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Israel: 'State of war' #1071245
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i'm on the battlefield right now
the amount of bodies i see is insane
i cannot even realize it's reality, i cannot believe this morning led to this !
they will pay for everything we will crush them !!!

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i'm on the battlefield right now
the amount of bodies i see is insane
i cannot even realize it's reality, i cannot believe this morning led to this !
they will pay for everything we will crush them !!!


Please you and your loved ones stay safe no one expected such a massive unprovoked attack by Hamas this had to be backed by other countries.


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Islamic Jihad group claims capture of Israeli soldiers
Graeme Baker

Live reporter

Islamic Jihad, which operates in Gaza, claims its fighters have also captured "many" Israeli soldiers. In a post on Telegram, a spokesman calling himself Abu Hamza states:

"We confirm in the al-Quds Brigades that now, thanks to God, we possess many Zionist soldiers who are prisoners in our hands”

Islamic Jihad is one of several militant groups that operate in Gaza. The Quds Brigade is its armed wing. The group co-operates with Hamas but also maintains independence.

It is also active in the West Bank and has staged several attacks there on Israelis.

Israel last year said a series of strikes on its leadership had "taken them back decades".


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i'm on the battlefield right now
the amount of bodies i see is insane
i cannot even realize it's reality, i cannot believe this morning led to this !
they will pay for everything we will crush them !!!


Please you and your loved ones stay safe no one expected such a massive unprovoked attack by Hamas this had to be backed by other countries.

i got a call by the army
almost half of israel did.

and yes it's really iran behind that, them and hezbollah might join too.
and this is the real scary thing.

we are now rescuing hostages in there houses, we are going house after house but it's tough we are under heavy fire so we are stuck..
we already saw and rescue tons of womens who got raped and a lot of bodies and injured people here ohwell
the sights will be with me forever you cannot imagine what i see here
please hug your friends and family and be there for them whenever they need you ! there is no important people in your life then them !

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More than 900 Israelis have been wounded in the Hamas attacks, Israel's health ministry says. The MDA ambulance service says about 70 people are dead.

A major investigation has been launched as to how Israeli intelligence failed to see the well-coordinated Hamas attack coming, Israeli government officials have told the BBC.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas - a political rival of Hamas - supported the right of the Palestinian people to defend themselves against the "terror of settlers and occupation troops".


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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
please hug your friends and family and be there for them whenever they need you ! there is no important people in your life then them !


Couldn't have said it better. You be safe now!


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i got hit by a shrapnel in my left forehead so i was getting help in field by a medic and then they took me to hospital to get better care
now i'm resting and later i'll be back to combat zone ! i'm ready to go back !

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i got hit by a shrapnel in my left forehead so i was getting help in field by a medic and then they took me to hospital to get better care
now i'm resting and later i'll be back to combat zone ! i'm ready to go back !


Jesus Christ, you are a reservist? Many have been called up by IDF I heard. You are a Hero Meyer be careful !

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Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
i got hit by a shrapnel in my left forehead so i was getting help in field by a medic and then they took me to hospital to get better care
now i'm resting and later i'll be back to combat zone ! i'm ready to go back !


Jesus Christ, you are a reservist? Many have been called up by IDF I heard. You are a Hero Meyer be careful !

thank you holla ! thanks buddy ! god bless you !

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Already 200 deaths terrible stuff. Israel will destroy them. frown


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Its a big fail of Netanyahu his government is weak. Also a message to US and Saudi Arabia.

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Fox News just reported 300 dead, 1000+ injured


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this is something beyond evil
no words to describe it...

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Special Edition from the Institute for the Study of War


IRAN UPDATE SPECIAL EDITION, OCTOBER 7, 2023
Oct 7, 2023 - ISW Press









Iran Update Special Edition, October 7, 2023



Nicholas Carl

Hamas has launched a surprise ground and air attack into Israel, marking the most significant escalation between the two sides in decades. Hundreds of Hamas fighters crossed from the Gaza Strip into Israeli territory and attacked nearby border posts, military sites, and residential areas on October 7.[1] The group also launched a series of large-scale rocket attacks from the strip into Israeli territory throughout the day.[2] This operation has injured and killed hundreds of Israeli civilians thus far.[3] Israeli leaders have responded by describing the attack as an act of war and have given every indication that they will respond decisively.[4] Previous Israeli response patterns suggest that Israel would likely conduct a ground operation into the Gaza Strip meant to rout Hamas completely. Hamas leaders almost certainly considered this strong possibility when planning their attack. But they have no reason to believe that they could successfully defend against such an operation, given the relative strength of the Israeli military. This observation raises the question: what is Hamas’ theory of victory? This special edition explores three possible explanations—none of which are mutually exclusive—that may be driving Hamas’ current actions.

