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Posted By: J Geoff

GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/10/01 09:49 PM

Here are my quick notes listening to the GF2 commentary track...

> FFC insisted that GF2 be called "The Godfather, Part II"; the sudio didn't want it. He claims it started the whole "[Movie] Part [#]" trend. Alternately, when it came to GF3, the studio wanted "The Godfather, Part III" but FFC wanted "The Death of Michael Corleone" - the studio won this time
> A fish market in Trieste, Italy, stood in for Ellis Island
> The tag on the Vito child represented FFC's lucky number 7
> The song the boys choir sings at Lake Tahoe is called "Mr Wonderful"
> The Lake Tahoe scenes were filmed at the Kaiser Estate there, interiors and exteriors
> FFC's grandfather, Fransesco Pennini, wrote the opereta Senza Mama
> Neri killed the hooker
> Amerigo Tot, who played Michael's bodyguard in Miami and Cuba, was really a renowned stone sculptor
> The interiors of Young Vito's scenes were shot in LA
> There's an ADT security tag on the Lake Tahoe gate - gotta see if they were around then
> Most of the Senate committee members were business acquantences such as lawyers and industry people
> The proper way to address a Don is using his first name - that is, Don Vito - rather than Don Corleone. FFC said Mario got it wrong, but kept it as it became so familiar
> The questionable "Anthony's friends are your buttonmen!" line that Kay screams isn't written in the subtitles
> Pentangeli is based in part on Valachi
> The whole abortion things was Talia Shire's idea (FFC's sister, who played Connie)
> Michael screams "Bitch!" when he slaps Kay
> The younger Tomassino in GF2 was played by a production manager who FFC thought looked like the actor from GF1, but younger
> FFC's own mother laid in Mama's casket as no one else would, thinking it was bad luck
> Oranges! FFC said it's symbol for death was accidental in the beginning, but did admit they represented "forbodding death". It was also a symbol of Sicily
> FFC really used the Hail Mary to catch fish as a youth, and it worked - he caught "26 fish after saying Hail Mary's when no one else caught anything"
> FFC tells how De Niro is waving the child Michael's hand on the train ride ("wave goodbye") like a pupeteer (see the GF logo)

Interesting stuff...!

JG
Posted By: MobbingForMoney

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/10/01 09:51 PM

Ill have to see Part II soon. wink grin
Posted By: Jake

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/11/01 05:16 PM

"FFC insisted that GF2 be called "The Godfather, Part II"; the sudio didn't want it. He claims it started the whole "[Movie] Part [#]" trend. Alternately, when it came to GF3, the studio wanted "The Godfather, Part III" but FFC wanted "The Death of Michael Corleone" - the studio won this time"

Wow! Sometimes the studios right!
Posted By: AppleOnYa

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/11/01 05:54 PM

The "Death" of Michael Corleone would've been a terrible title.

However, The Fall of Michael Corleone might not have been so bad. In any case, after naming Part II the way he did, FFC couldn't have named Part III in any other way. The studio definitely DID make the right decision.

Apple
Posted By: Liz Skywalker

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/11/01 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by AppleOnYa:

However, The Fall of Michael Corleone might not have been so bad.


'The Fall of the House of Corleone'. wink
Posted By: deathkiss

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/11/01 06:36 PM

That abortion issue was not a good idea. I wonder what FFC was drinking when he decided to listen to Talia? For a person (Kay) who has spent most of parts II and III protecting her children, then on the other hand aborting unborn children isn't being consistant with character.
Posted By: AppleOnYa

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/11/01 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by deathkyss:
...For a person (Kay) who has spent most of parts II and III protecting her children, then on the other hand aborting unborn children isn't being consistant with character.


Yes it is consistent with Kay, if you consider that she was by now disgusted with the whole "Sicilian Thingggggg..."; listen to her "abortion" speech. She had hated this life for years, hated that her son was in danger of being dragged into it, and it makes total sense that the one thing she had the power to do not bring another of Michael's sons into the world. Not that it didn't break her heart to do it... frown

So I say, good thinking on Talia's part; they were probably trying to figure out a way of getting Kay out of the marriage, and this was the only way Michael would let her go.

Apple
Posted By: Frankie Five Angels

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/11/01 11:01 PM

I think the perfect title for Part III would be 'The Tragedy of Michael Corleone'. Part III, I mean, how many successfull Part III's have you seen? Rocky III, Rambo III, Police Academy III, etc... ugh.
nuf said, time to go watch
~FFA~
Posted By: Don Rico

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/12/01 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by Frankie Five Angels:
...I mean, how many successfull Part III's have you seen? Rocky III, Rambo III, Police Academy III, etc... ugh....

Return of the Jedi? grin

[ October 12, 2001: Message edited by: Don Rico ]
Posted By: Tattaglia's a Pimp

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/12/01 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Don Rico:

Return of the Jedi? grin

[ October 12, 2001: Message edited by: Don Rico ]


Actually a part 6. Part 3 comes out in 2005 smile
Posted By: Liz Skywalker

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/12/01 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Tattaglia's a Pimp:


Actually a part 6. Part 3 comes out in 2005 smile


"You understand everything!"


anyone want to take bets on the title for Eppy 3? "The Dark Times" is what I thought Eppy 2'd be called. How cr@ppy is "Attack of the clones"????
Posted By: MobbingForMoney

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/12/01 09:42 PM

Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. cool
Posted By: Liz Skywalker

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/12/01 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by MobbingForMoney:
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. cool


good movie.

"We named the dog 'Indiana'!" (funny b/c the character was named after George Lucas' dog)
Posted By: Don Noledge

Re: GF2 Commentary Notes - 10/13/01 10:34 AM

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how many successfull Part III's have you seen?


The Good, the Bad and the Ugly?

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