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Rolling Stones or The Beatles? #1069363
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To me the Stones hands down !



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You really needed to make a special thread for this?


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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The Beatles and The Rolling Stones have been compared since the beginning of their existence. Time and again the question is which of the two is the best band. Both groups are of enormous importance for the rise of contemporary pop music and symbolize a rebellious generation. So there are plenty of similarities.


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They are such different groups. It's almost like comparing a power forward to a point guard. Can we really compare the two? Not to mention, art is the most subjective thing in the universe.


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Re: Rolling Stones or The Beatles? [Re: Hollander] #1069398
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Thanks guys I don't want to get in a fight lol, in the 60s the fans were hating each other lol. The boys respected each other though.



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Re: Rolling Stones or The Beatles? [Re: Giacalone] #1069408
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
They are such different groups. It's almost like comparing a power forward to a point guard. Can we really compare the two? Not to mention, art is the most subjective thing in the universe.

Beatles were basically a pop group, Stones basically a blues group. Beatles broke up in under a decade, Stones are still touring and making records after 60+ years.Stones were and are a great performing band, but Lennon/McCartney were the greatest songwriting team since Rogers/Hammerstein, Rogers/Hart and the Gershwin brothers--maybe better. Plus: Beatles were more impactful , a truly global phenomenon that resurrected and redefined R&R from the doldrums of '58-'62. Only Elvis was more influential.

That said: I have more Stones than Beatles on my iPod. But, I'd have an awfully hard time deciding which of both groups' greatest albums--"Rubber Soul" or "Let it Bleed--I'd take with mel if I were going to the Space Station for a year and had to choose only one.


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Re: Rolling Stones or The Beatles? [Re: Turnbull] #1069411
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Beatles were basically a pop group, Stones basically a blues group. Beatles broke up in under a decade, Stones are still touring and making records after 60+ years.Stones were and are a great performing band, but Lennon/McCartney were the greatest songwriting team since Rogers/Hammerstein, Rogers/Hart and the Gershwin brothers--maybe better. Plus: Beatles were more impactful , a truly global phenomenon that resurrected and redefined R&R from the doldrums of '58-'62. Only Elvis was more influential.


Perfectly said


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You are forgetting "The King" cool


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I remember at my school the Beatles songs were taught in the music class, never the Stones. There I learned Yesterday, Let It Be, Yellow Submarine etc..


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Originally Posted by Hollander
I remember at my school the Beatles songs were taught in the music class, never the Stones. There I learned Yesterday, Let It Be, Yellow Submarine etc..


That Yellow Submarine song still gives me the creeps since kid lol lol

"The King" owns both bands and that is...Elvis grin


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Thanks guys I don't want to get in a fight lol


Lol I can't picture you in a fight ever. Did you ever fight as a kid H?


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Originally Posted by Giacalone
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Thanks guys I don't want to get in a fight lol


Lol I can't picture you in a fight ever. Did you ever fight as a kid H?


Every year around new year we fought with our neighbourhood against others it was centered around the Christmas tree hunt we stole them from them or they came to us. We used them to have huge fires and riots on New Year's Eve. The tradition is long gone now.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
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Thanks guys I don't want to get in a fight lol


Lol I can't picture you in a fight ever. Did you ever fight as a kid H?


Every year around new year we fought with our neighbourhood against others it was centered around the Christmas tree hunt we stole them from them or they came to us. We used them to have huge fires and riots on New Year's Eve. The tradition is long gone now.


Was it fistfights? Weapons? It's just that you're the most agreeable person ever H. I just can't picture you fighting lol. To me you're the guy who hands the enemy a blunt and says "You like the Stones?"

Which is something we should all aspire to do


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Originally Posted by Giacalone
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Thanks guys I don't want to get in a fight lol


Lol I can't picture you in a fight ever. Did you ever fight as a kid H?


Every year around new year we fought with our neighbourhood against others it was centered around the Christmas tree hunt we stole them from them or they came to us. We used them to have huge fires and riots on New Year's Eve. The tradition is long gone now.


Was it fistfights? Weapons? It's just that you're the most agreeable person ever H. I just can't picture you fighting lol. To me you're the guy who hands the enemy a blunt and says "You like the Stones?"

Which is something we should all aspire to do


Mostly fistfights no knives I remember one time when I was alone a group came out a van with baseball bats but we were robbed by another group so I said to them those guys just left so they didn't hurt me and chased the other group lol.

Now I'm all peace and love but if I have to I can fight.


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Re: Rolling Stones or The Beatles? [Re: Toodoped] #1069564
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Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by Hollander
I remember at my school the Beatles songs were taught in the music class, never the Stones. There I learned Yesterday, Let It Be, Yellow Submarine etc..


That Yellow Submarine song still gives me the creeps since kid lol lol

"The King" owns both bands and that is...Elvis grin


LOL

I'm also a huge Elvis fan.

We could also ask Elvis Presley or Roy Orbison?

Elvis held Roy Orbison in very high regard, publicly stating that Roy had ' most perfect voice' and referring to him as the 'greatest singer in the world' during one of his Vegas concerts.

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Originally Posted by Hollander


I'm also a huge Elvis fan.

We could also ask Elvis Presley or Roy Orbison?



Obviously The King grin

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ-r0bilzhU&pp=ygUbZWx2aXMgcHJlc2xleSBpbiB0aGUgZ2hldHRv wink


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Ha, you neophytes have a lot to learn. The Who dropped " I Can't Explain" in December 1964 before "Satisfaction" came out, so....
I've seen Led Zep, The Who, Pink Floyd and The Rolling Stones perform live, for the record.

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Thats quite cool to see. Cheers

Back in the days I also used to collect tickets from all of the concerts that I visited but during the changing of apartments, I "somehow" lost most of them, including lots of vinyls and tapes frown


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Another Beatles vs. Stones comparison is "innovativeness." "Sgt. Pepper," obviously the most impactful and highly praised album of the Sixties. But, it's not "the the Greatest Album of All Time," nor is it even their best (that title belongs, IMO, to "Rubber Soul," with "Revolver" and "Help" very close behind). Nor is "Pepper" a pioneering "concept" album--only the first second and next to last songs on the album support a "concept." "Magical Mystery Tour" is more of a "concept" album, and has some really innovative music ("I Am the Walrus," "Strawberry Fields Forever," and "Penny Lane" are in a league with "Pepper's" immortal "With a Little Help from My Friends" and "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"). "Pepper"introduced sitar, but it was a lame Harrison indulgence; the Stones used sitar earlier and better on "Paint it Black." But, no Beatles album is devoid of one or more great, memorable songs, and most have a higher percentage of quality music than nearly all other bands' albums.

Stones' one attempt at a "concept" album--"Their Satanic Majesties Request," had a few interesting songs, but was largely a flop. But, give them credit for having the dood sense and focus to stick with what they do best--blues--and to continually improve on it.Beatles excelled in songwriting and production, Stones excelled in performance--"Get Your Ya-Yas Out" and "Love You Live" are untoppable live albums.

For this ancient fan's money, The Who, though they can't match either Beatles' or Stones' total output, were the most consistently hard-rocking yet innovative band in history. "Tommy" and especially the vastly underrated "Quadrophenia" are genuine, fully realized rock operas; the overtures for both are worthy of Rossini's overtures. They were also capable of producing a great pop album ("Who's Next") and simultaneously a great live album ("LIve at Leeds").


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