53 [70] (1) RB EJames vs
TU 42 [66] (2) Manning & K Peterson
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RB 40 [62] (2) Needs 11 from Vick & Vanderjagt
TL 50 [71] (0) F-ed by Favre (-2)
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IM 18 [38] (2) RB Lewis & K Stover vs
CC 27 [68] (2) RB Dunn & TE LSmith
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Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 07:11 AM
5 from Vick? Im not worried at all.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:14 PM
Week 1 - Pre Monday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 57 [63] (0) Indy Def comes through
PL 40 [56] (0) No Production from WRs
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DJ 58 [58] (2) RB Westbrook & TE Crumpler vs
ZO 19 [38] (1) T.O. (not lookin' good)
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FC 42 [43] (1) K Akers vs
DM 66 [86] (2) Philly Def
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JG 86 [120] (0) Huge Week
SP 39 [58] (1) McNabb probably not that good
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JB 58 [71] (0) Hoping for negative points
TU 59 [74] (1) Hoping for lots of field goals
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RB 46 [61] (1) Needs 5 from Vick
TL 50 [71] (0) F-ed by Favre (-2)
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IM 18 [40] (0) -3 from Stover
CC 27 [69] (2) Sat Priest?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:35 PM
I benched Priest for Dunn, who plays tonight. Here's too Dunn's 11 points so I don't feel so bad.
I was never so glad to see The Ravens play as poorly as they did last night. 3 missed field goals from Stover!
I'm sorry I had to put the hex on him Iceman, but business is business.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:36 PM
How long does it take for FA pickups to appear on your roster?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:38 PM
Should be instantaneous, Plaw...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:40 PM
I made some moves this morning which, as you can see, appear on our league's home page, but the changes aren't reflected on my roster.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:42 PM
Maybe cuz this week isn't over yet and I'm dropping someone (StL Def) who scored points for me?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:43 PM
Look at your "Week 2" team... They should be there. Your "shown roster" won't change until after the MNF game is done (since we're still technically in Week 1).
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:47 PM
Ah...gotcha. Thanks.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:50 PM
If I dropped someone, can I pick them up again, or is he off limits to me?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:51 PM
That only applies to lovers
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:52 PM
I hate counting my Chicken Wings before they hatch, but I think expecting 48 pts from McNabb is crazy, so... Yay! 1-0 baby! I ate those Chicken Wings up for breakfast!
(Could be the biggest jinx in world history right there! lol)
Next week I get to eat... I mean... next week will be tougher going against DMC. Johnson vs Johnson, Franks vs Reed, Bulger vs.......
anyway! Congrats, Douche & Crab Cake, & likely DJ! And the rest when it's official...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:53 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
That only applies to lovers
Well I'm looking for a wide receiver, does that count?
I want to score with the guy, but not that way.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:54 PM
I have plenty of WRs
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 02:55 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I have plenty of WRs
Are you talking football or lovers?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
If I dropped someone, can I pick them up again, or is he off limits to me?
When a player is dropped, he goes on the Waiver Wire for 2 days. If someone (or more than one) tries to pick that player up while he's on the waiver wire, that player will go based on the Waiver Priority (i.e. the player with the best Waiver Priority (as seen on our home page - right now, it's FC) will get that player. The player who gets a waiver wire player will go to the bottom of the waiver priority list.
If no one tries to pick up that player, he becomes a regular Free Agent and anyone can pick him up at any time without changing one's waiver priority.
So Bethie, long story short, you can pick up any player you wish - whether he's a player you dropped or not. Getting him, though, will depend on the demand for that player and your waiver priority (if the guy is a waiver wire player).
Believe me, it's really simple and much tougher to explain than it really is.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] I have plenty of WRs
Are you talking football or lovers? [/b][/quote]
I just picked up a tight end myself. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:02 PM
Well it's been more then 2 days since I dropped him, so I guess he's up for grabs. Would this also require an approval from everyone.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] I have plenty of WRs
Are you talking football or lovers? [/b][/quote]
I just picked up a tight end myself. :p [/b][/quote]Does anyone have a Johnson they're not using?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:04 PM
No. Nothing in this league requires approval (except trades which require approval according to my trade policy which is a couple of pages back) from anybody in our league.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Does anyone have a Johnson they're not using?
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:10 PM
Week 1 - Pre Monday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 57 [63] (0) Indy Def comes through
PL 40 [56] (0) No Production from WRs
----------------------
DJ 58 [58] (2) RB Westbrook & TE Crumpler vs
ZO 19 [38] (1) T.O. (not lookin' good)
----------------------
FC 42 [43] (1) K Akers vs
DM 66 [86] (1) Philly Def
----------------------
JG 86 [120] (0) Huge Week
SP 39 [58] (1) McNabb probably not that good
----------------------
JB 58 [71] (0) Hoping for negative points
TU 59 [74] (1) Hoping for lots of field goals
----------------------
RB 46 [61] (1) Needs 5 from Vick
TL 50 [71] (0) F-ed by Favre (-2)
----------------------
IM 18 [40] (0) -3 from Stover
CC 27 [69] (2) Sat Priest?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] Does anyone have a Johnson they're not using?
:p [/b][/quote]Can he go deep?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 09:41 PM
Great trio of QBs I have... My starter gets 4 points and my two bench QBs get 1 point and -2 points respectively. :rolleyes:
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/12/05 10:51 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] Does anyone have a Johnson they're not using?
:p [/b][/quote]No I'm pretty sure JG is using it.....just no one else :p
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 04:39 AM
God what a poor performance by my team
.
I'll take the win and run.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 06:06 AM
Too busy lately to do other Commish's work, so here are standings only:
Edit: (in order of points)
1-0 JG 86 #1 Plays #2 Next Week
1-0 DM 77 #2 Plays #1 Next Week
1-0 DJ 71 #3 Plays #6 Next Week
1-0 TU 61 #4 Plays #7 Next Week
0-1 JB 58 #5 Plays #10 Next Week
1-0 DB 57 #6 Plays #3 Next Week
1-0 RB 52 #7 Plays #4 Next Week
0-1 TL 50 #8 Plays #14 Next Week
0-1 FC 45 #9 Plays #13 Next Week
0-1 SP 44 #10 Plays #5 Next Week
0-1 PL 40 #11 Plays #12 Next Week
1-0 CC 33 #12 Plays #11 Next Week
0-1 ZO 24 #13 Plays #9 Next Week
0-1 IM 17 #14 Plays #8 Next Week
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 11:15 AM
I'm in 12th place? I prefer to think of myself as being tied for 1st.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 01:22 PM
I'm just glad I did alright without putting in my boy Willie Parker and Antonio Gates.
RagginBull is next and is always a tough opponent.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 01:43 PM
Lucky Wins & Tough Losses As discussed earlier in this thread, my problem with head-to-head competition is that too much depends on the vagaries of the schedule.
You could have the second highest score of the week, good enough to get a win against 12 of the other 13 players in our league, but have the misfortune, strictly due to the luck of the schedule, of playing the only person who had a higher score than you. That's a tough loss.
Conversely, you could have the second worst score of the week, which would be good enough to beat only one other player, and by the luck of the schedule get a win because that one person happens to be the one you were lucky enough to play. That's a lucky win.
And no, it doesn't even out over the course of the season. Last year, if I recall correctly, Double J had 4 or 5 tough losses and only 1 or 2 cheap wins, while others had several cheap wins, and only 1 or 2 tough losses.
Anyway, this week we had only one of each. The criteria is as follows:
If your score was good enough to beat 7 of the 13 other players and you lost, that's a tough loss.
If your score was only good enough to beat 6 of the other 13 players and you won, that's a lucky win.
So......
JB's 58 was good enough to beat 9 of the 13 other players, yet he wound up with a loss.
And CC's 33 would have lost to 11 of the 13 other players, but she came away with a win.
Lucky Tough
Wins Losses
-
CC 1 0
JB 0 1
JG 0 0
DM 0 0
DJ 0 0
TU 0 0
DB 0 0
RB 0 0
TL 0 0
FC 0 0
PL 0 0
SP 0 0
ZO 0 0
IM 0 0
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 01:49 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Conversely, you could have the second worst score of the week, which would be good enough to beat only one other player, and by the luck of the schedule get a win because that one person happens to be the one you were lucky enough to play. That's a lucky win.
I'll get lucky any way I can.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] Conversely, you could have the second worst score of the week, which would be good enough to beat only one other player, and by the luck of the schedule get a win because that one person happens to be the one you were lucky enough to play. That's a lucky win.
I'll get lucky any way I can. [/b][/quote]I second that.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 01:57 PM
I would agree with you Plaw, but that is simply part of the game. I do feel that the most emphasis should be placed upon total points scored in a season, but the head to head matchups give it an actuall football feel, especially with the playoffs and everything.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
RagginBull is next and is always a tough opponent.
What kind of trash talk is this? That's almost a compliment. You're not supposed to be cordial to your opponent. I've got plaw this week. You think I'm gonna be nice and sweet to him? After all these years of ruffling his feathers and making him sweat I don't think I can change my ways.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 02:13 PM
For him to lose to a filthy limey will be embarrassing enough without me pushing it too far.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 02:16 PM
Is that some sort of reverse jinx?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 02:18 PM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
but the head to head matchups give it an actuall football feel, especially with the playoffs and everything.
I never thought about it like that. But it is true. In the NFL if a team wins to another with a score that would have beaten any other team they still have the loss.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 02:23 PM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
I would agree with you Plaw, but that is simply part of the game. I do feel that the most emphasis should be placed upon total points scored in a season, but the head to head matchups give it an actuall football feel, especially with the playoffs and everything.
I agree.
But the difference is that in real football you play offense
and defense. In this game you play only offense. There is absolutely nothing you can do to control your opponent's score. It's all luck of the scheduling.
Anyway, that said, for anyone who is interested (probably no one) here is last year's final on Lucky Wins and Tough Losses:
Lucky Tough
Name Wins Losses
-
RB 0 1
PL 0 3
FC 1 1
SP 2 3
DJ 1 4
BD 2 0
PP 2 3
TU 3 1
LD 3 1
IM 2 0
JG 2 1 DJ was hurt the most. In three of his four tough losses, he beat 9/11, 8/11, and 10/11 of the other players that day.
Other
very brutal losses include:
PL, beating 8/11 others in week 12 and losing
PP, beating 10/11 others in week 2 and losing
SP, beating 8/11 others in week 7 and losing
TU, beating 8/11 others in week 8 and losing
FC, beating 9/11 others in week 4 and losing
Some
very lucky wins include:
BD, beating only 3/11 others in week 4 and winning
PP, beating only 2/11 others in week 11 and winning
JG, beating only 3/11 others in week 9
and week 12, and winning both
LD, beating only 3/11 others in week 8 and winning
SP, beating only 3/11 others in week 11 and winning
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 02:41 PM
Trade Update
Plaw gets Julius Jones (RB - Dal)
DMC gets DeShaun Foster (RB - Car) and Brandon Lloyd (WR - SF). DMC is dropping Bobby Wade (WR - Sea).
You guys have got to be kidding me? :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 02:50 PM
Week 1 - Final Results
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 57 [63] (0) Indy Def comes through
PL 40 [56] (0) No Production from WRs
----------------------
DJ 71 [71] (0) Great start
ZO 24 [43] (0) Played non-playing TE
----------------------
FC 45 [46] (0) Lack of production from RBs
DM 77 [86] (0) What were you thinking?
----------------------
JG 86 [120] (0) Huge Week
SP 44 [58] (0) McNabb not good enough
----------------------
JB 58 [71] (0) Loses heartbreaker
TU 61 [76] (0) Squeaks out win
----------------------
RB 52 [67] (0) Needed 5 from Vick, got 6
TL 50 [74] (0) F-ed by Favre (-2)
----------------------
IM 17 [40] (0) -3 from Stover
CC 33 [76] (0) Sat Priest?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[b]Trade Update
Plaw gets Julius Jones (RB - Dal)
DMC gets DeShaun Foster (RB - Car) and Brandon Lloyd (WR - SF). DMC is dropping Bobby Wade (WR - Sea).
You guys have got to be kidding me? :rolleyes: [/b]
Speaking as a player, I only have one question... This was the best deal you can get, DMC?
My general rule of thumb is you give up a stud under three scenarios: (i) You get a stud in return or (ii) that stud isn't performing (e.g. Clinton Portis last year) or (iii) you are fixing a definite weak spot. There are probably other scenarios, but these are the three main ones in my opinion.
(i) Is DMC getting a stud back?
No. Foster isn't even starting for his team or if/when he does, he'll be sharing carries with Stephen Davis. Brandon Lloyd probably has the second worst starter-backup combination of QBs throwing to him in the league (Chicago is the worst).
(ii) Is the stud not performing?
It's only week 1 so it's too early to tell. In week 1 though, Jones scored a TD and 111 yards from scrimage. That's pretty good.
(iii) Is DMC fixing a weak spot?
Arguable. DMC was hurt big time by Walker getting hurt. He's also a bit weak at running back because Larry Johnson will split carries with Priest. So who does he give up - the back with the definite carries, not the one who is splitting carries. Doesn't really help in my opinion. How about at WR? Is Lloyd that much of an upgrade over David Patten (or anybody that could have been taken from free agency)? I don't think so.
In any case, I'm not asking DMC or Plaw to defend themselves or even answer the rhetorical question that I asked to begin this post. I'm just stating my opinions on this trade. As a player in this league, I'm a bit frustrated (and yes, a bit jealous :p ) at some of the trades that have been going down lately.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
My general rule of thumb is you give up a stud under three scenarios: (i) You get a stud in return or (ii) that stud isn't performing
Does this also work in dating?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 04:37 PM
I haven't looked closely at the DMC/Plaw trade, but since I play DMC next - go for it! :p
But I do agree w/ DB about uneven trades. However, at the same time, there's also nothing wrong w/ trying to sneak something past the other guy, is there? As long as it's not collusion....
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 04:44 PM
I figured this might get blocked, if you are wondering yes I am trying to fix a weak spot.
I personally feel that Lloyd/foster will work out better for me than Jones/Patten.
Just my 2 cents.
If the league feels it is uneven then it is okay with me to deny it.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 04:47 PM
I never block trades unless it appears to be collusion -- and it's way too early in the season for that! So I say go for it if you feel it'd help you...
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 04:53 PM
I agree that it can be a bitch Pl, but this occurs all the time in team sports. Is it unfair to teams in the NL East like the Mets, Nationals, and Philies because they all have records that would win the NL West, yet they happen to be at the bottom of their division? Is it unfair that teams like Chiefs, Jets, Ravens and Jaguars would be virtually guaranteed playoff spots if they were NFC teams, but because they are in the AFC, they have to fight their asses off just to win a wildcard? Maybe a little, but its just part of sports. Our Fantasy Football league isnt really all that diferent from the real thing.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 04:54 PM
Just for the record, I wasn't lobbying to block it - I was just expressing my opinion. Others can pipe in if they want but I've played with you two guys for a long time and I know you're both not the colluding type.
If anything, the DMC-JG pair would be the "colluding" type. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 04:56 PM
From the last page...
Trade Update
Plaw gets Julius Jones (RB - Dal)
DMC gets DeShaun Foster (RB - Car) and Brandon Lloyd (WR - SF). DMC is dropping Bobby Wade (WR - Sea).
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Just for the record, I wasn't lobbying to block it - I was just expressing my opinion. Others can pipe in if they want but I've played with you two guys for a long time and I know you're both not the colluding type.
If anything, the DMC-JG pair would be the "colluding" type. :p
Thank you DB, what I want to say to everyone and this is not meant to be disrespectful in anyway but I know it will probably come out that way:
Accuse me, challenge me on the intelligence of the trade but don't question my competitiveness.
I would have no reason whatsoever to "help" plaw in this way and I'm not going to make a trade that will knowingly hurt me.
Like I said before I feel the difference in Lloyd over Patten will be greater than the difference in Jones over Foster.
For the record, almost this exact trade was proposed to me on Tuesday of last week and I said NO because I had Walker, now without Walker I don't have any "disposable" players so of course only having one person to trade for 2 is going to be "uneven" in some way.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 09:13 PM
No disrespect taken but I already KNOW you're not the colluding type. What I meant by "Others can pipe in if they want" is for others to give their opinions on the trade, not whether they think you were colluding with plaw. I hope that's what came across, but maybe not based on your response.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 09:16 PM
I think we should deny plaw this trade for payback for all the ruckus he started with his "Morality clause" thread.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
No disrespect taken but I already KNOW you're not the colluding type. What I meant by "Others can pipe in if they want" is for others to give their opinions on the trade, not whether they think you were colluding with plaw. I hope that's what came across, but maybe not based on your response.
No I knew what you mean DB, I was just saying it to everyone else that might not have played fantasy games with me before.
Sorry for the confusion
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
If anything, the DMC-JG pair would be the "colluding" type. :p
Well JG did propose we try to get something going with our Johnsons
unfortunately that was 4 weeks before the draft
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 09:34 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I do agree w/ DB about uneven trades.
I'm not disagreeing with anything DB said about trades, and when he gave his three scenarios for cancelling a trade last week (collusion, mistake, totally ridiculous, like Peyton Manning for Brandon Lloyd even-up or something) that was fine with me.
Just for the record, though, if we have a commissioner whom we all trust and who knows the game (which we do), I see no need for the voting process.
But what exactly did DB say about uneven trades that you agree with?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 09:43 PM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
Our Fantasy Football league isnt really all that diferent from the real thing.
Everything you said is true about the Mets, Jets, etc.
How's this for an idea, though.......Have a league where your opponent gets to pick your starting lineup every week. That way there would be some element of defense involved.
In the draft, everyone would have to pick players who were roughly of equal ability and mediocre, cuz if you had stars you would never get to play them anyway.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 10:10 PM
Interesting idea, but I think it would be a little extreme if your oponent got to pick your entire starting line up. I think that would be a good idea if it were modified a little. For example, maybe your oponent gets to pick one RB, one WR, and maybe one other player besides the QB.
The only problem with this idea, is that it actually discourages padding your team with depth. Why would you keep a sub-par player as a backup, if your opponent is just gonna make them start? It would be much more benefical to have only the neccesary ammount of players for each important position (i.e. Only 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, etc.). This would certainly require a different strategy, but I think it would probably be too drastic of a change.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 10:18 PM
Yeah, it's radical, and as I said the draft strategy would be totally different.
You'd have to pick a full team so you'd have backups in case of injury, but you'd want guys of all equal ability. So they would all have to be mediocre players, cuz there aren't enough stars to go around in a league of our size.
In a smaller league, though, it might be different.
Your idea of letting your opponent pick some of your player is interesting. Maybe you get to pick your first starter, and your opponent gets to pick your next starter, and so on, so you could still have some stars.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 10:24 PM
It would be interesting to try, but I dont think it could work in a league this size. We all have some pretty awful players on our teams, and that is only cause we have to maintain a full team. Maybe if there were like 8 players or less it could work.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 10:30 PM
BTW, I was up in your neck of the woods on Sunday, RB. Went to visit some friends who live in Blooming Grove.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 11:01 PM
Blooming Grove... That near Albany? I dont really know the area around here too well so I havent heard of it
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 11:10 PM
Near Washingtonville and Newburgh.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/13/05 11:29 PM
Oo ok. Im surprised I never heard of it, but yea I live like right near Newburgh.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:16 AM
I agree with you both DS and JG. Plaw is obviously coming out way ahead in the deal, but if DMC wants to make the deal, then he should be allowed to do it. This is a friendly, not competitive, league. In a league like this, if we're going to start getting nitpicky about trades, we might as well just appoint one person to pick the starting lineups for each team every week. Everyone has different philosophies and, whether correct or incorrect, they should be allowed to implement them into their teams.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:30 AM
Why should there even be a question?
Did I get the better of the deal? Obviously I must think so, or else I wouldn't have made it. After almost every trsde it looks like one person or the other got the better of it, at least on paper. But you never know.
Last week I offered DM a deal for Javon Walker which I thought was in my favor, and he turned it down. Had he made it, he'd be looking good today and I'd feel like an idiot.
Part of the skill in this game is making trades. Again, absent collusion or an honest mistake by someone 'cuz they clicked "accept" by mistake instead of "reject" or something, there is no reason, IMO, why a trade should be vetoed.
That's why I don't see the need for voting. I trust DB 1000%. If he thinks there is collusion or an honest mistake, he's the commissioner. If I didn't trust him and his decisions and thought that this was gonna be a bullshit game, I wouldn't play.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:30 AM
It's always competitive
Honestly though, each team gets what 3 "Stars" can we agree on that at least? Julius Jones is predicted and hoping to be a star, in my eyes he is not yet the T.O. Tiki Barber etc.. level.
I am not trading away a Peyton Manning for a nobody which then puts plaw into the 4 established star range making his team "uber" (whatever that is :p )
But as I've said if people feel its uneven then cancel it and I will play Jones/Patten.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:34 AM
See above.
It's not gonna be cancelled because it's uneven.
What would be the point of even making trades if uneven ones were overturned?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:34 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Last week I offered DM a deal for Javon Walker which I thought was in my favor, and he turned it down. Had he made it, he'd be looking good today and I'd feel like an idiot.
Part of the skill in this game is making trades.
I trust DB 1000%. If he thinks there is collusion or an honest mistake, he's the commissioner.
Of course I see how people would say you are getting the better part of this deal. But on my side I'm the one who's down a player and only putting 1 up for 2.
I was the one who went to plaw with the trade, I proposed the trade.
I agree 100% about the trades, who's to say Stephen Davis doesn't go down again or Alex Smith and Lloyd have some great communication when Smith starts
I will standby whatever DB says.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:40 AM
I
still don't understand what the whole big discussion is about
No collusion, no mistake, no Peyton Manning for a nobody, no reason to veto the trade.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:43 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I still don't understand what the whole big discussion is about
No collusion, no mistake, no Peyton Manning for a nobody, no reason to veto the trade. I agree
A man of few words that npul is
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:45 AM
Do you mean "apul"?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:46 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Do you mean "apul"?
apul? I'm lost there lol
N-neal
Pul-Pulcawer
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:52 AM
Oh. I thought you were making an anagram out of "Paul".
Do you play Scrabble, BTW?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 12:56 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Oh. I thought you were making an anagram out of "Paul".
Do you play Scrabble, BTW?
Actually no I could never really get into that game.
A few reasons why I'm good at anagrams though:
1) There used to be a game on AOL I don't remember the name that gave you a word and you had to find the most words in the word in a set amount of time, i used to play it A LOT
2) I have a mental condition I guess you'd call it that is known as "counting" there might be another more medical term for it but it is a form of OCD (opsessive compulsive disorder). If anyone has seen city slickers when they are in the mountains the guy would say a sentence and the other guy would say how many letters are in the sentence, well thats kinda what I can do. I hear a sentence and can rearrange the sentence into different words in my head (I'm also GREAT at basic math in my head because of this)
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 02:24 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I still don't understand what the whole big discussion is about Sorry again for posting in a thread in which I'm involved. I tried to write a post which I expressed my complete agreement with your philosophy on trades, but I somehow managed to violate the rules of the board yet again. The last time I checked the site, the last post in the thread was on page 6, so when I began reading today, that's where I started. The last post on page 6 is by JG about the trade, so I mistakenly thought that was the last post in the thread, and I posted my thoughts on the trade. I then realized I had yet to read the posts on page 7. So if my post is out of place, I apologize. From now on, if I'm not online the second a topic is brought up, I promise not to post in that topic anymore.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 02:39 AM
Don't be ridiculous, JB. You didn't violate any rules JB, (nor did you last time) and no apologies are necessary.
My comment wasn't directed at you, it was to everyone in general.
My views on the whole subject of trades should be quite evident by now, and you seemed to agree with me.
And whether we were playing for money, or simply for the glory, it shouldn't make any difference.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 02:53 AM
Alright then.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 02:56 AM
BTW, I am sternly against gambling, I do not believe in a college education or sustaining a career, and gaining personal pride through the accomplishments of strangers is my only motivation in life.
Am I back in the good graces of the board yet?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
Am I back in the good graces of the board yet?
I didn't know you were in the bad graces of the board. :p
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/14/05 11:20 PM
Well I have yet to make a post since I left the baseball league that wasn't ridiculed as a result.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/16/05 02:08 PM
Week 2 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9) Trying to avoid DNP
DJ 00 [00] (9) Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis
----------------------
PL 00 [00] (9) Looking to feast on crab cakes
CC 00 [00] (9) Lucky win this!
----------------------
FC 00 [00] (9) Looking to bounce back
ZO 00 [00] (9) 10-year veteran had non-playing TE last week
----------------------
JG 00 [00] (9) Penis Twin #1
DM 00 [00] (9) In new tips #2
----------------------
JB 00 [00] (9) In plaw's doghouse?
SP 00 [00] (9) Misses Manning
----------------------
RB 00 [00] (9) Won close one last week
TU 00 [00] (9) So did he
----------------------
IM 00 [00] (9) Goal to score over 20
TL 00 [00] (9) Looking to melt Iceman
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/16/05 03:47 PM
Week 1 - Points Standings
JG 87
DM 77
DJ 71
TU 61
JB 58
DB 57
RB 52
TL 51
FC 45
SP 44
PL 40
CC 33
ZO 24
IM 17
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/16/05 03:56 PM
Plaw bitched and moaned about my "lucky win" yet he only scored 7 points more then me.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/16/05 04:03 PM
I wasn't bitching and moaning. Merely stating a fact
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 05:51 PM
Damn, I knew I should've gotten StatTracker sooner - It won't let me in now (probably too busy)...
Edit: "There is a temporary problem with your account. We are working to resolve it. Please try again in one business day." WTF??!!
:rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 06:00 PM
Anyone have StatTracker? If so, it'd be cool if you posted how we're all doing every now and then until I get my "problem" resolved... :rolleyes:
Edit: Never mind. Plaw pointed out that he was still getting his for free, so yeah, I got it.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 06:10 PM
Does Dante
not know how to give me negative points? :rolleyes:
Where the hell are all these offers I had for him?
Culpooper!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 07:33 PM
I'll give you any two guys from my bench for him.
Edit: 5 INTs for Cukpooper today
Make that one guy from my bench.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 07:37 PM
Question: I forgot.
Do points scored on interception runbacks or fumble recovery returns for TDs count agains your defense?
How about points scored against your special teams, like kickoff and punt returns for TDs?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 07:44 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I'll give you any two guys from my bench for him.
Edit: 5 INTs for Cukpooper today
Make that one guy from my bench. I think I'll just trade him for Trent Dilfer. :rolleyes:
Of course, we all know what defense I have on my bench today.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 07:45 PM
I noticed that
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 07:47 PM
What was I gonna do? Pick the defense that's going against my qb. That's like picking the opposing offense for the team you have as a pitcher.
