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The "Little Lamb of the Cross” #1090078
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What specific towns or provinces in Italy were Dellacroce and his wife or their families ariginally from?

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Originally Posted by Havana
What specific towns or provinces in Italy were Dellacroce and his wife or their families ariginally from?



I never researched it, but I believe the family originated in the Campania region of Southern Italy.

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
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What specific towns or provinces in Italy were Dellacroce and his wife or their families ariginally from?



I never researched it, but I believe the family originated in the Campania region of Southern Italy.


Also had read several timres in the past that Dellacroce wasNeapolitan with roots from Naples,which of course often meant Campania ,maybe even beyond
However a video on Angelo Ruggiero stated that Ruggiero's family was from Calabria and that he was a blood relative of Dellacroce

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Originally Posted by Havana
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What specific towns or provinces in Italy were Dellacroce and his wife or their families ariginally from?



I never researched it, but I believe the family originated in the Campania region of Southern Italy.


Also had read several timres in the past that Dellacroce wasNeapolitan with roots from Naples,which of course often meant Campania ,maybe even beyond
However a video on Angelo Ruggiero stated that Ruggiero's family was from Calabria and that he was a blood relative of Dellacroce


Yes, Campania Province is largely considered "napolitani." And those from Calabria (which is side by side with Campania) often travel, move, relocate, etc., etc., so although they are distinct in nature, they also often overlap. Hence the alliance of "Southern Italians" in America, as opposed to the Sicilians, who came from an island unto themselves, and keep more to themselves, early on, until the later amalgamation of ALL factions into "Cosa Nostra."

Re: The "Little Lamb of the Cross” [Re: NYMafia] #1090147
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My favorite mob boss next to Gotti, Casso, and LaPietra! Thank you for this excellent write up!

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Re: The "Little Lamb of the Cross” [Re: RushStreet] #1090157
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Originally Posted by RushStreet
My favorite mob boss next to Gotti, Casso, and LaPietra! Thank you for this excellent write up!


You're welcome, RushStreet.

Re: The "Little Lamb of the Cross” [Re: NYMafia] #1090164
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Here's a little chewing gum for the brain:
We know that Neil would never have sanctioned a hit on Big Paul as long as he was alive.

So let's say that Neil lived another 10 years,and Paulie went away on the Rico case.
Would Neil claim the top spot,or would he support Gotti as the new Boss?

Neil had the respect of the Gambino's and would have probably been voted in.
But what if he didn't want the heat and aggravation?

With Neil's backing,and a conventional vote,I think Gotti would have had a great shot at the top seat.
Even Chin would have been OK with a vote,as opposed to the murder of a sitting Boss.

As a bonus,Neil would know that he would have tremendous behind the scenes influence on Gotti's reign.
More money,more power,and unlimited possibilities. For him,it would be the best-case scenario,

Just a hypothetical premise. Whatta you guys think?




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I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Lou_Para
Here's a little chewing gum for the brain:
We know that Neil would never have sanctioned a hit on Big Paul as long as he was alive.

So let's say that Neil lived another 10 years,and Paulie went away on the Rico case.
Would Neil claim the top spot,or would he support Gotti as the new Boss?

Neil had the respect of the Gambino's and would have probably been voted in.
But what if he didn't want the heat and aggravation?

With Neil's backing,and a conventional vote,I think Gotti would have had a great shot at the top seat.
Even Chin would have been OK with a vote,as opposed to the murder of a sitting Boss.

As a bonus,Neil would know that he would have tremendous behind the scenes influence on Gotti's reign.
More money,more power,and unlimited possibilities. For him,it would be the best-case scenario,

Just a hypothetical premise. Whatta you guys think?





Even if Castellano live and got convicted, and got the 100 years in jail like all the other NYC bosses (Commission members,) he would have retained power while in prison, and just have appointed "Acting" positions as need be.

But, for the sake of discussion, assuming that he did "step down" as boss, then....