1. Hamas leaders may expect the conflict that they have ignited to expand to include other Palestinian militias as well as Iran and its so-called “Axis of Resistance. Iranian leaders use this term—the Axis of Resistance—to describe their international partner system of state, semi-state, and non-state actors.[5] This coalition includes Lebanese Hezbollah, Syria’s Bashar al Assad regime, Yemen’s Houthi movement, and myriad militias operating in Bahrain, Iraq, Palestine, and Syria, all of which Iran supports financially, materially, and politically.[6] Other Iranian-backed Palestinian militias have expressed their readiness to join the fight against Israel, but there are no indications at this time that non-Palestinian members of the Axis of Resistance are involved in the conflict.[7] The Axis of Resistance is nevertheless well-positioned to intervene if its leaders chose to do so given its military footprints in Lebanon, Syria, and the West Bank. In fact, encircling Israel has been one of the key motivations for Iran’s extensive investment in supporting proxy and partner militias in these locations.

The fact that Hamas launched its operation on the anniversary of the 1973 Yom Kippur War lends credence to the possibility that it expects support from others against Israel. One of the key features of that war was that Egypt’s surprise attack heralded a multi-front war.

2. Hamas may have based its current operation on Iranian leaders’ thinking about defeating Israel. Major General Hossein Salami—the commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)—presented in August 2022 the most explicit articulation from an Iranian official yet on how to destroy Israel.[9] Salami downplayed the role of drones and missiles and instead argued for Lebanese Hezbollah and Palestinian militias to conduct more ground operations and urban combat inside Israel. Salami asserted that such activities would generate internal displacement and sow chaos, which would ultimately destabilize Israel and lead to its decline. Hamas’ decision to conduct a ground attack into Israel and how it went about doing so are noteworthy in this context. The group indiscriminately killed, abused, and abducted civilians in the towns its fighters reached and posted images and videos of the acts online, likely in part to instill terror among Israelis.

3. Hamas may have sought to disrupt the US-led negotiations to normalize ties between Israel and Saudi Arabia. The attack into Israel has understandably focused international attention once again on Israel-Palestine dynamics. The Saudi Foreign Affairs Ministry released a statement on October 7 advocating for the Palestinian cause and affirming Riyadh’s support for a two-state solution.[11] This attack and whatever fallout ensues will likely complicate the normalization talks and could delay or even disrupt them.

One of the most dangerous courses of action Iran could pursue would be to exploit Israeli focus on the Gaza Strip in some way in the coming days and weeks. Iranian leaders will almost certainly look for opportunities to take advantage of the conflict even if they did not direct it. Iran could exploit Israeli distraction by moving advanced military systems into Lebanon and Syria or making significant advances in its nuclear program. This scenario is less likely than others at the moment, but it warrants consideration because it could set conditions for even more significant escalations or geopolitical changes. Incidents like Hamas’ attack no longer remain confined to the immediate area in which they occur. Each now carries the potential to grow into a larger phenomenon with ripple effects throughout the Middle East and even beyond.

The United States and its allies must remain vigilant against the danger that Iran and its partners may seek to expand the crisis caused by the Hamas attacks on Israel and must avoid the tendency to become narrowly focused on Gaza and the immediate Israeli response to this attack. Iran has been pursuing an offensive strategy in the Middle East aimed at expelling the United States, among many other things, for years, as CTP has previously assessed.[12] The October 7 Hamas attack could be a part of that larger effort.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-special-edition-october-7-2023

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This ongoing conflict is significant and needs to be solved once and for all, meaning is it going to be Israel or the other guys?! No two ways about it. Both sides should fight to the last man and stop listening to EU and the US. This time there shouldnt be any peace deals. Lets go all the way and lets see who is stronger?! Btw Im also all about nukes and where the hell are Israels rockets?!

The same thing is happening on the Balkans too with Serbia vs Kosovo. We need to go to the end with this shit. No more civilians. Everyone should take a gun and lets solve this by fighting to the last bullet or last individual. If Israel falls (God forbid), the muslim forces wont stop there.

I grew up first during a war in Yugoslavia, then Kosovo and in Serbia, then in Macedonia, followed by an ongoing conflict between Greece and Turkey which might erupt every moment.....many people are really tired of this shit, including me.


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Originally Posted by Toodoped
This ongoing conflict is significant and needs to be solved once and for all, meaning is it going to be Israel or the other guys?! No two ways about it. Both sides should fight to the last man and stop listening to EU and the US. This time there shouldnt be any peace deals. Lets go all the way and lets see who is stronger?! Btw Im also all about nukes and where the hell are Israels rockets?!