At least I'm glad I could find a way to put a smile on your face.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 08:30 PM
Week 2 - After First Games
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had) (Won't Update Until After Sunday Night Game)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 21 [00] (7) A LOT of points on the bench
DJ 38 [00] (4) Big game from Housh
----------------------
PL 05 [00] (5) -1 from Detroit Defense
CC 14 [00] (6) Cul-pooper
----------------------
FC 22 [00] (5) Looking to bounce back
ZO 33 [00] (5) Big game again from C. Williams
----------------------
JG 22 [00] (6) Penis Twin #1
DM 29 [00] (3) In new tips #2
----------------------
JB 74 [00] (3) In plaw's doghouse?
SP 54 [00] (2) Misses Manning
----------------------
RB 36 [00] (4) Won close one last week
TU 39 [00] (3) So did he
----------------------
IM 15 [00] (4) Goal to score over 20
TL 27 [00] (4) Looking to melt Iceman
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 08:32 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Question: I forgot.
Do points scored on interception runbacks or fumble recovery returns for TDs count agains your defense?
How about points scored against your special teams, like kickoff and punt returns for TDs? Interceptions runbacks and fumble recovery returns for TDs does not count against your defense.
Kickoff and punt returns do.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 09:22 PM
Matt Hasselbeck can kiss my a$$. :rolleyes:
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 11:21 PM
Gotcha Turi
. Good match though.
I have a question DB. I have the option to either play Shockey or Cooley tommorrow at TE tomorrow. Since Shockey is injurred and might do more harm than good, I was wondering if I have the option to not play any TE tomorrow.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 11:25 PM
RB - yes, you can choose not to have anybody in any particular position. You'll just get a zero for that position. What you'll be giving up though is the opportunity to add more points towards the points-based championship.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 11:36 PM
Week 2 - Pre-Sunday Night Football
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had) (Won't Update Until After Sunday Night Game)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 42 [00] (2) Disgusted; Kennison, Jordan vs.
DJ 45 [00] (2) Burress, Janikowski
----------------------
PL 10 [00] (2) J. Jones, Gonzo vs.
CC 23 [00] (2) Glenn, Priest
----------------------
FC 27 [00] (2) Collins, Porter vs.
ZO 36 [00] (3) Green, Feely, Dal Def
----------------------
JG 30 [00] (3) Keyshawn, Deuce, NY Def vs.
DM 29 [00] (3) Brooks, Moss, Girlfriend Beater
----------------------
JB 74 [00] (3) Huge week
SP 72 [00] (0) Bad loss
----------------------
RB 54 [00] (1) Sitting TE?
TU 51 [00] (0) 0 for Manning - he sucks, trade him :p
----------------------
IM 19 [00] (3) Needs big points from Eli, Horn, S. Moss
TL 44 [00] (1) Looks to sew it up with Portis
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/18/05 11:40 PM
Way too close for comfort.
Posted By: The Iceman
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 12:19 AM
Like usual I'm getting killed in this league. While on my other 2 fantasy leagues through yahoo, I'm clobbering my opponents.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 12:22 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Way too close for comfort. unless NY gets destroyed I guess you will win
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 12:27 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
unless NY gets destroyed I guess you will win Nice attempt at an Anti-Jinx™ but it won't work. Your QB vs my Def. Not good for me.
But we'll see tonight how your 2 guys do. Sure hope they don't get injured in the 1st quarter or something!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 12:30 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]unless NY gets destroyed I guess you will win Nice attempt at an Anti-Jinx™ but it won't work. Your QB vs my Def. Not good for me.
But we'll see tonight how your 2 guys do. Sure hope they don't get injured in the 1st quarter or something!
[/b][/quote]That was NOT an anti-jinx&trade, I swear on Trish Stratus $550 shirt
In all seriousness though it is pretty much even, don't defenses have a better chance of scoring points though?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 12:32 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
don't defenses have a better chance of scoring points though?
In my case, yes.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 04:31 AM
Week 2 - Pre-Monday Night Football
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 51 [80] (0) Coulda been a points contenda
DJ 50 [65] (1) Needs 2 from Burress
----------------------
PL 12 [24] (1) J. Jones vs.
CC 32 [83] (1) Glenn; Choose the opposite next time
----------------------
FC 39 [40] (0) Tiny sliver of hope
ZO 40 [65] (2) Feely & Dallas *could* go negative...
----------------------
JG 30 [49] (3) Keyshawn, Deuce, NY Def vs.
DM 49 [49] (1) Brooks; Could be a close one
----------------------
JB 74 [82] (3) Huge week
SP 74 [78] (0) Bad loss
----------------------
RB 54 [65] (1) Sitting TE?
TU 52 [61] (0) 0 for Manning - he sucks, trade him :p
----------------------
IM 19 [29] (3) Needs big points from Eli, Horn, S. Moss
TL 46 [74] (1) Looks to sew it up with Portis
Monday AM Scoring Adjustments, according to the game home page: DB -2, SP +2, TU +1, TL +2 (I cannot see Optimal on StatTracker at this point)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 11:11 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
CC 32 [83] (1) Glenn; Choose the opposite next time
Oy! Why do you insist on torturing me.
I'll post this now, to save everyone the trouble.
What happened to the other crying baby pic? That one was better.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 02:12 PM
Thanks for updating the scores Ass. Commish!
Trade UpdateDB gets
Daunte Culpepper (QB - Min). CC gets
Jake Delhomme (QB - Car) and Antonio Bryant (WR - Cle). CC will drop
Joey Galloway (WR - TB).
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 02:19 PM
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 02:24 PM
Yay! I'm unloading a sack of shit from my roster.
Of course, I know Dante will be back in old form and will get 4 td's next week. As long as it's not when I play DB.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 02:36 PM
But for Delhomme?
Never in my life would *I* make this trade unless 'pooper was injured. And you
do have #5 QB (this year) Hasselbeck already. But I'm not one to vote against a trade.... well,
usually... :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 02:44 PM
A total of -4 points from him in two weeks. Heck, I was ready to trade him in for Trent Dilfer.
Besides, Turi's not parting with Peyton.
As far as him being injured, how much worse can it get.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 06:23 PM
Geoff, the "smack talk" along with the picture on your avatar is creeping me out.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 06:31 PM
Trying to psych out my opponents!
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Thanks for updating the scores Ass. Commish!
[b]Trade UpdateDB gets
Daunte Culpepper (QB - Min). CC gets
Jake Delhomme (QB - Car) and Antonio Bryant (WR - Cle). CC will drop
Joey Galloway (WR - TB). [/b]
Wowee Wow Wow!! Well, all I can say is congrats to you DB. I guess I'm going to have to remember that this league isn't a competitive one and start making trade offers I wouldn't normally make. Good luck you ya, but as a Packers fan, I hope CC miraculously ends up with the better of the deal.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:25 PM
I'm a Bears fan so we're in the same boat!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
What happened to the other crying baby pic? That one was better.
From your friendly neighborhood commissioner...
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:32 PM
Ohhhhh, that was my pic remember? hahaha. That is my favorite, but I was talking about the one where the baby has his hands in front of him and he's screaming his head off. But I will save this one for posperity.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[b] Thanks for updating the scores Ass. Commish!
[b]Trade UpdateDB gets
Daunte Culpepper (QB - Min). CC gets
Jake Delhomme (QB - Car) and Antonio Bryant (WR - Cle). CC will drop
Joey Galloway (WR - TB). [/b]
Wowee Wow Wow!! Well, all I can say is congrats to you DB. I guess I'm going to have to remember that this league isn't a competitive one and start making trade offers I wouldn't normally make. Good luck you ya, but as a Packers fan, I hope CC miraculously ends up with the better of the deal. [/b][/quote]What can I say, I'm a woman. If men don't perform for us after the second try we throw them out with the garbage.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:39 PM
Oh you mean this one...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
What can I say, I'm a woman. If men don't perform for us after the second try we throw them out with the garbage. [Insert "I Think They Have Pills for That" Here]
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:41 PM
Hahaha. Bravo! That's the one. Poor little tyke. Maybe he heard I traded Culpooper for Delhomme too.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/19/05 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b]What can I say, I'm a woman. If men don't perform for us after the second try we throw them out with the garbage. [Insert "I Think They Have Pills for That" Here] [/b][/quote]Yeah...Ibuprofen.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 01:12 AM
C'mon DUNCE McAllister -- do something! :rolleyes:
I'm 15 pts back with my Giants Def vs DM's Brooks... got 1 pt from Deucebag, and then Keyshawn... difficult, not impossible.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:19 AM
Anybody with the live tracks lemme know what the current scores are...I think Plexi-glass caught a couple of passes but I hope he can get a TD...
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:41 AM
DJ, you are up 53-51 right now. You should be able to check the scores. Yahoo left it free for an extra week because of the unexpected volume of orders.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:41 AM
You're up by 2 right now DJ. Plexi-glass caught 60+ yards worth of passes to get you 3 points.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:43 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I'm a Bears fan so we're in the same boat! At least you have a glimmer of hope for this season. I put the O/U for the number of wins it takes to win the NFC North at 7 and I'll take the under. Can you believe that one of these teams is going to host a home playoff game?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:44 AM
It's almost like the NL West race in baseball.
I think 8 - 8 wins this division.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:47 AM
I think it's basically a two team race between the Bears and Vikes. I honestly think the Bears are the best team in the division right now just because they do have a dominant defense and that's one more strength than any other team in the division can claim. It depends on how soon the Vikes fire Tice and who they get to replace him.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:57 AM
You may be right JB. If Orton can prove he is somewhat legitimate, the Bears could be right in the mix of things.
I can't believe I just wrote that sentence.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 03:15 AM
JG needs 3 points from Keyshawn to win......
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:33 AM
That is waaaay too close.
Hopefully I can burn Pee-Law's ragged leaf this upcoming week and restore my team to it's overwhelming blowout victories.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 09:52 AM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
Gotcha Turi . Good match though.
I have a question DB. I have the option to either play Shockey or Cooley tommorrow at TE tomorrow. Since Shockey is injurred and might do more harm than good, I was wondering if I have the option to not play any TE tomorrow. What are you talking about. We tied. Wow Peyton didn't even get one point and I benched the wrong running back for Steamin' Willie Parker.
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
You may be right JB. If Orton can prove he is somewhat legitimate, the Bears could be right in the mix of things.
I can't believe I just wrote that sentence. I think he's legitimate. He's a winner, he's got skills so the potential is there. Let him win four or five games this seasons and look for a .500 record next year when the Vikings and Green Bay stink worse than this year.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 11:21 AM
Where's that ass whooping you promised me plaw?
(In my best Scarlett O'Hara voice)
You, sir, are no gentleman.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 12:17 PM
You wanna talk about bad losses, Chickenwings (whoever that is) scored almost 20 points more than the 3rd highest scoring team and still lost.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
You wanna talk about bad losses, Chickenwings (whoever that is) scored almost 20 points more than the 3rd highest scoring team and still lost.
Yup, that's absolutely as bad as it gets.
Having a score which was high enough to beat anyone else in the league except for the one person you happened to play.
Anyway, here are the Tough Losses and Lucky Winds for Week 2:
Tough Losses: SP, see above
Lucky Wins: CC again. Her score was good enough to beat only two of the other 13 players in the league, but once again caught a break with the schedule.
JJ, but just barely. His score would have lost had he played any of the 7 others who had a higher score than he did, so it wasn't
that much of a lucky win, but still.....
Note: Had to add two new categories this week, "Tough Ties" and “Lucky Ties”. We had two ties this week. The Turi-RB tie was "tough" for both of them, since their scores were good enough to beat 8 of the other 12 players. The JG-DM ties was neither, since their scores would have beaten 6 of the 12 other players and lost to 6 of the 12.
After Week 2 Lucky Tough Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties Ties
-
CC 2-0-0 2 0 0 0
DJ 2-0-0 1 0 0 0
JG 1-0-1 0 0 0 0
DM 1-0-1 0 0 0 0
TU 1-0-1 0 0 1 0
RB 1-0-1 0 0 1 0
JB 1-1-0 0 1 0 0
DB 1-1-0 0 0 0 0
ZO 1-1-0 0 0 0 0
IM 1-1-0 0 0 0 0
SP 0-2-0 0 1 0 0
TL 0-2-0 0 0 0 0
FC 0-2-0 0 0 0 0
PL 0-2-0 0 0 0 0
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 01:11 PM
Oooh, I got lucky again. But I'm not gonna be singing:
"Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight / Gonna grab some afternoon delight / My motto's always been, "When it's right, it's right" / Why wait until the middle of a cold dark night?"
Wow, where is plaw? I'm not used to having to look allllllllll the way down there to see his name. Don't worry plaw, I'll be
basement Bethie over in the other game. Here, you can be
pathetic Paulie , how's that?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 01:15 PM
Geoff and DMC tied? I guess they couldn't decide who would be on top.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 01:49 PM
O crap man your right
. I guess I read something wrong
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 01:58 PM
Commissioner Update
I believe the Turi-RB final score on our league's home page is incorrect. Turi owns Fred Taylor and on Turi's stats page, Yahoo credited Fred Taylor with 162 rushing yards and 36 receiving yards, giving him the requisite amount of points to score a tie. However, Fred Taylor really only ran for 81 yards and had only 18 receiving yards.
Stattracker has a final score of 57 - 52, with the win going to RB.
I have emailed Yahoo in regards to this discrepancy.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 02:26 PM
What? That is an outrage! I in fact watched the Jags game and saw Taylor run for 162 yards. He was also balancing eggs on his helmet as he did it. The guy's a stud.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 03:24 PM
Just to let you guys know, I'll post the final results and standings as soon as Yahoo fixes its scoring problems.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:21 PM
All ties are "tough" -- it's like having a bye week.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:26 PM
I disagree.
What's tough about a tie if you have a low score?
At least it's not a loss.
And if you wind up tying with a high score, that's gotta hurt. It's like losing a win.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:27 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
But who else more appropriate to tie with? I know, you're used to tying him "up". :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:31 PM
It goes without saying, a tie is better than a loss. Remember - what gets you in the playoffs is your win percentage, which is calculated similarly to what they do in hockey. Right now, those with ties have a better win percentage than those who lost.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:46 PM
What's "Winning Percentage" have to do with anything? Bethie's 2-0 -- yet #12 in points -- and after 2 weeks didn't score as many points as I did last week alone.
I think I'm gonna agree with Basement Plaw now - I should be #2 instead of #3. :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:48 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
What's "Winning Percentage" have to do with anything? Bethie's 2-0 -- yet #12 in points -- and after 2 weeks didn't score as many points as I did last week alone.
I think I'm gonna agree with Basement Plaw now - I should be #2 instead of #3. :p Where the hell is your whine alert? :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Where the hell is your whine alert? :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:54 PM
. :p
I can see everyone's point, but wasn't it explained before this was head to head. If plaw beat me, would he be whining that he's in 2nd, but doesn't have that many points. This is not a points game. Why does everyone want to make it out to be. In the NFL should other teams be moaning that The Redskins are 2-0, when they beat their teams by scores of 9-7 and 14-13?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 04:55 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
What's "Winning Percentage" have to do with anything? Bethie's 2-0 -- yet #12 in points -- and after 2 weeks didn't score as many points as I did last week alone.
I think I'm gonna agree with Basement Plaw now - I should be #2 instead of #3. :p What gets you in the playoffs, Winning Percentage, is a totally different subject from the "Lucky Wins/Ties and Tough Losses/Ties" that Plaw likes to talk about.
I'm just pointing out that there are 9 players in this league that would have rather have your record than their own right now.
And in the end, aren't we keeping track of the points for a separate championship to make this whole issue moot.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 05:17 PM
Back in 1963 when the NFL still had ties and played a 14 game season, the Giants and Steelers were in the same division.
Going into the last week of the season, the Steelers were 7-3-3, and the Giants were 10-3, and they were playing each other the last week.
Had the Steelers won, they would have finished 8-3-3 and the Giants 10-4, and the Steelers would have won the division and gone to the NFL championship game, based on their higher winning percentage.
The NY sportswriters were howling, because although the Steelers winning percentage would have been higher, everyone felt that a 10-4 record was more impressive than 8-3 (throwing out the Steelers three ties).
If it were hockey (2 Pts for a win, 1 Pt for a tie), the Giants record (20 Pts) would have been better than the Steelers (19 Pts).
And if you looked at "Games Behind", the Steelers would have finished 1/2 a game behind the Giants.
Fortunately, the Giants won the last game to finish 11-3, while the Steelers finished at 7-4-3.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/20/05 05:59 PM
Whewwwww
Dodged a bullet there. I hate ties.
But seriousely though I watched the stat tracker all weekend and monday, and until this morning it never said Turi had 57 points so I was real confused.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/21/05 12:35 AM
Wow...considering how many "tough losses" I took last year, squeaking out a win was nice.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/21/05 10:11 AM
Outrage! I demand a recount.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/21/05 02:06 PM
Week 2 - Final Results
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
Please note that Stattracker has already moved on to posting Week 3 matchups. Therefore, the optimal points stat is no longer available for Week 2.
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 51 [--] (0) Coulda been a points contenda
DJ 53 [--] (0) Got what he needed from Plexi-glass
----------------------
PL 17 [--] (0) Comeback starts today?
CC 45 [--] (0) 2-0 record!
----------------------
FC 39 [--] (0) Tough start
ZO 59 [--] (0) Riding his brand new Cadillac
----------------------
JG 54 [--] (0) Couldn't decide...
DM 54 [--] (0) ... who's on top
----------------------
JB 94 [--] (0) Huge week
SP 74 [--] (0) Bad loss
----------------------
RB 57 [--] (0) Almost screwed by Yahoo
TU 52 [--] (0) Outraged
----------------------
IM 58 [--] (0) Huge Monday night comeback
TL 49 [--] (0) Portis let down
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/21/05 02:21 PM
Week 2 - Points Standings
JB 152
JG 141
DM 131
DJ 125
SP 118
TU 113
RB 109
DB 108
TL 100
FC 84
ZO 83
CC 78
IM 75
PL 57
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
DJ 2-0-0 1.000 125 W-2
RB 2-0-0 1.000 109 W-2
CC 2-0-0 1.000 78 W-2
JG 1-0-1 .750 141 T-1
DM 1-0-1 .750 131 T-1
JB 1-1-0 .500 152 W-1
TU 1-1-0 .500 113 L-1
DB 1-1-0 .500 108 L-1
ZO 1-1-0 .500 83 W-1
IM 1-1-0 .500 75 W-1
SP 0-2-0 .000 118 L-2
TL 0-2-0 .000 100 L-2
FC 0-2-0 .000 84 L-2
PL 0-2-0 .000 57 L-2
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/21/05 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Stattracker has already moved on to posting Week 4 matchups.
Damn, so do we all get Week 3 off?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/21/05 03:29 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Damn, so do we all get Week 3 off? Oops.
Everybody gets a win in Week 3!
:p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 02:11 AM
I'm an idiot lol I meant to reject the trade from DB but I hit accept.
Kindly cancel the trade
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 03:02 AM
Commish Update
Against my better judgement, I'll believe DMC. :p
Unfortunately, Yahoo doesn't have a button so that Commisioners can cancel trades so I'll have to let the trade go through (which will happen sometime Monday night). Once the trade goes through, I'll fix the rosters to set them back where they were. If you want to make offers for the players in the trade between now and then, just send DMC or me a private message.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 03:16 AM
I voted against the trade - I assume if most of us did that, it wouldn't go thru to begin with.
Posted By: The Iceman
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 05:18 AM
I just looked at my fantasy team for this week. Man I'm going to get my butt killed this week. My leading receiver has a bye week, so do both of my running backs, and my backup RB is Duce Staley
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 06:08 AM
What was the trade?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 06:33 AM
Click on your team on Yahoo - you'll see how Douche tried to swindle our dear DMC!
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 12:07 PM
Originally posted by The Iceman:
I just looked at my fantasy team for this week. Man I'm going to get my butt killed this week. My leading receiver has a bye week, so do both of my running backs, and my backup RB is Duce Staley You should have checked your bye weeks for at least the next 4/5 games weeks ago and then make moves to sort out any problems. You've left it far too late.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 12:12 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Click on your team on Yahoo - you'll see how Douche tried to swindle our dear DMC! It's not
that big a swindle. I think
my deal with DMC - Julius Jones for Deshaun Foster and Brandon Lloyd was a much bigger one.
But I'm curious and still confused about this voting business. If someone makes a bad trade, why should the other players in the league be able to veto it?
This whole idea of voting to approve or overturn trades makes no sense.
As long as there's no collusion involved, tough luck on us if DB or anyone else is able to swindle someone.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 12:15 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Click on your team on Yahoo - you'll see how Douche tried to swindle our dear DMC! I wouldn't call it a swindle. It's not a completely lop sided trade. Davis scored 3 rushing TD's last week and he's going to get a lot more this year. Clayton is dependable. On the other side you've got a top calibre player in Moss and only Pittsburgh rejects throwing the ball to Heap.
Obviously it's a moot point now but it could have suited both players.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 12:18 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
But I'm curious and still confused about this voting business. If someone makes a bad trade, why should the other players in the league be able to veto it?
Exactly. Football is all about opinions and we all have our own. Most of the time they can differ. Also some people may sacrifice an uneven trade against them just so they don't have any bye week holes.
I say fair play to DB for trying it. He's tried (and failed) to rip me off too. :p
You too Plaw.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 02:24 PM
To make a long story short, I offered DMC a trade. From our negotiations this week, DMC made it clear to me that he needed more, so I believe him when he says that his acceptance of the trade was a mistake (he turned it down earlier).
JG's suggestion of a number of us just voting against the trade was a way around the problem of Yahoo not letting commissioners overturn trades directly.** JG could correct me if I'm misreading him, but his suggestion was more for administrative simplicity rather than an opinion on fairness.
** Yahoo actually lets commissioners overturn trades directly but you have to set that option before the season starts. If you recall, I started the season with a "League Votes" rule (before I knew about Yahoo's policy changes in regards to majority/minority overturn vote.) Since the season has already started, it won't let me change it.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 02:30 PM
Week 3 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
FC 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 00 [00] (9)
DJ 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JG 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JB 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
RB 00 [00] (9)
SP 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
IM 00 [00] (9)
TU 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
TL 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
I say fair play to DB for trying it. He's tried (and failed) to rip me off too. :p
I say everyone of my trade offers to you have been fair.
You mean you didn't like David Carr for Peyton Manning? :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 02:35 PM
This trade seems ok to me. DB is getting Todd Heap for crying out loud. He's the one who should be bitching.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Yahoo actually lets commissioners overturn trades directly but you have to set that option before the season starts. If you recall, I started the season with a "League Votes" rule (before I knew about Yahoo's policy changes in regards to majority/minority overturn vote.) Since the season has already started, it won't let me change it.
Can't
you just manually switch guys around on people's rosters to undo a trade.
I remember you were able to do that last year with free agents and waiver pickups?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 03:40 PM
Originally posted by The Iceman:
I just looked at my fantasy team for this week. Man I'm going to get my butt killed this week. My leading receiver has a bye week, so do both of my running backs, and my backup RB is Duce Staley Another big inequity in the head-to-head format.
The luck of the draw in who gets to play who when their best player(s) have a bye.
One player could have three weeks in a row when playing someone whose #1 QB has a bye, and someone else may never get to play someone whose QB has a bye.
Someone may
never get to play
anyone who has one of their top players on a bye, while someone else could have several weeks in a row of facing a team weakened by byes.
Not complaining...just pointing that out.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 03:54 PM
That sounds just like
real-life football to me! :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 04:00 PM
When do you get an easy win because you're playing a team with players on a bye in real football?
Injuries, yes. But we have that as a factor in our game, too.
But does anyone get to play the Colts when Manning has the week off cuz he's on a bye while the rest of the team is playing?
Planning your roster for your byes, as Turi pointed out, is an element of this game, and requires skill.
But who your opponent is when one of his best players has a bye is strictly luck.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 04:09 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Can't you just manually switch guys around on people's rosters to undo a trade.
I remember you were able to do that last year with free agents and waiver pickups?
That's actually what I'll be doing. What I was looking for was a way to overrule the trade even before it goes effective. Since I can't do it, I'll manually switch the guys back once the trade is effective.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 04:18 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
When do you get an easy win because you're playing a team with players on a bye in real football?
Injuries, yes. But we have that as a factor in our game, too.Of course I was talking about injuries or any DNP's -- a DNP is a DNP, and it happens in real life. And the opposing teams are usually pretty lucky. I never said a win was easy, though.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 05:22 PM
My tight end just scored
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 05:42 PM
As long as nobody is scoring on
your tight end.....
Travis Taylor on the bench, DB.....
ouch
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 06:01 PM
Originally posted by The Iceman:
My leading receiver has a bye week, so do both of my running backs, and my backup RB is Duce Staley
So why didn't you put Staley in since he
could play? And why do you have 2 WR's who are out/not active when you could pick up a couple free agents to replace them? AND - why couldn't *I* be the one to play you this week? :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 08:29 PM
Rackers kicked a 54-yard field goal
Edit: And now a 50-yarder! The guy's gooooood ...and each was 5 pts.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 08:38 PM
Week 3 - Pre-Afternoon Games
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 63 [00] (4)
FC 27 [00] (3)
----------------------
PL 19 [00] (5)
DJ 58 [00] (2)
----------------------
JG 46 [00] (6)
ZO 23 [00] (4)
----------------------
JB 78 [00] (4)
DM 40 [00] (3)
----------------------
RB 12 [00] (3)
SP 42 [00] (1)
----------------------
IM 06 [00] (3)
TU 22 [00] (6)
----------------------
TL 65 [00] (2)
CC 33 [00] (3)
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 09:21 PM
woo hoo Brandon lloyd 89 yard td
edit: nvm just looked at the scores
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 09:25 PM
I don't think I'm gonna get lucky this week.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
I don't think I'm gonna get lucky this week. neither will JG
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 09:41 PM
Im speechless
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 10:04 PM
You wouldn't have been as speechless had you had Vick (+16) instead of Pennington (-3)...
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 10:14 PM
Funny story... I was going to start Vick over Pennington at about 12:55 this afternoon, but I guess I was a little too late. Cost me 19 damned points
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 10:44 PM
Hasselbeck has a good game.
Of course, all the points would have to have been scored by Shaun Alexander. :rolleyes:
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/25/05 10:52 PM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
Funny story... I was going to start Vick over Pennington at about 12:55 this afternoon
......and what's the deal with airline food?
