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i have a question about some scenes in godfather maybe some of you could answer for me...what is tom and movie producer talking about when he says tell him i aint no bad leada either yeah i herd that story and when mike and clamenza are in the basement and he mentions what pe pe ramune did....anyone help me out?

Jack Woltz' (the movie producer) reference to the "bandleader" was about how Vito got Johnny Fontaine out of his movie contract. Mike tells the story to Kay during the wedding sequence in the beginning of the movie.

"pe pe ramune"??? - What movie were you watching???

K.Y., Woltz was saying, you can your guys can't intimidate me they way you did the band leader. Vito and Luca held a gun to the band leader's head and made him cut the contract they had with Johnny Fontane. Instead, Tom had the great idea of killing what was closests to Woltz, his prize black stud horse.... it worked!

K.Y., Woltz was saying, you and your guys can't intimidate me they way you did the band leader. Vito and Luca held a gun to the band leader's head and made him cut the contract they had with Johnny Fontane. Instead, they had the great idea of killing what was closests to Woltz, his prize black stud horse.... it worked! Johnny got the part.

Wasn't Pe Pe Ramone a character from Carlito's Way?


Don Cardi

ok i got the bandleader part what about the part with mike and clemenza in the basement and clemenza talks about pe pe ramune

Michael and Clemenza talked about the use of the gun, how Michael was gonna kill McCluskey and Sollozzo, and a little politics (not letting Hitler get out of control at Munich), and that's all.

They never spoke about someone named Pepe Ramone. That must be in a different movie.

They never spoke about someone named Pepe Ramone. That must be in a different movie.
ok would anyone like to watch the basement scene over......"you gotta start from the begginning like they stopped pe pe ramune they should of never let him get away with that they was just asking for big trouble" would anyone like to rewatch the basement scene?!!

You gotta stop buying your videos from Adolf's Barber Shop. The dialogue in that scene is:

(Clemenza): "Pretty goddamn bad. Probably all the other Families will line up against us. That's alright --this thing's gotta happen every five years or so -- ten years -- helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know you got to stop them at the beginning,
like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, They should never've let him get away with
that. They were just asking for big trouble. You know, Mike, we was all proud of you --
being a hero and all. Your father, too".

I'm telling you, I am pretty sure that Pe Pe Ramone was a character in Carlito's Way. SC has quoted the scene you are talking about word for word, Hitler is mentioned, not Pe Pe. You are mixing up your movies my friend.


Don Cardi

I checked on IMDB. The only character in Carlito with a name that was even close was 'Pachanga' (played by Luis Guzman), one of Carlito's guys (the short Puerto Rican), who also played one of TM's bodyguards in Scarface.

Maybe he's thinking of Pepe LePew....



(something does smell kinda funny in this thread, don't you think?)

no im watching the godfather on my computer a dvd rip its the exact dvd part 1 maybe in the book he says hitler at munich but in the movie he does not so how about we sit down and listen to what he says because its defenitly not hitler at munich.....watch the scene in no way does it even remotly sound like hitler at munich...watch the scene actually watch it.

"like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich"....watch the movie on vhs dvd or w/e i guarantee you he doesnt say that. so dont tell me You gotta stop buying your videos from Adolf's Barber Shop. because im not wrong and the dialogue is different. i want someone to actually watch the video scene and tell me different.

With all due respect, KY, you're talking to people here who have each watched the movie untold numbers of times.

We have discussed, re-discussed, and re-re-discussed virtually every aspect of the entire trilogy ad nauseum.

There are people posting here, who, I would venture to say, would rank among the world's foremost experts on this subject if there was a world ranking.

And although I may not be one of them, I can state with absolute certainty that Clemenza says "Hitler at Munich"

The only thing I can suggest to you, if you are serious, is that you have a faulty DVD.

Maybe KY is viewing a bootlegged DVD or something...or perhaps watching the film in another country where Clemenza's 'Hitler' statement is somehow edited out and this 'pe pe ramune' thing inserted in its place.

Whatever he's watching, it is not The Godfather in its original form, because the Hitler at Munich line IS there.

Oh, and KY...to understand fully Woltz's 'bandleader' line, you may want to go back to early in the film and listen to the story Michael tell's Kay about their relationship with Johnny Fontaine.

Apple

well no one has yet to actually tell me they watched the american dvd version of the movie.The more i watch the scene i can see ramune being mixed up with munich but in no way can i get hitler out of the conversation so as i said please rewatch the scene and listen closely maybe if you have the dvd cd's you can turn on subtitles and check for me..maybe dialogue was changed but please actually watch the scene instead of telling me what the book dialogue says thankyou.If you watch the scene on american dvd you will see my dilema.im not saying he doesnt say "hitler at muncich" but it doesnt sound like that to me. and everyone please im watching the american dvd bought in stores burned to the computer from the very close friend in no way is or was this dvd copy bootleg.