The same thing is happening on the Balkans too with Serbia vs Kosovo. We need to go to the end with this shit. No more civilians. Everyone should take a gun and lets solve this by fighting to the last bullet or last individual. If Israel falls (God forbid), the muslim forces wont stop there.

I grew up first during a war in Yugoslavia, then Kosovo and in Serbia, then in Macedonia, followed by an ongoing conflict between Greece and Turkey which might erupt every moment.....many people are really tired of this shit, including me.

everyone here realize that it's either a second holocaust or us being alive.
we gonna give it all ! we have nothing to lose

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Iranian politicians chanted 'death to Israel ' in their parliament on Saturday after Hamas's unprecedented, large-scale raid. Israel fires artillery towards Lebanon (Hezbollah).


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The Israeli military knows Hamas took "dozens" of hostages, but is still trying to figure out the exact figure
From CNN's Niamh Kennedy in London

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) is trying to establish the exact number of hostages that have been taken into Gaza, with the military’s international spokesperson emphasizing the “complicated” nature of the situation to CNN on Sunday.

Speaking to CNN’s Laila Harrak in an interview from Tel Aviv, IDF spokesman Lt. Col. Richard Hecht said the IDF understands that “dozens” of hostages have been taken into Gaza.

“Because life here is very sacred, we're making sure that we come out and understand the numbers exactly,” Hecht added.

A group of militia members transport an elderly Israeli woman captured in the Kfar Azza kibbutz, in Israel, on October 7, 2023, in the Gaza Strip.

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Fox News just reported 300 dead, 1000+ injured


700 deaths in Israel now and around 170 hostages.


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Terrible situation. Blessings to all who are hurting


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Just horrible,


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'Like a horror movie' - Israel music festival-goers fled in hail of bullets


For weeks, excited music-lovers had looked forward to the Supernova festival, held in the desert in southern Israel to coincide with the Jewish festival of Sukkot.

"The time has come when the whole family is about to get together again," organisers wrote on social media before it began. "And what fun it is going to be!"

Just hours later, their social media pages are now flooded with desperate people trying to find loved ones, after Palestinian militants stormed the festival and opened fire as part of huge surprise attack on Israel.

One partygoer, called Ortel, said the first sign that something was wrong was when a siren went off at around dawn, warning of rockets. Eyewitnesses said the rockets were quickly followed by gunshots.

"They turned off the electricity and suddenly out of nowhere they [militants] come inside with gunfire, opening fire in every direction," she told Israel's Channel 12.

"Fifty terrorists arrived in vans, dressed in military uniforms," she said.

The number of people killed and wounded at the festival is not yet clear. It is also not known whether Hamas took anyone hostage from the party, as they have done in other towns and villages.

But Yaniv, an emergency medic who was called out to the party, told public broadcaster Kan News: "There are at least 200 bodies of Israelis in the area I was in."

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Senior Hamas member says the militant group is ready for "worst-case scenario"
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In this file image Saleh Al-Arouri makes a speech in Cairo, Egypt, on October 12, 2017.

Senior Hamas member Saleh al-Arouri said the militant group, which runs Gaza, is ready "for all options, including a war and an escalation on all levels."

"We are ready for the worst-case scenario, including a ground invasion, which will be the best for us to decide the ending of this battle," al-Arouri told Al Jazeera Arabic Saturday.
Al-Arouri claimed there are ongoing "intensive international and regional efforts" to end the crisis, "but now nothing will be more important than the battle."

Meanwhile, the Izzedine al Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, on Saturday claimed they are still fighting in 25 locations.

The group also said in a statement that there are ongoing clashes at the Re'im military base near Gaza's northern border crossing with Israel.


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BREAKING Explosions heard in central Israel as Hamas claims to target Ben Gurion Airport. Loud explosions were being heard across central Israel..


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Israel needs to go Big , NOW!

Clear those rabid terrorist from all of the earth.


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NATO and Israel have worked together for almost 30 years in domains such as science and technology, counter terrorism, civil preparedness, countering weapons of mass destruction and women, peace and security. Over the last years, cooperation has grown.Sep 28, 2023
https://www.nato.int › news_218698
Chair of the NATO Military Committee visits Israel, 27-Sep.-2023


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Israel needs to go Big , NOW!

Clear those rabid terrorist from all of the earth.


I completely agree. Its time for Israel to step on them like you would cockroaches... Full Force!

These terrorists and the constant danger they pose have got to be stamped out, once and for all. They only know force and violence. If they wanna go see Allah that badly, Israel should accommodate them.

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In several Dutch cities Palestinian supporters demonstrated today it's their right but I find it disturbing they support this brutal TERROR attack on civilians.


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