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 12:18 AM
Week 3 - Pre-Sunday Night Game
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 77 [00] (2)
FC 50 [00] (0)
----------------------
PL 37 [00] (3)
DJ 67 [00] (1)
----------------------
JG 82 [00] (2)
ZO 27 [00] (2)
----------------------
JB 95 [00] (2)
DM 66 [00] (1)
----------------------
RB 15 [00] (2)
SP 45 [00] (0)
----------------------
IM -3 [00] (2)
TU 37 [00] (1)
----------------------
TL 88 [00] (0)
CC 43 [00] (1)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 12:27 AM
It's a good thing I have a priest, because I'm praying for a miracle.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 01:46 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
JB 95 [00] (2)
And the gap widens. For all the one-sided trades I have seen thus far in the league, the theft of Chad Johnson & Carson Palmer for Favre and Jimmy Smith might turn out to be the most lopsided by season's end. Of course, those weeks when the Bengals get shut down, it won't look too nice, but those weeks look few and far between.
Posted By: The Iceman
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 02:23 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by The Iceman:
[b]My leading receiver has a bye week, so do both of my running backs, and my backup RB is Duce Staley
So why didn't you put Staley in since he
could play? And why do you have 2 WR's who are out/not active when you could pick up a couple free agents to replace them? AND - why couldn't *I* be the one to play you this week? :rolleyes: :p [/b][/quote]I didn't start Staley as he's been injured all year, and I didn't think he'd play. I think he did but either way he didn't do a damn thing. And I didn't pick up any free agents as the ones available are worse than my current players. Yeah I suppose I could've checked far in advance, but I've been working so much overtime that I've just been too tired.
Plus hasn't anyone here thought that I'm trying to set the record for the fewest points scored.
So with all that said I figured I'll just take the loss, sometimes that's a hell of a lot easier. Rather than pick up a free agent I'd only probably play one lousy game.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 02:08 PM
Really high scores this week...
Week 3 - Pre-Monday Night Game
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 109 [129] (1)
FC 49 [ 53] (0)
----------------------
PL 62 [75] (1) Needs 14 points from Tony Gonzalez
DJ 75 [90] (0)
----------------------
JG 94 [105] (0)
ZO 39 [ 46] (1)
----------------------
JB 98 [108] (1)
DM 66 [ 80] (1)
----------------------
RB 20 [49] (0)
SP 45 [45] (0)
----------------------
IM 16 [36] (1)
TU 47 [48] (0)
----------------------
TL 88 [88] (0)
CC 43 [63] (1)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 02:19 PM
Originally posted by The Iceman:
I didn't start Staley as he's been injured all year, and I didn't think he'd play. I think he did but either way he didn't do a damn thing.
Wouldn't have killed you to put him in there anyway.
Originally posted by The Iceman:
And I didn't pick up any free agents as the ones available are worse than my current players.
Yeah, I'm sure Ronald Curry (who has a torn Achilles tendon by the way) and Jerome Pathon (who currently isn't on an NFL roster) are much better options than any of the other players who are, you know, actually healthy and playing on an NFL team. :p
Originally posted by The Iceman:
Yeah I suppose I could've checked far in advance, but I've been working so much overtime that I've just been too tired.
I understand that you have time commitments. Everyone does. Let's try to keep the league competitive by at least having all your spots filled in with players that are actually playing. That's Fantasy Football 101 in my book and the very bare minimum responsibility that you should be able to meet by signing up in our league (or any league for that matter).
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 02:56 PM
^
^
^
^
What he said.
Posted By: Freddie C.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 06:34 PM
wow... my team sucks
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/26/05 08:19 PM
*Hopes that the Denver defense shuts down Tony Gonzalez*
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 08:58 AM
Just out of curiosity, how did they arrive at a .833 winning percentage for 2-0-1, when DM has .500 being 1-1-1 when 1-1-0 should be .500 ?
DJ 3-0-0 1.000 - 3/3 makes sense
JG 2-0-1 .833 - How am I also not 1.000?
DB 2-1-0 .667 - 2/3 makes sense
DM 1-1-1 .500 - How's he .500 with a tie when I'm not?
SP 1-2-0 .333 - 1/3 makes sense
PL 0-3-0 .000 - 0/3 makes sense :P
I understand that .833 is the avg btwn 1.000 and .667, but still... Is it just to show that I'm #2? If DJ wasn't in the picture, would it have said 1.000 for me? I don't get it...
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 10:11 AM
That's a fair point JG. I don't think it's a mistake with your record but with DMC's. The last tie I can remember in the NFL was Pittsburgh and Atlanta so I looked at the records from 2002:
http://www.nfl.com/history/standings/2002 Only two teams that year finished with 10 wins. The 49ers and Steelers (10-6-0 and 10-5-1 respectively). But there records differ - .625 and .656. I can't seem to work out how the tie is equated in the record.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 10:53 AM
Looks like they give half a win and half a loss for a tie, so if someone is 2-0-1 their record becomes 2 1/2 - 1/2, or 2.5 - 0.5
2.5/3 = .833
Apparently, the NFL does it the same way.
10-5-1 becomes 10 1/2 - 5 1/2, or 10.5 - 5.5
10.5/16 = .656
Do I get a "Duh" from you guys?
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 11:08 AM
Lucky Wins & Tough LossesTwo of each this week
SP posted a Lucky Win, with his 45 score good enough to beat only 2 of 13 others.
Turi, playing the semi-conscious Iceman, trounced him with a 47, good enough to beat only 3 of 13 others.
In the Tough Losses department, PL suffered one, just barely, with his 63 good enough to beat 7 of the 13 other scores.
And DMC, with his 64, was good enough to beat 8 of the other 13.
After Week 3
Lucky Tough Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties Ties
-
DJ 3-0-0 1 0 0 0
JG 2-0-1 0 0 0 0
JB 2-1-0 0 1 0 0
DB 2-1-0 0 0 0 0
TU 2-1-0 1 0 0 0
RB 2-1-0 0 0 0 0
CC 2-1-0 2 0 0 0
DM 1-1-1 0 1 0 0
TL 1-2-0 0 0 0 0
SP 1-2-0 1 1 0 0
ZO 1-2-0 0 0 0 0
IM 1-2-0 0 0 0 0
FC 0-3-0 0 0 0 0
PL 0-3-0 0 1 0 0
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 02:14 PM
Week 3 - Head-to-Head Final Scores
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 114 [129] (0)
FC 49 [ 53] (0)
----------------------
PL 63 [75] (0)
DJ 75 [97] (0)
----------------------
JG 94 [105] (0)
ZO 49 [ 61] (0)
----------------------
JB 108 [108] (0)
DM 64 [ 80] (0)
----------------------
RB 20 [49] (0)
SP 45 [47] (0)
----------------------
IM 20 [40] (0)
TU 47 [48] (0)
----------------------
TL 88 [88] (0)
CC 47 [65] (0)
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 02:16 PM
How'd you like the gift of Culpooper I gave you DB? Don't say I never gave you anything. :p
For payback I think as commish you should arrange it that the week we play is Minnesota's bye week.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 02:20 PM
Week 3 - Points Standings
JB 260
JG 235
DB 222
DJ 200
DM 195
TL 188
SP 163
TU 160
FC 133
ZO 132
RB 130
CC 125
PL 120
IM 95
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
DJ 3-0-0 1.00 200 W-3
JG 2-0-1 0.833 235 W-1
JB 2-1-0 0.667 260 W-2
DB 2-1-0 0.667 222 W-1
TU 2-1-0 0.667 160 W-1
RB 2-1-0 0.667 130 L-1
CC 2-1-0 0.667 125 L-1
DM 1-1-1 0.500 195 L-1
TL 1-2-0 0.333 188 W-1
SP 1-2-0 0.333 163 W-1
ZO 1-2-0 0.333 132 L-1
IM 1-2-0 0.333 95 L-1
FC 0-3-0 0.000 133 L-3
PL 0-3-0 0.000 120 L-3
(edit: I fixed up your chart a bit. pl)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
How'd you like the gift of Culpooper I gave you DB? Don't say I never gave you anything. :p
For payback I think as commish you should arrange it that the week we play is Minnesota's bye week. Delhomme and Bryant didn't do so badly either... Too bad you sat them! :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 02:24 PM
I know...I sit, when I should be playing.
This game sucks. I may not play next year.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 04:14 PM
Plaw - The TU/RB "tie" from Week 2 doesn't appear to be a tie any more...
In fact, Yahoo has it 58-52 rather than the 57-52 as reported by DB on Page 10...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 04:21 PM
Hmmm... didn't notice that.
Fixed.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 04:22 PM
Commisioner UpdateI've reset the rosters for DMC and DB to overturn the effect of the near-trade (returning Moss and Heap to DM and Davis and Clayton to DB).
Moss looked really good on my roster - maybe I should put him back!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 04:37 PM
Look who quietly hit 4000 posts! Congrats, Douche! Maybe your biggest fan and pom-poms will start a thread for you.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 04:42 PM
Should we wait?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 04:43 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Douche!
Who's that?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 04:52 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Should we wait?
Okay, maybe I should've said "biggest fan (PL)
or pom-poms (CC)"
I'm sure DB would be honored if you started it, Plaw...
DM - You do realize that "DB" stands for Douche Bag, right? At least in the OLD DAYS when he was a fantasy winner...
:p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 05:09 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] Should we wait?
Okay, maybe I should've said "biggest fan (PL)
or pom-poms (CC)"
I'm sure DB would be honored if you started it, Plaw...
DM - You do realize that "DB" stands for Douche Bag, right? At least in the OLD DAYS when he was a fantasy winner...
:p [/b][/quote]I don't know. The last person I started a congrats thread for gave me a pm to chew me out. Would you do that DB?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
... chew me out. Would you do that DB? *restraining myself*
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 05:16 PM
Oh, did I fail to see a hidden double meaning in that? I'm getting slow in my old age.
Of course, this starts a new page. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 06:19 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
... At least in the OLD DAYS when he was a fantasy winner... :p Wow, a guy wins NASCAR segment 2 and he gets all talky. :p
And this after I said all those kind words to you in the baseball thread...
:p
(Thanks for the congrats, JG. A big thanks to Plaw for your work with thesaurus.com... You guys really shouldn't have.
Seriously, I mean it. You really shouldn't have. Next time, I'll hunt you guys down. :p )
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
I don't know. The last person I started a congrats thread for gave me a pm to chew me out. Would you do that DB? Ummmmmm...
I wouldn't send you a threatening PM, Crabby. By the way, I gave you an award in the baseball thread, just in case you didn't see it. Be sure to pick up your trophy!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 06:26 PM
What Thesaurus? Whaddya think I am, illiterate?
That was right off the top of my head
I couldn't type the words fast enough
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/27/05 09:17 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] Should we wait?
DM - You do realize that "DB" stands for Douche Bag, right? At least in the OLD DAYS when he was a fantasy winner...
:p [/b][/quote]I said who's that because no one knows who the hell he is in the general forum lol
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 04:33 PM
Commissioner Update
DM gets Thomas Jones (RB - Chi), Eddie Kennison (WR - KC) and Kevin Curtis (WR - StL).
DB gets Randy Moss (WR - Oak) and Mewelde Moore (RB - Minn).
DM will drop David Patten (WR - Was).
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 04:34 PM
Another fleecing of a lamb
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 04:38 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Another fleecing of a lamb :(
I think this one helps me out more than the first one lol
Posted By: Freddie C.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 07:07 PM
Wait a second here. I proposed a trade last week to DMC for Randy Moss and I think that mine was a better deal, but it was rejected.
I get: Randy Moss
DMC gets: Marvin Harrison & Jerry Porter
To be honest, I'm a little steamed.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Freddie C.:
Wait a second here. I proposed a trade last week to DMC for Randy Moss and I think that mine was a better deal, but it was rejected.
I get: Randy Moss
DMC gets: Marvin Harrison & Jerry Porter
To be honest, I'm a little steamed.
Marvin Harrison in my eyes is not better than Randy Moss and Jerry Porter adds nothing to my wide receivers. So then I'd be stuck trying to trade Harrison for a good RB AND a WR and an additional wr to make up for lloyd.
Trade might have been good in your eyes but if it doesn't fit my need then I won't make it.
Posted By: Freddie C.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 07:19 PM
How about Harrison and Ahman Green for Moss?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Freddie C.:
How about Harrison and Ahman Green for Moss?
Trade is already in progress lol
Green is not my type (ummmm lol) to be honest with you FC when you proposed the trade I looked at your RB's and didn't see any that suited me.
I honestly could have sworn I wrote that in the little box when I rejected the trade, but I might have been thinking it and didn't type it. Sorry
Posted By: Freddie C.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 07:24 PM
That's cool. I just wanted to have Collins and Moss so then I could double up on their touchdowns.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/29/05 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Freddie C.:
How about Harrison and Ahman Green for Moss?
I think DMC made a better deal than either of your offers, FC.
His starting 5 at RB and WR is now Jones and Johnson at RB, and Kennison, Curtis, and Smith at WR.
With your original deal, he would have had Smith, Porter, and Harrison at WR, which may or may not be better than what he has with the DB trade, but he would have still had DeShaun Foster and Johnson at RB, which is obviously worse than Jones and Johnson.
Your second offer of Harrison and Green leaves DMC with a WR trio of Harrison, Smith, and Lloyd. Harrison is better than Kennison or Curtis, and Lloyd vs. Porter is a toss-up.
But his RBs are upgraded, with Green replacing Foster.
After After
FC's deal DB's Deal
-
RB Green Jones
RB Johnson Johnson
WR Harrison Kennison
WR Smith Smith
WR Lloyd CurtisBased on a bigger edge that I'd give Curtis over Lloyd, vs. maybe no edge, or a very slight one for Green vs. Jones, I'd say DB's deal was better for DMC.
But what the hell do I know? I'm 0-3, and next to last in scoring.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/30/05 04:05 PM
Week 4 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
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DB 00 [00] (9) #3 in scoring vs.
JG 00 [00] (9) #2 in scoring
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PL 00 [00] (9) Battle of...
FC 00 [00] (9) ... No Win Teams
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DJ 00 [00] (9) Unbeaten
CC 00 [00] (9) Looking to rebound
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JB 00 [00] (9) Team is scorching (#1 in scoring)
ZO 00 [00] (9) Underdog
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RB 00 [00] (9) Looking for more production...
DM 00 [00] (9) ... from QBs
----------------------
IM 00 [00] (9) All players are playing!
SP 00 [00] (9) Looking to extend winning streak
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TL 00 [00] (9) Hopes Peyton is asleep for one more week
TU 00 [00] (9) Waiting for Peyton to wake up
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/30/05 05:41 PM
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
After After
FC's deal DB's Deal
-
RB Green Jones
RB Johnson Johnson
WR Harrison Kennison
WR Smith Smith
WR Lloyd Curtis
But what the hell do I know? I'm 0-3, and next to last in scoring.
[b]WAIT A MINUTE !!!! This was
Kevin Curtis, not Issac?
Disregard my original post, then.
FC's deal was much better. Harrison has a much bigger edge over Kennison than any possible edge Jones may have over Green.
As DB said in our deal where you got Lloyd. "He's (Curtis, in this case) no better than someone you could have picked up as a free agent."
It's still not a bad deal for you, DM. You filled a hole, and got a decent replacement for the guy you gave up.
But FC's "too late" offer was better.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 09/30/05 06:02 PM
who's Issac Curtis?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/01/05 01:33 PM
Man, I'm losing it.
Isaac Curtis was a very good WR for the Bengals from 1973-84.
I was thinking of Isaac Bruce.
:rolleyes:
But since I thought that it was Isaac Bruce that you got from DB, my last comment about the trade still stands.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/01/05 08:54 PM
/me raises hand as the original (and still) owner of Issac Bruce since draft day.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/02/05 04:17 AM
the trade still hasn't gone through, any idea DB?
Will it be reflected before 1pm on our rosters? I guess it matters more for you than me this week lol, unless Moss breaks his leg or something&trade :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/02/05 05:26 AM
It should have already been processed. Friggin' Yahoo. :rolleyes:
If it hasn't been done by tomorrow morning, I'll manually change it myself since it's way over the 2 day period. If you see this and if there's any chance you can't change your lineup yourself, can you please PM me who you want as your starters (post-trade) so I can change it for you.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/02/05 11:22 PM
can someone update the scores for us cheapos lol
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/02/05 11:32 PM
What's it worth to you? :p
I'll do it after the PHI game is over...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/02/05 11:45 PM
Week 4 - Pre-Monday Night Game
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 53 [78] (1) S Davis for 28 pts?
JG 80 [82] (0) No one voted for him :P
----------------------
PL 56 [68] (0) Can he get 1st win?
FC 29 [40] (3) Colbert/Ahman/CAR good for 28 pts?
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DJ 94 [94] (0) Looking strong for 4-0
CC 47 [68] (2) Delhomme, Kasay not good for 48 pts
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JB 44 [51] (1) Furguson for 3?
ZO 46 [61] (0) Trying to hang on
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RB 55 [62] (0) Trying to hang on
DM 38 [42] (2) S Smith & Foster for 18 pts?
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IM 70 [83] (0) Improves to 2-2
SP 32 [44] (0) Drops to 1-3
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TL 49 [55] (1) Driver good for 29 pts?
TU 78 [80] (0) Looking to go 3-1
----------------------
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/02/05 11:56 PM
I think I can, I think I can....... :rolleyes:
Posted By: The Iceman
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/03/05 12:07 AM
Holy sh*t I'm up by 40
Thanks in very, very large part to Eli Manning.
And just think I was hesitant to accept the trade that gave him to me.
While I don't want to celebrate too soon, I just don't think Battle, & Barlow will get my opponent at least 41 points for the win.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/03/05 12:25 AM
Now, if only my upcoming exams will go as well as FF is, I'll be happy as a pig in shit!
Please don't let the Panthers randomly get 47+ points tomorrow night...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/03/05 03:03 PM
No one voted for you Pork, including you??
What can I do when someone gets 23 points out of their kicker??
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/04/05 04:57 AM
Week 4 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 68 [80] (0)
JG 80 [82] (0)
----------------------
PL 56 [68] (0)
FC 35 [44] (0)
----------------------
DJ 94 [94] (0)
CC 68 [74] (0)
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JB 47 [48] (0)
ZO 46 [61] (0)
----------------------
RB 55 [62] (0)
DM 41 [45] (0)
----------------------
IM 70 [80] (0)
SP 32 [44] (0)
----------------------
TL 59 [91] (0)
TU 78 [80] (0)
---------------------- Douche - Sometimes when I go to edit one of these standings posts, I get some crazy HTML code, so I had to start over from a previous one. Hopefully you can edit this no prob, since I'm leaving the honors to you to write comments. BTW - Bwahahaha! :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/04/05 10:55 AM
Lucky Wins & Tough Losses Week 4 Lots of 'em this week -- three of each
In the Lucky Wins Department....
- JB was the luckiest. His 47 was good enough to beat only 4 of the other 13 players.
- RB was next. His 55 was good enough to beat only 5 of 13.
- PL's win was barely lucky, but lucky none the less, with his 56 good enough to top 6 of the 13.
And for Tough Losses....
- DB had a toughie, scoring 68, good enough to beat 8 of the 13 others and tying one.
- CC was in the exact same boat with her 68.
- TL's 59 was good enough to beat 7 of the 13 others.
Lucky Tough Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties Ties
-
DJ 4-0-0 1 0 0 0
JG 3-0-1 0 0 0 0
JB 3-1-0 1 1 0 0
TU 3-1-0 1 0 0 0
RB 3-1-0 1 0 0 0
DB 2-2-0 0 1 0 0
CC 2-2-0 2 1 0 0
IM 2-2-0 0 0 0 0
DM 1-2-1 0 1 0 0
TL 1-3-0 0 1 0 0
SP 1-3-0 1 1 0 0
ZO 1-3-0 0 0 0 0
PL 1-3-0 1 1 0 0
FC 0-4-0 0 0 0 0
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/04/05 12:42 PM
Don't feel bad FC. The Packers are also 0-4.
I don't feel bad knowing I have a better record then The Packers. This is one strange NFL season so far.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/04/05 02:35 PM
Week 4 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 68 [80] (0) Takes solace that his optimal doesn't beat JG's
JG 80 [82] (0) Rackers for President
----------------------
PL 56 [68] (0) First Win!
FC 35 [44] (0) Looking for first win!
----------------------
DJ 94 [94] (0) He just keeps rolling...
CC 68 [74] (0) Ran into a freight train
----------------------
JB 47 [48] (0) Squeaks out a win
ZO 46 [61] (0) No RB production
----------------------
RB 55 [62] (0) Finally gets production out of Jones
DM 41 [45] (0) -1 for LJ
----------------------
IM 70 [80] (0) Eli the better Manning?
SP 32 [44] (0) McNabb and little else
----------------------
TL 59 [91] (0) Good score not good enough
TU 78 [80] (0) Peyton wakes up
----------------------
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/04/05 02:41 PM
Week 4 - Points Standings
JG 315
JB 307
DJ 294
DB 290
TL 247
TU 238
DM 236
SP 195
CC 193
RB 185
ZO 178
PL 176
FC 168
IM 165
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
DJ 4-0-0 1.000 294 W-4
JG 3-0-1 0.875 315 W-2
JB 3-1-0 0.750 307 W-3
TU 3-1-0 0.750 238 W-2
RB 3-1-0 0.750 185 W-1
DB 2-2-0 0.500 290 L-1
CC 2-2-0 0.500 193 L-2
IM 2-2-0 0.500 165 W-1
DM 1-2-1 0.375 236 L-2
TL 1-3-0 0.250 247 L-1
SP 1-3-0 0.250 195 L-1
ZO 1-3-0 0.250 178 L-2
PL 1-3-0 0.250 176 W-1
FC 0-4-0 0.000 168 L-4
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/04/05 03:29 PM
Damn good thing TMOAFS isn't playing!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/06/05 03:16 PM
Week 5 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
JB 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 00 [00] (9)
JG 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 00 [00] (9)
FC 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
RB 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
IM 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
TL 00 [00] (9)
SP 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
TU 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9) Commissioner Note: I will be away this weekend and will not be able to update the scores. If JG or PL can do it, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/09/05 07:57 PM
Good thing I just acquired and activated New Orleans "Defense" :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/09/05 08:59 PM
Week 5 - As of 7:15pm Sunday
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 86 [00] (2)
JB 18 [00] (6)
----------------------
JG 28 [00] (3) PUKE
PL 15 [00] (4)
----------------------
DJ 18 [00] (4)
FC 52 [00] (3)
----------------------
RB 47 [00] (2)
ZO 23 [00] (4)
----------------------
IM 57 [00] (3)
DM 46 [00] (4)
----------------------
TL 43 [00] (2)
SP 56 [00] (1)
----------------------
TU 36 [00] (4)
CC 65 [00] (5)
----------------------
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/09/05 11:16 PM
Freakin' pathetic. I would've gained 6 points had I kept the Giants Defense ...on their BYE week. And, I picked the wrong Titan Tight End :rolleyes:
Plaw may just Brees into a victory this week.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/09/05 11:55 PM
What, no whine alert? :rolleyes:
I had Andre Johnson get injured on Houston's first series, and Julius Jones get injured in a game where he would have probably gotten another 10-15 carries and maybe 50-60 more yards.
I think I should stick to poker.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/09/05 11:57 PM
Week 5 - Pre Monday Night [UPDATED]
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 87 [87] (1) Still has LDT
JB 49 [69] (1) Ward not enough
----------------------
JG 28 [43] (1) Pathetic; McCardell vs
PL 18 [32] (2) Brees & Kaeding
----------------------
DJ 26 [57] (2) Roethlisberger & Cladwell
FC 55 [55] (0) Tries to break the unbeaten
----------------------
RB 55 [82] (0) Looks to go 4-1
ZO 23 [33] (1) San Diego D won't cut it
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IM 58 [60] (0) Drops to 2-3
DM 61 [63] (0) Scobee comes through
----------------------
TL 60 [74] (0) Leftwich comes through
SP 56 [91] (0) Cold wings drops to 1-4
----------------------
TU 37 [72] (3) Gonna get beaten by a chick?
CC 67 [78] (0) Looking to go 3-2
----------------------
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/10/05 01:38 AM
9 from my kicker so far
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/10/05 03:19 AM
well the field goal figures are different on ESPN and Yahoo
According to Yahoo though Scobee has :
15 poiints
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/10/05 03:24 AM
According to Yahoo, yep, 15 pts -- which puts you up by 3 with 8 mins to go. Just don't go and miss any field goals...
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/10/05 10:47 AM
30 points is do-able from Gates, Fast Willie and Pitt D. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/10/05 11:00 AM
Who knows, if Turi plays his cards right he just might get lucky. :p
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/10/05 11:01 AM
Awesome Beth. And hopefully my fantasy team does well too.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/10/05 03:37 PM
I just updated the scores - there were some adjustments overnight. Most notably, DJ got 8 more points from somewhere -- now he needs "only" 30 pts to remain undefeated.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/11/05 03:41 PM
Week 5 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 99 [99] (0) Moves up to 4th Place w/ weekly high score
JB 53 [72] (0) Drops to 5th Place
----------------------
JG 28 [43] (0) No longer undefeated, by Plaw of all people :P
PL 37 [43] (0) Moves up to 11th Place
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DJ 40 [64] (0) First Place tie with RB
FC 55 [55] (0) Wins first game by defeating the undefeated :o
----------------------
RB 55 [82] (0) First Place tie with DJ
ZO 28 [33] (0) Would've tied JG at least :/
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IM 58 [60] (0) Drops to 2-3
DM 61 [63] (0) Scobee comes through
----------------------
TL 60 [74] (0) Leftwich comes through
SP 56 [91] (0) Cold wings drops to 1-4
----------------------
TU 52 [81] (0) Beaten by a chick
CC 67 [78] (0) Shaking her pom-poms
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PTS
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DB 3-2-0 .600 389 W-1
JB 3-2-0 .600 360 L-1
JG 3-1-1 .700 343 L-1
DJ 4-1-0 .800 334 L-1
TL 2-3-0 .400 307 W-1
DM 2-2-1 .500 297 W-1
TU 3-2-0 .600 290 L-1
CC 3-2-0 .600 260 W-1
SP 1-4-0 .200 251 L-2
RB 4-1-0 .800 240 W-2
FC 1-4-0 .200 223 W-1
IM 2-3-0 .400 223 L-1
PL 2-3-0 .400 213 W-2
ZO 1-4-0 .200 206 L-3
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/11/05 03:44 PM
Week 5 - Final
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 99 [99] (0) Bounces back
JB 53 [72] (0) Ward not enough
----------------------
JG 28 [43] (0) Looking for help
PL 37 [43] (0) Comes back on MNF
----------------------
DJ 40 [64] (0) First Loss
FC 55 [55] (0) First Win
----------------------
RB 55 [82] (0) Looking strong
ZO 28 [33] (0) San Diego D not enough
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IM 58 [60] (0) Drops to 2-3
DM 61 [63] (0) Scobee comes through
----------------------
TL 60 [74] (0) Leftwich comes through
SP 56 [91] (0) Cold wings drops to 1-4
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TU 52 [81] (0) Not getting enough from #1 pick
CC 67 [78] (0) Looking to get going
----------------------
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/11/05 03:45 PM
Ooh, we get a double treat today. Does this mean I have to shake my pom poms all over again?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/11/05 03:49 PM
Week 5 - Points Standings
DB 389
JB 360
JG 343
DJ 334
TL 307
DM 297
TU 290
CC 260
SP 251
RB 240
IM 223
FC 223
PL 213
ZO 206
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
DJ 4-1-0 0.800 334 L-1
RB 4-1-0 0.800 240 W-2
JG 3-1-1 0.700 343 L-1
DB 3-2-0 0.600 389 W-1
JB 3-2-0 0.600 360 L-1
TU 3-2-0 0.600 290 L-1
CC 3-2-0 0.600 260 W-1
DM 2-2-1 0.500 297 W-1
TL 2-3-0 0.400 307 W-1
IM 2-3-0 0.400 223 L-1
PL 2-3-0 0.400 213 W-2
SP 1-4-0 0.200 251 L-2
FC 1-4-0 0.200 223 W-1
ZO 1-4-0 0.200 206 L-3
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/11/05 03:50 PM
It must be the Commish in me...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/11/05 03:51 PM
As always, thanks for the updates JG!