I just watched it......its definitely "Hitler".

alright I just put in my dvd since I can't take your attitude for much longer. You ask a favor and everyone tells you what it says and then you get an attitude.
well open your ears when you watch it because its very easy to understand Hitler at Munich.

My Dutch dvd subtitles tell me Clemenza says "Hitler at Munich", my English dvd subtitles tell me the same, hell even my German dvd subtitles tell me that.

What is a DVD rip? Is it a bookleg copy,downloaded off the internet maybe? Because it ceritanly is "Hitler at Munich" Maybe you like in an oppressed country where they dont want you to hear those things,so they edit in nonsence like that insted.That is the only thing I can think of.

lol Yeah an oppressed country like America...lol...anyway thanks for checking those subtitles ok so now im positive that he should say "hitler at munich"...oh and no my dvd rip was not downloaded off the internet read my last post and it'll tell you how i got the dvd....ok now that im positive what clemenza should be saying from our subtitled info would anyone like to watch the scene in enlgish i just cant see him saying hitler,doesnt sound that way at all..anyways sounds like he says ramune but i could get that mixed up with munich but to me in no way it sounds like he says hitler im not complaining about this or anything of the sense im just wondering about that part of the dialogue it doesnt sound like thats what hes saying in english.Not that it really matters i just wanted to know the dialogue of that scene.You can look at my first post and tell why.from the help of people of the boards i know now what hes supposed to say..but im just saying it doesnt sound like that all in english. thanx to all for the much help and numerous posts

"alright I just put in my dvd since I can't take your attitude for much longer. You ask a favor and everyone tells you what it says and then you get an attitude.
well open your ears when you watch it because its very easy to understand Hitler at Munich". WoW after being told dont buy movies from adolphs barbershop by you,i defenitly have an attitude toward you who are you to say your getting tired of someones attitude on the internet. Everyone Else thankyou verymuch for your posts and replys.If at any time i came accross as having an attitude to any of you except SC im sorry. i never asked a favor i asked a question and if you have a problem with my so called "attitude" do something about it oh wait its the internet!!!! i almost forgot. i would hate to see you debate with a person with your short temper.

hmmmmmm I never said dont buy your dvds from anywhere as I never responded to this thread until now.

for the record this is what I took as attitude:

maybe dialogue was changed but please actually watch the scene instead of telling me what the book dialogue says thankyou

I told you I was getting tired of your attitude??? I think perhaps your hearing isn't your only problem; perhaps you should learn to read.

it sounds rather simple. He is watching it on his computer and it may be breaking and reloading data at that point depending on his computer. maybe it is about the time it says People.

Anyway maybe, the short temper isn't helping anyone. I keep saying anger management is getting to be a must around here.
Even tho, at times we have a better way around here

im done with this board i asked a question..then i asked for people to answer the question in my standards and to have 3 people who didnt even post to begin with post because they have a problem with my "attitude" it must of bean the if you have a problem with my attitude do something remark thats gets most people on the internet fired up wether theyre in the conversation or not.Then to actually talk about anger management WOW! i suggest a admin to keep personal opinionative garbage out of perfectly good forums..one guy says i dont like him then three more say me neither "Sheep i tell you Sheep"!!!!!!!!

So Long
Like Plaw said, we have all watched that scene countless times,so we do know what we're talking about.If you do stay, try to be more open-minded

Wow i was just reareading thru the post and it wasnt SC who commented about an attitude it was Donmichaelcorleone well i have to say I apologize to SC because he didnt say that.

but i am still leaving because of sheep like fathersson and people like donmichealcorleone who in rl would never get a smart mouth with anyone IM GONE! its not worth talking about a wonderful movie with Instigaters.

Hey folks, I think this may be another board member posting under another name.

AS always, we should never put down another poster, But in this case I think it would be more then fair to say. Hit the road jackoff, and don't come back no more no more.....You were looking for trouble from the very start and no one here needs you or your crap. No matter what name you care to post under.
GET A LIFE.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS!

Sheep hu...you are so funny- LOSER!

I'm sorry to everyone on this board if what I said to him caused any problems. I did not mean for it to, I just did not appreciate the attitude that I saw from him against the other members. So if I did cause any problems I am sorry and ask for your forgiveness.

Baaa....baaa....baaa

Which one is you, FS?

Damm, what the hell did I miss?

Plaw..why don't you get him in a long discussion about how it wasn't Rocco eating Chinese food. He'll probably come after all of us with shotguns.

*retreats and hides under my chair to avoid the bullets.

dont know which shep fs is but glad ky gone his post were gettingso annoying to read anyway maybe hel'l go nd take some typing classes and order a decent dvd of thgodfther now that hes got soem xtra time on hishands, but for now buh bye....