I think that whatever would have happened, Dellacroce would have been the "true" power behind the curtain. And thats whether or not Gotti ever came to power. For my money, a guy like Gotti would have never been voted in, in a million years. And if he had, it was because everybody, in the know, knew, that he was just Dellacroce's proxy.

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Like I said before Neil would have been an excellent choice to lead that family. Also when Gotti was boss I believe Neil was calling the shots anyway.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.



I don't disagree with you, at all, Rush.

In fact, Dellacroce would have made an excellent Family boss. "Unofficially" he was, essentially, always viewed that way, anyway.

Now, to the contrary, I think that Gotti was a terrible boss. IMO, he had all brawn, and no brains.

Did he make a good soldier? Yes, definitely! Did he make for a good capo? So long as he followed the tutelage of a guy like Dellacroce, yes, he would make a good capo. But a boss? No way! No how!.....and the proof of that is in the pudding as they say.

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.



I don't disagree with you, at all, Rush.

In fact, Dellacroce would have made an excellent Family boss. "Unofficially" he was, essentially, always viewed that way, anyway.

Now, to the contrary, I think that Gotti was a terrible boss. IMO, he had all brawn, and no brains.

Did he make a good soldier? Yes, definitely! Did he make for a good capo? So long as he followed the tutelage of a guy like Dellacroce, yes, he would make a good capo. But a boss? No way! No how!.....and the proof of that is in the pudding as they say.


Gotti should have been kept at Capo and focused on running his own crew. Neil should have been the BOSS of that family.

Happy you agree with me.

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If ol Neil, Bilotti and Costellano all lived, I'm pretty sure Neil was going away with Paul on the Commission Trial. Paul would've left Bilotti in charge. Gotti would have to be taken out. He never gave up the tapes.

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Originally Posted by blueracing347
If ol Neil, Bilotti and Costellano all lived, I'm pretty sure Neil was going away with Paul on the Commission Trial. Paul would've left Bilotti in charge. Gotti would have to be taken out. He never gave up the tapes.


So you think Gotti would have been whacked?

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I think Neil had control of only three crews out of about 20.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
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I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.



I don't disagree with you, at all, Rush.

In fact, Dellacroce would have made an excellent Family boss. "Unofficially" he was, essentially, always viewed that way, anyway.

Now, to the contrary, I think that Gotti was a terrible boss. IMO, he had all brawn, and no brains.

Did he make a good soldier? Yes, definitely! Did he make for a good capo? So long as he followed the tutelage of a guy like Dellacroce, yes, he would make a good capo. But a boss? No way! No how!.....and the proof of that is in the pudding as they say.


Gotti should have been kept at Capo and focused on running his own crew. Neil should have been the BOSS of that family.

Happy you agree with me.


No doubt.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.

. I don’t think many will disagree. We know Gotti wasn’t a good boss. However I’ve always said I don’t think Neil would’ve been a good boss either. I understand why Carlo made that decision. As respected as Neil was he was constantly under investigation or in and out of court too

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.

. I don’t think many will disagree. We know Gotti wasn’t a good boss. However I’ve always said I don’t think Neil would’ve been a good boss either. I understand why Carlo made that decision. As respected as Neil was he was constantly under investigation or in and out of court too


I agree. I think it's perfectly understandable why Gambino put Castellano in charge instead of Dellacroce. Dellacroce was a gangster's gangster, but at the time few if any came close to Castellano's business acumen. On paper, the direction Castellano wanted to take the Gambinos in was the right direction; with the family in the front gaining increasing influence in the white collar sphere while in the back you'd still have the traditional blue collar rackets going on albeit in a slightly less abrasive upfront way. There was still plenty of blue collar activity going on under Castellano and it wouldn't have gone away either. He still was an incredibly dangerous guy who ordered a ton of hits and while Dellacroce may have been the authority figure of a certain faction within the family, Castellano still had the backing and support of a ton of old timers, earners as well as hitters.

Castellano's primary mistake was being a greedy fuck (even in comparison to other bosses) and acting like a rich douchebag that already thought he was running a Fortune 500 company. His second major mistake was being a snob to and underestimating the bravado of what was still an important and respected faction of the family.