Quite a weekend. Maybe I should go away more often!
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/11/05 06:34 PM
I just wanna let everyone know that yes I realize I know how lucky I have been getting and no I dont feel at all guilty
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/14/05 02:28 PM
Week 6 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
RB 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 00 [00] (9)
JB 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 00 [00] (9)
JG 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
FC 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
IM 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
TL 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
TU 00 [00] (9)
SP 00 [00] (9)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/16/05 08:11 PM
Week 6 - As of 3:10 PM
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 01 [00] (9)
RB 45 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 28 [00] (9)
JB 54 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 27 [00] (8)
JG 39 [00] (8)
----------------------
FC 31 [00] (8)
CC 51 [00] (8)
----------------------
IM 35 [00] (8)
ZO 12 [00] (5)
----------------------
TL 34 [00] (8)
DM 63 [00] (8)
----------------------
TU 16 [00] (8)
SP 07 [00] (6)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/16/05 09:25 PM
Dillon - you P.O.S. - can you give me *1* yard at least? :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/16/05 09:33 PM
LDT - Rec TD, Rush TD, + PASS TD!
DB's happy...
But will you stop hogging the ball so McCardell can help me out!??
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/16/05 11:59 PM
Minutes before the game I read this:
Oct 16 Patriots running back Corey Dillon is starting in today's game against the Broncos.
Views: Dillon had been listed as questionable with an ankle injury, but perhaps he is another victim of coach Bellichick's abuse of the injury report system. You are safe to keep Dillon in your lineup, as long as your expectations against a stout Broncos run defense are reasonable.
...so I don't put in my backup, Kerry. Kerry would've given me 9 points, and I'm wondering WTF, why isn't Dillon getting any yards??
Then I see this shit:
Oct 16 Dillon (ankle) will not play in Denver on Sunday, CBS reports.
Recommendation: Even though Dillon was dressed to begin the game, head coach Bill Belichick told Bonnie Bernstein he'd made the decision to rest the veteran back. Patrick Pass received most of the work from New England's backfield.
Fucking Belichick.
That 9 pts would've guaranteed me a win this week if Bulger got just 1 point tomorrow night!!!!
Oh yeah. Whine Alert.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/17/05 12:05 AM
Week 6 - Pre-Monday Night Game
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 60 [76] (2) Holt & IND vs
RB 63 [78] (1) Vanderjagt in a tight one
----------------------
PL 46 [55] (2) R Wayne & S McDonald vs
JB 66 [78] (2) E James & STL
----------------------
DJ 55 [64] (0) Shoulda had a kicking Mare
JG 46 [64] (1) Needs 10 from Bulger
----------------------
FC 34 [40] (1) M Harrison
CC 63 [64] (0) Looks pretty safe
----------------------
IM 55 [62] (0) Looks to break .500
ZO 31 [51] (1) Da Clark; Two Byes?? Please...
----------------------
TL 69 [79] (0) The Bye could be costly
DM 63 [66] (1) Curtins to go
----------------------
TU 27 [56] (2) Manning & S Jackson
SP 56 [56] (0) Can he hold on?
----------------------
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/17/05 01:09 AM
Oh, please, please, please let Bulger be intercepted many, many times...and throw no touchdowns.
And if RB could lose, that would help as well.
BTW - if anyone is looking for a kicker, I think Sebs is about to go on the market. :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/17/05 12:59 PM
[whine alert]
Tony Gonzalez: 5 games, 3 fantasy points
Andre Johnson: 4 games, 2 fantasy points
[/whine alert]
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/17/05 01:55 PM
It's apparent that whoever loses between RB and me will be dealt an unlucky loss.
Good matchup this week RB!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/17/05 02:18 PM
BTW - ZO, TL... What's up with the DNPs?? :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 05:59 AM
If it happens to come down to it, in the end... I INSIST ON AN ASTRISK!!
Through NO FAULT OF MY OWN I got screwed *TWICE*
First, Dillon doesn't play after I read that he was, so I kept him in rather than go with my backup, which would've been 9 more points.... enough to tie it up right there!
...AND...
Bulger was on a fucking ROLL -- and needed only TEN freakin' points, most of which he got before he got hurt, before halftime! HE WOULD'VE CLEARED THOSE 10 POINTS EASILY!!
I am NOT whining. I am stating facts. Bad information on Dillon, and, bad fucking luck on Bulger's injury caused this loss. DJ DIDN'T DESERVE TO WIN THIS ONE. It was total LUCK!
So I hope you feel good about that. And if we end up 1 game apart in the end - at least WE know who the REAL winner should be.
I'm fucking disgusted, if you couldn't tell.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 11:37 AM
When did you turn into Al Gore, Geoff? :p
I had similar luck last season. Fo' shizzle. I agree you most likely would have won, and I fully anticipated looking at the scores this morning and seeing my team be 4-2-0. But it was some kind of act of God, I don't know.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 01:57 PM
Wow, close game DB. For a while there I had given up hope because of all the Ints that the Colts were getting. Vanderjagt really saved my ass.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 02:05 PM
As many of you know, I am a big Bill Simmons fan - Bill Simmons is the Sports Guy on ESPN.com. Anyway, a few years ago, he wrote an article on the
13 Levels of Losing (you may need ESPN Insider to access), where he defines gradations of losing. Some losses are run-of-the-mill bad, while some are REALLY BAD, if you know what I mean.
I would say in terms of fantasy football, my loss to RB last night was on a Level II - Stomach Punch loss.
Are you friggin' kidding me? I'm up by one with 5 minutes to play and St. Louis scores a touchdown and they're losing by 19 points. If they kick an extra point, it wouldn't have changed our score.
But they go for 2!!
Of course they get the conversion, and that tacks up a -3 on my defense. Final score, 71 - 69.
Uggggghhhh.
Worst loss I've had in all my years in fantasy football.
I think JG might be a little bit more upset than I am though. What level loss was that for you, Pork?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 02:08 PM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
Wow, close game DB. For a while there I had given up hope because of all the Ints that the Colts were getting. Vanderjagt really saved my ass.
Good matchup RB! I was hoping the Colts would run one of those badboys for a TD but they kept getting stopped.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 02:18 PM
Week 6 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 69 [84] (0) Stomach Punch Loss
RB 71 [80] (0) On a roll
----------------------
PL 54 [63] (0) Sick of Gonzo
JB 89 [98] (0) Back to winning ways
----------------------
DJ 55 [64] (0) *
JG 52 [64] (0)
----------------------
FC 41 [47] (0) Let down by Collins
CC 57 [65] (0) Wins another one
----------------------
IM 55 [62] (0) Breaks .500
ZO 32 [55] (0) Two DNPs... Are you kidding me?
----------------------
TL 69 [79] (0) DNP - Give me a break
DM 72 [75] (0) Curtis saves the day
----------------------
TU 51 [63] (0) Almost pulls of comeback
SP 56 [56] (0) Holds on
----------------------
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 02:22 PM
Week 6 - Points Standings
DB 458
JB 449
JG 395
DJ 389
TL 376
DM 369
TU 341
CC 323
RB 311
SP 307
IM 278
PL 267
FC 264
ZO 238
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
DJ 5-1-0 0.833 389 W-1
RB 5-1-0 0.833 311 W-3
JB 4-2-0 0.667 449 W-1
CC 4-2-0 0.667 323 W-2
JG 3-2-1 0.583 395 L-2
DM 3-2-1 0.583 369 W-2
DB 3-3-0 0.5 458 L-1
TU 3-3-0 0.5 341 L-2
IM 3-3-0 0.5 278 W-1
TL 2-4-0 0.333 376 L-1
SP 2-4-0 0.333 307 W-1
PL 2-4-0 0.333 267 L-1
FC 1-5-0 0.167 264 L-1
ZO 1-5-0 0.167 238 L-4
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 05:00 PM
Both my QB's went down, and my team went to shit.
Now accepting trade proposals for review.Anyone need a good kicker (Vinatieri) for Week 8 and beyond? Or just about anyone else for that matter?
I NEED HELP!!
Turi - I'll give you QB Holcomb for Brunell this week (c'mon, you have Manning for chrissakes!) + next week I'll give you Vinatieri for Peterson (who's off, and you don't have a backup K for Week 8). What say?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 05:06 PM
Hmmmm... I don't think the praying emoticon helps your bargaining position, JG.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 05:09 PM
I suppose I should've sounded less desperate, huh?
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/18/05 05:20 PM
I would like everyone to know that I am open to trade as well. I need a solid RB, so I welcome everyone to throw some deals my way.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/19/05 02:45 PM
Commissioner AlertAs one of my powers as Commish, I am now instituting a new dress code. Whenever you log on to your Yahoo team and on Sundays, I insist that you adhere to the following code:
- Do-Rags and Visible Chains are strictly forbidden for everyone except Plaw - he likes his bling too much
- When contemplating whether to accept anyone's trade proposal or to make any free agent changes during the work week, you must wear black slacks, patent leather shoes and a tucked-in long sleeve shirt; ties are recommended but not mandatory - so in other words, what DMC wears when he gets the morning paper
- No make-up - this means you JG :p
- When setting your final line-up and especially on Sundays, league members must wear a suit jacket, long-sleeve shirt, and dress pants - No white socks, I repeat, no white socks - that is unless you're rooting for Chicago in the World Series
I hope you can all follow this simple and reasonable dress code. This dress code will make us the class of all the GBB leagues. We'll be admired for years to come.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/19/05 03:04 PM
If I shake my pom poms long enough can I be allowed to wear a mini skirt?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 12:48 PM
Updating Lucky Wins and Tough Losses..... Week 5 Lucky win for PL, as his 37 was good enough to beat only 2 others.
Tough loss for IM, with a 58 that was good enought for victory against 9 others.
Tough loss for SP, with a 56 good enough against 8 others.
Week 6 Lucky wins for both JJ and IM with 55, good enough to beat only 5 others and tie one.
Tough losses for DB and and FC, both with 69, good enough to beat 9 others and tie one.
Lucky Tough Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties Ties
-
DJ 5-1-0 2 0 0 0
RB 5-1-0 1 0 0 0
JB 4-2-0 1 1 0 0
CC 4-2-0 2 1 0 0
JG 3-2-1 0 0 0 0
DM 3-2-1 0 1 0 0
DB 3-3-0 0 2 0 0
TU 3-3-0 1 0 0 0
IM 3-3-0 1 1 0 0
TL 2-4-0 0 1 0 0
SP 2-4-0 1 2 0 0
PL 2-4-0 2 1 0 0
FC 1-5-0 0 1 0 0
ZO 1-5-0 0 0 0 0
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 03:02 PM
2 of 3 of my losses were tough losses... Uggggh.
At least I'm still in the running for the overall points lead - which, as we all know - is what counts anyway.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 03:06 PM
I'm sorry, but there was no tougher loss all season than the two doozies I was hit with last week. :rolleyes: :p
...let alone the fact that no one wants to help me this week.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 03:07 PM
Check your Yahoo page Pork... BTW, your PM is full.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 04:28 PM
Thanks, Douche
But I had to say no to you, and I gave you my reasons why.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 04:29 PM
No means no, DB... stop indecently propositioning the Don. Jeez!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 04:39 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Thanks, Douche
But I had to say no to you, and I gave you my reasons why. JG, for some reason, I don't get emails initiated from our Yahoo page. So can you reject me through PM? I'd like to know those reasons.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
No means no, DB... stop indecently propositioning the Don. Jeez!! DMC told me that JG's "no" means he's trying to be coy.
Posted By: Letizia B.
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 04:41 PM
That's just with DM, because they're in
luvvvvv
.
Don't flatter yourself.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 05:56 PM
Commissioner Alert
Due to the threat of Hurricane Wilma, the KC Chiefs - Miami Dolphins game (in Miami) has been moved to this Friday, October 21, at 7 PM Eastern.
Please make changes to your team accordingly.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 06:09 PM
DB - Doesn't it tell you my message when you log in to the yahoo site?
Basically, I couldn't give up a RB for a RB on a bye, then I'd only have one - and the free agent pool is too shallow to find a decent replacement. And uh, what else - The Big Bulge may return for Week 10, so I think I'll wait it out for now. And, your QB has a bye Week 9 so I'd be in the same boat anyway. I would have considered your offer if your RB was playing this week, though. I think that's it.
Anyone need Vinatieri for Week 8+?
quote:
Originally posted by Letizia B.:
No means no, DB... stop indecently propositioning the Don. Jeez!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 06:18 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
DB - Doesn't it tell you my message when you log in to the yahoo site? Actually, I don't know how you get those messages. When you rejected the trade, the link on my yahoo page just disappeared. This leads me to believe that those types of messages are emailed, but since I've had Yahoo email problems, I didn't get it through email either.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 06:26 PM
JG - Just sent you another proposal, fixing for the problems you stated earlier. Let me know what you think.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 06:36 PM
Lemme guess.....
McCown for McCardell?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/20/05 06:41 PM
Nope, guess again.
WR is my weak spot though. Wouldn't be that way if Clayton would just play up to his draft status.
:rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/21/05 07:09 PM
Week 7 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 08 [00] (7)
RB 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 08 [00] (8)
JB 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
FC 10 [00] (8)
JG 00 [00] (8)
----------------------
TL 10 [00] (8)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
TU 00 [00] (9)
DM 12 [00] (7)
----------------------
SP 00 [00] (9)
CC 17 [00] (7)
----------------------
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/22/05 02:22 AM
Frerotte
Great. 0 pts from my QB. :rolleyes:
Those Yahoo "projected points" are bullshit. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/23/05 11:20 AM
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/23/05 08:31 PM
Week 7 - As of 3:30 PM CDT
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 48 [00] (5)
IM 29 [00] (5)
----------------------
PL 33 [00] (3)
RB 27 [00] (6)
----------------------
DJ 36 [00] (6)
JB 57 [00] (3)
----------------------
FC 30 [00] (4)
JG 19 [00] (6)
----------------------
TL 60 [00] (4)
ZO 26 [00] (5)
----------------------
TU 65 [00] (4)
DM 66 [00] (3)
----------------------
SP 24 [00] (8)
CC 23 [00] (4)
----------------------
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/23/05 09:42 PM
I can't believe I'm losing to a 1-5 team, after getting totally screwed last week, and losing to lowly Plaw the previous week... :rolleyes:
WTF happened??!!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/23/05 11:20 PM
Man, did i screw up this week.
I picked up the Washington defense earlier this week, figuring to use them against the 49ers.
Thing is, though, I completely forgot that I used KC last week, and with their game moved to Friday I wound up with them again today.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/23/05 11:59 PM
Giants baby! Whoot Whoot!!!
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/24/05 12:04 AM
Any updated points?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/24/05 12:14 AM
Week 7 - Pre Monday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 88 [104] (0)
IM 45 [68] (2) Jenkins & Baker
----------------------
PL 33 [50] (0)
RB 30 [33] (1) Vick
----------------------
DJ 49 [49] (1) Crumpler
JB 70 [70] (0)
----------------------
FC 59 [64] (0)
JG 31 [53] (0)
----------------------
TL 62 [85] (1) Duckett
ZO 46 [56] (0)
----------------------
TU 75 [86] (1) Peterson
DM 75 [75] (0)
----------------------
SP 21 [37] (1) CMartin
CC 32 [35] (2) Coles & Dunn
----------------------
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/24/05 12:28 AM
Damn, I thought I did better than that, especially since watching Pittsburgh own Palmer all day. Crap.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/24/05 09:54 AM
Oh c'mon Todd Peterson. Just a few through the sticks will do. I canne have a tie (or negative points for a loss). Whatever happens it'll be another tough loss for Plaw to get excited about. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/24/05 04:04 PM
ZO - Another 2 DNPs? For a guy who claimed to be a 10-year pro and was so eager to join our league, you sure are turning into one of those participants that people dislike to play with. :rolleyes:
So much for your assurance that you gave me at the beginning of the season that you'll play every week even if you're not doing well... :rolleyes:
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/25/05 01:59 AM
The Jets are looking U-G-L-Y!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/25/05 02:45 AM
Is it just me, but does anyone else find that "I Like It, I Love It" song they do every halftime during Monday Night Football annoying?
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/25/05 02:47 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Is it just me, but does anyone else find that "I Like It, I Love It" song they do every halftime during Monday Night Football annoying?
Week 1 it was okay
Week 2 it was decent
week 7 flat out annoying
Kinda like Sports Center doing that thing with that song that ends with "and the twins" :rolleyes:
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/25/05 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
ZO - Another 2 DNPs? For a guy who claimed to be a 10-year pro and was so eager to join our league, you sure are turning into one of those participants that people dislike to play with. :rolleyes:
So much for your assurance that you gave me at the beginning of the season that you'll play every week even if you're not doing well... :rolleyes:
Yeah he's pissing me off too, and there's another in the Pigskin pick em that hasn't been playing all season. I feel like I want to punish them. Next year we should arrange forfeits.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/25/05 02:08 PM
Week 7 - Final Results
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 88 [104] (0) Bounces back
IM 45 [68] (0) No points from MNF players
----------------------
PL 33 [50] (0) Vick too much
RB 38 [43] (0) Better to be lucky than good
----------------------
DJ 52 [50] (0) Drops to 3rd place
JB 70 [70] (0) Vaults to 2nd place
----------------------
FC 59 [64] (0) Second win of the season
JG 31 [53] (0) Likens team to Tom Petty song
----------------------
TL 62 [85] (0) Strong even with down Alexander
ZO 46 [56] (0) 10 year vet? 10 years old?
----------------------
TU 85 [96] (0) Nice start of Parker
DM 69 [69] (0) Tough loss
----------------------
SP 29 [51] (0) Tough week
CC 43 [60] (0) Can wear miniskirts
----------------------
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/25/05 02:10 PM
Week 7 - Points Standings
DB 546
JB 519
DM 444
DJ 441
TL 438
TU 426
JG 426
CC 366
RB 349
SP 336
IM 323
FC 323
PL 300
ZO 284
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
RB 6-1-0 0.857 349 W-4
JB 5-2-0 0.714 519 W-2
DJ 5-2-0 0.714 441 L-1
CC 5-2-0 0.714 366 W-3
DB 4-3-0 0.571 546 W-1
TU 4-3-0 0.571 426 W-1
DM 3-3-1 0.500 444 L-1
JG 3-3-1 0.500 426 L-3
TL 3-4-0 0.429 438 W-1
IM 3-4-0 0.429 323 L-1
SP 2-5-0 0.286 336 L-1
FC 2-5-0 0.286 323 W-1
PL 2-5-0 0.286 300 L-2
ZO 1-6-0 0.143 284 L-5
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/26/05 10:58 AM
OK my trade proposal from another member was turned down so I'll advertise publicly. I'm after a good WR and due to Heath Millers rookie progress I'm willing to trade Antonio Gates. Talk about a solid TE, he's the man. Or I have a solid RB with trade value too - Fred Taylor.
Send me a PM or propose it to me on Yahoo.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/29/05 02:53 PM
[Trade Update]
Turi gets Jermaine Wiggins (TE - Min) and Joe Horn (WR - NO). Turi drops Tennessee Defense.
IM gets Antonio Gates (TE - SD).
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/29/05 02:58 PM
Week 8 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
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DB 00 [00] (9)
TL 00 [00] (9)
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PL 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
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DJ 00 [00] (9)
RB 00 [00] (9)
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FC 00 [00] (9)
JB 00 [00] (9)
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JG 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9)
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TU 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
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SP 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/29/05 03:08 PM
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/29/05 11:55 PM
You were doomed from the start anyway, Plaw, with that draft.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/30/05 07:52 AM
Yeah, really... What did you really expect??
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/30/05 11:37 AM
I dunno......My draft wasn't so terrible if i had kept the friggin' players I drafted
If I hadn't made the aforementioned dumb trade, plus the one with Beth where I gave her Priest Holmes, Laverneus Coles, and Randy McMichael for Rudi Johnson and Tony Gonzalez......
Manning, coming off of last year, figured to be my backup QB and only get used once, so by giving him up I figured it was costing me basically nothing.
So in the two trades combined (excluding Manning),
I gave up Holmes, McMichael, Coles, and Moss
And got back the two Johnsons and Gonzalez.
The key factors in the outcome here are that Gonzalez (who figured to be the best player I was getting) and A. Johnson have done absolutely nothing all season, while Santana Moss is having a career year.
Had I not made those two deals, I bet I'd be 4-3 instead of 2-5.
Ah well, basketball starts this week.....
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/30/05 03:47 PM
I was only breaking balls Plaw. You're first week team, on paper, should be a decent and solid team. Tony G has been the biggest shock, 8 points all season!
For anyone who's interested the Pittsburgh Post Gazette ran an article about the 'Steel Nation':
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05274/580710.stm which received plenty of replies. His follow up mentions quotes my email to him:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05295/592935.stm
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/30/05 08:04 PM
4 int's for Favre
edit: 5 int's
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/30/05 09:11 PM
Week 8 - As of 3:10 Central
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 26 [00] (8)
TL 07 [00] (4)
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PL 51 [00] (4)
IM 16 [00] (4)
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DJ 26 [00] (7)
RB 40 [00] (8)
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FC 52 [00] (5)
JB 61 [00] (3)
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JG 40 [00] (7)
CC 60 [00] (2)
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TU 15 [00] (5)
ZO 18 [00] (6)
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SP 10 [00] (7)
DM 39 [00] (7)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/30/05 09:34 PM
Whoo hoo! Go Bears!
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/30/05 11:56 PM
Iceman, you're gonna love Gates. He's done me well today.
RB - any chance you're wanting Fred Taylor now?
Fred Taylor is still on my trading block if anyone wants him. Serious offers only. I want a proper WR.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 12:14 AM
Where the hell did RB get 40 points from???
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 12:53 AM
Week 8 - Pre-Sunday Night Football
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 67 [00] (1) Moulds left
TL 20 [00] (0) Two DNPs? :rolleyes:
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PL 83 [00] (0) Gonzo scores
IM 24 [00] (0) Coulda used Gates this week
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DJ 51 [00] (2) Brady, McGahee vs.
RB 60 [00] (1) Branch
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FC 58 [00] (1) Graham vs.
JB 70 [00] (1) Ward
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JG 50 [00] (2) Mason, Dillon
CC 62 [00] (0) 24 points from Delhomme
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TU 40 [00] (3) Givens, Parker, Pitt Def
ZO 44 [00] (0) Another DNP :rolleyes:
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SP 52 [00] (3) Evans, Lindell, Buff Def vs.
DM 63 [00] (2) Heap, Reed
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Iceman, you're gonna love Gates. He's done me well today.
RB - any chance you're wanting Fred Taylor now?
Fred Taylor is still on my trading block if anyone wants him. Serious offers only. I want a proper WR.
Yea I think Im gonna have to take another look. I didnt think he was even gonna be playing. Bad call on my part.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 04:32 AM
[cough]How'd you like my anti-jinx there, JG?[/b]
In my defense, I DID say that if Dillon has a big day, you had a chance to pull off the victory.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 04:34 AM
Is there anyway to kick zo out of the league?
It's almost a guaranteed win against him. :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
How'd you like my anti-jinx there, JG? You da man!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 02:53 PM
Week 8 - Pre-Monday Night Football
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 79 [86] (0) Wish players would play full teams :ohwell:
TL 20 [38] (0) Two DNPs? :rolleyes:
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PL 83 [83] (0) Gonzo scores
IM 24 [46] (0) Coulda used Gates this week
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DJ 65 [72] (0) Wishes the Brady TD wasn't to Branch
RB 72 [72] (0) He just keeps rolling
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FC 58 [71] (0) Team better than record indicates
JB 64 [70] (1) Ward left
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JG 65 [81] (1) Mason left
CC 62 [69] (0) 24 points from Delhomme
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TU 42 [65] (2) Lucky to face ZO this week; Parker, Pitt D
ZO 44 [84] (0) Another DNP :rolleyes:
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SP 69 [69] (0) Watching MNF intently
DM 63 [64] (2) Heap, Reed
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 02:55 PM
God bless Branch
.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 03:08 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
Is there anyway to kick zo out of the league?
My suggestion?
1- Take the loss off the record of the one person (or possibly two after this week) who he beat, and take the wins off the record of those who beat him, but count the points they scored in games against him in the overall points standings since his playing or not had no influence over those.
2- Give everyone who hasn't played him yet a bye for that week, but have them still pick their team for that week and count the points they score in the overall points standings.
3- Hold a dispersal draft of his players, based on either the reverse order of the current standings, the reverse order of the original draft, or everyone's current waiver position.
4- Tar and feather Zo, run him out of town on a rail, or lock him in a room for 12 hours and force him to either have a conversation with DeNiro or play the Capitals game with Irishman.
Edit: After looking at his roster, he really doesn't have enough useful players to make any kind of dispersal draft fair, so I would just freeze his roster and have his players be ineligible.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[cough]How'd you like my anti-jinx there, JG?
In my defense, I DID say that if Dillon has a big day, you had a chance to pull off the victory. From Yahoo.....
...fantasy owners who started Dillon this week appear to have caught a big break because of the Pass injury, as Dillon didn't enter the game until after his backup limped off.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 06:03 PM
You missed this quote. :p
Oct 30 Dillon (ankle) is listed as active for Sunday's game against the Bills.
Recommendation: Assuming Dillon is not used as a decoy as he was in Week 6 - and his presence at practice late in the week would suggest otherwise, he has a chance to put up good numbers against what has been a soft Bills' run defense.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 06:06 PM
I knew that 20 point lead I had yesterday was too good to be true.
Is that Derek Mason you have Geoff? Now I feel so much better. He should be good for -5 points at least. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 10/31/05 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Is that Derek Mason you have Geoff? Now I feel so much better. He should be good for -5 points at least. :p
Now THAT would REALLY suck!! Dammit, thanks for bursting my bubble!! :p
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 04:17 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b] Is there anyway to kick zo out of the league?