Aplee

I think that is me at the card game in the lower right hand corner.

Boy, if he thought we were mean to him he should see other posts around here.
He was lucky, Pee you didn't correct his spelling at all.

He had it coming, DMC. The way I see it, if you ask someone for help you shouldn't jump down their throat when they try to give you that help.

Sheep, huh? I think he was trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Don't ewe?

Thanks SC, I'm not a troll or anyone trying to cause problems but somethings I just can't sit by and let stuff happen.

you all post your thoughts on message boards because 1.No one gives 2 fucks wtf anyone of you think in real life hence why your here.So have a good time. 2. you probably have not one person to talk to who really gives a fuck about anything any of you say. 3.Most of the time message baords without a considerably decent admin is nothing but flaming and "i dont like you me neither you said this wrong you have an attitude".No matter what i would of asked it would of bean his dvd is broke its messed up its bootleg see thats why,thats why,you are all acting like im tryin to prove you all wrong or something you wont admit it but thats the way you all felt in the first place.Do i know he says hitler at munich yes i do.! Do i think its changed in american english dialogue YES!!! "sheep are animals that mimic each other" you all = sheep. get it! Sorry i didnt have time to enable my fucking spell and grammar check on a message board,thanx for telling me like i didnt know or care you fucking school teacher. like i said sheep. Seems to me all the mimicing started after the "if you have a problem with my attitude do something about it,Wait its the internet" remark. you all have bean watching the godfather a little too much added with the you never leave your house except for work thing and never talking to anyone except on the internet can lead to quite a bad outlook on other people and the world.Maybe you have bean watching the godfather a little too much added with the you never leave your house except for work thing and never talking to anyone except on the internet can lead to quite a bad outlook on other people and the world.How do you know all these powerful and mysterious things Kenneth! ahh just call it a hunch....

WHY ALL THE FLAMING YOU ASK!?!?!?!!? BECASUE IM TIRED OF PEOPLE LIKE THIS "Thanks SC, I'm not a troll or anyone trying to cause problems but somethings I just can't sit by and let stuff happen."

Hey folks, I think this may be another board member posting under another name.

"AS always, we should never put down another poster, But in this case I think it would be more then fair to say. Hit the road jackoff, and don't come back no more no more.....You were looking for trouble from the very start and no one here needs you or your crap. No matter what name you care to post under.
GET A LIFE.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS!

Sheep hu...you are so funny- LOSER!"
wow what an idiot, fs youve never had to change your name because w/e you change it to people just seem to say wow what a old dumbass. have any kids? i would hate to listen to those fucking idiots much less allow them to vote good GOD what is this world coming too!i mean can you even eat!?

Then don't waste your time posting with us. Don't try and change us, we have been here way to long and will never meet YOUR STANDARDS. So why don't you head to another board where you can be top dog and they will accept you with open arm and hail you as their new king of the boards.

Hit the road Chump, you are wasting your time and ours. GOODBYE!

anyone else care to act sheepish?

Well, we have a decent admin here, and we're not gonna put up with any flaming. You've already said good-bye to us and gave your reasons for leaving, yet you choose to stay and flame others. This will not be allowed.

You have two choices, Kenneth:

1. Stay and behave yourself
2. Just leave

If you choose neither of the above the choice won't be yours.

Ky Ky what have we ever done to make u treat us so disrespectfully if u had come to us in friendship then the scum of a question that u asked would be answered this very day and if by some unfortunate coicidence u should ask an intelligent question then our answer would become ur answer and then they'd fear u.

To answer my previous post about people who should be wacked. KY should be wacked.........twice

lol i like that post.

Kenneth, if you hate posting here and all the people who regularly post here, why do you keep showing up?

Be a man of your word and disappear from here.

I say we forgive Ky he is a good kid with a good heart but he is stupid and weak(jk) No really I think we untentionally made him feel unwelcome. I believe it was a misunderstanding. On the internet we can never really tell what the true tone of somebody really is and this is a case where we misunderstood eachothers tone.

Ky someday and that day may never come I'll call upon u to do a service for me but until then accept this as a gift on my tuesday.

Thank you MY DON!

Awww....shucks, SC! Why don't you just go ahead & make the decision for him.

'You know, you got to stop them at the beginning,
like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich. They should never've let him get away with that. They were just asking for big trouble.'



Apple

How apropos

Oddly enough, on Monday I was watching a wonderful documentary about the Long Island Hurricane of 1938. It went on to describe this deadly storm and mentioned that it wasn't the major news event of the week. That news event was none other than the British Prime Minister (Chamberlain) "laying down" to Hitler at Munich. The documentary made no mention of anyone named Pe Pe. (true story)