On paper Carlo Gambino had every reason to appoint Castellano as his successor.

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That was a good analysis and assessment of the players involved, and the overall Gambino Family landscape.

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Originally Posted by TheKillingJoke
Originally Posted by JCrusher
Originally Posted by RushStreet
I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.

. I don’t think many will disagree. We know Gotti wasn’t a good boss. However I’ve always said I don’t think Neil would’ve been a good boss either. I understand why Carlo made that decision. As respected as Neil was he was constantly under investigation or in and out of court too


I agree. I think it's perfectly understandable why Gambino put Castellano in charge instead of Dellacroce. Dellacroce was a gangster's gangster, but at the time few if any came close to Castellano's business acumen. On paper, the direction Castellano wanted to take the Gambinos in was the right direction; with the family in the front gaining increasing influence in the white collar sphere while in the back you'd still have the traditional blue collar rackets going on albeit in a slightly less abrasive upfront way. There was still plenty of blue collar activity going on under Castellano and it wouldn't have gone away either. He still was an incredibly dangerous guy who ordered a ton of hits and while Dellacroce may have been the authority figure of a certain faction within the family, Castellano still had the backing and support of a ton of old timers, earners as well as hitters.

Castellano's primary mistake was being a greedy fuck (even in comparison to other bosses) and acting like a rich douchebag that already thought he was running a Fortune 500 company. His second major mistake was being a snob to and underestimating the bravado of what was still an important and respected faction of the family.

On paper Carlo Gambino had every reason to appoint Castellano as his successor.

. Absolutely. Paul’s biggest flaw was his greed. Also I think the Frank Piccolo situation certainly didn’t help his standing in the family. However I do think Paul staying away from the streets and sticking to white collar crimes was a better recipe for success whereas Neil would’ve still be in the streets and attracting more attention like he was as underboss

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
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Originally Posted by RushStreet
I know people will disagree with me but I think Neil would have made a better boss than Gotti in the long run.

. I don’t think many will disagree. We know Gotti wasn’t a good boss. However I’ve always said I don’t think Neil would’ve been a good boss either. I understand why Carlo made that decision. As respected as Neil was he was constantly under investigation or in and out of court too


I agree. I think it's perfectly understandable why Gambino put Castellano in charge instead of Dellacroce. Dellacroce was a gangster's gangster, but at the time few if any came close to Castellano's business acumen. On paper, the direction Castellano wanted to take the Gambinos in was the right direction; with the family in the front gaining increasing influence in the white collar sphere while in the back you'd still have the traditional blue collar rackets going on albeit in a slightly less abrasive upfront way. There was still plenty of blue collar activity going on under Castellano and it wouldn't have gone away either. He still was an incredibly dangerous guy who ordered a ton of hits and while Dellacroce may have been the authority figure of a certain faction within the family, Castellano still had the backing and support of a ton of old timers, earners as well as hitters.

Castellano's primary mistake was being a greedy fuck (even in comparison to other bosses) and acting like a rich douchebag that already thought he was running a Fortune 500 company. His second major mistake was being a snob to and underestimating the bravado of what was still an important and respected faction of the family.

On paper Carlo Gambino had every reason to appoint Castellano as his successor.

. Absolutely. Paul’s biggest flaw was his greed. Also I think the Frank Piccolo situation certainly didn’t help his standing in the family. However I do think Paul staying away from the streets and sticking to white collar crimes was a better recipe for success whereas Neil would’ve still be in the streets and attracting more attention like he was as underboss


Definitely. Neil attracted plenty of heat and as a street guy his reputation was possibly too notorious.

Another thing that didn't help Castellano either was his whole infidelity situation. Wiseguys are notoriously known for having mistresses, but the way Castellano handled it came across as too entitled. He got a penile implant just so he could bang his Colombian maid who - let's face the facts here - wasn't even hot. There's literally millions of scorchingly hot Colombian women out there, you're the filthy rich boss of a major crime family and you wind up with a side chick that isn't even averagely attractive. Adding insult to injury is the fact that he was shagging her under the same roof where his wife lived.

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