My suggestion?
1- Take the loss off the record of the one person (or possibly two after this week) who he beat, and take the wins off the record of those who beat him, but count the points they scored in games against him in the overall points standings since his playing or not had no influence over those.
2- Give everyone who hasn't played him yet a bye for that week, but have them still pick their team for that week and count the points they score in the overall points standings.
3- Hold a dispersal draft of his players, based on either the reverse order of the current standings, the reverse order of the original draft, or everyone's current waiver position.
4- Tar and feather Zo, run him out of town on a rail, or lock him in a room for 12 hours and force him to either have a conversation with DeNiro or play the Capitals game with Irishman.
Edit: After looking at his roster, he really doesn't have enough useful players to make any kind of dispersal draft fair, so I would just freeze his roster and have his players be ineligible. [/b][/quote]I agree with what Plaw suggests about Zo's inactivity. It is completely unfair to punish teams who have a loss merely because they had the poor luck to play Zo in one of the weeks he decided to participate, while another team gets an automatic win simply because they where lucky enough to play against a non-competitor. (I would know, I beat Zo earlier this year despite my shittiest week of the year by far. I don't know if it was a DNP, but it was still a loss for me in every which way but the final score.
) If it's a Pick Em or totally points based league and you don't participate you only hurt yourself, (Which kind of makes me wonder by people get so upset about it. Why would you be mad that others are doing shitty? :rolleyes: ) but in a head to head league, you have to honor your commitment because it's a commitment to your fellow leaguemates, not just yourself.
I think if we did do this, we would have to just freeze Zo's team, as Plaw states, and not disperse his players. There is absolutely no fair and equitable way to simply award a first rounder, or any high round pick for that matter, from one team to another for no compensation halfway through the year. A waiver system is designed to ensure that teams with the most need get first crack at players, but those are midseason pickups, many of whom were never even drafted in the first place, not studs who can anchor a team. I would think that the fact that he really doesn't have any dominant players on his team would lend more viability to a dispersal draft, rather than being used in an argument against it. Personally, I would be a lot less likely to complain if a team was simply awarded Derek Mason than I would if a team recieved LDT at midseason simply because their team sucked big, floppy donkey dicks as a result of their own doing.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 04:28 AM
I would think that the fact that he really doesn't have any dominant players on his team
he does have TO.
As far as kicking him out I meant to kick him out and replace him with someone.
What really annoys me is that he was doing everything he could to get in the league, then we let him in and he doesn't play.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 10:26 AM
The problem with replacing him is that someone else will start to play, and maybe pick up a couple of wins.
I didn't play him yet....I want the same circumstances to apply when I do as did for everyone who played him already and got a win.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 02:19 PM
Week 9 - Pre-Monday Night Football
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 79 [86] (0) Wish players would play full teams :ohwell:
TL 20 [38] (0) Two DNPs? :rolleyes:
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PL 83 [83] (0) Gonzo scores
IM 24 [46] (0) Coulda used Gates this week
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DJ 65 [78] (0) Wishes the Brady TD wasn't to Branch
RB 72 [72] (0) He just keeps rolling
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FC 58 [71] (0) Team better than record indicates
JB 67 [79] (0) Big day from Tiki
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JG 69 [82] (0) Came back from 20 points down
CC 62 [69] (0) 24 points from Delhomme
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TU 54 [67] (0) Lucky to face ZO this week
ZO 44 [84] (0) Another DNP :rolleyes:
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SP 69 [69] (0) Loses a tough one
DM 73 [73] (0) Wins a close one
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 02:28 PM
Week 8 - Points Standings
DB 625
JB 592
DM 516
DJ 505
JG 495
TU 480
TL 458
CC 428
RB 421
SP 405
PL 383
FC 381
IM 347
ZO 328
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
RB 7-1-0 0.875 421 W-5
JB 6-2-0 0.750 592 W-3
DB 5-3-0 0.625 625 W-2
DJ 5-3-0 0.625 505 L-2
TU 5-3-0 0.625 480 W-2
CC 5-3-0 0.625 428 L-1
DM 4-3-1 0.563 516 W-1
JG 4-3-1 0.563 495 W-1
TL 3-5-0 0.375 458 L-1
PL 3-5-0 0.375 383 W-1
IM 3-5-0 0.375 347 L-2
SP 2-6-0 0.250 405 L-2
FC 2-6-0 0.250 381 L-1
ZO 1-7-0 0.125 328 L-6
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 03:21 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
The problem with replacing him is that someone else will start to play, and maybe pick up a couple of wins.
I didn't play him yet....I want the same circumstances to apply when I do as did for everyone who played him already and got a win.
Good point plaw. I do agree with you.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 03:32 PM
Lucky Wins & Tough Losses Update Week 7: RB has a lucky win, with his 38 good enough to beat only 3 others.
CC has a lucky win; her 43 beats only 4 others.
DM sustains a tough loss. His 69 was good enough to beat 10 others.
Week 8: TU gets a lucky win with 54, good enough to beat only 3 others.
SP has a tough loss, with his 69 good enough to beat 8 others and tie one.
Standings:
Actual Lucky Tough
Wins Losses
-
RB 7-1-0 2 0
JB 6-2-0 1 1
DB 5-3-0 0 2
DJ 5-3-0 2 0
TU 5-3-0 2 0
CC 5-3-0 3 1
DM 4-3-1 0 2
JG 4-3-1 0 0
TL 3-5-0 0 1
PL 3-5-0 2 1
IM 3-5-0 1 1
SP 2-6-0 1 3
FC 2-6-0 0 1
ZO 1-7-0 0 0
Helped the most so far by the schedule are RB, DJ, TU, and CC, all with a net of +2 lucky wins minus tough losses.
Hurt the most are DB, DM, and SP, all -2.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 08:09 PM
Commissioner Update
I've been thinking a lot about this "Inactive Player" situation over the last couple of days. What we have here is a situation where inactive players are affecting the results and standings of the league because of their refusal to take five minutes just to make sure everyone in their rosters are active.
As plaw likes to say, we are now on a very slippery slope.
On the one hand, more than anybody, I'd like to kick these players out, go back in the past and erase all effects of their "participation."
On the other hand, we all signed up for head-to-head knowing that a lot of luck is involved. One variable is scheduling - Plaw likes to point out tough losses and lucky wins. Another variable is the bye week - I considered myself lucky (among other reasons) that my opponent had Shaun Alexander on bye this past weekend. All things being equal, Bethie might consider herself lucky in Week 10 when she faces JB who will have Carson Palmer and Chad Johnson on bye. Who's to say that facing an "Inactive Player" isn't just another part of the luck involved?
My whole issue is if we do decide to make a change, where does it stop? We've all been calling it the ZO situation, but there are a number of other players out there who have non-playing players in their lineups - they know who they are. Heck, the last two Sundays, I've had one non-playing player (due to a last minute announcement that I didn't catch until it was too late). What should we do about them?
In the end, I think making any wholesale changes to the league and the standings will do more harm than good. I tend towards the argument that we are at the mercy of luck. We play this game controlling only our own team. Hopefully, you can set the best team possible to match up against your opponent, who you have no control over. If your team is good enough to beat your opponent, you should get a win. If your team is not good enough to beat your opponent that week, whether he was active and inactive, you should take a loss.
Here is my suggestion of what we should do:
1 - Lock ZO's team - His current roster will stand. No changes will be made from it. ZO's remaining opponents will play this locked roster from here on out. No trades or free agent transactions will be made by this team. The results of that week's matchup against ZO's team will count in the standings.
2 - I am putting TL on notice for the same infractions. If you have one more week like you did last weekend, your team will be locked as well.
3 - I will leave the standings as is.
What this teaches us is if we are going to do head-to-head leagues, we should be careful about who participates. With that said, I propose that next year's league be by invitation only.
Please let me know what you think.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 08:21 PM
Maybe this season should be chalked up to all you stated above. Make this a learning experience and do what was suggested earlier. Make this an invitation only game next year. We'll know then that only the serious player will be the ones to be invited.
(I guess I shouldn't wait for my invite then.)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 09:28 PM
I agree that Zo's team should remain. I beat Zo fair and square early on, while he was playing, and wouldn't want that taken away from me. Zo also beat someone fair and square, and that should stand as well.
He didn't even start this crap until Week 5 or 6, so all those games before that are legit. I'm not sure I agree with locking his team - what if he comes back? If he comes back, then the remaining competition will be as it should be, minimizing the "Zo Factor" to only 2-3 weeks rather than for the remainder of the entire season.
[Okay, I just checked and it seems he hasn't even been on the BB since September 22, so the likelihood of him returning is small. In any event, I think he should have the chance to return. "Punishing" him by not allowing him to change his team only punishes the league in that future matchups won't necessarily be as competitive to those who have yet to play him.]
It's likely that Zo will not win again - so what difference does it really make if everyone beats him (but one person, who lost fair and square), in the standings? Sure, he could've had more wins -- but one way to look at it is, if we all win against him, it doesn't really effect the standings because we all got the same results.
Note: I also agree that future head-to-head games be by invite only, but, I want it to be clear that that doesn't mean people are necessarily not going to be invited if they never played. If "new people" play the non head-to-head games in a competitive manner, then they have a chance of being invited as well, once they've proven themselves. That, of course, does not include Zo. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 09:44 PM
By locking his team, I am, in effect, kicking him out of the league. He hasn't earned the right to be trusted and he certainly shouldn't be in a position to choose when and who he wants to play.
I do agree with you that if we all win (save FC), then it hasn't really affected the standings much. By locking his team though, it just sends a message that we aren't going to put up with the crap.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 09:46 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
... but, I want it to be clear that that doesn't mean people are necessarily not going to be invited if they never played. If "new people" play the non head-to-head games in a competitive manner, then they have a chance of being invited as well, once they've proven themselves.
I agree completely. Otherwise, DMC wouldn't be in this league and JG would be lost. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 09:55 PM
I defer to your judgement, commish. Whatever you decide is OK with me.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] ... but, I want it to be clear that that doesn't mean people are necessarily not going to be invited if they never played. If "new people" play the non head-to-head games in a competitive manner, then they have a chance of being invited as well, once they've proven themselves.
I agree completely. Otherwise, DMC wouldn't be in this league and JG would be lost. :p [/b][/quote]I agree with JG's post and DB's post above this one.
I'm lucky I wasn't thrown out for the Julius Jones trade
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 10:02 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I agree with JG's post and DB's post above this one.
Trying to go both ways, huh? :p
We do basically agree, except for the way to "punish" non-players. But I have no problem playing it by the Commish's decision...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 10:52 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I'm lucky I wasn't thrown out for the Julius Jones trade Yeah.....I got a whole game and a half out of him. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 11:03 PM
Paging Dr. Bitterman... Dr. Bitterman, you are needed in the emergency room. :p
Posted By: Big Daddy Don
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/01/05 11:48 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
The problem with replacing him is that someone else will start to play, and maybe pick up a couple of wins.
I didn't play him yet....I want the same circumstances to apply when I do as did for everyone who played him already and got a win.
Can I have access to Zo's team the week he plays PL ?
See now you guys are warming up to the thought of an invitation only league. Two years ago, you mocked me for that. I am just a man before my time - a trendsetter .. :rolleyes:
It does suck when somebody just bows out. As Commish I believe DB can at least set a lineup and let it go. Now that byes are over you should be able to set a healthy starting lineup going forward - at least make it somewhat competitive.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 12:04 AM
Plaws wants/needs the cheap "free" win, so he'll never go for that...
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 12:07 AM
Right. That would not be fair to everyone who hasn't played him yet.
Wuss.....
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 12:25 AM
Can something be cheap and free at the same time?
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 12:37 AM
But what if the final games come down to a win/loss against Zo? I mean, shouldn't all of Zo's games just remain the way they are?
What I'm saying is, by eliminating him, the teams that haven't played him are denied a win/loss. But the teams that have clearly have an advantage...unless I'm misunderstanding how the system is going to work in post-Zo terms.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 01:47 AM
We're eliminating him as a player, but we're not eliminating his team. His team will stay as it is currently set (and has been set for the last few weeks) and the results against that team until the end of the season will count.
Makes sense now?
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 02:19 AM
That helps. I know there was talk of only counting the points against his team, but I'm glad to see the wins/losses will remain.
Thanks commish.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
2 - I am putting TL on notice for the same infractions. If you have one more week like you did last weekend, your team will be locked as well.
Let me defend Tony Love in this situation. He left a few active places on byes but he didn't really have the personnel to replace them. Personally I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and maybe was unprepared for this week. The more serious and experienced players would plan for that. But we're not going to do all the same research and have the same game philosophy. Mind you, how long has Eric Johnson been on IR?
I am so pissed off with Zo. What's even more annoying is when you can see he's on Yahoo messenger (from the league table) so he's obviously online. I'd kick him off the BB as well.
Don't forget to invite me next season! I want to be the first limey on the 'Latest Game Winners' tribute and beat yous yanks at you're own game. How embarrassing would that be?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 02:49 PM
TL's mistake wasn't a first time thing. Eric Johnson has been nowhere near the field all season and he was in the TL's lineup for the first 3 weeks of the season (and he's still on his roster :rolleyes: ). This, compounded by a bye-week play in Week 6 and the no-plays last week, is what I'm pointing to.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/02/05 11:52 PM
Boy, I must really be out of the loop in football. I just heard Tedy Bruschi was named Defensive player of the week, and I didn't even know he started back playing this week. WTG!!!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/04/05 09:20 PM
Week 9 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
TU 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 00 [00] (9)
TL 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
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FC 00 [00] (9)
RB 00 [00] (9)
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JG 00 [00] (9)
JB 00 [00] (9)
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SP 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
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DM 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 05:32 PM
Douche - Are you gonna fill in TL's empty roster slots if he doesn't? It doesn't appear he has a TE (is Mili back?) but I think at least you should stick Alexander in there...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 08:28 PM
Douche?
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 08:36 PM
Maybe someone can give our douchebag a helping hand today.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 08:38 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Douche? Do we need to have an invitation only Commish too? :p
Sorry I couldn't resist
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 09:04 PM
I kidnapped him. Holding him prisoner until 4:05
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 09:25 PM
Well the prisoner's sentence is up plaw. Why are you holding him longer then he should be? :p
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 09:37 PM
I thought I was looking good until DMC's Johnson had to find a way to score at the last possible second. :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 10:05 PM
I suppose TL's DNP's don't really matter at this point. :rolleyes:
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 10:07 PM
can we get an update please
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 10:18 PM
Does the holding penalty on the 49'ers wipe out Lloyd's points for his catch?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 10:19 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
can we get an update please 
+ = Guess so. Gimme a couple minutes. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/06/05 10:25 PM
Week 9 - As of 5:25PM Sunday
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 62 [00] (3)
TU 25 [00] (7)
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PL 35 [00] (3)
TL 01 [00] (3) Two DNPs
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DJ 30 [00] (4)
IM 32 [00] (4)
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FC 51 [00] (4)
RB 53 [00] (6)
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JG 34 [00] (5)
JB 31 [00] (5)
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SP 12 [00] (4) One DNP
ZO 05 [00] (2) Two DNPs
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DM 54 [00] (4)
CC 51 [00] (2)
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Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 12:34 AM
Hey DB, how about Willie Parker for LT? :rolleyes: How the hell am I supposed to win against that beast? And Brad Johnson, man I thought you were insane to put him in but you're other QB was on a bye. So now I'm going to throw some obscene language at you: Bugger, fanny, shit, piss flap, Bitch cock.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 01:04 AM
Week 9 - Pre Sunday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 67 [74] (1) Indy Def vs
TU 29 [52] (2) Manning & Givens
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PL 35 [43] (2) Talk about a cheap win
TL 05 [55] (1) 55 OPT w/ 2 DNPs :/
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DJ 41 [41] (2) Brady & Westbrook vs
IM 33 [33] (2) S Moss & Sellers
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FC 55 [56] (2) Harrison & Graham vs
RB 56 [74] (2) Branch & Vanderjagt
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JG 43 [46] (1) Dillon vs
JB 34 [40] (1) E James
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SP 17 [35] (1) McNabb vs
ZO 05 [26] (2) TO & Da Clark
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DM 61 [62] (0) Fending off Bethie's tight end
CC 52 [59] (1) L Smith for 10?
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Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 03:56 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Douche - Are you gonna fill in TL's empty roster slots if he doesn't? It doesn't appear he has a TE (is Mili back?) but I think at least you should stick Alexander in there...
Sorry I've been MIA guys... Busy Sunday.
As for TL, his roster will be locked. I said I was going to give him this weekend to shape up and that if he screws up, then his team will be ZO-ed.
As for what to do with his empty roster spots, I'm up for opinions as to what to do. Fill it with Alexander and Mili? Leave it alone? I have my thoughts but I want to hear from you guys first.
(BTW, I can also add back players retroactively... i.e. stick Alexander in there for this week's matchup. Just as an FYI...)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 04:00 AM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Hey DB, how about Willie Parker for LT? :rolleyes: How the hell am I supposed to win against that beast? And Brad Johnson, man I thought you were insane to put him in but you're other QB was on a bye. So now I'm going to throw some obscene language at you: Bugger, fanny, shit, piss flap, Bitch cock.
I didn't feel good about this week's matchup at all, with all my byes, injuries, and Brad Johnson as my QB. LT saved my day.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 04:07 AM
I don't think its fair to put Alexander back in against plaw, he did win his matchup. But if we lock his roster then Alexander and the TE have to stay off. Just my 2 cents.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 04:59 AM
Thomas Jones :rolleyes:
DonMichaelCorleone Hotel "Running Backs checkin but they don't check out"
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 04:59 AM
I'm still waiting for TL to
chime in here....
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 05:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I'm still waiting for TL to chime in here....
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 09:19 AM
If you put Alexander in for this week it doesn't affect the final score, only TL's overall points total, so I don't think it makes much of a difference, but you left ZO's lineup the same this week with two guys on their bye and Rattay as QB instead of Trent Green.
And how about Zo? You gonna lock his lineup with Rattay in there?
This is a mess, alright.
A guy doesn't play for a few weeks, and a few people pick up easy wins. Then he gets chided for it and reminded to play, and he does, and the people who have to play him later don't have the same benefit of obtaining the easy win .
I think if this happens in the future we should all just keep out mouths shut and let the chips fall where they may.
Suppose someone doesn't play for a few weeks, and DB gets accused of not saying anything to them until after he plays them, for example?
Suppose I'm fighting for first place, and my rival is playing one of them the following week, so I PM the guy who hasn't played or something, and remind him or beg him to change his lineup this week?
Now, is it fair to put Alexander back before freezing TL's roster?
No, because why shouldn't everyone else who plays him going forward have the same advantage as I did this week?
Is it fair to freeze TL's roster with Alexander inactive?
No, because why should the people who play TL going forward have a bigger advantage than those who played him already, keeping in mind that two people lost to him.
I think I'm back to thinking that the fairest thing to do is completely eliminate the W-L results of their games from the league standings.
It wasn't fair that the combined three losses suffered at their hands came at the beginning of the season when they were competing, and that everyone else who played them later is in effect getting a free win.
I would, of course, keep everyone's points scored against them intact for the overall points race, and in the coming weeks those of us scheduled against either would have a head-to-head bye, but still have to set their teams because their points would count towards overall points.
I think what we need to condentrate on here is the three people (I'm assuming that they are three different people - I haven't looked - but it doesn't really matter) who lost to them and had the disadvantage of playing them while they were still competing, rather than protecting the advantage of those who played, or will play, them when they weren't.
True, luck is a factor in a H-T-H game, but if I score 90 when my opponent scores 100, that could happen to anyone. At least the playing field was level.
In this case, it is not.
I think the fairest thing to do is to treat them as if they never existed.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 04:35 PM
Week 9 - Pre Monday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 67 [74] (1) Indy Def vs
TU 29 [54] (2) Manning & Givens
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PL 37 [45] (1) Wayne
TL 14 [64] (0) 2 DNPs :/
----------------------
DJ 44 [41] (1) Brady left
IM 43 [33] (0) Almost
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FC 55 [56] (2) Harrison & Graham vs
RB 56 [74] (2) Branch & Vanderjagt
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JG 44 [47] (1) Dillon vs
JB 34 [42] (1) E James
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SP 27 [37] (0) Surprise DNP
ZO 05 [26] (1) Da Clark
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DM 61 [62] (0) Fended off Bethie's tight end
CC 54 [60] (0) Tight end not enough
----------------------
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 04:53 PM
Looking at TL's roster, I don't think we can reasonably assume that he would have played it any differently except for Alexander.
So even adding in those 20 points, he would have lost anyway.
He might have used Leftwich and Northcutt, but who knows?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 04:59 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Looking at TL's roster, I don't think we can reasonably assume that he would have played it any differently except for Alexander.
So even adding in those 20 points, he would have lost anyway.
He might have used Leftwich and Northcutt, but who knows?
There's no reason to justify your win. You earned it fair and square.
I only made the comment about the retroactive changing of line-ups/stats just to show off my Commissioner powers.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 06:07 PM
Plaw, I see you point, but, there's also the fact that the same thing could happen IRL and it's beyond our control. Bulger going down for a month happened to me IRL, and those that played me during that time had an advantage. A HUGE advantage!
This is pretty much "real life" as well. In a couple cases, the coaches happened to be on bye. :rolleyes: And we all know that is more likely to happen in the second half of the season than the first half. It was the luck of the draw that determined these matchups.
That doesn't mean I know the best way to handle this. If *I* was running this, I think I'd be reminding/encouraging such teams to come back and play to minimize the "Zo Factor" (the fewer opponents that are effected, the better, I think). Of course, that depends on whether those coaches are actually around. :rolleyes:
If this happens in the future, I think just before locktime the commish should check for byes (but not injuries) and put in the highest "projected" players in their lineup. I'm sure there are issues with that, too, but if that's the deal from Week 1 and no one gets the advantage of playing against half a team, it may work out in the end.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 08:48 PM
I voiced my feelings to the ZO situation last week. I see no reason why the same argument shouldn't apply to TL.
Just my opinion, but I think making line-up decisions (filling in bye-week players, taking out injured players, etc) is beyond the bounds of the commissioner's power, especially if the commissioner is playing in the game as well. I don't want to be put in the position to baby-sit people.
Unless there are major reservations, if TL doesn't make some changes to at least include players playing tonight during Monday Night Football or promises to me that he'll play next week, I will lock TL's team as is (much like I did with ZO's), and the wins and losses against that team will count towards the standings.
Next year - 8 teams, by invite only... everybody plays everybody twice. Playoffs in Weeks 15 and 16. Can't wait.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 09:13 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Next year - 8 teams, by invite only... everybody plays everybody twice. Playoffs in Weeks 15 and 16. Can't wait.
What do we have to do to get an invite?
You want me to whack a guy? off a guy? whack off a guy? cause I'm married
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I think making line-up decisions (filling in bye-week players, taking out injured players, etc) is beyond the bounds of the commissioner's power, especially if the commissioner is playing in the game as well. I don't want to be put in the position to baby-sit people.
Of course I'm not saying that you
are doing so, but aren't you now putting yourself in the position of making an arbitrary decision about
when to, in effect, kick TL out of the league, and couldn't someone accuse you of doing it now based in his past and upcoming opponent(s)?
Like say you don't personally like DMC, or RB is battling you for first, so you leave a TL or a ZO alone while thy are still on their respective schedules, hoping that one or both start playing again, change their lineup, and possibly beat one or both of them.
But now that they didn't, and they still haven't played you (Have they? I have no idea), you've decided to lock them out.
That's why I like my idea better. It absolves you of any possible real or imagined conflict of interest or accusation of collusion (again - not that I'm suggesting any impropriety in any way on your part), and is completely fair to everyone in the league.
Just treat these two guys as if they never existed.
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This girl has no family -- nobody knows that she worked here. It'll be as if she never existed. All that's left is our friendship.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 10:35 PM
Just to add to the above and beat this poor dead horse a bit more......
You raise a good point, DB, about being a "playing" commissioner.
As a commish myself, a sometimes ass commish, and one who has been playing fantasy sports here since we started and who has a fairly logical mind in addition to being fair-minded, I personally hate being in a position where the decision which I think is the right one is, coincidentally, to my benefit.
What I would suggest is the appointment of an arbitrator, not necessarily for this case, but for the future.
Someone like SC, who knows sports, knows how these fantasy games work, but isn't playing.
Then, if and when a situation should arise for which we have no clear-cut right answer or precedent, you could lay out the facts, state the pros and cons of possible solutions, give everyone the opportunity to stick their two cents in, and then let him make the decision.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/07/05 11:42 PM
Plaw, if we go by your line of thinking...
- Let's act as if TL and ZO never existed. Their bye week plays affected our league and we don't want that. Wins and losses against them do not count.
- Might as well kick out SP also... He's had a bye week play as well as injured players on his roster. Wins and losses against SP don't count.
- Let's kick out DB too - he should have caught that Hakim and Holt were being held out that Sunday. Game time decision, but tough luck... His wins and losses don't count.
- In fact, let's take out all effects of all injuries and all bye weeks. It's unfair for JG to have to face anyone without his Bulger or that CC is facing JB's team which will be without Carson Palmer or Chad Johnson.
That should even the playing field.
Of course, all that is non-sensical but even if we do it your way Plaw, my "motivations" can also be questioned. Why did he take away DJ's legitimate win? Why did he take away CC's legitimate loss?
Your method, much like any method, will bring out potential criticism - therefore, not necessarily more valid from a "fairness" standpoint.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 12:01 AM
This is why I think my idea would've been best, had we started doing that at the first sign of trouble. :p
I really enjoy head-to-head competition a lot -- it surely is a lot more fun than just accumulating points -- so I don't want to abandon the idea. We know it'll be better next year, but as for this year, I think we should leave it as it's been (Who cares about Zo?), but try to get TL to freakin' change his lineup now to minimize the effects of his not playing once or twice.
I can't think of anything else, and am tired of repeating myself.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 12:09 AM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
... tired of repeating myself. So am I.
As an FYI, I PM-ed TL and he is going into set-it-and-forget-it mode next week. He doesn't want to manage his team anymore.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 12:27 AM
I guess I would have to say I agree with Plaw's idea of just completely dropping the W-L record from this year's league. Really, there is no proper or fair method to rectify the mess that has been created with the DNPs by ZO and TL. I do think the fairest way is to just award the winner by total points. Regardless of what we do, at least one team is going to get screwed in some form. For example, RB's Giants is currently in first place, but trails DB by 200+ points. Will it be fair for him to all of a sudden drop from his perch to the middle of the pack? No, but in honesty his team does belong in the middle of the pack, so it's not like he would really be able to complain. I was in favor of doing a head-to-head format at the beginning just as much as anyone else, but circumstances have changed since then. It's impossible to have a head-to-head league with non-competitors.
As I've said many times before, there is absolutely no reward for winning this league, so I think we should state our opinion on these issues, but whatever DB decides should be final and the end of it. If he makes a decision that he truly feels is the fairest and in the best interest of all in the league, but that decision is also one that might benefit him, we merely have to suck it up and deal with it. Luck is a factor in fantasy football more so than any other fantasy sport. The commissioner making an influential decision under these unusual circumstances is no different than losing Javon Walker in week 1. Adjust, regroup, and move on.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 12:33 AM
is no different than losing Javon Walker in week 1. Adjust, regroup, and move on.
I resemble that remark :rolleyes:
although you forgot "make stupid rushed trade" in their somewhere lol
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 03:26 AM
That's just great...
I went in tonight w/ a 10 pt lead, Dillon vs James.
Halftime: Dillon -1
, James +8 :rolleyes:
JG: 43
JB: 42
I know there's no crying in baseball - but what about football? :rolleyes:
I'm going out to watch the rest of the game... can't wait to see how bad I lost.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 03:34 AM
I like how JG and JB both voted for the other to win in their matchup.
A little Anti-Jinx action goin' on...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 06:48 AM
And... we tied??!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 02:36 PM
Week 9 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
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DB 73 [80] (0) LT saves the days
TU 55 [77] (0) At least happy with Pitt win
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PL 49 [56] (0) Wants Nowitzki
TL 14 [64] (0) 2 DNPs :/
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DJ 67 [67] (0) Wins again
IM 43 [43] (0) New TE scores 6
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FC 81 [81] (0) High Scoring Monday Night...
RB 74 [87] (0) ... for both of them
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JG 45 [48] (0) Ties are like...
JB 45 [49] (0) ... kissing your sister
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SP 27 [37] (0) Surprise DNP
ZO 05 [26] (0) Yawn
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DM 61 [70] (0) Fended off Bethie's tight end
CC 54 [60] (0) Tight end not enough
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Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 02:40 PM
Week 9 - Points Standings
DB 698
JB 637
DM 577
DJ 572
JG 540
TU 535
RB 495
CC 482
TL 472
FC 462
PL 432
SP 432
IM 390
ZO 333
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
RB 7-2-0 0.778 495 L-1
JB 6-2-1 0.722 637 T-1
DB 6-3-0 0.667 698 W-3
DJ 6-3-0 0.667 572 W-1
DM 5-3-1 0.611 577 W-2
JG 4-3-2 0.556 540 T-1
TU 5-4-0 0.556 535 L-1
CC 5-4-0 0.556 482 L-2
PL 4-5-0 0.444 432 W-2
TL 3-6-0 0.333 472 L-2
FC 3-6-0 0.333 462 W-1
SP 3-6-0 0.333 432 W-1
IM 3-6-0 0.333 390 L-3
ZO 1-8-0 0.111 333 L-7
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 02:58 PM
Lucky Wins & Tough Losses Update Week 9:SP knocks down a
very lucky win, with his 27 good enough to beat only the two lame ducks, one of whom (zo) he wa fortunate enough to be playing this. I fact, 27 may be the lowest score to ever notch a win here.
PL picks up a lucky one also, with a 49, good enough to beat only 6 of the other 13 players.
RB suffers a positively
brutal tough loss, coming in with the second highest score of the week, a 73. Unfortunately, he was playing the one person who scored higher.
TU had a bad one, too, scoring 55, good enough to win against 8 of the 13 others.
And CC, with a 54, could have beaten 7 other opponents.
We also had a lucky tie this week. JG and JB tied at 45, a score good enough to beat only 4 others. It may be like kissing your sister, but I'd bet they're both happy with it.
Standings:
Lucky Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties
-
RB 7-2-0 2 1 0
JB 6-2-1 1 1 1
DB 6-3-0 0 2 0
DJ 6-3-0 2 0 0
DM 5-3-1 0 2 0
JG 4-3-2 0 0 1
TU 5-4-0 2 1 0
CC 5-4-0 3 2 0
PL 4-5-0 3 1 0
TL 3-6-0 0 1 0
FC 3-6-0 0 1 0
IM 3-6-0 1 1 0
SP 3-6-0 2 3 0
ZO 1-8-0 0 0 0
Helped the most so far by the schedule are DJ and PL, both +2 on lucky wins.
Hurt the most are DB and DM, both -2.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/08/05 03:27 PM
Here are the standings, adjusted for lucky wins and ties, and tough losses.
(NB: The wins don't equal the losses, because I credited both JG and JB with a loss for their "lucky tie")
Lucky Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties
-
DB 8-1-0 0 2 0
DM 7-1-1 0 2 0
RB 6-3-0 2 1 0
JB 6-3-0 1 1 1
JG 4-4-1 0 0 1
DJ 4-5-0 2 0 0
TU 4-5-0 2 1 0
CC 4-5-0 3 2 0
TL 4-5-0 0 1 0
FC 4-5-0 0 1 0
SP 4-5-0 2 3 0
IM 3-6-0 1 1 0
PL 2-7-0 3 1 0
ZO 1-8-0 0 0 0
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/09/05 10:16 PM
Priest Holmes is out for the season. How lovely. Now I really don't have a prayer. :rolleyes:
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/09/05 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Beth E:
Priest Holmes is out for the season. How lovely. Now I really don't have a prayer. :rolleyes:
I do
Sorry couldn't resist.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/09/05 11:25 PM
Eventually one of your back-up running backs was gonna hit... :p
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/11/05 02:33 AM
*whistles*
Who happens to have 4 (yes, 4) producing RB's on his team, and might be willing to trade?
*whistles*
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/11/05 02:33 PM
If you're talking about me, I'm always willing to entertain trades.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/11/05 03:18 PM
Week 10 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
SP 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 00 [00] (9)
TU 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 00 [00] (9)
TL 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
FC 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JG 00 [00] (9)
RB 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JB 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DM 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/11/05 06:51 PM
Ass Commish's Notice
Crabby to give up Delhomme for PL's Finneran...
Finneran's projected stats for remainder of season = 38
Delhomme's projected stats for remainder of season = 197
PS: The deadline to complete trades in this league is Friday, Nov 18
Posted By: Big Daddy Don
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/11/05 10:56 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]Ass Commish's Notice
Crabby to give up Delhomme for PL's Finneran...
Finneran's projected stats for remainder of season = 38
Delhomme's projected stats for remainder of season = 197
[/b]
I vote No. :p
Just another example of an old kodger taking advantage of a young inexperienced lady.
Almost said that with a stright face ...
As you were Peeps !!! Sugar Daddy is in Da House ....
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/12/05 01:20 AM
I know the last thing you need when negotiating a trade is for others to voice their opinion but...
Whadyadoingbeth?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/13/05 03:50 AM
Commisioner Update
FYI - Although it says that the PL-CC trade will not be effected until next week, they actually informed me of the trade before the noon deadline (why it didn't work out for this week, I don't really now.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/13/05 04:00 AM
My analysis of the PL-CC trade - although it is wildly, wildly uneven at first glance, it may not affect much if both players keep the traded players for the rest of the season.
Delhomme becomes the second QB for PL (he was CC's second QB). CC gets a marginal WR she can start this week. PL gets a decent bye week starter and can play matchups for the rest of the season with two very good QBs. PL's Brees and Delhomme are about even so he may not have gained much at all when all is said and done.
What was actually traded was trade value. In this respect, PL got the lion share of the value. It remains to be seen if he can capitalize on this trade value by next week. Also, if one of his QBs gets injured (not trying to jinx you, Plaw
), he now has a very good QB to replace this injured player.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/13/05 11:51 AM
I figure I traded the difference this week between Delhomme and Warner - and Warner could do better, of course - for four weeks of the difference between Finneran and whoever else I wind up using instead.
Notwithstanding the fact that Finneran missed a few weeks with an injury, simply looking at their total points for the season is meaningless, IMO.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/13/05 07:28 PM
Plaw didn't feel the need to play a second RB this week?
I say we lock his roster, too, if he's not gonna play. :rolleyes: Also decreases your chances of being invited back to play next year. :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/13/05 07:56 PM
Um.....PL has a choice between playing Barber or Jones of Dallas, who plays Monday night.
Since the starter hasn't been named yet, I figured "What's the hurry?"
:p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/13/05 09:13 PM
Week 10 - Pre-Afternoon Games
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 05 [00] (7)
SP 22 [00] (5)
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PL 15 [00] (4)
TU 69 [00] (6)
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DJ 38 [00] (7)
TL 22 [00] (6)
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FC 36 [00] (7)
IM 15 [00] (7)
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JG 22 [00] (8)
RB 33 [00] (7)
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JB 54 [00] (8)
CC 10 [00] (8)
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DM 08 [00] (5)
ZO 07 [00] (6)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/13/05 09:25 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
PL has a choice between playing Barber or Jones of Dallas, who plays Monday night.
Since the starter hasn't been named yet, I figured "What's the hurry?"
Not that it looks like it's gonna make any difference.
:rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/14/05 12:43 AM
Week 10 - Pre-Sunday Night Games
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
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DB 54 [56] (0) Late surge might save him
SP 17 [43] (2) McNabb, Heiden left
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PL 25 [34] (1) Choice of Dal RBs remaining
TU 79 [81] (2) Miller, Pitt D left
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DJ 60 [60] (1) Westbrook remaining
TL 55 [102] (0)
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FC 57 [65] (1) Dawson left
IM 22 [25] (0) DNP
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JG 34 [34] (1) Needs Johnson to produce
RB 47 [57] (0) Wishes he didn't have to think about JG's Johnson
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JB 66 [67] (3) Witten, Ward, Randle El
CC 32 [46] (1) Glenn
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DM 26 [49] (2) Reed, Philly D
ZO 16 [30] (1) Edwards
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/14/05 12:45 AM
wow I know this is stupid but I was actually scared I was going to lose this week
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/14/05 12:08 PM
They had reports that in The Ravens training camp Saturday someone spotted a white powdery substance and they had to call the police. They in turn called the FBI and other agencies to check out this foreign substance. After a thorough investigation there was no emergency found. Seems the white powdery substance the players found was the goal line.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/14/05 02:36 PM
StatTracker is currently on the fritz... I'll update scores once Yahoo fixes it.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/14/05 08:08 PM
Commissioner UpdateJG trades
Marc Bulger (QB - StL) and
Keenan McCardell(WR - SD).
DB trades
Stephen Davis(RB - Car),
Eric Moulds(WR - Buf), and
Brad Johnson (QB - Min).
JG will release soon to be Super Bowl champion QB,
Kyle Orton (QB - Chi).
Go Bears!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/15/05 02:55 PM
Week 10 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 59 [67] (0) Late surge saves him
SP 25 [50] (0) McNabb hurting
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PL 27 [44] (0) Runs into buzz saw
TU 87 [89] (0) Team to watch
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DJ 74 [80] (0) Impressive score
TL 57 [115] (0) Imagine if he was playing
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FC 69 [82] (0) Wins convincingly
IM 23 [30] (0) DNP
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JG 39 [36] (0) Johnson doesn't produce
RB 50 [51] (0) Lucky win? Plaw to confirm...
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JB 83 [83] (0) Nice pickup of Frerotte
CC 41 [54] (0) Tough matchup this week
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DM 49 [57] (0) Lucky win? Plaw to confirm...
ZO 20 [44] (0) Yawn
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/15/05 02:59 PM
Week 10 - Points Standings
DB 757
JB 720
DJ 646
DM 626
TU 622
JG 579
RB 551
FC 532
TL 529
CC 522
PL 459
SP 457
IM 415
ZO 353
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
RB 8-2-0 0.8 551 W-1
JB 7-2-1 0.75 720 W-1
DB 7-3-0 0.7 757 W-4
DJ 7-3-0 0.7 646 W-2
DM 6-3-1 0.65 626 W-3
TU 6-4-0 0.6 622 W-1
JG 4-4-2 0.5 579 L-1
CC 5-5-0 0.5 522 L-3
FC 4-6-0 0.4 532 W-2
PL 4-6-0 0.4 459 L-1
TL 3-7-0 0.3 529 L-3
SP 3-7-0 0.3 457 L-1
IM 3-7-0 0.3 415 L-4
ZO 1-9-0 0.1 353 L-8
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/15/05 11:16 PM
Looks like we have some potential playoff matchups this week (at least based on our current standings)...
#1 RB plays #2 JB
#3 DB plays #5 DM
#4 DJ plays #6 TU
All this of course benefits those who are just on the outside looking in. JG and CC should be very interested on the winners and losers of these matchups.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/18/05 01:33 PM
Yikes, a couple of potential playoff teams get stronger with waiver pickups...
Turi got Terry Glenn.
JB got Little John Smith.
Posted By: Beth E
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/18/05 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Yikes, a couple of potential playoff teams get stronger with waiver pickups...
Turi got Terry Glenn.
Of course he'll get stronger. That's cause Glenn didn't do anything for me. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/18/05 07:53 PM
Commissioner Update
Just wanted to let you all know that we've past the trade deadline.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/19/05 05:48 PM
Week 11 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
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PL 00 [00] (9)
SP 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 00 [00] (9)
TU 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
FC 00 [00] (9)
TL 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JG 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JB 00 [00] (9)
RB 00 [00] (9)
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ZO 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9) From this week on, no more bye weeks so we should all be at full strength. Exciting slate of matchups this weekend.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/20/05 10:01 PM
Well, I have no shot this week. I think everyone of RB's players has scored a td so far, including the ones who haven't played yet.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/20/05 10:13 PM
update please
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/20/05 10:21 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
Well, I have no shot this week. I think everyone of RB's players has scored a td so far, including the ones who haven't played yet.
Yea what an awesome week. If Jurevicious gets one then you will be correct. I should have fuckin started Stalworth though, he got 2
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/20/05 11:26 PM
Update?
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/20/05 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Double-J:
Update?
I second that request.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 01:03 AM
I third (or whatever) that motion.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 02:23 AM
Week 11 - At 8:20 Central
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 61 [00] (0)
DM 55 [00] (3)
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PL 76 [00] (2)
SP 40 [00] (0)
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DJ 70 [00] (0)
TU 60 [00] (0)
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FC 49 [00] (0)
TL 27 [00] (3)
----------------------
JG 24 [00] (2)
IM 37 [00] (5)
----------------------
JB 72 [00] (0)
RB 79 [00] (0)
----------------------
ZO 71 [00] (0)
CC 41 [00] (0)
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 02:47 AM
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 05:33 AM
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 12:10 PM
A day for my benchwarmers. I could have scraped a win with the right starters.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 03:10 PM
Week 11 - Pre-MNF
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 61 [69] (0) Runs into buzz saw
DM 82 [92] (1) Gado left
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PL 79 [97] (0) Huge week for Brees
SP 40 [47] (0) Focusing on basketball
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DJ 70 [80] (0) Should move into third
TU 60 [79] (0) Laments starting choices
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FC 49 [50] (0) Should win this one
TL 29 [95] (2)
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JG 24 [31] (2) Johnson, Chatman left
IM 52 [56] (3) Vikes receivers, GB defense left
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JB 72 [84] (0) Should still be in 2nd
RB 79 [109] (0) Very impressive win
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ZO 71 [96] (0)
CC 41 [46] (0) Suffers setback
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 04:09 PM
I think my QB position is jinxed.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 04:43 PM
I think my entire team is jinxed. :rolleyes:
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/21/05 06:30 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I think my QB position is jinxed. Delhomme and Warner are available if we can figure out a way to make a deal and sneak everyone through waivers.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 02:45 PM
Week 11 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 61 [72] (0) Runs into buzz saw
DM 83 [92] (0) Clinches Playoff Spot
----------------------
PL 79 [97] (0) Huge week for Brees
SP 40 [47] (0) Focusing on basketball
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DJ 70 [80] (0) Moves into coveted 2nd spot
TU 60 [81] (0) Laments starting choices
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FC 49 [50] (0) Should win this one
TL 56 [111] (0)
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JG 23 [31] (0) Outside looking in
IM 63 [66] (0) Concerned about Gates
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JB 72 [84] (0) Drops a spot
RB 79 [109] (0) Very impressive win
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ZO 71 [96] (0)
CC 41 [46] (0) Suffers setback
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 02:46 PM
Playoffs baby! WOOT WOOT!!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 02:50 PM
Week 11 - Points Standings
DB 818
JB 792
DJ 716
DM 709
TU 682
RB 630
JG 602
TL 585
FC 581
CC 563
PL 538
SP 497
IM 478
ZO 424
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
RB* 9-2-0 0.818 630 W-2
DJ* 8-3-0 0.727 716 W-3
JB* 7-3-1 0.682 792 L-1
DM* 7-3-1 0.682 709 W-4
DB 7-4-0 0.636 818 L-1
TU 6-5-0 0.545 682 L-1
JG 4-5-2 0.455 602 L-2
CC 5-6-0 0.455 563 L-4
PL 5-6-0 0.455 538 W-1
TL 4-7-0 0.364 585 W-1
FC 4-7-0 0.364 581 L-1
IM 4-7-0 0.364 478 W-1
SP 3-8-0 0.273 497 L-2
ZO 2-9-0 0.182 424 W-1
* Clinched Playoff Spot
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 02:54 PM
Congrats to RB, DJ, JB and DM for being the first to clinch playoff spots.
Remember, the first two positions are coveted - they get a bye in Week 14. My guess is RB needs only a split in his last two matchups to clinch one of these spots.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 03:10 PM
Commisioner Note
We are now entering the part of the NFL season when NFL games aren't strictly confined to Sundays and Mondays. Please check the schedules [cough]check this week[/cough] and change your lineups accordingly.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 03:11 PM
Interesting how Yahoo treats ties for the purposes of figuring W-L by counting a tie as half a win and half a loss.
As I think I mentioned previously, the NFL (unless they've changed their rules) does it differently, and simply throws out the ties completely.
On a percentage basis, that makes a W-L record of 5-6 (PL & CC) better than a 4-5-2 (JG). :p
BTW, DB, altho you haven't mathematically clinched a playoff spot, you're as good as in.
The worst you can do is 7-6. CC and I can also finish at 7-6, and JG can finish at 6-5-2 (which under NFL rules would be a higher winning percentage, but not Yahoo's rules), but I believe that your lead in the tiebreaker, points scored, is absolutely insurmountable.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[b]Commisioner Note
We are now entering the part of the NFL season when NFL games aren't strictly confined to Sundays and Mondays. Please check the schedules [cough]check this week[/cough] and change your lineups accordingly. [/b]
Bloody hell, even I know there's games on for Thanksgiving. Though I'm going to miss the first because of Uni.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/22/05 03:30 PM
Lucky Wins & Tough Losses Update Week 10 Lucky win for DM. His 49 beats only 6 others.
Tough loss for TL. His 57 was good enough to beat 8 others.
Week 11 Lucky win for TL. His 56 was good enough to beat only 4 others.
Tough loss for JB. Vey tough, actually. His 72 would have beaten 10 others.
Standings:
Lucky Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties
-
RB 9-2-0 2 1 0
DJ 8-3-0 2 0 0
JB 6-3-1 1 2 1
DM 7-3-1 1 2 0
DB 7-4-0 0 2 0
TU 6-5-0 2 1 0
JG 4-5-2 0 0 1
CC 5-6-0 3 2 0
PL 5-6-0 3 1 0
TL 4-7-0 1 2 0
FC 4-7-0 0 1 0
IM 4-7-0 1 1 0
SP 3-8-0 2 3 0
ZO 2-9-0 0 0 0
Helped the most so far by the schedule are DJ and PL, both +2 on lucky wins.
Hurt the most is DB at -2.
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/25/05 10:59 AM
Any score updates after yesterday's turkey bowl games?
*Edit: Never mind, Yahoo lets you see the updates. Thank you, Alge Crumpler!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/27/05 09:48 PM
update please whenever anyone gets a chance.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/27/05 10:04 PM
Week 12 - As of time of post.
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
JG 50 [00] (3)
TL 15 [00] (3)
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DB 51 [00] (5)
ZO 24 [00] (2)
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PL 48 [00] (2)
DM 50 [00] (3)
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DJ 64 [00] (3)
SP 39 [00] (2)
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FC 15 [00] (6)
TU 28 [00] (6)
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JB 70 [00] (3)
IM 46 [00] (2)
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RB 38 [00] (4)
CC 27 [00] (4)
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Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/28/05 04:39 AM
Week 12 - Pre Monday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
JG 62 [62] (0)
TL 26 [50] (0)
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DB 67 [81] (1)
ZO 24 [42] (1)
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PL 47 [86] (1)
DM 78 [89] (1)
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DJ 67 [73] (0)
SP 44 [65] (0)
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FC 35 [59] (1)
TU 47 [60] (3)
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JB 77 [82] (2)
IM 62 [70] (0)
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RB 68 [88] (0)
CC 45 [66] (1)
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Posted By: Tony Love
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/28/05 04:48 AM
I know you're all pissed at me, but I promise this will be the last time I do Fantasy Football on here.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/28/05 07:18 AM
That's good of you TL.
I'm sure Commissioner DB will sleep a lot better tonight, knowing that you've promised not to play next year. :rolleyes:
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/28/05 07:33 AM
Don't take it personally, Tony - Plaw's just mad that he didn't pick his OPT team and lost this week... :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/28/05 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I think my QB position is jinxed. I think I'm repeating myself.
Thanks for updating scores JG... Back from a mini-Thanksgiving vacation.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 12:17 PM
Big game this week for us JG. I really want to clinch that last playoff spot. Throw the game and I'll buy a poster.
How have I not clinched a playoff spot anyway? Win or lose I've still won more games. The losses shouldn't be a factor unless our wins are the same.
Ok even if JG wins I'll be 7-6 - .538 and JG 6-5-2 - .538 He's still got to outscore me by 84 points.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 12:32 PM
As I've mentioned before, the way the NFL used to do it, and I believe still does, is to throw out ties completely and consider only wins and losses in figuring winning percentage.
In that case, JG's 6-5 (.545) would beat your 7-6 (.538).
But since Yahoo counts a tie as half a win and half a loss, then yeah.....although you haven't mathematically clinched a spot, because of the 84 point scoring differential, I'd say you're as good as in.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 12:47 PM
Famously, Turi, in 1963 your Steelers and the Giants were in the same division, and scheduled to face each other in the last game of the season.
Remember, this was the pre-playoff and pre-Super Bowl days, and with only two NFL divisions, the winner of each division met in the NFL Championship Game.
Anyway, going into the last game, the Steelers were 7-3-3, and the Giants were 10-3, clearly the better record.
But had the Steelers won, the would have finished 8-3-3 and the Giants at 10-4.
The Steelers winning percentage would have been .727, and the Giants only .714, even though they would have won two more games than Pittsburgh and lost only one more, and Pittsburgh would have been the Eastern Conference Champs.
The way Yahoo computes it, though, Pittsburgh would have been 9.5-4.5, for a percentage of .679
The way hockey does it, for example (2 points for a win, one for a tie), the Giants would have had 20 points and Pittsburgh 19.
There was quite a hue and cry as I recall, particularly in New York, about how inequitable it would be if Pittsburgh wins the game and is declared the champions while the Giants had the "better" record.
It became a moot point, however, as the Giants won the finale and finished at 11-3 to Pittsburgh's 7-4-3.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 02:38 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
The way hockey does it, for example (2 points for a win, one for a tie), the Giants would have had 20 points and Pittsburgh 19.
It works the same in soccer except it's three points for a win. I worked out both 2 and 3 point scenarios before I posted. I don't like this whole tie business in American Football. However rare it is it doesn't work well in a 16 game season sport where every game matters.
Originally posted by plawrence:
There was quite a hue and cry as I recall, particularly in New York, about how inequitable it would be if Pittsburgh wins the game and is declared the champions while the Giants had the "better" record.
I'm not surprised. I agree with the New Yorkers here.
Originally posted by plawrence:
It became a moot point, however, as the Giants won the finale and finished at 11-3 to Pittsburgh's 7-4-3.
Absolutely. Mostly because 4 SB rings are better than 2. :p
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 02:39 PM
I may be cocky and have no starters this week. See if JG scores 84. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 03:09 PM
Week 12 - Final
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
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JG 62 [62] (0) Needs help to make playoffs
TL 26 [50] (0)
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DB 77 [91] (0) Bounces back
ZO 24 [42] (0)
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PL 50 [89] (0) -2 from Brees
DM 78 [89] (0) Team is scorching
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DJ 67 [76] (0) Will lock up #2 seed with a win
SP 44 [65] (0) Can't wait for season to be over
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FC 47 [70] (0) See above
TU 66 [69] (0) Controls destiny for #6 seed
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JB 90 [90] (0) Bounces back
IM 62 [70] (0) Tough matchup
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RB 68 [101] (0) Locks up bye for playoffs
CC 45 [66] (0) Also a tough matchup
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Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 03:11 PM
Week 12 - Points Standings
DB 895
JB 882
DM 787
DJ 783
TU 748
RB 698
JG 664
FC 628
TL 611
CC 608
PL 588
IM 540
SP 540
ZO 448
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
RB* 10-2-0 0.833 698 W-3
DJ* 9-3-0 0.75 783 W-4
JB* 8-3-1 0.708 882 W-1
DM* 8-3-1 0.708 787 W-5
DB* 8-4-0 0.667 895 W-1
TU 7-5-0 0.583 748 W-1
JG 5-5-2 0.5 664 W-1
CC 5-7-0 0.417 608 L-5
PL 5-7-0 0.417 588 L-1
FC 4-8-0 0.333 628 L-2
TL 4-8-0 0.333 611 L-1
IM 4-8-0 0.333 540 L-1
SP 3-9-0 0.25 540 L-3
ZO 2-10-0 0.167 448 L-1* Clinched Playoff Spot
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 03:24 PM
Welcome to the club DB :p
Congratulations
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 05:38 PM
Why didn't we have 8 playoff teams to avoid the bye weeks for the Top 2?
Bethie and I would happily try to go against them for a snowball's chance in hell to make it...! (That's how I won it all the first time
)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 05:57 PM
I like the idea of bye weeks for the top seeds. It's a nice reward for doing well throughout the regular season.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 06:04 PM
Who asked you? :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 06:58 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Why didn't we have 8 playoff teams to avoid the bye weeks for the Top 2?
:p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 07:00 PM
No one asked me either, but.....
I think that 8 out of 14 teams making the playoffs is too many. If you get two or three teams that have really great records for the season, then there's too much of a chance of a team below .500 making it.
Six playoff teams seems about right to me. :p
However....
Are we gonna have a consolation round like we did last year, and shouldn't everyone, even those with a bye, continue setting their teams so we can determine an overall points champion also?
If the playoffs keep the season going to determine the HTH champ, then there's no reason why we shouldn't keep going to determine the overall points champion also.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 07:17 PM
I declared at the start of the season that the regular season points champion is declared at Week 13.
As far as the consolation round goes (I guess to determine who is in 7th place :p ), we can do it if people want but my guess is that people will lose interest after next week. There are some not named ZO or TL who already have.
Also, not meaning to offend anybody not making the playoffs, but I would hate for one of the playoff participants to lose out on a key waiver/free agent pickup because someone not in the official playoffs picked that player up ahead of him.
Anyway, I'll think about it. What do the rest of you think?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 07:38 PM
Good point about the free agents, but I would think that once the playoffs start the rosters should be frozen just as they are in real life.
Speaking of which.....
Here's a suggestion for next year, based on real life (in baseball, at least):
Once the trading deadline passes, teams can still make deals if the players they wish to trade pass through waivers and get claimed by the team that the player's original owner(s) intended them to go to.
If they don't, then their origianl team is allowed to withdraw them from waivers and take them back.
In our game, though, we work on a system of "irrevocable waivers". Once you release a guy, he's gone to the claimant with the best waiver position.
I suggest that we work our waiver system the same way.
Let's say I have an extra QB that I want to waive, except that if a person with whom I'm competing for a playoff spot (no comments about how I'm never competing for a playoff spot, please) needs a QB, I'd rather keep the guy than waive him.
I should be able to find out who gets him, and if I don't like who gets him, I should be able to withdraw him from waivers.
This has a few benefits:
First, it allows you to waive a player without the chance of hurting yourself.
Second, if the waiving of the player takes place during the trading period, it shows you who's interested in the guy and allows you to potentially make a trade instead of simply releasing the guy and getting nothing in return.
And third, it allows for trades after the deadline. In effect, if you and I want to make a trade after the deadline, and we each release the player whom we wish to trade, and the players go unclaimed by anyone else so that I get the guy I want from you and you get the guy you want from me, then we've made a trade after the deadline, which should be OK since, in effect, no one objected.
Of course keeping track of this would be a major headache for the Commissioner.....
As far as the consolation playoff round goes, I was just asking so I know if I have to think past next week or not. I don't really care; finishing 7th instead of 9th or something doesn't make any difference to me.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/29/05 08:21 PM
Another simpler way is to have no trade deadline.
BTW, in case anyone gets confused, I don't plan on locking rosters for the playoff teams. I'll probably lock the rosters for the non-playoff teams though.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/30/05 07:00 AM
Artestes
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/30/05 01:21 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Artestes Wrong thread?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 11/30/05 01:22 PM
If you guys are having a problem accessing your team, the problem is with Yahoo, not you/us.
Everyone on the various message boards is whing up a storm already.
The Basketball site is fucked up, also.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/01/05 12:12 PM
I could access my draft teams as normal but couldn't for my yahoo salary cap league. Today everything seems back to normal.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/01/05 03:12 PM
Commissioner Update
Due to Yahoo's struggles yesterday, Yahoo has put up this disclaimer on its fantasy sports pages. Please adjust your team accordingly.
Yahoo! Sports apologizes for any difficulty you have experienced accessing your fantasy team today. The technical issues have now been resolved. Please note that some recent transactions (i.e. lineup changes, roster moves and trades) may not have been recorded properly, so we recommend that you carefully review your teams to make sure they are up to date. Thank you for playing fantasy sports on Yahoo! Sports, and once again we apologize for any inconvenience.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/01/05 05:24 PM
Jersey 69ers Smack:Beat by a Redcoat in American football?!
Scunthorpe Steelers Stick:Hey you can still do it if you beat me by 84 points. How about I only play my kicker?
Jersey 69ers Reply:Okay, Turi - If that's the case, give me Manning and Greg Jones! :p
I know you're probably just kidding, please don't only play your kicker - you still have overall points to consider. You knocked me out fair-and-square, it was just some bad luck on my part (McAllister, Bulger, Dillon, 2 ties) that I didn't make the playoffs.
It's funny looking at my original draft results.
Jersey 69ers
1. (12) C. Dillon - Plagued w/ injuries
2. (17) D. McAllister - Injured
3. (40) M. Bulger - Plagued w/ injuries
4. (45) D. Jackson - Out since week 5
5. (68) D. Mason - 2 TDs all season
6. (73) A. Vinatieri - Used him once, for bye
7. (96) B. Franks - Dropped; out 4 weeks
8. (101) New England - Dropped; wasn't good
9. (124) Ke. Johnson - 9th pick has been okay
10. (129) K. McCardell - 10th pick has been okay
11. (152) B. Griese - Out after 6 weeks
12. (157) New York - Surprisingly decent
13. (180) K. Faulk - Out after 3 weeks
14. (185) B. Troupe - Dropped; fizzled out, injured
15. (208) R. Gardner - Dropped; played 4 weeks
16. (213) N. Rackers - Last pick, my best pick!
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/01/05 07:54 PM
1. (6) Willis McGahee - Not doing bad Yds, but would be much better with a decent Offensive Line
2. (23) Tom Brady - w00t! 5 other quarterbacks went before Brady in our draft, 2 are injured.
3. (34) Brian Westbrook - Worried he wouldn't do anything with all the passing in Eggle-town but managed to be a great pickup.
4. (51) Alge Crumpler - Went against my instict and took Crumpler instead of Shockey or McMichael, paid off!
5. (61) Issac Bruce - Having a good year, if he wouldn't have gotten hurt he would be even better, but still nets good fantasy points each week.
6. (79) Baltimore - Wasted pick, quote the Raven, "never again."
7. (90) T.J. Houshmandzedah - Great pick as a 3rd wideout, has good value, and gets points with all his YAC.
8. (107) Plaxico Burress - Can't believe I got him this late in the draft, nobody thought Eli could throw???
9. (118) Sebastian Janikowski - Se-bass sucks. Go eat another donut, lard ass.
10. (135) Ben Roethlisburger - Again, another player who nobody thought would do anything. Not a super-action fantasy value player, but consistent enough to warrant his place in the starting lineup.
11. (146) Reche Caldwell - Useless. Traded him to Plaw for Jerome Bettis, never looked back.
12. (163) Mark Campbell - Doesn't get enough throws, figured JP Losman would go to him quite a bit and didn't.
13. (174) Travis Henry - Thought he would get the starting job, or split time, and is now sitting on the bench (exactly what he would've done in Buffalo, as well)
14. (191) Troy Edwards - Useless.
15. (202) Jacksonville - Needed a defense, and nobody took them. Probably the best bargain of the entire draft day.
16. (219) Peter Warrick - See Troy Edwards.
Best FA Moves
*Acquiring Joey Galloway off waivers from Buffy
*Acquiring Jason Elam off waiviers from Chicken Wings
*Acquiring Duce Staley off waivers from Stormriders for that one week where he decided to run.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/01/05 11:05 PM
Since the season isn't over, I'm not going to do a hindsight analysis of my draft just yet, but without question, the biggest bust (of Pamela Anderson-esqe proportions) has to be Michael Clayton, WR for the Bucs. I spent a 4th round pick on the guy. Most happy about this has to be DJ because all of the throws went to Galloway because of Clayton's ineptness/injury woes.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/01/05 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Double-J:
15. (202) [b]Jacksonville - Needed a defense, and nobody took them. Probably the best bargain of the entire draft day.[/b]
In my opinion, JG drafting Neil Rackers in the last round edges your Jacksonville pick. Your pick is still right up there though.
After the season is over, I'll analyze these things more closely.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/01/05 11:29 PM
Things I'm looking for in DB's analysis:
1) Drafting Javon Walker as my first pick
2) The Julius Jones trade
3) The Randy Moss trade :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/02/05 04:59 PM
Week 13 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 00 [00] (9)
CC 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
PL 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
DJ 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
FC 00 [00] (9)
SP 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JG 00 [00] (9)
TU 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
JB 00 [00] (9)
TL 00 [00] (9)
----------------------
RB 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/02/05 05:09 PM
Playoff implications abound!
Only the following things are guaranteed:
- RB is guaranteed one of the byes (though not necessarily the top seed) no matter what happens
- If DJ wins, he gets the other bye
- TU and DB cannot get into one of the bye seeds, no matter what
Other than that, the first five seeds are all up in the air depending on the outcomes of the matchups this week. Cases can be made that the second bye seed can go to DJ, JB or DM (some more likely than others).
Looking forward to our matchup, Crabby!
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/02/05 05:13 PM
As far as Rackers goes, drafting a kicker is at least 50% luck, IMO, maybe more.
Sure, you want a guy who's gonna be accurate, but all of the NFL kickers pretty much are.
They score more points on FGs than PATs, so their scoring is really as function of opportunities as much as anything else.
A good offense will score more TDs, a bad offense fewer TDs and
maybe a lot of FGs, and a really poor offense will not get many of either.
If you can analyze the offenses so well to determine which team will present their kicker with a greater than average number of FG tires, more power to you.
Of course, who am I to talk, with my 16-29 lifetime record?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/02/05 05:20 PM
I agree with you, but if we're looking for the best value draft pick, we should mainly look at how he produced, relative to his draft position in my opinion.
Even if JG lucked into him... :p
If we limit it to non-kicker/defense positions, the analysis is probably more interesting...
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/02/05 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
If we limit it to non-kicker/defense positions, the analysis is probably more interesting...
I think it should be limited to non-kicker/defense. Almost all of the fantasy football writers for magazines and websites agree that you always wait till the last couple rounds to draft a kicker because the difference between the top kicker and the middle of the pack is negligible. Anyone who knows what he or she is doing will get great value out of a kicker, unless that kicker gets hurt.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/03/05 01:04 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I know you're probably just kidding, please don't only play your kicker - you still have overall points to consider. You knocked me out fair-and-square, it was just some bad luck on my part (McAllister, Bulger, Dillon, 2 ties) that I didn't make the playoffs.
I was definitely messing. Just wanted a little dig at you.
I think we'd all agree a lot of this league is down to luck (how else would I make the playoffs). But it's fun, I like the draft and managing the team. Mind you, the right people are making the playoffs if we're taking into account overral points scored.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/03/05 03:42 PM
I sincerely hope that Cinci gets shut out this week. I would really love it if someone killed Carson Palmer during the coin flip, then he magically reincarnated himself at the final gun. Of course, I still wouldn't mind if Edge and Tiki had monster weeks and I surpassed DB for the points lead, just as long as it is not a result of any Bengals.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 12:25 AM
I have a bad feeling that come playoffs, my team is gonna blow it. Thats exactly what happened last year.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 12:28 AM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
I have a bad feeling that come playoffs, my team is gonna blow it. Thats exactly what happened last year.
There is absolutely nothing saying that could happen.
Cough
DB 895
JB 882
DM 787
DJ 783
TU 748
RB 698
Cough :p
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 01:15 AM
Not for nothin, but that is a misleading way to look at the point standings. The first half of the season my team wasnt scoring for shit. If you looked at my points for the last half of the season, Im fairly confident they would be up to par with the rest of the leaders.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 01:38 AM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
Not for nothin, but that is a misleading way to look at the point standings. The first half of the season my team wasnt scoring for shit. If you looked at my points for the last half of the season, Im fairly confident they would be up to par with the rest of the leaders.
Not to start an argument but the overall scoring would be the most accurate portrayal of how someone is doing. The less samples there are the higher percentage of error.
DB? PL? JG? Trish?
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 01:42 AM
I agree with you. I had a mediocre season at best. But I think that ranking based on the matchups rather than the points makes it more realistic and interesting. I dont think the league would be as fun without the matchups every week.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 01:55 AM
This might be a stupid suggestion BUT after what RB just wrote I was thinking. Why don't we have (for next year if possible) 2 byes like this year, but the first bye goes to the person with the best record and the second one goes to the person with the most points.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 02:02 AM
Because conceivably, altho unlikely, the points leader may not be in the top 6 finishers in W-L record, which would necessitate seven teams in the playoffs.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 02:04 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
Because conceivably, altho unlikely, the points leader may not be in the top 6 finishers in W-L record, which would necessitate seven teams in the playoffs.
So why not do a top 5 based on record with the 6th reserved for points, if the points leader is in the top 5 then we would take the 6th based on record.
It was just an idea lol
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 04:56 AM
The structure of the league this year seems be have worked just fine. We have a head to head champ to appease those who prefer head to head scoring, as well as a total points champ to appease the purists, who believe that total points is the best indicator of victory. Everyone is happy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
The structure of the league this year seems be have worked just fine. We have a head to head champ to appease those who prefer head to head scoring, as well as a total points champ to appease the purists, who believe that total points is the best indicator of victory. Everyone is happy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Well said
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 05:19 AM
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 03:31 PM
Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
[QUOTE] Well said
Thank you RB. I'm glad to see there is someone on these boards old enough to recognize an expression.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 06:44 PM
WOW! Three TD receptions, 106 YDS and 23 points for SP's Lee Evans in the first quarter....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 09:43 PM
Week 13 - As of time of posting
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 19 [00] (8)
CC 19 [00] (2)
----------------------
PL 37 [00] (4)
ZO 35 [00] (4)
----------------------
DJ 41 [00] (3)
DM 27 [00] (3)
----------------------
FC 32 [00] (4)
SP 41 [00] (3)
----------------------
JG 40 [00] (1)
TU 31 [00] (2)
----------------------
JB 67 [00] (2)
TL 42 [00] (1)
----------------------
RB 28 [00] (2)
IM 17 [00] (4)
----------------------
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 09:52 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
[b]WOW! Three TD receptions, 106 YDS and 23 points for SP's Lee Evans in the first quarter.... [/b]
And the Bills
still manage to blow it in the dwindling seconds of the 4th quarter and lose, 24-23.
I just can't believe how bad we suck.
On a better note, I'm doing well fantasy wise.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/04/05 11:14 PM
Of course Dillon played and scored a TD today... :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 12:26 AM
Week 13 - Pre-Sunday Night Game
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 30 [00] (6)
CC 20 [00] (1)
----------------------
PL 44 [00] (2)
ZO 43 [00] (2)
----------------------
DJ 54 [00] (1)
DM 50 [00] (0)
----------------------
FC 32 [00] (3)
SP 36 [00] (0)
----------------------
JG 50 [00] (0)
TU 37 [00] (0)
----------------------
JB 69 [00] (0)
TL 52 [00] (0)
----------------------
RB 42 [00] (0)
IM 25 [00] (1)
----------------------
Posted By: Double-J
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 02:28 AM
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 04:12 AM
Out of curiousity, I just spent about 15 minutes googling around, trying to find out if the NFL still computes winning percentage - by throwing out ties and only counting wins and losses - the way they did back in the 60's.
Unfortunately, I was not able to find out.
So, in the absence of information to the contrary, I'm here to tell you, JG, that you got screwed out of a playoff spot, IMO.
A 6-5-2 winning percentage (.545) is better than a 7-6 (.538).
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 06:49 AM
Originally posted by plawrence:
I'm here to tell you, JG, that you got screwed out of a playoff spot, IMO.
I knew that if I won this week that I could be screwed out of a playoff spot -- that's why I suggested including the Top 8 rather than Top 6 in the playoffs, and eliminating the bye weeks. :p (What good is a bye week anyway, since those teams still are in competition for Points Total anyway, they still need to play.)
As for calculating ties into winning percentage, I couldn't find a definitive answer either. But I do know they don't just get rid of ties:
According to some of
these posts on another message board, they suggest that a tie is half a win and half a loss.
However, in an old
"Stump Page 2" page (near the bottom), a reader tells them that this is the formula:
(Wins + (Ties / 2)) / Games Played
JG (6 + (2/2)) / 13 = .53846
TU (7 + (0/2)) / 13 = .53846
In this formula, 2 ties equals 1 win. (tie being "half a win" only, apparently)
According to the formula presented, Turi and I mathematically would have identical records. And since he earned more total points, he'd beat the tie-breaker and get in.
But if it was half a win + half a loss -- that is (.5+.5)+(-.5+-.5) = 1+-1 = 0 -- wouldn't my record be 6-5, basically eliminated the ties (since there are 2)?
It's late, and I'm tired, so maybe my math is wrong. But I guess we'll find out Tuesday, huh?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 12:22 PM
JG.....
You read what I wrote about the 1963 Giants-Steelers scenario, right?
Going into the last game, the Steelers were 7-3-3, and the Giants were 10-3, clearly the better record.
They were playing each other the final week, and had the Steelers won, they would have finished 8-3-3 and the Giants at 10-4.
The Steelers winning percentage would have been .727 (throwing out the 3 ties completely), and the Giants only .714, even though they would have won two more games than Pittsburgh and lost only one more, and Pittsburgh would have been the Eastern Conference Champs.
The way Yahoo computes it, though, Pittsburgh would have been 9.5-4.5, for a percentage of .679
The way hockey does it, for example (2 points for a win, one for a tie), the Giants would have had 20 points and Pittsburgh 19.
There was quite a hue and cry as I recall, particularly in New York, about how inequitable it would be if Pittsburgh wins the game and is declared the champions while the Giants had the "better" record.
It became a moot point, however, as the Giants won the finale and finished at 11-3 to Pittsburgh's 7-4-3.I'll make it my mission today to find out for sure if and when they changed it.
I assume they must have, however, or why would Yahoo do it that way?
(
EDIT: I e-mailed the NFL. Let's see what they say if they answer me.)
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 04:29 PM
Yeah, I read that when you originally posted it.
I hope you also asked whether a tie is a half-win, or, a half-win-half-loss -- just to make sure Yahoo is doing it right. But I'm sure they are.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 06:13 PM
What a week for my players to lay an absolute egg...
It'll take a miracle for me to get the requisite points I need to overtake JB for the points race.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 06:26 PM
Week 13 - Pre-Monday Night Game
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
----------------------
DB 41 [45] (2)
CC 20 [26] (1)
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PL 70 [78] (0)
ZO 59 [73] (1)
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DJ 54 [75] (1)
DM 50 [82] (0)
----------------------
FC 42 [44] (1)
SP 36 [46] (0)
----------------------
JG 50 [61] (0)
TU 37 [51] (0)
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JB 70 [73] (0)
TL 51 [61] (0)
----------------------
RB 42 [56] (0)
IM 33 [34] (0)
----------------------
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[b]Week 13 - Pre-Monday Night Game
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
---------------------
ZO 59 [73] (1)
----------------------
[/b]
Is T.O. coming back tonight?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 08:26 PM
Yeah, didn't you hear?? :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/05/05 08:48 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
(What good is a bye week anyway, since those teams still are in competition for Points Total anyway, they still need to play.)
Total Points competition is only for the regular season - meaning the competition ends today. JB will probably win it unless I get a lot of field goals from Josh Brown and at least one TD from Stevens.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 12:36 AM
That's unbelievable. I knew I theoretically could have overtaken you, but the last I checked you still had roughly 14 guy left to play, so I figured I was out of it. I guess I had better watch MNF football tonight with a purpose. It's been a fun 2-man race. May the best owner win.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 12:52 AM
By the way, I would have gladly conceded the total points race to you if it meants the Bengals got shutout this weekend. Palmer's 3 tds were nice in this league, but in my other league for money I was playing against a guy with both Palmer and Rudi Johnson. Needless to say, I lost my second straight and am in danger of dropping out of the top 4 to advance to the playoffs. I still control my own destiny with a win, but I'm facing LDT next week, so I would have liked to wrap it up this week.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 01:00 AM
Just out of curiosity, how did the points system for yardage come about in this league? In most performance leagues, the standard for a point is 10 yards rushing/receiving and 25 yards passing. With all the talk this year about lucky wins and losses, it just seems like a funny scoring system. Touchdowns can be so random compared to yards. Anyone can score a touchdown, but only the best of the best are able to consistenly rack up high yardage totals. I'm not complaining about it at all, I was just curious how these totals came about. It's very unique. Kind of like a half-TD only league, half-performance. I've played TD only leagues, which are a whole different ballgame, but still fun nonetheless.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 01:02 AM
1 point for every 25 yards rushing/receiving. 6 points per touchdown. It's in the rules if you go to the frontpage.
I like 1 point per 10 yards myself.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Total Points competition is only for the regular season - meaning the competition ends today.
:(
In real life it's still the regular season. What difference does it make if we take this thru Week 17 for points or not? :p That was the impression I had all along (not that I have any hope)...
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 01:59 AM
I'm aware of what the current scoring system is for our league. I was wondering how you all came up with the yardage numbers to total one point. The yardage numbers we do use seem so random and unorthodox compared to most leagues, I was just curious to hear the reasoning behind it. Perhaps the reason will be something I have never considered before.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
I'm aware of what the current scoring system is for our league. I was wondering how you all came up with the yardage numbers to total one point. The yardage numbers we do use seem so random and unorthodox compared to most leagues, I was just curious to hear the reasoning behind it. Perhaps the reason will be something I have never considered before.
Oh I misunderstood your question
Every Yahoo league I've been in as this scoring system, I'd imagine that DB just left it alone.
DB?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 02:15 AM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
1 point for every 25 yards rushing/receiving. 6 points per touchdown. It's in the rules if you go to the frontpage.
I like 1 point per 10 yards myself.
It's actually set as so:
Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (20 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
I like a point per 10 yards rushing, too. Maybe next year? :p
What I've always had more of a problem with is the Defense Points Allowed stuff, but I'll bitch about that more next year (again).
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:19 AM
One point per 10 yards of rushing or receiving is OK with me, as long as we change the passing to one point per 25 yards.
I figure 100 yards of rushing or receiving is just as difficult as 250 yards of passing, so they should be worth the same.
Actually, 10-25 would be better than 20-50, since, in effect, you are able to earn more points, and your point total more accurately reflects the performance of the player.
What I'd like to see next season is some way to award points for number of receptions.
That would be tough though, because if we kept the yardage values for receiving the same as those for rushing, since there's no comparable rushing to stat to receptions (you can't value number of carries, for example), it would value receivng more than running.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:23 AM
Plaw that's the exact reason I like 10-25, its more accurate. How many times have players had 22 yards receiving and it's as if they didn't play. IMO a 22-23 yard reception is substantial whereas a 9 yard reception is not.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:42 AM
Thanks for the reply DMC. I guess I never knew that was Yahoo's default. I've been playing on Yahoo for about 5 years now, but it is always the exact same league, so the scoring system has always been our own, not Yahoo's.
I agree with you all about the 10 yards rushing/receiving and 25 yards passing. It is more indicative of a player's value. The difference in points each week could easily be 5-6 more points per week that a team earns, but isn't getting credit for because of the different yardage system we use. Those points could make a big difference in the league standings, not to mention the difference it could make in the total points standings when you multiply those 5 points per week times 13.
Considering Plaw's post about how the ties are really having an effect on the playoff race, I would be curious to know if those games would have turned out different had a standard scoring system been in place. It's obviously too late to change anything now, but I wonder if JG might have had 15 more rushing yards out of one of his players in one of those weeks and would have a victory to show for it instead of a tie. Not to rub salt in the wound or anything. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 07:01 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
JG might have had 15 more rushing yards out of one of his players in one of those weeks ...
Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!!
...but talking to this commish is like talking to a brick wall... :rolleyes: :p
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 01:49 PM
I'd go back and check the scores of the two ties and see if you would have made out any better with a different scoring system, but I'd really have to check everyone's scores for every game, because for a check to mean anything we'd really have to know how it would have affected everyone else's results as well.
If it was
me that possibly gor screwed, of course, I'd re-score the whole friggin' league if I had to to prove my point.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 02:51 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
...but talking to this commish is like talking to a brick wall... :rolleyes: :p JG likes to talk about getting "screwed" out of the playoffs... The same man who holds the mantra (which I happen to agree with) - "If everyone is playing under the same rules, then it doesn't matter..."
I wonder if you're singing the same song if you were in Turi's position. :p
As for the scores, yes they are pretty much the Yahoo defaults slightly modified. I thought 25 yards per point was a bit harsh so I lowered it down to 20 yards. I'm always open to suggestions so next year, I'll lower it down to 10-25 if that's the majority consensus.
What's wrong with the Defense scores, JG? Honest question... I'm always looking for ways to improve the league.
Improvement #1:
- By Invite Only
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 02:53 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
If it was me that possibly gor screwed, of course, I'd re-score the whole friggin' league if I had to to prove my point. And what point would that be... if you changed the whole scoring system to your favor, that you would have won??
Not much of a point, in my opinion. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 02:59 PM
Originally posted by plawrence:
What I'd like to see next season is some way to award points for number of receptions.
That would be tough though, because if we kept the yardage values for receiving the same as those for rushing, since there's no comparable rushing to stat to receptions (you can't value number of carries, for example), it would value receivng more than running.
This option does exist. I have no opinion towards it and it wasn't in the Yahoo default so I didn't add it in.
Some would say that adding this would even up WR vs. RB. RB's get on average 20 to 30 touches a game while an average WR might get 8.
What do the rest of you think?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:09 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
In real life it's still the regular season. What difference does it make if we take this thru Week 17 for points or not? :p That was the impression I had all along (not that I have any hope)...
No, I thought about that but in fantasy life, we are starting the head-to-head playoffs now. Much like in real life, they stop counting stats (in terms of league lead) once the regular season ends. In our Yahoo league, our regular season ended Week 13. I'm just mirroring this idea.
I thought I was clear when I first posted the league. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by plawrence:
[b] If it was me that possibly got screwed, of course, I'd re-score the whole friggin' league if I had to to prove my point. And what point would that be... if you changed the whole scoring system to your favor, that you would have won??
Not much of a point, in my opinion. :p [/b][/quote]I wouldn't know before doing it what the outcome would be.
I'd just be curious.
I'm not talking about re-scoring things with a radical change in the scoring system, just the one suggested by JB, since that one appears to be the one most commonly used.
If I wanted to, I could probably develop my own scoring system that would've gotten me enough wins to make the playoffs, just as I could create an after-the-fact schedule that would do the same thing.
As far as awarding points for number of catches goes, maybe something like one point for every two catches vs. one point for every ten carries.
The problem I have with that though, is that the number of catches requires some skill on the part of the receiver, while the number of carries doesn't really.
BTW, is this "Pick On The Commissioner Week" or something? :p
I imagine it won't be long until we hear from Big Daddy Wuss. :rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:16 PM
Week 13 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
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DB 47 [51] (0) Couldn't hold off JB for points championship
CC 27 [32] (0) Where is she?
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PL 70 [84] (0) Winning in Yahoo basketball
ZO 59 [73] (0)
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DJ 55 [75] (0) Clinches bye
DM 50 [82] (0) #5 seed
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FC 42 [44] (0) Glad season is over
SP 36 [46] (0) So is he
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JG 50 [61] (0) Says commish is a brick wall
TU 37 [51] (0) Limps into playoffs
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JB 70 [75] (0) Team to watch in playoffs
TL 51 [75] (0)
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RB 42 [81] (0) #1 Seed
IM 33 [34] (0) Glad season is over also
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Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:19 PM
Week 13 - Points Standings
JB 952
DB 942
DJ 839
DM 837
TU 785
RB 740
JG 714
FC 671
TL 662
PL 658
CC 635
SP 576
IM 572
ZO 507
- Head-to-Head Standings
[W-L-T] = Won-Loss-Tie Record
[Pct] = Winning Percentage
[Pts] = Points to date
[Stk] = Current streak
[W-L-T] [Pct] [Pts] [Stk]
RB* 11-2-0 0.846 740 W-4
DJ* 10-3-0 0.769 839 W-5
JB* 9-3-1 0.731 952 W-2
DB* 9-4-0 0.692 942 W-2
DM* 8-4-1 0.654 837 L-1
TU* 7-6-0 0.538 785 L-1
JG 6-5-2 0.538 714 W-2
PL 6-7-0 0.462 658 W-1
FC 5-8-0 0.385 671 W-1
CC 5-8-0 0.385 635 L-6
TL 4-9-0 0.308 662 L-2
IM 4-9-0 0.308 572 L-2
SP 3-10-0 0.231 576 L-4
ZO 2-11-0 0.154 507 L-2* Clinched Playoff Spot
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:21 PM
Re: The defensive scores......
I'm of the mind that a really good day by a defense, like allowing 0-7 points, with a fair number of sacks, turnovers, etc., should be worth roughly what a really good day by an offensive player is.
The way we have it know, it seems just a little bit low to me. maybe we need to raise the base form ten points to 12 or 13 or so. A shutout should be worth more than a base of ten points, IMO, since they are so infrequent.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:25 PM
Congrats JB on your regular season points scoring championship! My players blew chunks the last couple of weeks and you finished strong. You deserved it!
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 03:57 PM
Plaw you may be interested in this:
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 04:19 PM
I saw that in my travels, but missed the part about the ties.
I guess that settles it, then. I wonder when it was changed.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 06:13 PM
NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.
Originally posted by J Geoff:
But if it was half a win + half a loss -- that is (.5+.5)+(-.5+-.5) = 1+-1 = 0 -- wouldn't my record be 6-5, basically eliminating the ties (since there are 2)?
Or do they need to account for those 2 games somehow in the percentage?
Edit: This seems like a stupid question, come to think of it, since any half-win/half-loss would equal zero. But I can't get my head around what the formula would be...
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 06:44 PM
P.S. Douche - Are you going to lock the rosters of those who didn't make the playoffs, or, are you going to allow us to auction off our players to the highest bidder?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 07:01 PM
Two ties.
Two half wins = one win
Two half losses = one loss
6-5-2 becomes 7-6.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 07:06 PM
I'm a moron.
I even figured that out the other day, too, but apparently forgot already. I think my brain's gone soft....
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 07:07 PM
Certainly not from any comedy you've been playing with young girls.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 07:50 PM
Commissioner Question
This is a question for all participants, but for playoff participants in particular...
The way Yahoo structures its playoffs, RB, the #1 seed, will face the winner of #4/#5 matchup while DJ, the #2 seed, will face the winner of the #3/#6 matchup.
What's strange about this is, under Yahoo's rules, if #6 beats #3, he still faces the #2 seed, while the #1 seed will have a theoretically more difficult matchup against either the #3 or #4.
NFL rules dictate that the #1 seed will face the lowest seeded wildcard winner, so if we were going by NFL rules, if #6 upsets #3, #1 gets a chance to play him in the next round (giving #1 the easier path to the Super Bowl, something he has theoretically earned by getting the top seed).
My guess is that Yahoo does it this way to make it administratively easier (i.e. they don't have to go through or have special programming to determine the seeding/matchups for each individual league).
My question is this: Should we go by Yahoo rules or NFL rules? I'm leaning towards following NFL rules, because it makes more sense to me.
Please note that this hasn't come up in the past because we've always had four team playoffs.
What are your thoughts? I'd like to make this decision by Friday.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 07:52 PM
I always prefer that these fantasy games be as close to reality-based as possible.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 08:08 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
P.S. Douche - Are you going to lock the rosters of those who didn't make the playoffs, or, are you going to allow us to auction off our players to the highest bidder? I've decided that locking players for non-playoff teams is a bit cut-throat and not much fun for those who happen to finish out of the top 6.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 08:35 PM
I didn't mean to lock the rosters I guess; I meant, is there a way to prevent us from adding/dropping players? Not that anyone in our league would be stud-dumping or anything...
I forget if Y! keeps counting non-playoff points. If not, then I guess our season is over anyway...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 08:39 PM
I'll play you next week, JG. We can StatTrack the points ourselves if Yahoo doesn't.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 08:44 PM
I dont have a problem with the playoff scenario. If #6 does get the upset and ends up facing #2, then thats the way it is. Whatever happens happens.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 08:51 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I didn't mean to lock the rosters I guess; I meant, is there a way to prevent us from adding/dropping players? Not that anyone in our league would be stud-dumping or anything... Yeah, it's part of the Commish tools to be able to lock rosters.
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I forget if Y! keeps counting non-playoff points. If not, then I guess our season is over anyway... I think it does. That's why the decision is still up in the air.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 09:23 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
I didn't mean to lock the rosters I guess; I meant, is there a way to prevent us from adding/dropping players?
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Yeah, it's part of the Commish tools to be able to lock rosters.
Ahem. :p
Is there a way to prevent adding/dropping of players (to/from free agents)
without locking the rosters?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 09:27 PM
The problem, I think, is that you don't want non-playoff teams making personnel moves that can affect teams that are in the playoffs.
My feeling is that, as in real life, once the playoffs start everyone's roster should be locked.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 09:38 PM
Let me try this again...
I want to prevent non-playoff teams from affecting the playoffs. That's why I don't want us to be able to add/drop players from our
rosters.
However - I'd still like the ability to change my
lineup each week (using the players I already have).
Question is: If our rosters are locked, can we still change our lineups if we wanted to?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/06/05 09:41 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] I didn't mean to lock the rosters I guess; I meant, is there a way to prevent us from adding/dropping players?
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Yeah, it's part of the Commish tools to be able to lock rosters.
Ahem. :p
Is there a way to prevent adding/dropping of players (to/from free agents)
without locking the rosters?
[/b][/quote]Oh sorry... Yes, there is a way to prevent the adding/dropping of free agents without locking rosters. Part of commish tools.
What I originally meant by "locking rosters" was to keep the players that you have, without adding and dropping. I guess you meant really locking, meaning you can't make roster changes at all.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/07/05 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Congrats JB on your regular season points scoring championship! My players blew chunks the last couple of weeks and you finished strong. You deserved it!
I certainly apprecriate the kind words, DB. It could have easily gone the other way. I'm just glad I've finally earned some of the praise you heaped upon me when I first started playing fantasy sports here.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/07/05 03:17 AM
I think our playoffs should be simlilar to the NFL playoffs, hence #1 seed faces the lowest seed possible. Just because I like arguing with myself, here's something to consider. Even if there are upsets, RB will still be playing a team that could be considered better than his, based upon the points scored throughout the season. Looking at how the playoffs are set up now on the site, if TB pulls the upset on me, JJ would benefit by playing a team he outscored by 55 points in the regular season.
Another playoff rule in the NFL is the team with the better record (read: better team) has home field advantage, regardless of record. It will probably happen this year with New England. They will automatically be the 4 seed because they're a division champ, but they will have to play on the road in the wild card round. Since we all agree that a won-loss record is not as representative of superiority as total points, maybe we should just leave the format the way Yahoo has it. If TB beats me this week, then JJ gets to face him instead of RB. After all, he did have the stronger team, so it really wouldn't be that unfair. If DMC upsets DB, then RB gets the better matchup as a reward for the #1 seed.
Of course, DB and I could just make all this banter irrelevant by simply winning this week. :p
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/07/05 04:28 AM
I would think that the #1 team should have the easiest schedule, they would have to beat no one, then beat the #4 and then the #2 (in a perfect world) to win
The #2 team would have to beat no one, then #3 and then #1.
I think we should change it, unless of course changing it causes me to lose, then I vote that we keep it the same
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/07/05 01:40 PM
Lucky Wins & Tough Losses Update Week 12 None. Fist time ever, I think
Week 13 Plenty.
Lucky win for DB (finally). His 47 beats only 6 others
Another lucky win for RB. His 42 beats 4 and ties 1.
Lucky win for FC. Same as above.
Very tough loss for ZO. His 59 was good enough to beat 11 others.
Tough loss for DM. His 50 beat 7 and tied one
Tough loss for TL is 51 beat 9 others.
Standings:
Lucky Tough Lucky
Actual Wins Losses Ties
-
RB 11-2-0 3 1 0
DJ 10-3-0 2 0 0
JB 9-3-1 1 2 1
DM 8-4-1 1 3 0
DB 9-4-0 1 2 0
TU 7-6-0 2 1 0
JG 6-5-2 0 0 1
PL 6-7-0 3 1 0
CC 5-8-0 3 2 0
FC 5-8-0 1 1 0
TL 4-9-0 1 3 0
IM 4-9-0 1 1 0
SP 3-10-0 2 3 0
ZO 2-11-0 0 1 0
Helped the most by the schedule were RB, DJ and PL, both +2 on lucky wins.
Hurt the most were DM and TL at -2.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/09/05 03:19 PM
Commissioner Update
I've decided to leave the Yahoo playoffs the way it is. I based my decision on the following reasons:
- Not everyone would have been OK with the change
- It is a little late in the game to be changing the rules. I've always felt that once the draft occurs, everyone plays and strategizes based on the set of rules applicable during the draft. It is unfair to change these rules midseason.
- We gave RB the option and he has made his choice. In doing so, we have honored his placement as the #1 seed, something we wanted to do all along by bringing up the switch.
Although I would have wanted to make the change, I will not do so for the above reasons. As JB pointed out, even in the NFL, there is a bit of an ambiguity on who faces whom and which team is the higher seed/where do they play (e.g. JB's Patriots example) and in fantasy football, there is an even bigger ambiguity especially since we inlayed a points championship into our head-to-head season.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/09/05 09:02 PM
PLAYOFF TIME! I
think Yahoo will still keep track of scores of individual players, which means we can have a consolation playoffs! We'll go by order of finish (with JG getting the #1 seed of the consolation playoffs).
Good luck to all participants!
Week 14 - Matchups
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
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DB 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
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JB 00 [00] (9)
TU 00 [00] (9)
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JG 00 [00] (9)
ZO 00 [00] (9)
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PL 00 [00] (9)
SP 00 [00] (9)
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FC 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
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CC 00 [00] (9)
TL 00 [00] (9)
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Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/09/05 09:12 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
I think Yahoo will still keep track of scores of individual players, which means we can have a consolation playoffs!
Just when we thought we were out.....
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/09/05 09:51 PM
Plaw, you think your free agent pickup today could fool a Corleone? :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/11/05 09:41 PM
Week 14 - As of time of post
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
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DB 15 [00] (4)
DM 21 [00] (5)
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JB 42 [00] (3)
TU 29 [00] (4)
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JG 22 [00] (5)
ZO 34 [00] (2)
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PL 39 [00] (4)
SP 20 [00] (1)
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FC 36 [00] (3)
IM 22 [00] (6)
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CC 16 [00] (3)
TL 16 [00] (4)
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Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/11/05 11:17 PM
Larry Johnson
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 01:09 AM
I would definately not want to face any team with Grandmama right now. In another league, it's the last week of the regular season and I had to face the guy with LJ. I basically had a playoff spot locked up. It would have taken a minor miracle for me to miss out of the top 4, but I was still a little nervous. I obviously lost, but still made it. The guy who beat me this week has won 8 in a row since LJ took over and he's still not making the playoffs. He easily has the best team right now. DMC is definately the team I would be most scared to see standing on the other sideline, to borrow an expression from real football.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
I would definately not want to face any team with Grandmama right now. In another league, it's the last week of the regular season and I had to face the guy with LJ. I basically had a playoff spot locked up. It would have taken a minor miracle for me to miss out of the top 4, but I was still a little nervous. I obviously lost, but still made it. The guy who beat me this week has won 8 in a row since LJ took over and he's still not making the playoffs. He easily has the best team right now. DMC is definately the team I would be most scared to see standing on the other sideline, to borrow an expression from real football.
My team is no better than average without him.
I don't know if its been talked about but I'd imagine priest holmes is going to be traded
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 06:31 AM
Woah! I
barely beat ZO this week - 32 to 30
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 06:40 AM
score update please
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 07:12 AM
Week 14 - Final
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
PLAYOFFS
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DB 50 [91] (0) Garrad (17), Moats (17), Minn (16) on bench
DM 67 [83] (0) Wins with his huge (26") Johnson
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JB 63 [63] (0) Played Optimal Roster, but...
TU 49 [70] (0) Optimal Roster woulda won it
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RB bye
DJ bye
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Consolation Rounds
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JG 32 [00] (0)
ZO 30 [00] (0)
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PL 64 [00] (0)
SP 23 [00] (0)
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FC 36 [00] (0) Bledsoe (24) on bench; Collins DNP
IM 46 [00] (0)
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CC 41 [00] (0) Dunn good for 10 pts? Nope, just 6
TL 44 [00] (0) DNPer wins with Chambers (18), Portis (11)
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Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 11:25 AM
Honeymoon period with the playoffs is OVER.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 11:29 AM
Who are you more pissed off at, Turi?
Jackson for doing nothing, or Glenn for having a great day when you didn't play him?
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 12:20 PM
...or you for bringing it up?
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/12/05 12:49 PM
It's the Christm....oops, I mean the "Holiday" season.
I'm just trying to spread some cheer.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/14/05 04:29 PM
Sorry for the delay, fellas... Absolutely swamped at work right now...
Edit: Oops, didn't realize JG already updated the scores... Thanks JG!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/14/05 04:35 PM
Congrats on the win DMC! Man, if you played me every week, Larry Johnson would rush for 3,000 yards and score 40 TDs a year.
Week 11: 211 Yards Rushing, 2 Rushing TDs
Week 14: 143 Yards, Rushing, 3 Rushing TDs
I couldn't have forseen the Moats and Garrard scores, but the season was decided because I didn't have enough courage to sit Moss and the Indy defense.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/16/05 01:18 PM
What are the consolation round matchups this week?
JG vs. IM and PL vs. TL?
If so, looks like I catch a break, playing DNPer TL.
In any case, looks like it'll be me vs. JG for 7th place next week.
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/16/05 03:15 PM
This playoff match couldnt have come at a worse time. My top QB, both RB's, and even my kicker are questionable. This will be some win if I can pull it off.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/16/05 04:32 PM
Week 15 - Conference Championships!
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
SEMIFINALS
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DJ 00 [00] (9)
JB 00 [00] (9)
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RB 00 [00] (9)
DM 00 [00] (9)
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5th Place Game
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DB 00 [00] (9)
TU 00 [00] (9)
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For Best of Losers
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JG 00 [00] (9)
IM 00 [00] (9)
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PL 00 [00] (9)
TL 00 [00] (9)
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Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/16/05 07:23 PM
Hey, Plaw... I think you should stop picking thru the Free Agents and let the real playoff teams have their way with them...
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/16/05 09:05 PM
Screw them. :p They had all week.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 02:24 AM
Can someone update the scores please.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 02:33 AM
I'm out the door right now, but you're ahead 19-3. (RB used up 4 players for his 3 points, you used 2 with your 20 pt Johnson). You both have tonight off.
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 02:33 AM
Thanks
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 09:59 AM
All it takes is a simple internet connection to figure out the scores oneself. It really isn't all that difficult. I'm sure that in the time it takes to complain that the scores haven't been updated, one could figure out the scores oneself. Oops. I guess I didn't include a whine alert! Shucks. Everyone knows how much I care what people think of me! Too bad!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
All it takes is a simple internet connection to figure out the scores oneself. It really isn't all that difficult. I'm sure that in the time it takes to complain that the scores haven't been updated, one could figure out the scores oneself. Oops. I guess I didn't include a whine alert! Shucks. Everyone knows how much I care what people think of me! Too bad!
ok I wasn't "complaining" that the scores weren't updated. There is a reason that I couldn't get the scores for myself but I sure as hell don't owe you an explination.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 03:45 PM
I am now officially rooting for JB and DM to both make it to the finals.
Sorry RB and DJ, nothing personal. I'd just love to see a good grudge match.
Maybe someone getting their teeth knocked out.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 05:26 PM
Week 15 - Pre Monday Night
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
SEMIFINALS
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DJ 52 [61] (0) Sorry, Charlie
JB 103 [103] (0) Moves into Finals commandingly
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RB 42 [52] (0) Season-long luck streak ran out
DM 68 [76] (1) Won't need Heap o' Crap
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5th Place Game
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DB 58 [78] (0) The invisible commish held on!
TU 56 [80] (0) Peterson couldn't do it
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For Best of Losers
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JG 51 [56] (2) Mason & Chatman vs
IM 27 [32] (1) Packers
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PL 71 [78] (0) NE Def (19) on bench
TL 11 [31] (2) Farve & Driver to go
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Congrats to JB & DMC for advancing to the finals!
Looks like it'll be JG vs PL in their own finals...
Posted By: raggingbull2003
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 05:33 PM
I fucking knew this was gonna happen
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/18/05 06:07 PM
Didn't you forget something?
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Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/19/05 01:14 AM
#1 and #2 Seeds Upset in Semis! (see above)
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/19/05 01:31 AM
JB vs DM...the dream matchup.
Calls to mind great rivalries of the past: Yankees-RedSox, Celtics-Lakers, Giants-Eagles, Clay-Liston......I can't wait.
I'm expecting a full week of trash talking.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/19/05 04:27 PM
Ass Commish Notice
There is a descrepency between what total scores the Yahoo site is showing, and what StatTracker is showing. Hopefully it will resolve itself; however, it doesn't effect the standings.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/19/05 05:50 PM
Would anyone be interested in starting a keeper league for next season? This is my first year playing fantasy sports here, so I'm not familiar with how many teams in the league play every year, but if there are 10-12 people that continually play each year, why not make it a keeper league? It makes the draft much more compelling each year. Those middle to late round picks can really make a difference for a team by the end of the year and continue on into next year if you hit the jackpot, ala Larry Johnson. There are many different formats to use for a keeper league. We could decide which format best suits us once we decide if we actually are going to have one first, I suppose.
We could still have a redraft league for those people who either choose not to participate in a keeper league or are new to the site. I'm sure most of use would compete in both anyways. Let me know what you guys think.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/19/05 05:59 PM
Let's see if we can get through this season without a coupla guys killing each other first.
The problem I see with a keeper league, though, is that if you're not playing for money there's no guarantee of continuity which I would think is necessary.
I'm not really familiar with exactly how a keeper league works, but I do understand the concept. It seems to me that if you don't have some sort of assurance (like losing money that they already put up and have at stake) that the same people will play the following year, it won't work.
And with this group, where we can't even get people to finish one season.......
:rolleyes:
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/19/05 11:01 PM
Sorry I've been MIA guys... Trust me, it's not because I wasn't in the conference championships!
Congrats to JB and DM on making the GBB Super Bowl! You guys had the strongest teams down the stretch and you deserve it. Remember... No blood, no foul! :p
Turi, good matchup this week!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/19/05 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
Would anyone be interested in starting a keeper league for next season?
I wouldn't be opposed to a keeper league, save for the concerns raised by Plaw.
Posted By: Jimmy Buffer
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 05:02 AM
I agree with Plaw, that it would be difficult to get people to continue without any monetary incentive. You guys would certainly know more about the turnover in leagues from year to year than I would, so if you don't think it would work, then you're probably right. We have a long time to decide anything, I guess. We'll have to see about it next summer.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 10:56 AM
A keeper league would be good if it was possible to get rid of the inactive people and get some trusted expansion players in for them. Maybe only keep a certain amount of players on each teams roster, say 6, so the new draft is worth it. The expansion players obviously get the better picks and the rest of the picks are determined how things finish this year. But to make this fair I don't think once the first round picks have been made the draft order is reversed. It should be done the official way.
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 02:54 PM
Never having been in a keeper league, how does it work JB? I know the concept, but what are the specifics? How many do you get to keep? How is the draft order decided year to year? Which websites have an engine to keep up with this type of league?
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 03:09 PM
Week 15 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
SEMIFINALS
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DJ 52 [61] (0) Sorry, Charlie
JB 103 [103] (0) Moves into Finals commandingly
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RB 42 [52] (0) Season-long luck streak ran out
DM 85 [93] (0) Won't need Heap o' Crap
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5th Place Game
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DB 59 [79] (0) The invisible commish held on!
TU 56 [80] (0) Peterson couldn't do it
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For Best of Losers
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JG 58 [62] (0) Moves to Consolation Finals
IM 15 [26] (0) End of a long season
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PL 71 [86] (0) Also moves to Consolation Finals
TL 11 [34] (0) What a waste of Alexander
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 03:12 PM
Hey JG - How'd you place a space between
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SPACE SPACE SPACE
5th Place Game
in CODE?
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 03:17 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Hey JG - How'd you place a space between
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[b]SPACE SPACE SPACE
5th Place Game
in CODE? [/b]
Just as you said, to make a blank line, just hit the spacebar about 5-6 times
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 03:36 PM
Congrats on 5th Place, Douche! :p
I guess your score of 59 puts to rest my earlier complaint about not making the playoffs. Even though my 58 woulda beaten Turi's 56, I still woulda been eliminated facing you...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 03:49 PM
Thanks Brother!
Also, an official congrats to JB and DM (yesterday's congrats was unofficial :p )!
DM - I think JB said you dress funny and that Trish is so ugly that when she looked out the window, she got arrested for mooning.
JB - I think DM's exact words were "Update This!"
Carry on, fellas!
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 03:52 PM
I'd be surprised if you even knew who that was in the picture DS. :p
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
I'd be surprised if you even knew who that was in the picture DS. :p
I made that picture and don't even know who it is. We're American, after all...
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
I'd be surprised if you even knew who that was in the picture DS. :p
I'm guessing he's a soccer player and his name ends with an "aldo"!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 04:07 PM
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
[b] I'd be surprised if you even knew who that was in the picture DS. :p
I made that picture [/b][/quote]Do I dare ask to know WHY you had a picture of a guy grabbing his crotch on your computer
:p
As far as trash talking we'll let the scores speak for themselves.
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
[b] I'd be surprised if you even knew who that was in the picture DS. :p
I'm guessing he's a soccer player and his name ends with an "aldo"!
[/b][/quote]Wahey. It's the Brazilian - Ronaldo. Plays in Spain for Real Madrid.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 04:26 PM
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
Do I dare ask to know WHY you had a picture of a guy grabbing his crotch on your computer :p I didn't until Bethie and I think Douche kept saying "Right Hee-yah!" so I figured I'd find one. :p You think I'm just always searching Google for "crotch grab" images? :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
Wahey. It's the Brazilian - Ronaldo. Plays in Spain for Real Madrid.
Hey, pretty good... Does that mean I get half a prize?
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/20/05 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
[b]Wahey. It's the Brazilian - Ronaldo. Plays in Spain for Real Madrid.
Hey, pretty good... Does that mean I get half a prize?
[/b][/quote]Sure you can have this pretzel. It was originally covered by chocolate but I licked that off.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/25/05 01:59 AM
I don't have time to do a full report, but here are the current scores after Saturday:
DM 55
JB 61
DJ 41
RB 32
JG 29
PL 37 JJones (21) on bench
Merry Christmas Eve!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/25/05 02:06 AM
Miami Def and Larry Johnson
I have 4 guys left, but Jones and Heap are the only real threats. Givens is hit or miss and Clayton if I can get a point from I'm happy.
So needless to say I'm still nervous.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/25/05 03:22 PM
Week 16 - Pre Sunday
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = # Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
FINALS
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JB 61 [61] (0) Hopefull
DM 55 [58] (4) More hopefull
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3rd Place Game
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RB 32 [51] (2) Branch & Bears vs
DJ 41 [57] (1) Brady
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For Best of Losers
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JG 29 [33] (3) BJohnson, Mason, Dillon vs
PL 27 [59] (2) Lewis, Patriots; JJones (21) on bench
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Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/26/05 06:01 PM
I know it's only a consolation place but I subbed Manning for Brunnell, just checked the scores on Yahoo and Manning is still in my QB slot. If I go back to my team Brunnell is my starter. I also put in Ricky Williams for Steven Jackson. I've been ripped off. I know our rosters were locked but I thought we could still change our starters?
Cheats. You're all cheats! Liars and Xmas cheats.
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/26/05 06:17 PM
Week 16 - FINAL
PTS = Actual Points
[OPT] = Optimal Points (coulda had)
(P) = Players left
PTS [OPT] (P)
FINALS
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DM 84 [84] (0) CONGRATS TO OUR WINNER!
JB 61 [61] (0) Congrats to 2nd Place
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3rd Place Game
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DJ 54 [60] (0) Number 2 ends up #3
RB 52 [61] (0) Soooooo close for the lucky bastid. (#4)
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DB 5th Place Winner
TU 6th Place Winner - tho he whines a lot, apparently
For Best of Losers
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JG 69 [77] (0) #1 Loser! Woohoo! (#7)
PL 41 [60] (0) Gave crown to JL, who's too wuss even to
play this or any *real* game, apparently
(unless he's winning)....! :P ;)
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Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/27/05 12:46 PM
And I'm still going to whine until I get the 5th place I deserve. :p
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/27/05 02:57 PM
Congrats to DM!!! Sorry I was MIA this weekend guys (again). I'll post the reason why in a little bit. Thanks again JG! You're the best.
Happy Holidays to you all!
Posted By: Don Sicilia
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/27/05 05:58 PM
DB Update I wanted to announce it to my fantasy buds first (you all know I have a special place for you in my heart) that on December 23rd, I proposed to my girlfriend and she said yes!
Boy, was I ever nervous. Although we've talked about it and she was expecting it (although she didn't think it would come on Friday), you're never completely sure. Her answer brought equal parts happiness and relief!
It took a lot of planning and secrecy, but it all paid off in the end. I couldn't be happier and more thankful. It'll take a lot of planning in the next few months (now you know why I couldn't fully commit to some of the fantasy games), I'm hopeful everything will go well - in the wedding and in life.
A belated Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to you all!
Posted By: J Geoff
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/27/05 06:06 PM
Congrats, Douche!!
I wish you and the lucky lady a wonderful life together!
Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/27/05 06:27 PM
I see, DB was mad at me for knocking him out of the playoffs that he posts his news and takes away from all of MY congratulations.
:p
Congratulations though DB
Posted By: Turi Giuliano
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/29/05 12:02 PM
Awesome DB, many congratulations. That's one hell of a step.
I still want my deserved 5th place though.
Posted By: plawrence
Re: Yahoo Fantasy Football League 2005 - 2006 - 12/29/05 01:00 PM
Congratulations, DM, on winning your first "Major".
I bet Trish would be proud of you if she knew.
